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opoziciis turne dasavleTSi politikuri gancxadebebi, simRera, cekva-TamaSi, tradiciuli skandireba _ `miSa, wadi~ da cotac imedgacrueba. `ucnobisa~ da radikaluri opoziciis turne dasavleT saqarTveloSi aWaridan daiwyo. eqscesebi ar yofila, Tumca raionebSi xalxis simcire aSkarad igrZnoboda. amas opoziciis liderebma Taviseburi axsna mouZebnes. xalxi teroris qveSaa da mitingze mosvlis eSiniaTo, _ maSinve Tqva `greCixam~. kardakaris principiT kolonam TiTqmis yvela raioni moiara. xanSiSesulebi opoziciis liderebis sanaxavad midiodnen, Tineijerebi ki `ucnobs~ elodebodnen. yvelaze xalxmravali aqcia berZeniSvilebis mSobliur baTumSi gaimarTa. iq maTi eleqtorati TiTqmis srulad iyo warmodgenili, Tumca radikalebs imedebi megrelebma gaucrues. `gulwrfelad SemiZlia giTxraT, rom es ar iyo im masStabis aqcia, rogoric iyo ba-

TumSi~, _ zugdidi quTaisi aRniSna zugdidis aqciis Semdeg Tina xidaSelma. lev­a n baTumi g a C e C i­ ­ zestafoni laZe ki­ dev uf­ ro mkacri iyo: _ me zugdidSi maswavles vaJkacoba da dRes am muxts ver vxedav, zugdidis Semdeg iyo quTaisi, Terjola, zestafoni... aqciebi met-naklebi warmatebiT warimarTa. Tina xidaSelma ganacxada, zestafonSi mitingi ki ara, Sexvedrebi gaimarTebao. rogorc Cans, opozicia mixvda, rom mitingze xalxis simcire maT sasacilo mdgomareobaSi agdebda, amitomac, maTive termini rom vixmaroT, gaiSalnen da, Sexvedrebs vatarebTo, gamoacxades. regionebSi Tu qalaqebi gai-

yves, TbilisSi metros amosasvlelebi dainawiles da Sexvedrebs ase atarebdnen. es kidev ufro ubadruki sanaxaoba iyo. carieli saknebi ki ukve taqsis mZRolebsac yelSi amouvidaT. paraskevs incidentic moxda: Tqven gamo muSaoba ar aris da saxlebSi fuli ver Segvaqvso, – acxadebdnen taqsis mZRolebi. isini Tavisuflebis moednis gaxsnas moiTxovdnen. sapasuxod irakli melaSvilma gamoacxada: saknebi Cvenia da roca gvinda, maSin aviRebTo. quTaisSi aqciaze nino burjanaZesac elodnen, Tumca is mSobliur imereTSi ar gamoCenila. qalbatoni nino im dros TbilisSi patrulTan arkvevda urTierTobas, romelmac misi vaJi anzoriko wesebis darRvevisTvis daajarima. miuxedavad yvelafrisa, opozicia turneTi kmayofilia. ase amboben Riad. sofo xorguani, `respublikuri partia~: `aWaridan daviwyeT da Catarda bevri kargi mitingi. iyo raionebi, sadac bevri xalxi ar iyo, magram im teroris gaTvaliswinebiT, rac am xalxze xorcieldeba, mainc kmayofilebi varT. mTavaria, rom regionis mosaxleoba kargad acTerjola nobierebs, ra mdgom­ gori a ­r e o b a a mcxeTa

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qveyanaSi. maT SeiZleba yoveldRe ar esmiT opoziciis liderebis gamosvlebi, magram isini yoveldRiurad sakuTar Tavze cdian represiul manqanas~. opozicia ambobs, rom yvela qalaqSi uerTdebian mxardamWerTa jgufebi, romlebic Tbilisisken gamoemarTebian. opoziciis eskorti TbilisSi Semosvlas 26 maiss gegmavs.

Tu Tqven gaxdiT saintereso incidentis mowme, gaqvT eqskluziuri fotokadrebi, SeityveT skandaluri ambavi... mokled, namdvili sensaciis epicentrSi moxvdiT, dagvikavSirdiT telefonebze.: 40 94 81; 40 94 82; (899) 50 39 69; info@ptpress.ge xaTuna mgalobliSvili gvapatieT, magram axla cotaxniT diskomforts SegiqmniT, nervebs agiSliT, gza-kvals agirevT da mere isev Cven-Cvens gzas davadgebiT. ase iqceva opozicia. jer rusTaveli gadaketes, mere rusTavels kostavac miumates. mere isev moakles da axla nervebis `dawiwkvnis~ axali meTodi moigones – yoveldRe TiTo-TiTo saaTiT gadaketaven qalaqis sxvadasxva mTavar quCas. gegma sanapiros `CaxergviT~ daiwyo. manqanebs pirdapir saburavebSi `Seucvivdnen~ da arc imisTvis miuqceviaT yuradReba, uamravi mZRoli xmamaRla rom ukurTxebdaT. RimiliT uxsnidnen, sul cota xniT agvitaneT, megobrebo, da male gagiSvebTo. _ me male ara, axlave minda, rom gamiSvaT. magviandeba. iciT, ras niSnavs, magviandeba? – manqanidan gadmoxta axalgazrda, romelsac SeiZleba marTlac agviandeboda, magram imaze ufro brazobda, Suagul mzeSi rom iyo gaCxerili... opoziciidan masTan dasamSvideblad daTo gamyreliZe 2

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mivida. daTo zogadad mTel opoziciaSi yvelaze mSvid da gawonasworebul adamianad aris (ufro sworad iyo) cnobili. nervebma masac umtyuna maSin, roca verafriT gaagebina da verc daumtkica axalgazrdas, ratom aiZulebdnen, erTi saaTi aetana opoziciis kaprizi. am faqtis Semyure momitinge orma qalbatonma erTmaneTs gadaulaparaka: ara, mitingebis dasawyisSi daTos aSkarad ukeTes dReSi hqonda nervebio... _ moiTmineT, Torem mere gacilebiT cudis moTmena mogiwevT... esec opoziciis lozungad iqca. momitingeebmac aitaces es idea, magram `dazaralebulma~ mZRolebma veraferi gaiges: _ me ratom unda moviTmino? miSas xom erCiT? hoda, midiT da miSas gadauketeT gzebi, Tu magrebi xarT. aba, me miSa var Tu merabiSvili? vgavar romelimes? _ xeli Caiqnia mZRolma da Tavis manqanaSi Cajda. Tan TavisTvis Cxubobda, erTi merabiSvili viyoo... ramdeni wuTi darCa gzis gaxsnamde? es iyo erTaderTi kiTxva, romelsac TviTon mo-

mitingeebi kiTxulobdnen. isinic daRala mzem da cota liderebmac. xalxi ki SeRonda. manqanebidan gadmodiodnen da xalxs gaRizianebuli urCevdnen saxlSi wasvlas. erTi xanSiSesuli qali momitingeebSi darboda da `liderebis ufross~ eZebda: _ xom ar iciT, aq vin aris ufrosi? ramdeni xani unda gvalodinon, veRar gavige, operaciidan momyavs bavSvi da saxlamde ver mimiyvania. 7 wlis gogona, romelsac Tvalis operacia gaukeTes, saavadmyofodan saxlSi gadahyavdaT. opoziciis mitingis gamo ki iZulebulebi iyvnen, erTi saaTi mdgariyvnen da ecadaT, rodis daiSlebodnen. bavSvs ki wamlis miTeba agviandeboda. hoda, bebiac amitom eZebda

`ufross~, egeba Segvicodos da gagvataroso, magram tyuilad hqonda imedi. verc `ufrosma~ uSvela, aq yvelas raRac problema gvaqvs da imitom vdgavarT, aba, dalxenilebi sxvagan sxedano.

ra siurprizebs umzadebs quCis opozicia xelisuflebas. politikosi qalebis axali amboxi da saxifaTo gegma, romlis ganxorcielebac 26 maiss undaT... opozicia arCevanis winaSe dadga _ an meore sunTqva gaixsnas da brZolis taqtika Secvalos, an politikurma virusma saxec daukargos da formac. CamoZonZili da dabinZurebuli saknebi ukve gaxda quCis opoziciis imiji. diplomatiur manerebs miCveuli alasaniasTvis quCis WuWyi arcTu imdenad mimzidvelia. is xvdeba, rom opozicias virusi sWirs _ saxelad nino. swored ninos aqvs akrefili bolomde da quCis kolegebs gzidan gadaxvevis saSualebas ar aZlevs. Sesabamisad, am or figuras Soris akeTeben quCaSic arCevans _ irakli an nino. nino burjanaZis gverdiT je­ r­j­erobiT mxolod salome zu­ rabiSvili da eka beselia rCebian. daTo gamyreliZe erTaderTi ma­ makacia, `axlebi~ ki _ erTaderTi partia, romelic jerjerobiT radikalebis gundSi ewereba, Tanac moxalised. ise, jer ar yofila precedenti – gamyreliZes krizisebis dros swori arCevani gaekeTebinos. sadac dadga, yvelgan waago... da mainc jiutad dgas. alasanias aliansi, faqtobrivad, daSlilia. gamyreliZe-alasanias urTierTobebSi gaCenil kriziss ar imCneven. respublikelebSi colqmari, etyoba, rolebs mainc inawileben: usufaSvili alasaniasTan erTad ufro xSirad Cans (iseve, rogorc levan gaCeCilaZe), vidre gamyreliZesTan. amboben, rom daTo da irakli saerTodac aRar elaparakebian erTmaneTs. SidagarCevebi aqvT `forumis~ biWebsac. erT-erT interviuSi sociologma goCa cqitiSvilma saintereso fraza Tqva: gubaz sanikiZem reitingi seriozulad akrifao. SeiZleba, es kaxa Sartavas Tavis tkivili gaxdes? `forumis~ lideri swored is aris da guli alasaniasken ufro miuwevs, vidre politikiT davirusebuli qalebisken. irakli melaSvils agresiuli qalebi ufro moswons (es gemovnebis sakiTxia), anu burjanaZisken ixreba. mainc, ras gegmavs opozicia 26 maiss? pirvel rigSi, xalxis mozidvas erovnul stadionze. eqspertebs amaze ecinebaT. mitingis Catarebas marto survili rom hyofnides, Zlieri motivacia Tu ar aris, maSin didi fuli da bevri dro unda. ninom Tu ar icis, orjonikiZis gamocdilebas mainc gadaavlos Tvali. magram, etyoba, gadaavlo da raRacraRacebi daijera kidec. amitomac, axla amboben, erovnul stadionTan SevikriboT da SigniT ar SevideTo. rom SevideT, vaiTu stadioni ver gavavsoTo. amitomac `mokrZalebulad~ gareT dadgebian... `davirusebul~ opoziciaSi axali idea gaCnda. rogorc Cans, es idea daviT gamyreliZes ekuTvnis. quCis opoziciaSi alternatiuli mTavrobis Seqmnis survilma gaiJRera. aseTi idea erTxel daviT gamyreliZes hqonda. maSin alternatiuli parlamenti `axlebis~ ofisSi unda gaxsniliyo, magram gegma ver ganxorcielda. rogorc Cans, es idea isev cocxalia. SesaZloa, amitomac darCa gamyreliZe ninos, salomesa da ekas gverdiT. kidev ufro cxel tvinebs TbilisSi fantazia gaexsnaT. magaliTad, nino burjanaZes: Tu bevri xalxi mova, egeb saerTod parlamentis SenobaSi SevsuliyaviT da dagvekavebinao. aseTi virusuli gegmebi ninos kolegebs, albaT, afrTxobs. SeiZleba amitomac daiwyo saubari erTiani lideris dasaxelebaze. aliansma irakli alasania gamoacxada axal liderad. nino am kandidaturas Zalian ugunebod Sexvda. Tumca, 26 maisamde jer kidev droa.

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gv. 29 seqsualur politikosad irakli oq­ ruaSvils miiCnevs, moswons misi ma­m­ akacuri iersaxe da simaRle. spo­rt­ smenebidan nika cqitiSvili xiblavs, xazs usvams mis Tvalebsa da simaRles. araseqsualurad vano merabiSvils miiCnevs. aRizianebs misi saxe da laparakis manera.

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opoziciis susti wertili mamuka kenWaZe zogierTi cnobiT, xelisuflebam opoziciis winaaRmdeg ufro maxvilgonivrul xerxs miagno, vidre aqciis darbeva da liderebis dapatimrebaa. axali gegmis konturebi maSin gamoCnda, rodesac samocamde opozicioners nafereb _ naloliavebi, sayvareli manqanebi waarTves imis gamo, rom maTi meSveobiT gzatkecili gadaiketa. anu, Sinagan saqmeTa saministrom, opoziciis liderebsa da aqtiur mebrZolebs yvelaze saTuT adgilas daartya: qonebaze! Zneli warmosadgeni ar aris: bevr maTgans Rame ar daeZineboda imis warmodgeniT, rom coliviT sayvareli arseba – naferebi `jipi~ Tu `mersedesi~ _ viRacis xelSi aRmoCnda da kacma ar icis, ras uSvreboda; es mtanjveli eWvianoba aSkarad metyvelebs, rom xelisuflebam swor meTods miagno da erTdroulad ramdenime kurdRelic daiWira, vinaidan im adamians, vinc umuSevrobisa da SimSilis gamoa quCaSi gamosuli an dReSi `Svidi lariza~ aTevs Rames turtlian, ayrolebul `sakanSi~, Zalian Znelia simpatia mosTxovo liderebisadmi, romlebic 50 aTasi dolariani jipis `dapatimrebis~ gamo wuxs da maTi gamoxsnis motiviT aqciebis kidev ufro `gamkacrebasac~ moiTxovs. amas Znelad Tu gaigeben is adamianebic, vinc sanapiroebis ga­daketvis gamo, au­tanel sicxeSi, ` m a ­r S r u t k e b S i ~ itanjebodnen saaTobiT. davakvirdeT: opoziciis liderebs Tavis marTlebac mouxdaT: aqaoda, `adamianebs xocavs es xelisufleba da gzebi unda gadavketoTo~, Tumca Tavad wina dRes acxadebdnen: raki manqanebi

wagvarTves, gzebi amitom unda CavxergoT da adamianebic valdebulni arian, wameba moiTminono. maS ris gamo gadaiketa sanapiro? – viRacis `jipis~ dasaxsnelad Tu `quCebSi Caxocvebis~ gamo? Zalian saintereso diskusiebic imarTeba iqve: raki `wlebis ganmavlobaSi, quCaSi Caxocvebis dros xma ar amogiRiaT, amitom unda daitanjoTo~. amas ubralo, sacodav `obivatelebs~ sayveduroben. Turme Cveulebrivi moqalaqeebi valdebulni iyvnen, maSin `xma amoeRoT~. magram imas ki ar aqceven yuradRebas, rom maTi erT-erTi dRevandeli lideri maSin (roca `quCaSi xalxs xocavdnen~) ara Cveulebrivi moqalaqe, aramed qveyanaSi meore piri iyo da `xma ar amouRia~. amis miuxedavad, dRes opoziciis liderobasa da prezidentobaze acxadebs pretenzias. Tumca, davubrundeT isev xelisuflebis gegmebs: presaSi gaJonili informaciis Sesabamisad, raki qonebis xelyofam opoziciis liderebi ase gaamwara, xelisufleba sul male analogiuri meTodiT gaaZlierebs maTze zewolas: gzis savali nawilis gadaketva rogorc sisxlis samarTlis, aseve administraciuli danaSaulia. miT umetes, roca gza iketeba ara xalxis masiT, aramed xelovnuri konstruqciebiT. magaliTad, e.w. `saknebiT~. adm­i n­

istraciuli samarTa­l­d­arR­ vevebis igive kodeqsi, romliTac avtomflobelebi daajarimes, xelisuflebas aZlevs saSualebas, administraciuli aqtiT daajarimos is liderebi, romlebic quCebSi saknebis dadgmas xelmZRvanelobdnen da organizebas uwevdnen, ramac rusTavelsa da Tavisuflebis moedanze saavtomobilo moZraobis paralizeba gamoiwvia. ra Tqma unda, amisTvis ar daiWeren, magram saxlSi miuvaT qviTari ramdenime dRis ganmavlobaSi ama Tu im Tanxis gadaxdis moTxovniT. davuSvaT, ar gadaixades _ maSin Tanxa gaaTmagdeba. SeiZleba gaasaCivron sasamarTloSi, magram administraciul samarTalwarmoebas Turme gasaCivreba ver aCerebs, anu administraciul organos eqneba saSualeba, dajarimebuls qoneba (bina, igive avtomanqana, sabanko angariSi, miwis nakveTi) dauyadaRos; garkveuli vadis Semdeg ki auqcionze gauyidos. Tavidan, ra Tqma unda, es yovelive sasacilod ar eyofaT – arc gadaixdian, magram mere da mere mixvdebian, rom sasacilo aq bevri araferia: qonebis dayadaReba xumroba ar gegonoT! auqcionze gamotanil binasac gamouCndeba ueWvelad muStari da saxlSic ewvevian administraciis wamomadgenlebi qonebis aRsawerad. Tu, vTqvaT, gadaixades, magram gza ar gaxsnes, meored aTjer ufro didi TanxiT daajarimeben da ase Semdeg. erTi sityviT, opozicias tyuilad hgonia, rom xelisuflebis arsenalSi dapatimrebis an darbevis garda sxva berketebi ar moiZeveba; Tanac iseTi, romelic gansakuTrebiT `aewveba~ _ iseve, rogorc sayvareli jipebis avtosadgomze gadayvana `aewvaT~.

kukavam da malaSxiam erTmaneTi scemes marita damenia kaxa kukavam da SoTa malaSxiam erTmaneTi seriozulad scemes. isini naTia gamcemliZis gadacema `ucnob kavkasia~-Si iyvnen miwveulebi. eTerSi dawyebuli kamaTi gadacemis Semdeg gemrieli qarTuli CxubiT daasrules. am Temaze komentarisTvis or­

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ives davukavSirdiT, Tumca saubari arc erTma ar isurva, kukavam malaSxiasken gaiSvira TiTi, malaSxiam _ kukavasken. amitom am konfliqtis detalebis gaxseneba isev gadacemis wamyvans, naTia gamcemliZes vTxoveT: _ gadacemaSi Cveulebrivad ikamaTes sxvadasxva Temebze. kaxam prezidenti da misi gundi gaakritika. amis Semdeg SoTa malaSxiam uTxra, arsebobs ori Temao, roca b o dav da

meore, roca halucinaciebi gaqvso. amaze kukava gabrazda da uzrdeli uwoda. mokled, ahyvnen erTmaneTs kamaTSi, kukavam malaSxias wamoaZaxa, 1500 dolari gaqvs gadaxdili parlamentSi Sesasvlelado. vcdilobdi, gadacema ise damemTavrebina, rom mSvidobianad daSorebuliyvnen, magram, sawuxarod, ase ar moxda. rogorc ki mayurebels davemSvidobe, Cxubic daiwyes. _ pirvelad romelma daartya? _ marTali giTxraT, ar maxsovs. jer erTmaneTs eubnebodnen, cota zrdilobianad isaubre eTerSio. vcdilobdi, gameSvelebina. mZime dazianeba arc erTs ar aqvs. ginebiT ar iginebodnen, pirdapir xeli daartyes... mere Semovarda dacva, operatorebi, reJisorebi. sanam isini Semovidodnen, erTi-ori mec kargad momxvda, Tumca dazianeba arc me maqvs. mere erTi erTi mxridan gaiyvanes, meore _ meore mxridan. meore dRes davureke orives da araferi seriozuli ara gvaqvso. rom vacilebdi, araferi etyobodaT. ase rom, SeZlebisdagvarad mSvidobianad dasrulda yvelaferi.

eqskluziurad piradi Tea xomeriki elituri skandali anonimuri SetyobinebiT _ `jeoselis~ warmatebuli proeqtebis avtorsa da rZis `magnatis~ qaliSvils irma cqitiSvils misive ojaxis axlobelma siyvarulis saidumlo gauTqva. gaZarculia irmas saojaxo albomi, fotoebi `praimtaimSia~... Sav konvertSi Cadebuli irmas sami foto, romelzec is da misi megobari zako wereTeli arian aRbeWdili, Cvens korespondents ucnobma mamakacma nikolaZis pirvel nomerSi

mdebare kafeSi dautova. sxvaTa Soris, am misamarTze cota xnis win Tavad irma cqitiSvili gadabargda... cqi­tiSvilma gviTxra, rom es sami foto misi albomidan daikarga... anu, anonimi irmas saxlSi Cveulebrivad dadis da albomzec miuwvdeba xeli. amaze cota mogvianebiT, axla ki gavyveT movlenebs. sanam ucnobi irmasa da zako wereTlis fotoebs dagvitovebda, manamde redaqciaSi ramdenime `esemes~Setyobineba movida, romlis mixedviTac irma cqitiSvili, cisana sefiaSvilis yofili meuRlis, koka wereTlis Zmas, zako wereTels mihyveba colad... `esemesSi~ zakos da irmas cxovrebis detalebia moTxrobili (stili daculia): sms `zaliko wereTeli, milioneri ungreTidan, axla cxovrobs moskovSi. xvdebian irma da eg venaSi, levan pirvelis saxlSi. da moskovSi yavs ori levi Svili... TbilisSi Camodis. gogoebi giJdebian. irma da zako am ambavs malaven. qorwili seqtemberSi bagrationis darbazSi aqvT. adgili irmam airCia. daTo naTaZe exmareba~. `esemesi~ grZeldeba da cqitiSvilis warsuls sakuTari interpretaciiT gviyveba: sms `exla vin aris `jeoselis~ pirveli ledi. 18 wlis gaTxovda, levan jafariZeze, magari biWi iyo. daiRupa. darCa 22 wlis bavSviT. mdidari, Wkviani, didi samegobroTi, 12 weli aravisken gauxedavs. meore qmari zviad nefariZe iyo. oqros magnati da didi kontaqtebiT. megobrebis rCeviT mihyveba da sul male ukan gamorbis. mizezi ar saxelgeno malazonia

deba. megobrebic duman. ar uyvardao, mxo­l­od es Tqves. gavida wlebi da xvdeba zako wereTels axloblis saxlSi. zakom Tavi Seayvara da urTierTobis problemac moixsna. irmam zakos gamo geno malazonias uTxra uari. megobrebi iZaxian, aseTi bednieri ar gvinaxavs irmao. logikuria, fuli fulTan midis. cqitiSvilebisa da wereTlebis simdidre Zlier ojaxs Seqmnis. zakom aCuka axali manqana da axali bina saocari xediT, nikolaZis 1-Si~. am Setyobinebis mosvlidan ramdenime dReSi isev modis `esemesi~, ro­melSic weria, rom fotoebs nikolaZis pirvel nomerSi, kafe `rotondaSi~ dagvitoveben. fotoebi miviReT. irma cqi­tiS­v­i­li saqmis ku­rsSia, Cven mas am anonimuri Setyobinebis Sesaxeb movuyeviT da im nomris gadacemasac davpirdiT, romlidanac Setyobinebebi modis. sxvaTa Soris, nomeri `jeosels~ ekuTvnis... Zalian sakvirvelia, anonims, romelmac ase kargad dagegma es ambavi, is namdvilad ar gamoepareboda, rom `jeoselidan~ gagzavnili `esemesebis~ avtoris gaSifvra `jeoselis~ pirveli ledisTvis, rogorc ucnobi irmas uwodebs, problema ar iqneboda... Tumca rac yvelaze mTavaria, wyaro marTali aRmoCnda, irmasa da zakos urTierTobaze rom werda... cqitiSvilma Tavad gviTxra, rom Zalian gabrazda, roca zakom masTan romani dagvidastura. rogorc Cans, viRacas Zalian undoda, irmasa da zakos urTierTobis Sesaxeb sazogadoebas gaego... faqtia, rom anonimi irmas saxlSi Tavisuflad dadis da megobrebsa da mis warsuls kargad icnobs, anu axlobelia... ras gaigeb, yovel SemTxvevaSi dRes ukve cnobilia, rom meore warumatebeli qorwinebis Semdeg irma cqitiSvili mesamed Txovdeba... Cveni yuradReba im faqtma miiqcia, rom anonimma ambavTan erTad erTgvari moqmedebis gegma mogvca, yvelas saxelebiT, telefonis nomrebiT, maT Soris ucxoeTis nomrebiT... ase magaliTad, ucnobi gvwers, rom ambis kargad gasaSlelad unda dagvereka zakos dedis megobarTan, qalbaton marikasTan, romlis nomeric miTiTebuli iyo, aseve zakosa da irmas megobrebTan, qeTi doCanaSvilTan, ina sixaruliZesTan, duta sxirtlaZesTan... yvela nomeri realuri aRmoCnda... gamodis, rom is adamiani, romelmac gegma `zako da irma~ SeimuSava, imdenad axlobelia, rom maT garSemo myofi adamianebis telefonis nomrebi icis... zako wereTels Cven budapeStSi am Setyobinebis mosv-

vin gaTqva irma cqitiSvilis saidumlo aris cneba megobrobis. xom ar SeiZleba, yvelaferi ase sulelurad SefuToT, iseTi sasaciloa, rom arc vbrazdebi... _ Cvenamde moaRwia am informaciam da Cven xom gvaqvs ufleba, davsvaT kiTxva? isic ki iTqva, rom Tqven za­ kos gulisTvis geno malazonias uTx­ ariT uari. _ marTla sisulelea, magaze komentars ar vakeTeb. _ marTla xvdebiT xolme avstriaSi zakos? _ ar minda mag Temaze laparaki da davamTavroT, marTla mogonilia, zako aris Cemi bavSvobis megobari...

zako wereTeli lisTanave davukavSirdiT, misi nomeric `esemesSi~ iyo miTiTebuli. is sakmaod mxiaruli adamiani aRmoCnda. zakos Cveni zari ar gahkvirvebia da, faqtobrivad, daadastura cqitiSvilTan romani. swored zakos aseTi pasuxi gaxda imis mizezi, rom Cven wyaros mier mocemul telefonis nomrebs gavyeviT: _ gavrcelda xmebi, rom Tqven da irma cqitiSvili daqorwinebas apirebT, mar­ Talia? _ ukacravad, didi bodiSi, magram ar minda interviu, axla pasuxs mainc ar gagcem. _ amboben, rom seqtemberSi bagra­ tionebis darbazSi gaqvT dagegmili qorwili. _ ici, saerTod Zalian ar miyvars pirad cxovrebaze intervius micema da laparaki... mokled, me geubnebi, Sen rogorc ginda, ise dawere... _ anu ara aqvs amas TqvenTvis mniS­ vneloba? gamodis, rom ar uaryofT am romans? _ ara... _ ras saqmianobT budapeStSi? bi­ znesi gaqvT sakuTari? _ diax. yvela sferoSi vsaqmianob, uZravi qonebis biznesSi var... Tqven ra gqviaT? ramdeni wlis xarT? _ ra mniSvneloba aqvs, me ramdeni wlis var? _ ara, ubralod, sasiamovno xma gaqvT da... gaTxovili xar? _ diax... _ Zalian cudi... sxvaTa Soris, mogvianebiT Cven Tavad irmam gviTxra, rom misi Svili amJamad budapeStSi, swored zakosTan erTad aris.irmas mis piradze saubari ar esiamovna. zakosgan gansxvavebiT, metad aRelda da nerviulobis dafarva siciliT scada...

rogorc Cveni wyaro gvwers, irmas nikolaZeze saxli uyides... yidva ara, magram nikolaZeze saxlis daqiravebisa da gadasvlis faqti zakos dedis megobarma, qalbatonma marikamac dagvidastura... gviTxra, sul ramdenime dRea gadavida, bargi arc amoulagebiao... zakosTan romanis faqti am qalbatonmac uaryo da Semdeg zakos dedasTan gadagvamisamarTa: _ qalbatono dodo, marTa­ lia, rom Tqveni Svili irma cqitiSvilze qorwindeba? _ ara, gamoricxulia... _ ratom aris gamoricxuli? _ geubnebiT, gamoricxuli ambavia, ras meubnebiT? _ Tqven iseTi reaqcia gqondaT, rom Cans, Zalian winaaRmdegi xarT, zakom irma moiyvanos. _ arc davuSveb magas, tyuilia, gamoricxulia, eldasaviT meca es ambavi... aseTi iyo qalbaton dodos pasuxi, ai, irma cqitiSvilis mamam ki, romelmac, rogorc Cans, qaliSvilisgan icoda Cveni dainteresebis Sesaxeb, kiTxvac ar dagvasmevina, ise gaTiSa telefoni. sxvaTa Soris, Zalian orazrovani pasuxi gagvca kiTxvaze irma cqitiSvilis megobarma qeTi doCanaSvilma: _ `praimtaimidan~ girekavT, ram­ denime kiTxva gvaqvs Tqvens megobar­ Tan dakavSirebiT. gvainteresebda, Tu xarT dapatiJebuli irmasa da zakos qorwilSi, romelic, rogorc gavigeT, seqtemberSi aqvT? _ ara, ar var dapatiJebuli. _ Tqven xom irmas megobari xarT? _ xo, magram ver getyviT... _ didi xnis urTierToba aqvT za­ kosa da irmas? _ ar vici, ver getyviT verafers...

_ irma, marTla apir­ ebT Tqven da zako wereTeli se­qtem­ berSi daqorwine­

bas? _ ara, kargiT ra... sisulelea (Tumca, mogvianebiT pirad saubarSi irmam Tqva, `erTad varTo~???) _ ra gakavSirebT za­ kosTan? _ iciT, ra mainteresebs? vis raSi ainteresebs ai, es kiTxva... saerTod, am cxovrebaSi

duta sxirtlaZe: _ duta, gavigeT, rom irma zako wereTels mi­ hyveba, Tqven Tu iciT amis Sesaxeb? _ me vici, rom irma ar Txovdeba, zakoze miT umetes... _ zakoze miT umetes ratom? _ vici, rom ar

irma cqitiSvili

ki

zako wereTe

li da irma c

irmas saxl id dakarguli an foto Txovdeba da zakoze miT umetes ar Txovdeba... CvenTan ar usaubria amaze... _ anu Tqven ar iciT maTi romanis Sesaxeb? _ maTi romanis Sesaxeb _ ara, megobrobis Sesaxeb vici....

qitiSvili

faqtia, misiis mizani _ irmas garSemo aurzauri _ namdvilad Sedga.

k i d e v er­Ti, mniSvnelovani d e ­t a l i _ daTo naTaZem, romelzec Cve­ni wyaro werilSi werda, pirad saubarSi ganacxada, rom misTvis irmas uTqvams, seqtemberSi siurprizi geliTo... p.s. sainte­ resoa, ras cdil ­ obda Cveni anonimi `megobari~, an vin aris is irmasTvis? mteri Tu moyvare? – am kiTxvas pasuxi seqtemberSi gaecema. rogorc wyaro irwmuneba, qorwili swored seqtemberSi, bagrati­onebis da­r­ bazSia da­gegmili... erTi orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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_ ras elo­ debiT 26 maiss, ra moxdeba? _ 26 maiss Cven arafers ar velodebiT. Cven 26 maiss vgegmavT, rom mova Zalian bevri Cveni mxardamWeri, miviRebT politikur da apolitikur gadawyvetilebebs, rogor unda gagrZeldes mitingebi... _ anu 26 maisis merec gagrZeldeba mitingebi? _ ra Tqma unda. amaze meore azri ar arsebobs. xelisuflebas aqvs tyuili imedi, rom aqciebi 26 maiss dasruldeba. sanam saakaSvili iqneba xelisuflebaSi, es aqciebi gagrZeldeba. _ ra formiT gagrZel­

obamas administraciam saqarTveloSi demokratiuli institutebis ganviTarebisTvis 53 milion dolarze meti gamoyo. aSSs elCi jon tefti acxadebs, rom am Tanxidan 20 milioni uSualod mediisa da saarCevno sistemis reformirebas moxmardeba. saxelisuflebo wreebis warmomadgenlebi amboben, rom aSS-is mxridan aseTi daxmareba droulia da is xels Seuwyobs qveyanaSi demokratiis ganviTarebas. deputati daviT darCiaSvili `praimtaimTan“ saubrisas acxadebs, rom mediisTvis gamoyofili Tanxebi xels Seuwyobs Jurnalistebis profesionalizmis amaRlebasa da konkretuli mediasaSualebebis ganviTarebas. daviT darCiaSvili: `SeerTebuli Statebisa da kerZo fondebis mxridan qarTuli mediis daxmareba yovelTvis xdeboda, Tumca gasakeTebeli jer kidev bevria. garkveul mediasaSualebebs sWirdeba teqnikuri daxmareba, aseve mniSvnelovania Jurnalistebis profesionalizmis amaRleba, eTikis kodeqsze muSaoba da a.S. es daxmareba kidev erTi dasturia imisa, rom SeerTebuli Statebi dainteresebulia sa­qarTveloSi demokratiis kidev ufro metad ganviTarebiT“. 6

orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

deba? _ ra formiT vimoqmedebT, amas gamovacxadebT 26 maiss. _ ratom, jer ar gaqvT gegma, ras apirebT? _ ki, rogor ar gvaqvs. ubralod, yvelafers vityviT 26 maiss da Tan paralelurad vmuSaobT. rodemde gagrZeldeba, amasac ver getyviT. es imazea damokidebuli, rodis wava miSa. roca Cven daviwyeT, 9 aprils, vicodiT, rom miSa im dResve ar damTavrdeboda da vTqviT, rom viqnebodiT mudmivi protestis reJimSi. marTalia, zafxuli modis, magram brZola grZeldeba. _ da 26 maiss xelisufleba rom Caerios an Seecados, aRadginos wesrigi quCebSi?.. _ ver Seecdeba, arc izams amas. es iqneba Zalian farTomasStabiani aqcia, uamravi adamiani gamova. _ da xom SeiZleba am aqciebma ar gamoiRos is Sedegi, rasac Tqven elodebiT? _ am aqciebma ukve gamoiRo Sedegi. nuravis hgonia, rom es aqciebi uSedegoa. es aris arnaxuli masStabis, gmiri xalxis mier mowyobili aqciebi, romlebic gamoxataven protests da Tan yvelaferi xdeba Svidobianad. es aris CvenTvis

nino burjanaZe: _ rogor fiqrobT, xalxs ar eS­ leba nervebi da xeli gzebis gada­ ketviT? _ bunebrivia, Cven ar mogvwons is, rasac vakeTebT, magram es yvelaferi keTdeba imisTvis, rom mere ufro metis da ufro cudis moTmena ar mogviwios. _ bevri Tqveni yofili Tanagun­ deli ambobs, rom Tqven mier ar­ Ceul stilSi – iyoT radikalurad radikaluri _ Tavs maincdamainc kargad ver grZnobT... _ ki, marTalia, namdvilad ver vgrZnob Tavs kargad, magram axla sxvaa mTavari. maSin, rodesac pan gi munis gancxadebaSi gaeros rezoluciidan afxazeTi saqarTvelos nawilad aRar aris moxseniebuli, ai, is Cemi yofili kolegebi, ar iqneba cudi, Tu cota diskomforts igrZnoben da miiReben iseT gadawyvetilebas, romlebic maTi qveynisTvis iqneba ukeTesi. me vici maTi ganwyobebi, maT bevrjer usaubriaT CemTan. axla, ra Tqma unda, eSiniaT CemTan darekvis, Tumca adre bevrjer damTxvevia Cemi da maTi azrebi erTmaneTs. ras sxedan iq, 10 weli xom ar iqnebian kidev? _ 26 maiss ra moxdeba? _ yoveli dRe da yoveli ricxvi gadamwyvetia imisTvis, rom es xelisufleba wavides. darwmunebuli var, rom Cven am Sedegs aucileblad mivaRwevT. absoluturad darwmunebuli var Cems sityvebSi. imitom, rom ar SeiZleba, es usamarTloba didxans gagrZeldes. me didxans viyavi maTi nawili da amaze dRes Zalian vwuxvar. axla Cemi radikalizmiT yvelafers gavakeTeb imisTvis, rom is ubedureba, rac am qveyanaSi damkvidrda, nebiT Tu uneblied, Cemi iq yofniTac rac SeiZleba male

mTavari... _ magram ambobT, rom umTavresi miSas wasv­ laa... _ ki, asea da xelisuflebas ukve gvarianad aqvs Ziri moryeuli. _ apirebT Tu ara dialogis gagrZelebas? _ Cven amas gvTavazoben ucxoeli diplomatebic. gveubnebian, rom unda davsxdeT da movilaparakoT. magram rasac xelisufleba gvTavazobs, imaze ver moilaparakeb, araferia mosalaparakebeli. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom arafers ar gvTavazoben krizisis dasaZlevad. Tu diplomatebic ar gaaqtiurdebian xelisuflebasTan mosalaparakeblad da isinic ar ifiqreben krizisis daZlevis realur gzebze, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom xelisuflebis msgavsad diplomatebis saqmianobasac azri ara aqvs. _ anu dialogi ar gagrZeldeba? _ ara. _ gaqvT Tu ara mxardaWera dasavleTidan? _ iciT, ra aris? dasavleTi Cvens prezidents, ubralod, ver gaiwvevs qveynidan. mas amis ufleba ara aqvs. isini afiqsireben TavianT poziciebsac da ganwyobebsac.

gamovasworo. igives vurCev sxvebsac, sanam droa... Zalian vurCev. _ xom ar gqoniaT yofil TanagundelebTan saubari igive am Temebze, Tqven am­ bobT, bevri maTgani sx­ vagvarad fiqrobso... _ ara, ar mqonia maTTan saubari. rac opoziciaSi wamovedi, im adamianebs, ubralod, telefonis aReba da darekvac ki eS­iniaT. rom gi­ TxraT, Zalian vwuxv­ar da me­natrebianmeTqi, mogatyuebT...

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miSa maWavariani: _ Jenevis molaparakebasa da pan gi munis gancxadeba­ ze ras ityviT? saubaria 12-kilometrian zolze, sadac mZime teqnikis gadaadgileba ikrZaleba... _ xelisufleba arc apirebs mZime teqnikis gadaadgilebas, radgan Cveni mizani ar aris omi. magram es iqneba sakmaod rTuli mdgomareoba ruseTisTvis, romelic galis raionSi samxedro poziciebs amagrebs. Jenevis molaparakeba Zalian mniSvnelovania, magram saqarTvelo Tavis poziciebs arasodes daTmobs. CvenTvis Zalian mniSvnelovania, sad gadis wiTeli xazi. iq iyo ori dokumenti. erTi Jenevis molaparakebebis dros gamoqveynda, meore ki _ ramdenime dRis win. es aris ori sxvadasxva dokumenti. erTi Seexeboda TviTon misias, iyo dafiqsirebuli saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlianoba, iyo dafiqsirebuli afxazeTi (saqarTvelo). magram misia iyo moxseniebuli, rogorc stabilizaciis misia. aris meore dokumenti, sadac weria es 12-kilometriani zoli. kidev erTxel vityvi, rom saqarTvelo arc apirebs da arc apirebda, rom samxedro gziT moegvarebina problema. es iyo ruseTis scenari. _ da axla dazRveulebi varT, rom ruseTis scenari kidev ar ganmeordeba? _ axla ufro varT dazRveulebi. mTelma msofliom naxa, rom ruseTi agresoria. ruseTi Tavze xels Tu aiRebs, misgan dazRveuli Cven ki ara, evropac ar aris. kaliningradSi

levan berZeniSvili fexis moWras gadaurCa marita damenia bolo dros levan berZeniSvilis saeWvo gauCinarebam qalaqSi aTasgvari miTqma-moTqma gamoiwvia. zogi amtkicebda, berZeniSvils ganuwyvetelma dietebma daRi daasva, janmrTeloba Seuryia da amis gamo, sazRvargareT mkurnaloba dasWirdao; bevrsac gulwrfelad sjeroda, rom berZeniSvils lamis qronikuli opozicioneroba mobezrda da politikas gaemijna. ratom aRar Cans sinamdvileSi erT dros hiperaqtiuri politikosi? amis gasarkvevad `praimtaimi~ piradad levan berZeniSvils esaubra: _ dietasTan dakavSirebiT arasodes aranairi problema ar Semqmnia. simarTle giTxraT, ar vici, vin avrcelebs aseT Worebs. dietas rogor ar vicav, aba, 150 kilo viyavi da axla aRar var, _ uaryo gavrcelebuli xmebi levan berZeniSvilma da daamata: is, rom viRacas SeiZleba dietis gamo janmrTelobis problema Seeqmnas, msuqnebis mogonili miTia, Torem sinamdvileSi, piriqiT, janmrTelobisTvis sasargebloao. sinamdvileSi ki mas am bolo dros janmrTelobasTan dakavSirebuli problemebi marTlac Seqmnia, oRond, rogorc Tavad amtkicebs, dietasTan es arafer SuaSia. _ cota xnis win amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi mgzavrobis dros, autoimunuri infeqcia damemarTa, roca sakuTari baqteriebi klavs organizms. Zalian maRali temperatura mqonda, fexi gamisivda da SeerTebul StatebSi, sidles memorialur hospitalSi gaviare mkurnalobis kursi. _ anu yvelaferi ukan darCa? _ ara, samwuxarod, es mourCeneli daavadebaa, amitom mkurnalobis kurss Tavisi fazebi aqvs, es erTxel da samudamod ar ikurneba. Cven yvelafers vakeTebT, rom saSiSi ar iyos. rva dRis ganmavlobaSi Zalian seriozuli mkurnaloba Cavitare. aTi aTasi kilometris simaRleze nebismiers SeiZleba fexi gausivdes, magram es saSiSi daavadebaa. StatebSi rom ar vyofiliyavi, sxva nebismier qveyanaSi, sadac medicina im doneze ar aris, rogorc amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi da sadac marto Woraoba ician, SeiZleba fexi moeWraT kidec, SeiZleba ki ara, naRdad momaWridnen. iq ki miSveles da momarCines.

raketebs rom alagebda, rad undoda? magram vfiqrob, rom SedarebiT ufro naTeli situaciaa. karasinma, romelic kargad erkveva diplomatiaSi, axsna, ra gegmebi hqonda ruseTs. man Tqva, rom didi xania emzadebodnen aRiarebisTvis. maT icodnen, rom Cven vmuSaobdiT Cvens evropel da amerikel kolegebTan, rom dagveyenebina rusuli `samSvidobo Zalebis~, romelic ukve mxare iyo da es aSkarad Canda, gayvanis sakiTxi. Cven kolegebi gvafrTxilebdnen, rom es unda momxdariyo da ruseTs, adre Tu gvian, mainc mouwevda daTmobaze wasvla. magram maT hqondaT scenari, romelic agvistoSi ganaxorcieles. karasinma gasagebad axsna, rogor emzadebodnen didi xnis ganmavlobaSi, rom ecnoT samxreT oseTi da afxazeTi. miuxedavad am didi mzadebisa, nikaraguis garda, aravin cno. _ iqneb nino burjanaZes, an ebraliZes an igor giorgaZes ukeTesad SeuZliaT, SemoierTon es ter­ itoriebi? _ amas qarTveli xalxi gadawyvets, roca 2013 wels saprezidento arCevnebi iqneba. _ Tqven didi xania, icnobT nino burjanaZes. adre amJRavnebda is aseT agresiul da radikalur xasiaTs politikaSi? _ iciT, iyo sakiTxebi, roca amJRavnebda kidec. Tumca dRevandeli misi mdgomareoba absoluturad gansxvavebulia. iyo xSiri kamaTebi mTavrobis wevrebTan, Tumca iyo sakiTxebi, razec ar vkamaTobdiT. is, rom rusuli samxedro Zalebi unda gasuliyo, amaze kamaTi ar yofila; is, rom ruseTi emzadeboda samxedro avantiurisTvis, arc es dayenebula eWvqveS, arc ninos mier, sxvaTa Soris. _ ras apirebT 26 maiss? _ Zalian samwuxaroa, rom Cveni oponentebi 26 maiss iyeneben politikuri miznebisTvis. aseTi faqti adrec iyo saqarTveloSi da maSin Zalian mZimed dasrulda movlenebi. gaixseneT 1990 wlis 26 maisi, rodesac ori mitingi Catarda. Cveni xelisufleba amas araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar gaimeorebs. Cven ar davuSvebT amas. aseve, aris isic, rom zogierT Cvens oponents bevrjer uTqvams, rom sWirdebaT konfrontacia da sWirdebaT dapirispireba, undaT, rom moxdes Sexla-Semoxla. samagierod, es ar sWirdeba qarTvel xalxs. es ar aris gamosavali am rTuli mdgomareobidan. axla Zlierma unda daTmos da Cven vTmobT kidec. 26 maisi ar iqneba aRniSnuli Cven mier. _ anu opozicia cdilobs, daafiqsiros orxelisu­ flebianoba? _ amis dafiqsireba sasaciloa... _ magram amboben, rom xelisufleba 26 maiss aRniS­ navs baTumSi an vazianSi... _ opoziciis mxridan aseTi gancxadeba ar mimaCnia swor nabijad. radgan me kargad maxsovs orTaWalis parlamentis istoriac, romelzec aseve bevri ilaparaka opoziciam. es araseriozulia. Cven ar gvinda, davafiqsiroT, rom or adgilas aRiniSneba 26 maisi, es Cven ar gvawyobs. es aris dRe, romelic mTel saqarTvelos unda aerTianebdes. _ saerTod, xedavT quCis aqciebis dasasruls? an ro­ gor moxdeba es? _ me vxedav da Zalian mniSvnelovania, rom radikaluri opoziciis zogierTi warmomadgenelic xedavs amas. _ sxvaTa Soris, semnebi pirvelad iyo optimisturad ganwyobili Sexvedris Semdeg. ram misca amis sababi? _ opoziciaSi arian Zalian radikalebi da arian adamianebi, romlebic Zalian pragmatulad uyureben am yvelafers. isini xvdebian, rom aseTi gza qveyanas sikeTes ar moutans. simarTle giTxraT, esec aZlevs semnebs, da Cvenc, optimizmis safuZvels. Zalian Znelia saqarTveloSi kudianebze

nadiroba, imitom, rom, rodesac adamiani raRac gadawyvetilebebs iRebs da Tan xedavs, rom garkveul avtoritets iZens, Znelia, aseT dros miiRo gadawyvetilebebi, romelic SeiZleba garkveul partiul interess ar iziarebdes, magram es gadawyvetileba moewonos sazogadoebas. _ anu gindaT TqvaT, rom nino burjanaZes xedavT dia­ logis magidasTan? _ burjanaZe acxadebs, rom ar surs dialogi, aseve fiqrobs salome zurabiSvilic, Tumca iq aris irakli alasania, romelic bolo ramdenime kviris ganmavlobaSi xazs usvams, rom dialogi aris saWiro. _ sxvaTa Soris, salomem aRniSna, rom mas araferi ar SesTavaza xelisuflebam. _ Cven ar gvinda, rom es iyos vaWroba. vis xarjze unda moxdes vaWroba? Cveni amomrCevlebis xarjze? es arasworia. CvenTvis mTavaria, axla qveynis problemebi, miT umetes, rusuli agresiis mere. CvenTvis axla is sakiTxebi ufro mniSvnelovania, romlebic SevTavazeT opozicias. Cven erTad unda SevqmnaT evropuli saxelmwifo.

wina kviraSi semnebma, evrokavSiris warmomadgenelma saqarTveloSi, pirvelad Tqva, rom optimisturad aris ganwyobili da rom opoziciasa da xelisuflebas Soris SeiZleba kompromisi moiZebnos. ratom iyo semnebi kmayofili? zurab abaSiZe: _ ukeTesi iqneba, Tu mas hkiTxavT, Tumca mimaCnia, rom, albaT, piter semnebi fiqrobs, rom opozicia swor gzas adgas, sworad iqceva da imitomac aris ganwyobili ase optimisturad. _ ras gulisxmobT sworad moqcevaSi? _ imas, rasac vakeTebT, anu rom vmarTavT

aqciebs, vxvdebiT xalxs, mzad varT molaparakebebisTvis da gvaqvs Cveni gegma. _ xom ar SeiZleba optimizmis mizezi iyos xelisuflebis raime gadawyv­et­ ileba, romelic semnebma icis da Cven _ ara? _ ar vici, amaze namdvilad ver gipasuxebT. orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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soso cincaZe: _ me piradad Jenevis TaTbirebisadmi Tavidanve skeptikurad viyavi ganwyobili. miuxedavad imisa, rom aravin am TaTbirisgan ar elis garRvevas, win gadadgmul nabijs, mainc yvelas awyobs is. afxazebsa da osebs awyobT imitom, rom isini ilaparakeben da maT mousmenen. saqarTvelos awyobs imitom, rom es iqneba erTgvari aRiareba teritoriebisa da konfliqtis... evrokavSirs awyobs imitom, rom is aris mediatori. Tumca cxadia is, rom am TaTbirs araviTari Sedegi ar mohyveba. ruseTi ar gaiyvans samxedro Zalas arc samaCablodan da arc afxazeTidan. ruseTi imitom a r yris

viles TvalebSi SevxedoT, vaRiaroT, rom CvenTvis es Sexvedra arafers niSnavs. adre Tu oseTsa da afxazeTs gverdiT frCxilebSi ewera saqarTvelo, dRes ukve damoukideblad axseneben maT. _ amis safuZvelze sxva qveynebs SeuZliaT, aRiaron a f ­

rodemde gaZlebs belorusi. rac Seexeba evrokavSirs, gaeros, isini ar aRiareben, radgan es iqneba Zalian cudi magaliTi isev maTTvis. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom kosovos magaliTs vimkiT. ki amtkicebdnen, rom mas CvenTan saerTo araferi hqonda da wminda iuridiulad asec iyo, magram precedenti Seiqmna da es ukve bevrs niSnavda CvenTvis. aseve cudi precedenti iyo, roca afxazeTisa da oseTis gverdidan moaSores sityva saqarTvelo. es niSnavs, rom igive afxazeTi da oseTi kidev aagdebs qvas da isev SeuSvers Tavs, miT umetes, maT gverdiT ruseTi dgas da kidev mouwevs gaeros daTmoba. _ es niSnavs Tu ara imas, rom JenevaSi dauTmes ruseTs da am SedegisTvis ru­ seTma politikur kuluarebSi bevri imuSava? _ rasakvirvelia, asea. TviTon evropa ar miiCnevs amas principul daTmobad ruseTTan urTierTobaSi. _ ratom? imitom, rom ar varT afrikaSi, an ar vzivarT navTo­ bze? _ imitom, rom, rodesac dgeba sakiTxi, visTan iyos principuli igive evropa, visTan urT-

risxva davimsaxuro, magram bunebrivia, rom es procesebi uaryofiTad moqmedebs. barometri, romliTac evropa gansazRvravs saqarTvelos reitingsa da wonas, ra aris, rogor fiqrobT? es aris stabiluroba. es cinizmia, magram ai, es aris politika. politika da cinizmi ki ganuyofelia. arastabilur qveyanaSi investicia ar Cadis. evropisTvis misaRebi iqneboda, rom es arastabiluri situacia ar gaWianurebuliyo Tve-naxevari, CvenTan ki ukve ori Tvea TiTqmis arastabiluri situaciaa. evropis warmomadgenlebi ukve gvimeoreben, dasxediT, moilaparakeTo. es maTi mxridan `mesijia~. diplomatiuri eniT gveubnebian sakmaod mal-male. Torem aradiplomatiuri eniT, merwmuneT, sakmaod mwvave da mkvaxe sityvebiT amkoben qarTul sazogadoebas. arsad, arc erT qveyanaSi ar erevian SidapolitikaSi elCebi ise, rogorc CvenTan. yoveldRe aris Sexvedrebi arasaparlamento opoziciasTan, xelisuflebasTan. isini asruleben mediatoris rols. _ rogor fiqrobT, rogor ganviTarde­ ba movlenebi?

d o d i v S a n a p `sa i r u k i t i l o p i gamzadebul ~ a d n C o m a g e v k u partiebi miliardebs sazRvris gamagrebaSi, rom mere, erT mSvenier dRes, adges da moSalos is. gaerosTvis ukve TviTmiznad iqca is, rom awarmoos molaparakebebi da misTvis Sedegs ara aqvs mniSvneloba. me mikvirs, rom sagareo saqmeTa saministro ar akeTebs detalur gancxadebas pan gi munis moTxovnaze. is iTxovs, rom 12-12 kilometris manZilze xelovnurad Seqmnili sazRvridan Cvens saxelmwifos ar hqondes aranairi teqnikis gaCerebis ufleba. Jenevis procesi Tavidanve ganwirulia, is patara kosmetikuri SeTanxmebebic ki ar Sesrulda, romelic wina raundis dros iqna miRebuli, miT umetes axal-axali valdebulebebis aReba darCeba ganuxorcielebli. sjobs, realistebi viyoT da sinamd-

xazeTisa da oseTis da­moukidebloba? _ amis safuZvelze ar aRiareben, magram es raRac usiamovno precedents qmnis. ratom moxda ise, rom afxazeTisa da oseTis gverdidan amoiRes sityva saqarTvelo, imitom, rom afxazeTma da oseTma qva aagdes da Tavi SeuSvires? cota mikvirs, roca Cveni diplomati acxadebs: Cven xom viciT, rom es teritoriebi Cveniao. saocari gancxadeba iyo, ras niSnavs, Cven xom viciT? gaeroSi weria ase da gaero raRac londonuri iaxtklubi xom ar aris? dRes, rodesac afxazeTi da oseTi moxseniebulia saqarTvelos gareSe, es ar aris aRiareba da arc stimuli, rom sxva saxelmwifom aRiaros. Tu aRiarebaa, nikaraguam da venesuelam isedac aRiares da SeiZleba aseve aRiaros siriam. aseve, gaurkvevelia,

ierToba ufro sWirdeba mas _ saqarTvelosTan Tu ruseTTan, aq aseTi politika aqvs evropas. aris sakiTxebi, sadac namcecs ar uTmobs evropa ruseTs. is, rac TviTon misTvis aris sasicocxlo mniSvnelobis. magram jer evropaSi yvela ver iTavisebs imas, rom saqarTvelos problema maTTvis, anu evropisTvisac sasicocxlo mniSvnelobisaa. dRes Cven varT rTul etapze. bevri ram gairkveva obamas vizitis Semdeg ruseTSi. _ ramdenad aris ruseTisTvis Cveni Sidapolitikuri daZabuloba sasarge­ blo im mxriv, rom evropas daanaxos, rom Cven varT `tyiuri xalxi~, rogorc rusebi xSirad amboben xolme Cvenze da amiT xsnian afxazebis survils, gavidnen saqarTvelos Semadgenlobidan... _ gasagebia Tqveni kiTxva da axla am Cemi pasuxiT SeiZleba, Cemi kolegebis

SesaZloa, burjanaZes angariSebi dauyadaRon erekle sturua burjanaZeebis sagvareulos ir­ gvliv atexil korufciul qarbuqs uaxloes xa­nSi SesaZloa, msvleloba mieces. `praimtaimi­ sTvis~ cnobili ga­ xda, rom nino burjanaZis mier erT la­ rad SeZenil wyneTis feSenebelur agaraks uax­loes dReebSi `giravnobas~ daadeben, ar aris gamoricxuli, dayadaRdes misi finansuri angariSebic. rogorc cnobilia, cota xnis win sagadasaxado inspeqciam nino burjanaZes jarimis qviTari gamouwera. Tanxa sakmaod STabeWdavia da is erT milionamde lars aRwevs, ufro zustad ki _ 925 aTas lars. qalbaton ninos qonebriv deklaraciaSi

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mTlad yvelaferi rigze ver hqonia. mas qonebis nawili daumalavs. naklebsavaraudoa, rom Semosavlebis dafarvisTvis burjanaZes mxolod erTmilioniani jarimis qviTari akmaron. Cven SevecadeT, Sesabamis uwyebebSi gagverkvia, ra darRvevebi aRmoaCnda burjanaZes, Tumca informacia konfidencialuri yofila da misi gaxmaurebisgan Tavs ikaveben. giorgi Sengelia, momsax­ urebis sammarTvelos ufro­ sis moadgile: `es ar aris sajaro informacia. kanoni ar maZlevs uflebas, amis Sesaxeb gesaubroT. sagadasaxado kodeqsis 122-e muxliT es aris saidumlo informacia, romelic ar SeiZleba gadavce arauflebamosil pirs. qviTari CvenTan gadmoigzavna, magram konkretul mizezebze verafers getyviT~. `praimtaimi~ jer kidev wina nomrebSi werda burjanaZeebis milionebad Sefasebuli uZravmoZravi qonebis Sesaxeb, romelic parlamentis eqsspikeris deklaraciaSi ar moxvda. rom aRaraferi vTqvaT, wyneTis 10 heqtarsa da iq

_ me mgonia, rom es ukanaskneli movlenebi aris dasasruli, romelic viTardeboda am TvenaxevarSi. _ ratom? opozicia 26 maisisTvis emza­ deba da rogorc amboben, meore sunTqva exsnebaT... _ es meore sunTqva ukve Zalian didi xania exsnebaT, magram ver gaexsnaT. isini Zalian seriozul siurprizebs hpirdebodnen xelisuflebas, rogoric iyo aeroportis gadaketva, satranzito gzebis blokireba da kidev bevri ram, magram araferi ar moxda. es kargia, bunebrivia, radgan es imas niSnavs, rom opoziciaSi zomieri frTa Zlierdeba. anu midis gza molaparakebisken. es Tve-naxevari saintereso iyo imisTvis, rom gamoCnda sapanaSvidod gamzadebuli politikuri partiebic. nu mkiTxavT, romeli partiaa, radgan Tavadac xvdebiT, darwmunebuli var.

mdebare agarakze, romelic qalbatonma ninom danaCanglianadac ki gaiTavisa. saubaria sxva, kidev ufro solidur qonebaze. saburTaloze `delisis~ metrosTan mravalsarTuliani savaWro centri Sendeba. obieqts saxeli ukve SerCeuli aqvs _ mas `ni-ba~ erqmeva, anu nino da badri. burjanaZe-biwaZis wyvili brendebsac ki ukve sakuTari inicialebiT qmnis. sxvaTa Soris, es obieqti is gamonaklisia, romlis mSeneblobac mZvinvare ekonomikuri krizisis fonzec ar SeCerebula. marTalia, burjanaZeebi am mSeneblobasTan yovelgvar kavSirs uaryofen, magram Tbilisi patara qalaqia da yvelam icis, vin vis lobirebs da vin vis ukan dgas. amboben, rom kidev erTi sarfiani obieqti burjanaZis klanma Suagul eliavaze wamoWima. saubaria `megalainze~. is mravalsarTuliani araa, magram uamravi farTobi ukavia, iq ganTavsebuli maRaziebidan ki ninos qisaSi sakmaod didi Tanxa miedineba. am yvelaferTan erTad, Tu ninos ojaxis korufciul SesaZleblobebsac gaviTvaliswinebT, Zneli misaxvedri ar unda iyos, ra Tanxebs eTamaSeba parlamentis eqsspikeri. aSkaraa, rom mas midrekileba aqvs oligarqiisken, an klanuri mmarTvelobisken. sxva raRaa oligarqia, Tu ara erT adamianSi biznesisa da politikis Sexmatkbilebuli Tanacxovreba. Camoyalibdeba Tu ara dinji revolucioneri klasikur oligarqad, amas dro gviCvenebs. ar aris gamoricxuli, manamde qalbaton burjanaZes finansuri wyaroebi gadauketon.

aleqsandre ebraliZisa da vova putinis finansuri kavSirebi daviT janeliZe vin aris aleqsandre ebraliZe? ra­ tom unda saqarTvelos prezidento­ ba? ra akavSirebs putinTan? ratom gaxda politika misi biznesproeqti da rogori bavSvoba hqonda?.. rogorc Cans, masSi bevri avantiura da kidev ufro didi swrafvaa Tavga­ dasavlebisken. avantiura arc biz­ nesSi aklda da rogorc Cans, axla politikaSic am niSniT daimkvidrebs adgils. xmauri ukve atexa.

baTumi

daibada 1955 wels baTumSi, sadac kirovisa da telmanis quCebis gadakveTaze cxovrobda. daamTavra baTumis pirveli saSualo skola. deda Tu maswavlebeli iyo, mama `cexaviki~ hyavda. ase erqvaT maSin biznesmenebs. Sesabamisad, ojaxi SeZlebuli iyo da skolis damTavrebisTanave, 16 wlis aleqsandre moskovSi midis. orwliani wvalebis Semdeg iuridiul fakultetze mainc ver abarebs, amitomac bedis sacdelad maSindel leningradSi gadadis. sanam is sabWoTa ruseTSi cdilobs damkvidrebas, baTumSi mamamiss apatimreben. iese (ioska) ebraliZes im droisTvis sakmaod farTo kontaqtebi hqonda, amitomac imdens axerxebs, rom xruSCovs sTxovs Sewyalebas. xruSCovi `cexavik~ ioskas Seiwyalebs, mogvianebiT ki xels CamoarTmevs da komunisturad gadakocnis, anu samjer akocebs loyaze. baTumelebi axlac ixseneben eras moedans. xruSCovisTvis tribuna swored am moedanze idga. Sua laparakSi ioskas wamouyviria: `do zdrastvuet backa, kotori mne podoril svobodu~... ase miiqcia ioskam xruSCovis yuradReba. mere mTeli baTumi masze laparakobda. bolos da bolos, cota xom ar aris. Tavad xruSCovma CamoarTva xeli. es xelisCamorTmevac sarfianad gamoiyena ebraliZis mamam – maleve daniSnes kinofikaciis (axla kinogaqiravebas rom eZaxian) direqtorad. da TiTqos yvelaferi aewyo cxovrebaSi, rom moulodnelad qobuleTis gzaze qali gaitana da isev daapatimres. marTalia, cixeSi sul oTxi weli gaatara, magram janmrTeloba imdenad Seerya, rom maleve gardaicvala.

piteri

aleqsandre ukve leningradSia. is Sav samyaros ukavSirdeba da fexze dadgomas cdilobs. pirveli nabijebi arcTu ise warmatebuli aRmoCnda. miliciam reketirebisTvis daapatimra. cixeSi eqvsi weli gaatara. pirveli `srokis~ moxdis Semdeg maleve daqorwinda. misi meuRle leningradeli lamazmani, vinme alionaa. baTumSi misi gvari ar axsovT, aliona qmris gvarze gadavida da dRemde ebraliZis gvars atarebs. masTan aleqsandres ori gogo SeeZina. Tavs isev Sav samyarosTan urTierTobiT irCenda. or weliwadSi reketisTvis meored daakaves. maSin aleqsandres ukve wlinaxevris gogo hyavda. aliona mcirewlovan gogonasTan erTad aleqsandrem baTumSi gamogzavna – iq ufro kargad iqnebiTo. ojaxs maSin ukiduresad gauWirda... ebraliZe dros ar kargavda. cixeSi man daamtkica, rom Rirsia, gaxdes qurduli samyaros sruluflebiani wevri. cixeSi is Tavs aravis aCagvrinebda, qurduli azrovnebiTac gamoiCina Tavi da qurduli wesebic zedmiwevniT aiTvisa. amitomac misi avtoriteti gaizarda. `kliCkac~ cixeSi misces _ alika-mebazre. meore `srokidan~ aleqsandre ukve didi kaci gamovida, dauaxlovda leningradis yvelaze gavlenian avtoritetebs da biznesis `gapraveba~ daiwyo. daaarsa ofisi, romelic dRes cnobilia, rogorc `taelon-tera~. is samSeneblo masalebis warmoebiT aris dakavebuli.

biznesi

misi biznespartniori iyo da aris aseve gavleniani pirovneba da milioneri nikolai barsuki. swored maSin dauaxlovnen ebraliZe da barsuki maSindel uSiSroebis oficers vova putins. swored ebraliZisa da barsukis finansebs ukavSirdeba putinis politikuri karierac. amboben, rom Tavis droze swored maT Cades fuli da putini elcinTan daaaxloves. putinis ndobac maSin `iyides~. `Tbili~ urTierToba hqonda `piteris politikur saZmosTan~, anu vladimer putinTan, dimitri medvedevTan da sergei mironovTan. agreTve,

gubernator qalbaton valentina matvienkosTan. maTi daxmarebiT ebraliZem sanktpeterburgSi mTeli biznesimperia Seqmna. misi interesebi vrceldeba TiTqmis yvelaferze am qalaqSi: navTobis importidan – kvebis produqtebamde da saTamaSo biznesamde, rac ebraliZis mTavar vnebad iTvleba; `talioni~ aerTianebs, magaliTad, elitur restornebs, uZvirfasesi Sveicariuli saaTebis maRaziebs, mdidruli avejis salonebs, vip-turistul saagentos, xuTvarskvlavian sastumro `imperials~ da a.S. Tavad iyo reketiri da erT dResac SesaZloa, arc gahkvirvebia, ofisSi sami svani reketiri rom gamoecxada. ebraliZes ukve biznesmenis tituli aqvs. kabinetSi zis, gareT dacva udgas, romelic stumrebs Cxreks. svanebi ebraliZis kabinetSi uiaraRod SeuSves. svanebi jer komfortulad mokalaTdnen da mere ebraliZes uTxres: Sen, Zmao, aq bizness rom akeTeb, Cvens teritoriaze, wili Cvenc gvekuTvniso. ebraliZem bolomde usmina stumrebs, fulis magivrad sxva rame rom SemogTavazoTo, ar uTqvams, magram wynarad adga, kari Caketa da samive magrad galaxao. SeiZleba Tavad xelebi ar gausvria, magram ebraliZis dacvas aba, vin gamoaswrebda? amis Semdeg ebraliZesTan ubatonod aravin misula. `taelon-tera~ dRes piterSi erTerTi umsxvilesi kompaniaa, amasTanave, ebraliZem piteris centrSi sami kvartali iyida da sastumroTa qseli daaarsa. am qselSi Sedis 6-varskvlaviani sastumroebi _ eliseevi da Seremetevo, sadac yvelaze iaffasiani nomeri 500-dan 1500 dolaramde Rirs. oficialurad ebraliZis qoneba 500 milionad aris Sefasebuli. Tumca, es is aris, rac gapravebulia, araoficialurad ki misi qoneba 2 miliard dolarsac ki aRwevs. ebraliZis mTavari biznespartniorebi iyvnen `gansakuTrebuli avtoritetiT~ cnobili Zmebi mixeil da konstantine mirilaSvilebi; aleqsandre ebraliZis biznesjgufis safuZvelia saaqcio sazogadoeba `talioni~, agreTve, `konstans banki~. misi iniciativiT dafuZnda aleqsandre nevelis saxelobis literaturuli premia, peterburgSi daidga petre bagrationis Zegli da Seiqmna `saqarTvelos xalxTa kongresi~. bolos ebraliZem grafi Seremetievis sasaxlec iyida 40 milion dolarad, aRadgina da iq kidev erTi 5-varskvlaviani sastumro ganaTavsa.

politika

pirvelad ebraliZe politikaSi 2003 wels gamoCnda. es vardebis revoluciis dros moxda, roca ebraliZe sakuTari vertmfreniT baTumSi Cafrinda da abaSiZes arwmunebda: ajobebs aqaurobas gaecaloo. axla ebraliZe Tavad apirebs, Camofrindes da politikuri olimpi daipyros. fuli maqvs, avtoritetic da sxva ra mWirdeba kidev? – kiTxulobs is. _ marTalia, saqarTvelos moqalaqe ara var, magram me vTxov saakaSvils da is momaniWebs moqalaqeobas, – darwmunebulia ebraliZe. aleqsandre didi xania Zmakacobs yofil deputat levan pirvelTan da swored amiT aixsneba, rom `saqarTvelos xalxTa pirveli kongresi~ venaSi Catarda, xolo TviT es organizaciac avstriis dedaqalaqSia registrirebuli. masTan erTad am saqmes uZRvebian biznesmeni badri melaZe da profesori vladimer xomeriki. Tumca TviT ruseTSi mcxovreb qarTvelebs Sorisac ebraliZes yvela rodi uWers mxars. magaliTad, mixeil xubutiam `praimtaims~ ganucxada, rom soWSi gamarTul kongresSi, `ra Tqma unda~, ar miuRia monawileoba da arc momavalSi miiRebs. _ imitom, rom politikaSi ar verevi da es dauSveblad mimaCnia. saerTod, aravin icoda, Tu ebraliZe prezidentobaze sakuTar kandidaturas wamoayenebda. orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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a r u i z u gaerTianebuli samefos elCis eqskl levan RvinianiZe roca elCebTan piradi interviuebis seriis gakeTeba gadavwyviteT, maleve gaCnda kiTxva, vin unda yofiliyo pirveli. Tumca pasuxis mofiqrebas kiTxvis gaCenaze naklebi dro dasWirda. gaerTianebuli samefos elCi denis kifi bevri unikaluri TvisebiT gamoirCeva saqarTveloSi movlenil elCebs Soris. maT Soris erT-erTi pirveli qarTulis mSvenieri codnaa. misi mxridan gadmodgmuli am diplomatiuri an, ubralod, megobruli nabijis ukan mravalSviliani mama dgas. interviuSi mkiTxveli sami vaJisa da sami qaliSvilis mSoblis Sexedulebas gacnoba Cvens qveyanaSi mimdinare movlenebsa da qarTul yoveldRiurobaze. _ didma britaneTma demokrati­ is piks ukve miaRwia, maSin, roca saqarTveloSi demokratia Camoya­ libebis gzazea. rogor fiqrobT, ra moxdeba arsebul geopolitikur re­ alobaSi, miaRwevs qveyana am mizans? _ demokratiisTvis rom migveRwia, didma britaneTma didi gza ganvlo. ase rom, ar mikvirs, roca gansxvavebuli istoriis qveynebs es procesi mZimed eCvenebaT. geopolitikuri viTarebis miuxedavad, saqarTvelos ufleba aqvs, sakuTari momavali Tavad gadawyvitos. Cemi mTavari amocanaa, saqarTvelos davexmaro demokratiuli da ekonomikuri reformebis gatarebaSi, davexmaro konfliqtebis mSvidobiani gziT gadawyvetaSi. _ rogor afasebT arsebul situa­ cias, roca saqarTveloSi uamravi saprotesto aqcia da manifestacia mimdinareobs? _ es qarTvelebis gadasawyveti sakiTxia. ara mgonia, rom protests politikuri problemebis gadawyveta SeeZlos. amJamindeli saprotesto aqciebi Semaferxebelia qalaqis yoveldRiuri cxovrebisTvis – saelCos muSaobis CaTvliT. udavod aris politikuri sakiTxebi, rac sazogadoebis sakeTildReod unda mogvardes. erTaderTi swori gza ki amisTvis realuri dialogia. _ rogor fiqrobT, ratom aris prezident saakaSvilis 5-safexuri­ ani gegma miuRebeli opoziciisT­ vis? es ndobis naklebobis gamoa, Tu sakmarisi araa demokratiuli cvli­ lebebisTvis? _ am kiTxviT opozicias unda mimarToT. imedi maqvs, maT, vinc politikaSia CarTuli, SeuZliaT, ndoba aRadginon da SesaZlebeli gaxadon gamWvirvale da nayofieri dialogi. es saqarTvelos momavlisTvisaa saWiro. naTelia, rom bevri sferoa, sadac xalxi fiqrobs, rom SeiZleba situacia gaumjobesdes. qarTvel politikosebs bevri samuSao aqvT im progresis misaRwevad, rasac sazogadoeba iTxovs. _ Tqven, rogorc elCi, axlos xarT, magram ar xarT CarTuli politikur TamaSebSi. ras urCevdiT politikosebsa da sazogadoebas? _ elCs ar SeuZlia, konkretuli rCeva mogceT. magram msoflios sxvadasxva qveynebSi miRebuli gamocdilebidan gamomdinare, SemiZlia vTqva, rom demokratias sWirdeba mudmivi muSaoba, gulaxdiloba, dialogi da

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kompromisi. es yvelaferi saqarTvelos winsvlisken gzas apovninebs.

eqskluziurad piradi _ roca karieraSi pirvel nabi­ jebs dgamdiT, warmoidgendiT, rom odesme saqarTveloSi icxovrebdiT? _ roca diplomatiur samsaxurSi movedi, saqarTvelo jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris nawili iyo. moxaruli var, rom es dReebi ukan darCa da SesaZlebloba maqvs, viyo elCi damoukidebel saqarTveloSi. _ sad iswavleT qarTuli ena? _ qarTuli internetiT viswavle, viyavi SvedeTSi, malmos universitetis onlain-studenti. mas Semdeg, vmuSaob maswavleblebTan erTad inglisSic da saqarTveloSic. SesaniSnavi maswavlebeli myavs aq, enis skolaSi _ nana SavTvalaZe _ vin iyo Tqveni piradi maswavle­ beli? _ manana kox-kobaiZe malmos universitetSi. is SarSan Camovida saqarTveloSi da SesaZlebloba mqonda, pirvelad Sevxvedrodi mas. mas Semdeg amdeni vimuSave masTan erTad onlainSi. inglisSi ramdenime gakveTili Camitara meore SesaniSnavma pedagogma manana salaZem. _ roca saqarTvelos datovebT, Tu gaagrZelebT qarTuli enis swav­ las? _ imedi maqvs. _ qarTuli gamonaklisia, Tu yve­ la im qveynis enas swavlobT, sadac muSaobT? _ yovelTvis vcdilob, im xalxis ena viswavlo, visTanac vmuSaob. ase magaliTad, viswavle Cexuri, roca praRaSi viyavi. keniaSi svahils daveufle. roca londonSi saqme Soreul aRmosavleTTan mqonda, cota Cinuric viswavle. _ qarTul samzareuloze ra azris xarT? Tu iswavleT romelime qar­ Tuli kerZis damzadeba? _ qarTuli sufra Zalian momwons. rogorc elCs, romelsac oficialuri rezidencia maqvs, ar maqvs SesaZlebloba, Tavad movamzado sadili. roca saxlSi varT, Cemi coli amzadebs, is mSvenieri mzareulia, gansakuTrebiT kargad gamosdis inglisuri keqsi da pudingi. _ rogorc britaneli diplomati, rogor xedavT saqarTvelos yovel­ dRiur realobas? sad vcxovrobT axla da ra aris Cveni uaxloesi per­ speqtiva? _ saqarTvelo aris qveyana, romelic jer isev viTardeba. 1990-iani wlebis savalalo gamocdileba niSnavs, rom ganviTareba nela daiwyo, sabWoTa kavSiris daSlis Semdeg. rac aq var, bevri ram vnaxe, riTac qarTvelebs SeuZliaT, iamayon, magram yvela, visac vxvdebi, imaze saubrobs, ra SeiZleba gaumjobesdes – ekonomikaSi, politikaSi, kanonmdeblobaSi, arCevnebSi, mediaSi. bevri ramea gasakeTebeli, magram me mjera, rom qarTvelebi SeZleben amis gakeTebas. _ saer­

Tod, Tu gaqvT sayvareli adgilebi qalaqsa da qveyanaSi? aris TbilisSi adgili, sadac seirnoba giyvarT? _ me da Cemi coli xSirad vseirnobT TbilisSi. gviyvars Zveli qalaqi da mSrali xidis bazroba. gagvimarTla, sakmaod bevri lamazi adgili movinaxuleT saqarTveloSi – Zalian Znelia, avarCio maT Soris saukeTeso. kargad maxsovs Cemi pirveli viziti mTaSi – mTa-TuSeTSi. quTaisSi vizitic yovelTvis didi siamovnebaa, uelsis niuportTan misi myari kavSirebis gamo. Cemi samuSao aseve gulisxmobs, rom maqvs SesaZlebloba, afxazeTs vewvio. marTlac mSvenieri mxarea. am kviris bolos kidev erT sayvarel adgils vewvevi, lagodexSi mivdivar da kidev erT axal adgils vnaxav – vaSlovans. _ Tqveni sayvareli adgilebi dedamiwaze? _ Cemi sayvareli adgilia patara qalari eseqsSi _ braitlingsi, sadac Cemi mSoblebi cxovrobdnen da sadac bavSvoba gavatare, CrdiloeT zRvaze naosnobasa da Citebis yurebaSi. axla rom vgegmavde msoflios garSemo mogzaurobas, aucileblad iqidan daviwyebdi. wavidodi germaniaSi freiburg-imbreisgauSi, praRaSi, leiq baringoSi, keniaSi da tokioSi. ra Tqma unda, vcxovrob saqarTveloSi. ase rom, sxva adgilebis CamoTvla aRar aris saWiro. aq bevri megobari gaviCine da maTTan siamovnebiT vatareb dros. _ marT­ lac Zalian didi ojaxi gaqvT da ba­ v ­S v e b i T mdid ­ ari xarT, sad cxovro­ ben da swa­ v l o b e n Tqveni Svi­ lebi? _ isini bri­t aneTSi sxvadasxva u n ­i v e r s i t ­ ­ etsa da sko­l­ aSi swavloben. Cemma uf­rosma qaliSvilma ukve daamTavda, magram isev universitetSia, ax-

piradi interviu la enis Terapevtis profesias eufleba. moxaruli varT, rom Cvens bavSvebs SeuZliaT saqarTveloSi regularulad Camosvla. isini zafxulSi aq ramdenime kviriT darCebian – imedi gvaqvs, yazbegsa da baTumSi waviyvanT maT. _ did britaneTSi bevri qarTveli studentia, rogor xedavT maT rols saqarTvelos momavalSi? _ es maTzea damokidebuli! magram warmatebas vusurveb karieris arCevaSi da saqarTvelos momavalSi wvlilis SetanaSi. moxaruli var, rom did britaneTs SeuZlia, xeli Seuwyos sazRvargareT axalgazrdebis swavlas Civiningisa da jon smit trastis stipendiebiT. _ ras fiqrobT qarTul xelovne­ baze? qarTuli xelovnebis romeli sfero SeiZleba gaxdes msoflio `bestseleri~? _ Zalian bevri. qarTul muzeumebs aqvs imis potenciali, rom msoflio donis gaxdes. ramac yvelaze metad aRmafrTovana es cekvaa _ an Tundac klasikuri baleti, rasac aseTi ostatobiT uZRveba nino ananiaSvili, an Tundac iseTi ansamblebis tradiciuli cekvebi, rogoric `erisionia~. _ yoveldRiur saqarTveloSi ra aris yvelaze poziti­ uri da negatiuri mxa­ reebi, razec dip­ lomatebi Riad arcTu xSirad saubroben? _ yvelaze didi pozitivi qarT­v­ elebis spo­ ntanuroba da energ­ iaa. kidev mSvenieri peizaJi. ris Secvl­ as visu­ r­v e­ bdi? x a l x s Se­u Zlia, naklebi mowios da us­af­ r ­T x o e b i s Rvedebi Seikras. es ori ram bevris sicocxles gadaarCens.

daTo avaliSvili saqarTveloSi Seqmnil viTarebasa da ruseT-saqarTvelos urTierTobaTa perspeqtivebze `praimtaimi~ esaubra erT-erT yvelaze gavlenian rus politologs, saxelmwifo saTaTbiros deputats sergei markovs. _ batono sergei, ramdenad akvirdeba rusuli saeqsperto sazogadoeba saqarTveloSi mimdinare movlenebs? saer­ Tod, ramdenad sainteresoa es movlenebi TqvenTvis? _ ruseTisTvis namdvilad ar

fil qmars adanaSaulebs. swored am kompleqsidan da miTologemidan gamomdinare, qarTuli elita yvelaferSi ruseTs adanaSaulebs. maT Soris agvistos omSic. ruseTi mxars uWers afxazeTisa da samxreT oseTis mosaxleobas maSin, rodesac afxazeTsac da samxreT oseTsac qarTuli elita sakuTar teritoriad miiCnevs. magram, bolos da bolos, qarTveli xalxi gaixsenebs, rom mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi swored ruseTi ifaravda saqarTvelos,

qveynis bazebi da Tavs ar unda esxmodes damoukidebel afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTs. _ da rogor warmogidge­ niaT ruseTisadmi megobru­ li qarTuli saxelmwifos sazRvrebi? _ ruseTisadmi megobruli qarTuli saxelmwifoc unda arsebobdes im sazRvrebSi, romelSic qarTvel ers arseboba SeuZlia. ese igi sazRvrebSi, r o ­m e l T a C a m­ o y ­

vilia. xelisuflebaSi SeiZleba amJamindeli `gaerTianebuli opoziciac~ movides. am opoziciaSi Cven is mogvwons, rom is ar aris mzad, axali omi gaaCaRos. Cvenc swored da mxolod es gvainteresebs _ omzea orientacia Tu mSvidobaze. Tu xelisuflebaSi ar iqnebian samxedro damnaSaveni, Tu orientacia iqneba ruseTsa da mSvidobaze, diplomatia saSualebas mogvcems, nabij-nabij davZlioT yvela sirTule, moviSuSoT iarebi,

qarTveli eris mTavari mteri qarTuli saxelmwifoa! aris sulerTi, vin gaimarjvebs saqarTveloSi. Cven didi yuradRebiT vakvirdebiT imas, Tu ra xdeba saqarTveloSi, radgan saqarTvelo istoriulad Cveni diadi samSoblos – didi ruseTis nawilia. CvenTvis Zalian mwarea, rom saqarTveloSi jer kidev 20 wlis winaT xelisuflebaSi movidnen da dRemde rCebian qarTveli eris uborotesi mtrebi. am borotma, antirusulma da antiqarTulma Zalebma saqarTvelos Tavs daatexes yvela ubedureba – siRatake, konfliqtebi da omi ruseTTan. Zalian gvinda, rom saqarTvelo, bolos da bolos, gons moegos, gamovides am ocwliani koSmaridan. saqme ra aris iciT? – saqarTveloSi ruseTis mimarT Camoyalibda `mitovebuli colis~ miTologema da Sesabamisi fsiqologiuri kompleqsi. mitovebuli coli yvelaferSi yo-

ruseTi ex­ ma­reboda da xels uwyobda saqarTvelos ayvavebas. momavalSic ase iqneba – adre Tu gvian saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi mova prorusuli politikosi, romelic daiwyebs ruseTTan mWidro integracias da saqarTvelo kvlav ayvavdeba – amaSi iotisodeni eWvi ar mepareba. _ ki magram, rogor unda mov­ idnen qveynis saTaveSi proru­ suli Zalebi? ra meqanizmiT apirebs ruseTi am Zalebis qvey­ nis saTaveSi moyvanas? hyavs ki ruseTs Tavisi kandidatura prezidentis postze? _ ruseTisTvis sul erTi ar aris, vin mova Tqveni qveynis saTaveSi – iqneba araadekvaturi irakli oqruaSvili, romelsac seriozuli Sansi aqvs, qveynis saTaveSi movides da meore `qarTveli napoleoni~ gaxdes. pirveli `qarTveli napoleoni~ saakaS-

wyenebi da gadavideT konstruqciul molaparakebebze. _ nino burjanaZem sarCeli aRZra prezidentis winaaRmdeg im braldebis gamo, rom igi ru­ seTidan finansdeba. xarT Tu ara darwmunebuli, rom mos­ kovi ar agzavnis fuls saqa­ rTveloSi, raTa mdgomareoba kidev ufro arios? _ me ase gipasuxebT: saqarTvelo dRes ruseTis mtruli saxelmwifoa. saerTod, mimaCnia, rom qarTveli eris mTavari mteri da yvela misi ubedurebis wyaro aris qarTuli saxelmwifo! qarTuli saxelmwifo dRes ara mxolod ruseTis mteria, aramed TviT qarTveli erisac!!! anu qarTuli saxelmwifo aris saqarTvelos, rogorc qveynis, mteri. saqarTvelo SeiZleba arsebobdes saxelmwifos gareSec. anu ruseTis interesi aq TvalnaTelia. rac Seexeba burjanaZis sarCels, vfiqrob, igi cdilobs...

Zalian ostaturad ki gamosdis qalbaton ninos: SevardnaZisgan ukanasknel momentSi saakaSvilis navSi gadaskupda da axlac bolo momentSi ostaturad gadaxta axali opoziciis navSi. _ ese igi, Tqven adasturebT imas, rac araerTgzis uTqvams bevrs saqarTveloSi: rom ru­ seTi ar aris dainteresebuli saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebri­ obis arsebobiT? _ diax, ruseTi dainteresebulia, kargi urTierToba hqondes qarTvel erTan. qarTveli eri da qarTuli saxelmwifo sxvadasxva ramaa. qarTvel ers unda SeeZlos, airCios ruseTTan integraciis forma: SeiZleba es iyos ruseTis SemadgenlobaSi Sesvla, an erTiani ekonomikuri sivrce, Tu axali samokavSireo xelSekruleba. bolos da bolos, Tu qarTveli xalxi saxelmwifos airCevs, ki batono – misi nebaa, magram es saxelmwifo ruseTisadmi megobruli unda iyos; iq ar unda iyos sxva

EXCLUSIVE

sergei markovi:

a­libeba sabolood 2008 wlis agvistos mere daiwyo – afxazeTisa da samxreT oseTis gareSe. _ Tqveni azriT, riT dasrul­ deba SidaqarTuli dapirisp­ ireba? _ asi procentiT darwmunebuli var, rom saakaSvili male wava. rodis da rogor – sxva sakiTxia, magram 2013 wlamde rom ver miaRwevs, amaSi eWvi ar mepareba. jerjerobiT ar aris naTeli, vin mova saakaSvilis nacvlad. TiTqosda udidesi Sansi aqvs levan gaCeCilaZes, magram Sinagan saqmeTa saministro da armia irakli oqruaSvils dauWers mxars. rac Seexeba aleqsandre ebraliZes, romelmac soWSi ganacxada, rom surs saqarTvelos prezidentoba – rac ufro meti prorusi qarTveli gamoCndeba scenaze, miT ukeTesi, Tumca xelisuflebaSi maT mosvlas dro dasWirdeba.

ratom agebs opozicia dasavleTSi sainformacio oms? `gaerTianebulma opoziciam~ dasavleTSi sainformacio `piar~kampaniis sawarmoeblad specialuri jgufi Seqmna, romlis SemadgenlobaSi Sevidnen `cnobadi~ saxeebi: nino burjanaZe, irakli alasania da salome zurabiSvili. bunebrivia, igulisxmebian is moRvaweebi, visac evropasa da amerikaSi garkveuli kavSirebi aqvT, S e u Z l ­i a T s a ­s u r v e l i S T a b e W ­d ­ ilebis Se­q­mna da in­­for­ma­ c­iebis ga­ vrceleba. salome

zurabiSvili sami dRiT iyo mivlenili briuselSi, sadac xavier solanas Sexvda. unda iTqvas, rom xavier solanasTan qalbaton salomes arcTu Tbili urTierToba aqvs, jer kidev ministrobis droidan. baton xaviers qalbaton salomes diplomatiuri stili ar moswonda da qarTvel ministrs Tavisi qveynis realur SesaZleblobaTa araswor Sefasebasa da metismet ambiciurobaSi adanaSaulebda. TbilisSi dabrunebulma zur­ a­biSvilma ar damala, rom mZime saubari hqonda. rac kidev ufro sainteresoa, irakli alasania da nino burjanaZe sakuTar SesaZleblobebs TiTqmis ar an ver iyeneben da amis mizezi saeWvoa, is iyos,

TiTqos saqarTvelos ver toveben – raki aq yoveldRe SeiZleba revolucia moxdes. rogorc Cans, maT ubralod ar SeuZliaT im tendenciis Secvla, rac dasavleTSi batondeba saqarTvelosTan da opoziciur aqciebTan dakavSirebiT. es damokidebuleba ki elCebis cnobil gancxadebebSi vlindeba. safrangeTis, amerikis, didi britaneTis, CexeTis elCebma arcTu sasiamovno gancxadebebi gaakeTes, ramac opoziciur liderebs Secdomebic daaSvebina. magaliTad, goga xaindravam ramdenime dRis win mitingze ganacxada, rom fekaluri masebiT savse tomrebs amerikis saelCosTan miitanda: `Tu amxanagi tefti ver grZnobs suns

rusTavelis gamziridan – Cven davexmarebiT, rom igrZnos~. bunebrivia, amerikis saelCoSi TanamSromelTa mTeli Stati muSaobs informaciis mopovebaze da elC tefts yofili saxelmwifo ministrisa da opoziciis amJamindeli lideris gancxadebasac daudebdnen magidaze. aseT viTarebaSi oficialuri vaSingtonis mxridan opoziciis mxardaWerasa an Tundac simpaTiaze laparaki zedmetia. Tu ase gaagrZeles, opoziciis liderebs SesaZloa, dasavluri qveynebis vizebic aRar miscen. am dros ki eqspertebis nawili (gansakuTrebiT opoziciasTan daaxloebuli eqspertebi) Civis – opozicias xelisuflebasTan SedarebiT naklebi resursi

aqvs, raTa dasavleTSi Tavisi simarTle miitanoso. arada, ra resursi sWirdeba imas, rom amerikis elCs sajarod Tavslafi ar daasxa mitingze? albaT, mxolod inteleqtualuri.

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goga xaindrava da irakli baTiaSvili

nino burjanaZe da koko gamsaxurdia 12

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mamuliCa

oTar meRvineTuxucesi

Tako abaSiZe

Tako CxeiZe

agnesas deda _ ela mariam asaTiani da Tika maxaldiani

jansuR Carkviani da kote ColoyaSvili orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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dea TavberiZe filmi `garigeba~ realur ambavzea agebuli. Telavis erT-erT sofelSi momxdari SemTxveva sasamarTlo procesis gansjis sagnad qceula. 1992 wels amis Seaxeb gazeTi `alaznis ganTiadic~ werda. am gazeTSi gamoqveynebuli statia

gaxda filmis gadaRebis realuri mizezi...…scenaris avtori ki zaza koleliSvilis meuRle, naTia gogoWuria. 90-ian wlebSi msaxiobma zaza koleliSvilma megobarTan erTad kinostudia `aspirozi~ Seqmna da filmis gadaReba gadawyvita. male ruseTidan sponsoric gamoCnda, gadaReba 400 000 maneTiT daafinansa da Tanamedrove filmic SeukveTa. naTia go­go­Wu ­ ri: daviwyeT Temebis Zebna. komediuri Ja­ nri avirCieT _ kaxeli personaJebiT. 4-5 dRe gvqonda imisTvis, rom ararsebuli scenari filmad qceuliyo. Zebna-ZebnaSi kaxeTSi CavediT. Cemma dedamTilma, nunu mataraZem statia dagvido magidaze da gviTxra _ es yvelaferi kinoversiad rom iqces, araCveulebrivi iqnebao. ambavi filmisgan gansxvavebiT, namdvili ambis realuri gmirebis sasamarTlo procesi didxans gagrZelebula. moqiSpe qalbatonebs Sorisac xSiri konfliqti da xelCarTuli brZola imarTeboda... realurma marom qalaqSi Cawera ganizraxa. survilis asasruleblad ki qmrisTvis konservatoriis pedagogi SearCia... gegma martivi iyo: qmari axal colTan xels moawerda, TbilisSi Caewereboda,

- naRdi maro paparazi

mere gascildeboda da qalaqSic erTi oTaxi eqnebodaT. Tumca... gaTvlam ar gaamarTla. maros prototipi afiorisTvis lamis daiWires, qmari ki sasamarTlo gadawyvetilebiT meore cols miakuTvnes. ambavi yvelas Zalian moewona. naTia gogoWurma scenaric gamoacxo. daiwyo mzadeba msaxiobebis SesarCevad. es saqmec Zalian male mogvarda. mitos rolis Semsrulebeli…goga pipinaSvili, zazas megobari iyo. maros roli Tavidan sxvas unda eTamaSa, magram dRes Tvlian, rom am rolisTvis nanuli sarajiSvili zedgamoWrili iyo. akura `sofel-sofel davdiodiT, gadasaRebad iseT adgils veZebdiT, sadac yvela soflis erToblivi yofa aisaxeboda. bolos mivageniT sofel akuras da kalatoziSvilebis saxli gadaviReT. cota xnis win saxlis patronma

damireka _ Tu garigeba oris gadaReba isev ZalaSia, CemTan modiT, araferi Secvlila Cvens saxlSio~. am ambebis mosmenis Semdeg `praimtaimma~ gezi kaxeTisken aiRo. sofel akuraSi 80 wlis zano bebom gvimaspinZla. maroianT saxlSi dekoraciebi marTlac ucvleli dagvxvda. rogorc akuraSi gviTxres, filmis realuri gmiri kondolidan iyo. kondoleli kaxelebi Cvenma vizitma Zalian gaamxiarula. Cven cotaTi dagvabnia. am ambavTan dakavSirebiT sofelSi sxvadasxva versiaa. erT-erTi versiiT maros prototipi Telavis saavadmyofoSi sanitrad muSaobda. erTma moxucma isic gviTxra Tqven visac eZebT imis qmari lurji iyo da

ai imasa ara, veranair qalze ver gaasaRebdao... gakvirvebulma, roca vikiTxe, lurji ra aris-meTqi. CaeRima, kul­ turulad - cisferio. yvelaze cnobili versiiT ki am filmis namdvili gmiri, sofelSi aRiarebuli mTqmeli, raisa RaRoSvili iyo, romelic oTxi wlis win gardacvlila. yavalaanT maRaziaSi Tavmoyrilma qalebma misi saxli migvaswavles. Senoba, romelSic kondolelebis TqmiT, garigebis gmirebi realurad cxovrobdnen, TiTqmis dangreulia. … 1993 wels miunxenis axalgazrdul kinofestivalze `garigeba~ saukeTeso scenarisTvis, priziT daajildoves. warmatebis miuxedavad filmisa da filmis avtorebis istoria ucnaurad gagrZelda. kinostudia `aspirozi~ mxolod am filmiT Semoifargla da daixura. sakmaod popularulma filmma, mogeba ver moitana. `cudi dro daemTxva, saqarTveloSi omianobis periodi iyo. kuponmac fuli gaaufasura. dRes rom yofiliyo filmis premiera, Tanxas erTi aTad amoviRebdiT... ruseTidan Ta­ nxis dabruneba moiTxoves. Tanxa Cvenma megobarma dafara, Tumca vali mainc dagvrCa, rasac Cveni ori bina Seewira kidec. amis gamo Zalian didxans naqiravebSi vcxovrobdiT~. Wori realobad iqceva? garigeba ori qalaqSi erTi periodi Wori agorda, `garigebis~ meore nawili gadaiRes da `Serigeba~ daarqveso. Serigebis mixedviT maro TurqeTSi midioda, mdidrdeboda da qmarsac ibrunebda. `ise mimtkicebdnen, filmi realurad ariso da Sinaarssac hyvebodnen, me da zazas eWvic ki Segvepara. gagrZelebis gadaRebas marTlac vapirebdiT. scenaric maqvs dawerili, romlis mixedviT maro depresiidan gamodis, samaWanklos Camoayalibebs da SemTxveviT, raRac momentSi, gadaikveTeba colqmris gzebi... Tumca, isev maqvs imedi, rom am films gadaviRebT, amitom finali modi saidumlod davtovoT…

gantvirTvis wuTebi `Night office~-Si

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vano manqanaSi gamoZinebasac aswrebs

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avtografi da bednieri mama

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vano javaxiSvili _ `Cveni Sous~ msxverpli a

a a a a b e ano ga

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dea TavberiZe paparacis msxverplad vano javaxiSvili SevarCieT. mere gadavwyvite masTan inter­ viuc Camewera. magram ratom­ Rac moiwyina da damunjda. gasarTobi Sous wamyvani Jur­ nalistTan sakmaod Caketili aRmoCnda. amisTvis mas serio­ zuli mizezic hqonia _ ,,nev­ rozi maqvs oficialuraaad.~ _ ganmicxada da sawyali Tvale­ biT gadmomxeda. vicodi, rom SoumenTan mqonda saqme da si­ marTle sicruis zRvaris gav­ leba CemTvis ioli ar iqneboda. gadaviwyvite mec Sous format­ Si Cavmjdariyavi, da mis gan­ sakurnad Tu asalaparakeblad msaxiobis niRabi momergo... _ vano, erTi saidumlo minda gagando. oRond Sempirdi, rom aravis arafers etyvi. gakvirvebuli TvalebiT Semomxeda. saidumlos mosmenis molodinSi gaisusa. `saidumlo? me?~ saxeze Rimilic daefina.... ucnaurma xerxma imoqmeda... _sanam saidumlos gagan­ dobde, miTxari Sav gias ratom uCmaxeb? _ barabanSiks? magari jigaria. es ra aris? (diqtafons gakvirvebuli uyurebs). _ diqtofonia. ai, axla Sens saubarsac Cavwer da mere ga­ zeTSi waikiTxav...:)) kiTxulob Cvens gazeTs? _ rogor ar vkiTxulob absoluturad yvelas, Cven xom

mamalaZis... es kokoc rogori Seyvarebuli yofila.... saidumlos gamxelis dro _ ici, mec Sens `barabanSikze~ var Seyvarebuli. _ rogor Seyvarebuli? _ miyvars da Tavs ver verevi... _ ratom kaco, ram Segayvara... seriozulad giyvars Tu megobrulad? _ megobrulad da seriozu­ lad siyvaruli ras niSnavs? ar vici ra mWirs. sul giaze vfiqrob... miSvele rame gTxov. _ ras ambob kaco, gia `barabanSiks~ coli hyavs... da ori biWi... Sen qmari ara gyavs? :-) am scenis gaTamaSebis mTeli eSxi imaSia, rom gia `barabanSikis~ coli me var, am scenaris avtori :)) es vanom ar icis... _ mere, ra rom coli hyavs. mainc damexmare gexvewebi. sami welia ase avadmyofurad vi­ tanjebi... ici ra saSinel dReSi var? Rameebi Tavze maTendeba... leqsebis werac daviwye. ro­ gorme Tavi unda Sevayvaro. magiJebs... tipia raRacnairi. magis dakvras movusmine da ufro Semiyvarda.... _ anu, Tvli rom ase aravin gyvarebia cxovrebaSi da gagacno ginda? _ho, oRond ar unda mixvdes, rom Seyvarebuli var. ar vic­ nob da 1357 leqsi maqvs dawer­ ili. misi fotoebic maqvs... sax­ lTanac davudarajdi... oTxi saaTis mere gamoCnda. barSic

es marTla diqtafonia? presaze vmuSaobT da isec, saintereso raRaceebi iwereba TqvenTan... _ ra waikiTxe? _ Wyonias ambavi, Svilis gvari rom ar icis, WoxoneliZis da

xSirad davdivar da vusmen... oRond aravisTan Tqva ge­ xvewebi. amaTTan araferi wa­ mogcdes. Torem xom ici scenar­ istebis ambavi... Tavs moviklav es ambavi rom gaskdes...

_ ara, adamiani var mec, ras ambob, arsad ar vityvi kaco. Tavidan amoigde es... ho, magram coli rom hyavs ra unda qna? _ ase gulaxdilad rom mogi­ yevi yvelaferi avnerviuldi... rodis gamacnob? gegma _ nu nerviulob, raRacas mogixerxeb... (fiqrobs) paraskevs sam saaTze modi Caweraze da gagacnob... vetyvi Jurnalistia da SenTan unda interviu-meTqi, mere Sen dagtoveb da elaparake raRaceebi. ise, evaseba gogoebi... _ Sen ra ici? ar maeWviano axla... _ adamiano giasTan erTad vmuSaob xuTi welia. gogoebi eva-se-ba. me rom vekaifebi gwyins albaT... _ ara, ar mwyins. imitom rom TviTonac ar swyins. etyoba... sigarets marTla ase iTxovs? _ara, avugoreT... _ rogor movxiblo? ra vuTxra? vanos rCevebi _SegiZlia uTxra, rom Tayvanismcemeli var Seni da yovel Sens gadacemaze davdivar... an gadavwyvite intervius Cawera... an uTxari, Tu SeiZleba dagirekoT xolme da mogikiTxoTo... ra vici, aTasi xerxia. me maqsimalurad dagexmarebi... mokled, unda Seaba... _ biWebTan araferi Tqva, gex­ vewebi. _ ar vambob adamiano, ara var egeTi adamiani. _ vici, mivxvdi, rom ar xar da imitom movedi ase gulaxdi­ lad... _ oRond giasTan ar daiwva. _ mgoni Tavbru damexveva... Zalian vnebiani da seqsualuri xma aqvs... _ maindamainc egreve nu danebdebi, ar SeiZleba... biWebi xo ici, yvela erTmaneTs hgavs, erTnairia suyvela. mere ufro uaresi ar iyos SenTvis. ... Tavidan, vTqvaT, dainteresda, mere ki SeiZleba giTxras _ meSinia ojaxi ar damengreso da megobrebad davrCeTo... mere ra unda qna? _ adamiano, gias davuwere 1357 leqsi, ici es ras niSnavs? (ratom avikviate es cifri ar vici) javaxiSvils bednieri saxe aqvs, kvdeba siciliT, mgoni nevrozisganac bolomde ganikurna... _ amdeni leqsi ram dagawerina? _ siyvarulma, ratom dam­ cini? seriozul saxes iRebs. _ ara, ar dagcini. yvelanairad dagexmarebi. Tavis Seyvareba Tu ginda aucilebelia garSemo utrialo. maincdamainc nu gaixsnebi egreve... ise, verc warmovidgendi, rom Sen ase gagagiJebda gias siyvaruli.... Tan saqme vano, erTi wamiT ra magari kadria, Cafiqrebuli xar, fo­ tosac gadagiReb... cota ze­ moT aixede.... cotac marcxniv, ... ai, ase, Tan saqmec gavake­ ToT... ra Tqma unda, paraskevs vanosTan Caweraze ar mivedi... mindoda yvelaferi orSabaTis nomrisTvis siurprizad darCeniliyo... p.s. Zalian guldasawyve­ tia, rom orSabaT dRes vanos gverdiT ar viqnebi da Cemi fotoaparati mis gakvirvebul saxes ver daafiqsirebs.

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ui, miRebT? intimuri adgilebi ar gamomiCinooT

vano colisTvis nayidi miwisTxiliT

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mSieri vano

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me Sen marTla Seyvarebuli megone

orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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`Cemi praimtaimi~

`sanos~ wer qalis sur TaTia paWkoria

ras gpirdebiT da ra dagrCebaT Cemi `praimtaimi­ dan~? gavriskav da kidev erTxel Sev­ ecdebi, nebismieri persona ise war­ mogidginoT, ro­ gorc adamianobisa da cotaTi araa­ damianobis os­ tatic, raTa meore adamians mieces garkveul sakvebi misi pirovnebis Camosayalibeblad da Tundac dra­ matuli aRiarebi­ sTvis. albaT, es iqneba Cemi SemoqmedebiTi cxovrebis simdidre da sirTulec... magram es yvelaferi Tqvengan unda miviRo, visac Cems sxvadasxva rubrikaSi monawileobisT­ vis dagirekavT, Tumca mxolod `diadni ama qveynisani~ ar iZlevian saukeTeso sakvebs... merwmuneT, Tundac yvelaze upretenzio da naklebad cnobadi xalxisganac SeiZleba ra­ Rac sainteresos miReba...

`me ukve maSin viyavi damoukidebeli adamiani, Tqven gesmiT, es ras niSnavs???~

mis emociur mexsierebaSi isev im yvavilebis suni trialebs, bavSvobis dros rom icoda xonSi damdgarma imerulma gazafxulma, romelic yovelTvis erTaderTi da ganumeorebeli iyo, atmisa da tirifebis uvertiuris msgavsi... `is suni me vici, rogoria, me xonSi divibade da Cemi raionis yvela quCisa da ubnis suni vici... yofila SemTxveva, sxva qveyanaSi gamivlia quCaSi gazafxulze da migrZnia, rom es surneleba CarCenilia tvinis romeliRac ujredSi~. aqedanve iwyeba feris, bgeris, garemosa da pirovnuli damoukideblobis SegrZneba. gavlena hqonda imereTs, Tbiliss, mogvianebiT evropas, Tumca yvelaferi erTi ubralo samWedlodan daiwyo, sadac grdemlze gaxurebuli rkina ucnaur bgerebs gamoscemda... `mamaCemi, oTar sanoZe, igive `babu~, erTi patiosani kaci iyo... rkinis samWedlo hqonda da aTasgvar sagans akeTebda. SeeZlo, rkinisgan yurZnis mtevanic ki aewyo. man maswavla rkinis damuSaveba da 12 wlis viyavi, roca miTxra: Sen es yvelaferi uk­ve ic­ io~.

merab sanoZe _ adamiani, romelic daxvda dros...

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rilebi rneliT es nakeTobebi SesaZloa, arcTu ise Rirebuli da unaklo iyo, Tumca iqamdec da Semdegac misTvis rkinis damuSavebis codna cxovrebaSi gacilebiT umniSvnelo aRmoCnda, vidre grdemlTan muSaobisas gaxurebuli rkinis mier gamocemuli jadosnuri xmebi da aseve pirveli yvelaze saamayo gancda, gansakuTrebiT mamakacisTvis: `me maSin ukve viyavi damoukidebeli adamiani. Tqven gesmiT, es ras niSnavs? yovelTvis kargia, roca Svils aZlev damoukideblobas, magram ara Tavgasulobis uflebas. me xom imas ar vambob, rom wigni wavikiTxe aTasi... Semdeg esec iyo, magram videqi grdemlTan da SemeZlo, raRac gamekeTebina. grdemli saocari ram aris, sadac ar unda daartya CaquCi, yvelgan sxvadasxvagvar xmebs gamoscems, milioni bgera aqvs da gansakuTrebiT maSin, rodesac masze gaxurebuli rkina devs. warmoidgine, Sen Wedav, saqmes akeTeb da am dros gesmis musika, SesaZloa, mas ar aqvs harmonia, melodia, maram, merwmuneT, es musikaa bunebaSi arsebuli~. mas Semdeg `sano~ aTasgvar dasartyam instruments agrovebs ucnauri xmebiT, maT Sorisaa mis mierve mogonili didi xis mori `asormocdaaTiani~ lursmniT~. `koncertze mqonda waRebuli erTi didi mori, romelsac vaWedebdi lursmans, Tan mikrofoni mqonda midebuli da vicodi, sadamde unda damertya... yvela dartymas sxvadasxva xma hqonda. am aRmoCenam amerikelebic gaaoca~. ase iqca hobi cxovrebaSi mTavar saqmed. da is Seeba uRelSi, romelic Tavidan bolomde Seerwya mis xasiaTs. dRes merab sanoZe, igive `sano~, saqarTveloSi erTerTi damoukidebeli xmis Camweri studiis mflobelia. rogorc Tavad ambobs, cnobadi da ara cnobili musikosi da araerTi gaxmaurebuli

proeqtis avtori, magram iqamde is `mouxda Tbiliss~ da mis mierve aRmoCenil bednierebas...

`me daWrili var, rogorc xoxobi, da TbilisSi var Camovardnili~

`Tbiliss ki ar unda moergo, unda mouxde... fantastiuri Tbilisi damxvda. studenti rom gavxvdi, samma megobarma simRerebi gavakeTeT, ubralo simRerebi iyo sam xmaSi, `Wyinti yvelis Wama miyvars~ da aseTi tipis. stipendia 40 maneTi mqonda da megobrebi yovelTve restoran `afxazeTSi~ davdiodiT, davlevdiT xolme erT boTls da vmRerodiT, Cxubi iq ar iyo da araferi. da iciT, bolos, ra xdeboda? ocdaaTi boTli Rvino saCuqrad gvqonda da sufra gadaxdili gaxldaT... mere am Rvinos an sxvebs vugzavnidiT an vanaxvinebdiT... ai, aseTi iyo Tbilisi, axla msgavsi raRacebi ar xdeba...~ me ukeTess getyviT, batono merab, aseTi raRacebi ara mxolod aRar xdeba, aramed qalsac ki SeiZleba gadaaxdevinon fuli mamakacebma da sakmaod cnobadebmac. samwuxaroa, magram faqtia...

`gardaqmnili~ politeqnikuri instituti da bedis gulmowyaleba

rodesac bedi gulmowyalea, adamians sibrZne akldeba, Tumca ara yovelTvis. `me davamTavre saxelmwifo politeqnikuri institutis samSeneblo fakulteti. Tavidanve gamimarTla, radgan pirvelive kursze movxvdi kapelaSi, Semdeg ansambl `SvidkacaSi~ da weliwadSi sam-oTxjer miwevda sazRvargareT siaruli. sxvaTa Soris, am institutma gacilebiT meti niWieri musikosi aRzarda, vidre konservatoriam. Semdeg iyo ansambli `adio~. pirvelad germaniis federaciul respublikaSi 1984 wels movxvdi. maxsovs, moskovSi sxvadasxva zomis dana-Canglisa da xelsaxocis xmarebasac ki gvaswavlidnen. Tavidanve vecade, kapitalisturi samyarodan is unar-Cvevebi ameRo, rac Semdeg aq bevrisTvis rTulad dasaZlevi aRmoCnda, gacilebiT adre gavige yvelaferi, risi gagebac mindoda da, albaT, es damexmara Semdeg germaniaSi arcTu ise martivi cxovrebis dros~. miuxedavad imisa, rom merab sanoZes qarTuli iumedobisa da dausrulebeli mo足lodinis wlebi ar gauvlia, Cavardnili dRevandelobis `gaTeTreba~ mainc dasWirda, am dros is germaniaSi cxovrobda da misTvis mTavari idea ocneba da kvlav miwaze dabruneba iyo. maSin man aseve pirvelad igrZno sakuTari Zala da `meore naxevari~... da maT gadawyvites keTili da warmatebuli cxovreba. pirveli mTlianad Sinagani moTxovnileba aRmoCnda, meore ki _ ZalisxmeviT misaRwevi.

`davqorwindi Tu ara, wavedi germaniaSi da mas Semdeg erTi dRe ar micxovria ojaxis gareSe, arc macxovros RmerTma. Tavidan Zalian gviWirda. me da Cemma meuRlem 9 Tve mxolod Caisa da purze gavatareT. me ki Cavjeqi da vmecadineobdi, Cems meuRles ki erTxelac ar dauwuwunebia, erTad gavdiodiT `riTmikas~, Cven vicodiT, rom raRac SegveZlo da gvqonda Sansi. dRes Tu vinmes SeuZlia, Tqvas, musikosi varo, mec Tamamad SemiZlia ganvacxado amis Sesaxeb.

eniT unda migvetana. ormocdaTerTmeti diski, Tqven iciT, es ras niSnavs? da am yvelafers patriarqi xelmZRvanelobda. marTla sagonebelSi var Cavardnili, radgan ar vici, amaze Rirebuls gavakeTeb Tu ara rames cxovrebaSi.

cxovrebis gamocdileba da RirebulebaTa Skala

musikosis garda, merab sanoZe iRbliani biznesmeni da `qalTmcodnec~ aRmoCnda. Tumca mxolod goneba da moqarguli ena ar kmara imisTvis, rom siyvaruli darCes... rCeba mxolod suli, nervi da energia, energia moTminebisa da patiebis... `Cems meuRles Zalian bevri ram dauTmia, rac dro gadis, miT ufro vrwmundebi amaSi. Tu romelimem ar daTmo, yvelaze sayvareli ojaxic ki daiSleba. ar arsebobs qali, romlis moxibvlac ar SeiZleba. mTavaria, mamakacs hqondes amis Sno. bevri nacnobi myavs, romelic qals siyvarulSi ver utydeba, uaris SiSis gamo. uars getyvis? kidev midi, mesamed midi. Tu uari gaSinebs, ese igi ar gyvarebia. yovelTvis mec ar gammarTlebia, magram ar movSvebivar da mainc mimiyvania saqme bolomde. iciT, Cems meuRles siyvaruli rogor avuxseni? TvalebSi miyure da mismine-meTqi, Zalian miyvarxar da minda erTi bude SevqmnaTmeTqi, erTi suli maqvs, Cems mklavze rodis daiZineb-meTqi... gaognebuli miyurebda. rodesac Cemi meuRle TbilisSi Camodioda da werils mwerda, erTi xe mqonda amorCeuli haidelbergSi, vijeqi marto da imis CrdilSi vkiTxulobdi. Tqven ar iciT, rogor surnels vgrZnobdi konvertis gaxsnisas da ramxela emocia iyo misi kiTxva. dRes ase aRar xdeba. ara, cudi ki ar aris, rom cxovreba aCqarda, RmerTma nu qnas, rom mis temps ver avyveT, magram is emocia gaqra.

`adixar, adixar da isev vardebi, Zalian iSviaTia, rom raRac xazs zeviT didxans darCe, musikaSic asea. magaliTad, maikl jeksoni xom popis mefea, magram axla Camovardnilia. cxovreba aCqarda, xalxs wignis kiTxvis, urTierTobis dro aRar aqvs. saSinelebaa, amas rom vambob, magram asea... adre Tu nebismieri saSualo SeZlebis ojaxi aT kacs stumrad miiRebda, dRes saxlSi vinmes iSviaTad patiJeben, xalxi Zalian daRlilia... rac ar unda didi msaxiobi, reJisori an musikosi iyo, Tu adamianad ar vargixar, kapikic ki ar aris Seni fasi. rodesac poziciurad isedac zemoT xar da kidev `zemodan uyureb~ vinmes, Zalian amazrzeni da autaneli xdebi. verafriT veguebi umadurobas. ai, es aris, rac Wkuidan mSlis, Tumca Cemi Tavic damiWeria msgavs saqcielSi da bodiSi momixdia. bodiSis moxda sircxvili ar aris. ubralod, amis Sno unda gqondes. arajansaRi ambicia damRupvelia, amitom uamravi adamianisTvis miTqvams: wadi, Svilo, sxva saqme gaakeTe, me Sen ar Cagwer-meTqi. Cemi simarTlis gamo bevrs ar vuyvarvar, gulSi boRmas ar videb, magram imdeni adamiani unda dakargo, ramdenic dasakargia. ver veguebi, rodesac vinmeze amboben _ cnobili, gamoCenili... iciT, cnobili da gamoCenili vin aris? vinc raRac Rirebuli datova. vinc Tavs raRaciT gvacnobs, is aris cnobadi... me cnobadi musikosi var. me ar minda prezidenti miyvardes an ar miyvardes, ar minda vicode, vin aris parlamentis Tavmjdomare, me minda miyvardes qali da Cemi saqme. mieciT adamianebs saqme, romelsac siyvaruliT gaakeTeben da yvelaferi dalagdeba.

`sano~ da misive saxelobis gabrendebuli studia

saharis udabnoSi napovni qarTuli aguri...

`qalTmcodne~ `sano~ da sayvareli qalis mier gamogzavnili werilebis surneli

`1992 wels wavedi da 2000-Si Camovedi. mivxvdi, rom potenciali aris da vifiqre, ar SeiZleba, am niWier xalxs ar hqondes iseTi Canawerebi, rogorc evropaSi aqvTmeTqi... Tqven ver moZebniT iseT adamians, vinc ityvis, `sano~ ar damexmarao. mTeli Cemi kapitali Cavde am saqmeSi. marTalia, neli biznesia, magram ar vnanob~. garda amisa, merab sanoZisTvis arsebobs proeqtebi, sadac biznesukugebas aranairi mniSvneloba ar aqvs. garedan mosuli aTasi iniciativis tyveobaSi mas raRac uxilavi Zala aucileblad gansaxorcielebel saqmeebs karnaxobs. `aris marTla iseTi proeqtebi, romliTac me da sxva kerZo studiebi fuls ver viSovniT, magram es udidesi saqmeebi unda gakeTdes. me ar vici, vefxistyaosnisa da bibliis Caweraze ufro dids cxovrebaSi ras unda SevWidebodi. am dros Sedga Cemi da batoni gogi xarabaZis tandemi. udidesi Sroma Caido, is idga studiaSi, rogorc scenaze, TeTri perangiT, TeTri TmebiT. marto wyali edga magidaze da saaTobiT muSaobda. 3 weli midioda bibliaze muSaoba. Cven xom es msmenelamde adamianuri

`qarTvelebs yvelaferi uceb gvinda, Tumca 20 weli ukve epoqaa da rTulia, yovelTvis raRacis Tavidan dawyeba. rodesac Sens garSemo bevri adamiani cudad aris, es saSinelebaa, am dros maT boRmis marcvali uCndebaT, magram me rodesac `melodiaSi~ pirvelad Sevedi, vTqvi: ra kargia, aseTs mec gavakeTeb-meTqi. ar vici, sadme amomikiTxavs Tu gamigia, magram bavSvobidan da studentobidan amas vambob: saharis udabnoSi rom Camagdo, iqac amovTxri da vipovni qarTul agurs, romelic yvela agurisgan gansxvavdeba msoflioSi-meTqi. ai, Tu yvela ase miudgeba Tavis saqmes, xom xvdebiT, ra moxdeba. xom warmoudgenelia? magram iqac vipovi qarTul agurs. me movrCi...~ man daasrula da aRarc me mqonda raime saTqmeli. ubralod, am adamianTan saubrisas erTi aRmoCena gavakeTe. ra Tqma unda, is cdilobda misi warmatebis misave cxovrebis wesTan gaigivebas da kargadac gaarTva Tavi, Tumca mTavari es ar aris. mTavaria, rom is ar miekuTvneba adamianTa iseT naturas, romelic cxovrebasTan oms waagebs...

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saCuqari kaxuri folkloris Tayvanismcemlebs

andro simaSvili folkloris saxelmwifo centrisa da kulturis saministros dafinansebiT, 85 wlis andro simaSvilis sidi-albomi gamovida. `visac qarTuli da kaxuri simRera uyvars, misTvis, siyvaruliT savse patrioti kacis albomi namdvili saCuqaria. diskSi Sesulia kaxuri folkloris sxvadasxva simRerebi,~- ambobs folkloris saxelmwifo centris direqtori _ giorgi uSikiSvili. rusTavelis Teatris mcire darbazSi, andro simaSvilis diskis prezentaciaze, misive koncerti gaimarTa. saocari siTboTi da siyvaruliT mReroda mxcovani lotbari Tavis gundTan

erTad. gundi alaverdis taZris mgaloblebisganaa dakompleqtebuli. saRamos, alaverdeli mitropoliti, meufe daviTic eswreboda. arTanel andro simaSvils arc ki axsovs, ra asakidan mReris. 13 wlis iyo, rodesad 1935 wels ZmasTan erTad, TelavSi konkursze gamovida. mas Semdeg sigelebis saTvalavi aeria. aqtiur pedagogiur cxovrebas miCveuli momRerali arTanadan TelavSi kviraSi ramdenjerme dadis. moswavleebs Zalian uyvarT. sami kviriT parizSic iyo, gogonaTa ansambl `irinolas~ da vaJTa ansambl `marans~ simReris kursebi Cautara. andro papac iq Searqves. `ar megona am koncertze aseTi mowoneba Tu eqneboda Cems gamosvlas. yelis simSralis gamo xma ameWra da cota vinerviule, magram xalxis ovaciebma da mxardaWeram Zala Semmata. me Cems moswavleebs qarTuli simReris siyvaruls vunergav. garda amisa, istorias, samSoblos siyvaruls, patriotizmsa da kacobas vaswavli~- gviTxra sayvarelma andro papam.

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levan berZeniSvilis hobi ukve didi xania kompiuteria. avtomatikisa da gamoTvliTi teqnikis fakultetis studen­ tobidan moyolebuli, pro­ gramirebiT seriozuladaa dainteresebuli. mTel dRes kompiuterTan atarebs, mniSvn­ eloba ara aqvs, saxlSia Tu par­ tiaSi. desktopze akropolisis parTeonis suraTia. monacemTa

bazebs adgens, informaciebs internetidan iRebs, mxatvrul literaturas kiTxulobs, au­ diowignebs, Zvel filmebs iwers da rogorc TviTon am­ bobs, `baTqa-buTqian~ seria­ lebs. `seriali _ `24 saaTi~, `baTqabuTqiani~ filmebis dargSi, msoflios Cempionad mimaCnia. 7 sezoni maqvs nanaxi da `foqsis~

saitze amerikaSi wyvilad gamosuli ori _ 23-24 seriac vnaxe. amerikaSi serialebs naklebad uyureben, magram `24 saaTze~ mijaWvulebi arian. ritmi SeigrZnoba, seriozuli samsaxiobo Sesruleba da siyalbis arc erTi wami ar aris. yalb paTetikas ver naxavT. mokled, jek baueri gadagvarCens!~ respublikeli forumebis aqtiuri wevric iyo. `forumebis wevroba dabali zneobrivi momzadebis gamo Sevwyvite. SeuZlebeli gaxda imis kiTxva,

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gaxarebulia... bolo eqvsi Tvis monakveTs Tu aviRebT, Cems sayva­ rel da mSobliur `pirvel arxs~, fesvebs davubrundi, romelSic fexi avidgi. is faqtic maxarebs, rom pro­ grama, romlis erT-erTi wamyavnic var, sakmaod reitin­ gulia. `samoTxis vaSlebze~ kritikuli azric mesmis da qeba-didebac. Wkviani xalxis rCevis gaTvaliswinebiT, amas gulgrilad viReb, Tumca, ra Tqma unda, maqvs Cemi azri. vecdebiT, seqtembridan qalebisTvis (radganac igi mainc maTTvisaa gankuTvnili) kidev ufro sain­ tereso iyos es proeqti.

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Tamar gongaZe rac xdeba Tbilisis forumebze. sakuTari Tavis lanRvas ver wavikiTav, mazoxisti ara var.~ raoden gasaocaric ar unda iyos, levan berZeniSvili amJamad emi uainhausiTaa gatacebuli da mis simRerebs usmens. `guli mwydeba _ did xans veRar movusmen. iseTi cxovrebis wesiT, rogoriTac is cxovrobs, did xans ver icocxlebs. momwons, rogorc Sesrulebis manera da xma, ise musikaluri ritmebis SerCeva. rogori epataJuric iyo `biTlzebi~ da `roling sTounzi~ 60-ian wlebSi, iseTivea dRes emi.~ rati durgliSvilis hobi sxvadasxva sain­ tereso nivTebis gamo­ gonebaa. bolos Wadra­ kis mozrdili SuSis magida gaakeTa, romelic sofelSi, axalgorSi da­ tova. `jer im magidaze Wadraki ar miTamaSia, imitom, rom dasamTavre­ belia. figurebi plastmasisaa da roca gadaaadgileb, saTi­ Taod inTeba. mindoda, fig­ urebic SuSis yofiliyo, ma­ gram magisTvis ver movicale. magida nawilobriv xeSic aris Casmuli. wamoReba SemeZlo, magram gadavifiqre. rom mov­ indomo aqac gavakeTeb, magram Cemi cudi Tvisebaa _ saqmis bolomde miyvana ar miyvars. simReris daweris dro­ sac ase var, nebisyofa ara maqvs da SemiZlia Sua gzaSi mivatovo. kidev ra­ Rac axali ramis gakeTe­ bas vapireb, magram ras, jer ar getyviT. isedac male SeityobT.~ qeTaTos saxelosno ara aqvs, misaRebSi ud­ gas molberti da xat­ avs. amisTvis saWiroa, saxlSi kargi saRebavebi aRmoaCndes da TviTon cud xasiaTze iyos. `rac ufro cudad xar, SeiZleba miT ufro kargi naxati gamogivides. Cem SemTxvevaSi asea. SeiZleba moSvebuli viyo, simReris Tavi ar mqondes da xatva am dros zusti Terapia iyos.~ aseT dros qeTaTo abstraqtul kompoziciebs xatavs. ZiriTaTad yviTeli, wiTeli, mwvane da lurji Warbobs. aqtiur ferebTan er­Tad past­ elis ferebs iyenebs.

`xSirad qalis portrets vxatav, sxvadasxva tipisas, xasiaTis mixedviT. ratomRac ufro advilad mexatineba, vidre mamakacis.~ anri joxaZis hobi re­ Jisorobaa. mas ekuTvnis Tavisi ori klipi _ ani siraZesTan duetis da `saaxalwlo simReris~. `es aris hobi, romelzec vgiJdebi da vTvli, rom Tavs kargad varTmev. CemTvis kargi gasarTo­ bia.~ anri sxvasac didi siamovnebiT gadauRebda klips. udiplomo re­ Jisori klipmeikerobaze Seyva­ rebulia. `bavSvobidan scena­ rebs vwer, filmis siuJetebi momifiqrebia, Tumca iseTi naglic ara var, rom filmis gadaRebaze vifiqro. sanam dedam ar gadamafiqrebina, re­ Jisoroba marTla seriozulad mindoda.~ axla guli wydeba, rom profesiuli ganaTleba ar miuRia, magram Tavisi Wiis gax­ arebas mainc axerxebs. `Cemi klipebis mimarT reJisorebs didi pre­ tenziebi ar gamouxat­ avT. modi, mTlad ma­ seTi Tavmdabalic nu viqnebiT. bevri qarTve­ li reJisoris klips marTla sjobs Cemi na­ muSevari. saqarTvelos masStabiT, ra done­ zec aris Cveni klipin­ dustria, vTvli, ase Tu ise standartebs vakmay­ ofileb. asiaTasebis Cayra ar Rirs, mTavaria klipi sayure­ beli iyos.~ danebis Segrovebis hobi anjelina jolis dedisgan ge­ netikurad gamohyva. dedis gardacvalebis Semdeg msax­ iobis koleqcia Zveli danebiT gamdidrda. mis koleq­ ciaSi dReisaTvis aTeu­ lobiT danaa. `11 wlis viqnebodi, dedam pirve­ lad dana rom mayidina. dResac maxsovs, rogori gansxvavebuli SegrZneba mqonda. momwonda danis Savi tari. im RamiT bali­ Sis qveS amovide da dav­ male.~ nikolas qeiji didi xania komiqsebis wignebs agrovebs. pirveli wigni, riTac koleqciis Segroveba daiwyo, supermenis komiqsi iyo. `mimaCnia, rom komiqsSi didi realoba devs. mxat­

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nawyenia... gulaxdilad getyviT, Zalian nawyeni da gulnat­ keni var telekompania `imedis~ xelmZRvanelobaze. dafiqrdnen da imedia mixvdebian, ratom var nawyeni. rodesac konfliqturi situacia ganviTarda Cemsa da konkretul pirovnebas Soris, yvelam daiWira pozicia _ vnaxoT, vin vis ajobebs! bolos Cemamde movida teqsti _ ninos am pirovnebam naZirlobaSi ajoba da ra vqnaTo. Tu meore xelmZRvaneli aseTi tipis sasargeblod wyvets sakiTxs, minda Tqveni meS­ veobiT vuTxra: cxovreba arc dRes dawyebula da arc xval damTavrdeba. yovelTvis gamoCndeba adamiani, romelic mas ajobebs naZirlobaSi.

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vari am xerxiT gadmoscems mTel Tavis ocnebebsa Tu bavS­ vobis fantaziebs. sulac ar

vTvli, rom komiqsi sabavSvo gasarTobia.~ qeiji yvelas ar aZlevs wignebis daTva­ lierebis nebas. Tojinebis Segrovebis hobi demi murs da joni deps `aR­ moaCndaT~. demi faifuris Tmakulula da abreSumis kabi­ an Tojinebs agrovebs, joni ki barbebs. am ukanasknels, ula­ mazesi `saTamaSo qalis~ Sesa­

Zenad, aranairi Tanxa ar enaneba. zogjer colic, vanesa paradic ki exmareba qmars koleqciis gamdidrebaSi. rac Seexeba demis, aseTma hobim mas Semdeg gaitaca, roca qmarma, eSton katCerma wablisferTmiani Tojina aCuqa. `eStonis saCuqarma imde-

nad momxibla, rom gadavwyvite Tojinebis Segroveba damewyo.~

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emocia ara aqvs... uemociod raimes gatareba Zalian miWirs. Tumca na­ klebad mZafri emocia Cems kritikaze maqvs, vaxerxeb amis ureaqciod miRebas. yvela adamiania da Tavisi azris gamoxatvis ufleba aqvs, Tundac ar movwonde Cemi gareg­ nobiT da xmis tembriT. arian wamyvanebi, romlebsac mec ver vuyureb, im martivi mizezis gamo, rom ar SemiZlia am adamianebis xmis mosmena. aq dasamali araferia. ase Sei­ Zleba Cemzec fiqrobdnen. amitomac vatareb SedarebiT uemociod. ise, naturiT Zalian emociuri adamiani var da uemociobas ver vaxerxeb. ver viswavle.

amerikeli morbenali zazuna _ guriCa Tamar gongaZe guriCa, igive daTo xaburzania, ukve erTi welia, rac amerikuli ritmiT cxovrobs da misi dilac 6 saaTze iwyeba. amerikeli megobrebi deivid qeis (inglisurad misi gvaris pirveli aso) eZaxian. qarTuli sizarmacis miuxedavad, yavis WiqiT da saqmiani gamometyvelebiT quCis rutinis legaluri nawilia. magram qarTveli risi qarTvelia, dadgenil grafiks bolomde daeqvemdebaros. amerikuli ocneba filadelfiaSi cxovrebam optimizmi Semata da momavlis perspeqtiva dausaxa. am zafxuls los-anjelesSi apirebs gamgzavrebas. xumrobs, gastrolebzeo. Tumca ra dros xumrobaa, ramdenime weliwadi amerikaSi darCenas apirebs. magistraturaSi grafikuli dizaini da reklama unda Seiswavlos. mis samomavlo perspeqtivaSi xatva da gamofenebis mowyobac Sedis. `minda niu-iorkSi seriozul kompaniaSi vimuSao, gadaviRo reklama, `reklamSikoba~ Cemi ocnebaa. vswavlob aqaur sareklamo bazars, imitom, rom aq reklamis kultura maRalia. banalurad JRers, magram me aqedan gacilebiT mets gavukeTeb saqarTvelos, vidre mand yofniT. kargs gavukeTeb axloblebs da megobrebs da ara imaT, vinc ar imsaxurebs.~ Casvlis dRidan wers wigns `mwvane baraTi~, romelSic aR-

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wers yvela im saintereso niuanss, rac amerikaSi gadaxdeba. bruklinuri `razborkebi~ istoria banaluria. 27 wlis xelovani biWi adga da okeanis gaRma

Tavisuflebisa da caTambrjenebis qveyanas miaSura. Tumca es ar iyo pirvelad amerikaSi Casvla. daTos skolis bolo klasi oklahomaSi aqvs damTavrebuli. Tavs ucxod ar grZnobs da albaT amitomac konkretuli misiiT ar Casula. jer axlobels estumra, mere arsebobisTvis brZolas Seudga. `Tavs aq ufro kargad vgrZnob da miuxedavad imisa, rom arafers ar warmovadgen, martivia CemTvis komunikacia. Camovedi amerikis aRmosavleT sanapiroze, sadac migraciis maCvenebeli yvelaze maRalia. emigrantebis

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cxovrebiT daintersebuli legaluri emigranti gaxlavarT. rac ki amerikaSi mcxovreb qarTvelebze giJuri istoriebi gsmeniaT, yvelaferi am mxareSi xdeba. gadmocemiT vici, rogorc zemo naxalovkelebi _ qvemo naxalovkelebTan, iseT `razborkebSi~ arian bruklinSi emigranti qarTvelebi. me veridebi aseT qarTvelebs da iseT TanamemamuleebTan urTierTobas, romlebic qarTul tradiciebs Rirseulad da gadaumlaSeblad aziareben amerikelebs. liberTi beli _ Tavisuflebis gabzaruli zari, amerikis istoriis da siZlieris simboloa da igi amerikis pirvel dedaqalaqSi, filadelfiaSia. zari saaTSi erTxel irekeba. erTxel, diliT mivdivar quCaSi, meore mxares modis qali, romelic aSkarad post sabWoTa `warmoebisaa~, Cveneburia. uceb zari daireka, da Tu gamoicnobT am qalma ra gaakeTa! pirjvari gadaiwera! sicilisgan yavis Wiqa xelidan gamivarda, gavigude. ver gavCerdi, mainteresebda, marTla qarTveli iyo Tu ara da am qals Svidi kvartali vdie, sanam meore Cveneburs ar Sexvda da miesalma _ mayvala, gamarjobao...~ `dakument, sluSi...~ eqsperimentebis da Tavgadasavlebis maZiebeli guriCa patara, wynar sareklamo kompaniaSi mivida da Svidi Tve imuSava. `fotoSopi, dizaini, gare reklama _ faqtobrivad Cemi kuTxiT vmuSaobdi. kompiuteris gareSe aba rogor vicocxleb. Tumca, anazRaurebis simciris gamo, paralelurad sxvagan muSaoba damWirda. daviwye saaTSi 10 dolariT, anu saarsebod vmuSaobdi.~ am drois ganmavlobaSi niu- iorkSi gadasvlazec ifiqra, sadac perspeqtiuli da maRalanazRaurebadi samsaxuris Sovnis meti Sansi eguleboda. magram zamTarma da wvril-wvrilma Semaferxebelma faqtorebma Seayovna. `saemigraciodan velodebi samuSao uflebas, anu socialur dokuments. es dokumenti gaZlevs saSualebas, maRalanazRaurebad samsaxurSi daiwyo muSaoba. a d r e amerikis federaluri biuros erT-

erT proeqtze vmuSaobdi. marTalia, saqarTveloSi, magram es mniSvnelovani faqtoria. profesiiT iuristi var da advokatis gareSe Sevudeqi am dokumentis gakeTebas, magram aRmoCnda, rom aqac didi biurokratiaa. mokled, gaviWede. ra unda meqna? an isev sareklamo studiaSi unda memuSava an adgilobriv televiziaSi, sadac gasaubrebaze miTxres, rom erT TveSi damxmare prodiuserad amiyvandnen, Tu saWiro oficialuri dokumenti aRmomaCndeboda. mokled, es samsaxuric davkarge.~ picis damtarebeli guriCasTvis ukve mniSveloba

ar hqonda, ra samsaxurSi moewyoboda. aiCema, picas vatareb, manqana myavs da fuls gavakeTebo. `qarTuli terminiT rom vTqva, picis datarebis servisze magari fuli iWreba. picas qarTvelebi akeTeben. nulidan daiwyes da dReisaTvis kargi dasavluri standartebis piceria aqvT. rom naxoT, ver ityviT, rom post sabWoTa adamianis gakeTebuli piceriaa. mokled, Zalian magari gamocdilebaa, Tan sainteresoa. im 30 wamian urTierTobaSi _ inebeT Tqveni pica, ai Ceki _ bevrs swavlob, bevr informacias iReb. amerikuli `truxa~ Rimili TavisTavad dagTamaSebs saxeze. erTi kvira gavqaCe, mere me da Cemi manqana

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aRSfoTebulia...

xalisiania...

yvelaze metad CemTvis aRmaSfoTebeli adamia­ nis umadurobaa. Tumca, rodesac RmerTi adamians aCenda, amasac iTvaliswinebda. adamiani bolomde madlieri arasdros aris imisi, rom man `uzarma­ zar latareaSi~ moigo is, rom dadis, cxovrobs da arsebobs. es gamarTlebaa, oRond unda mixvde, rom gagimarTla da gaCndi Sen, da ara sxva. milioni sxva SeiZleboda yofiliyo Sens adgilas. umaduroba da­ mangrevelia, Tan es qarTvelebs gvaxasiaTebs... aman SeiZleba loginadac Camagdos. ramdenjerme Seve­ jaxe da mZimed gadavitane. eklesiam gadamatanina.

maxalisebs sami ojaxis wevri: ori SviliSvili _ 4 wlis qalbatoni nuca da 2 wlis reziko da ZaRli lab­ radori, saxelad `sani~. `sani~ gvarad zautaSvilia, Cems gvarze myavs gaformebuli. nucam CamomaTvlevina, ojaxSi vin ra gvaria. me zautaSvili var, is TavarTq­ ilaZea, is kikabiZea... `sani~ ra gvariao? rogorc ki gaigo, rom `sani~ zautaSvilia, maSinve miiRo gadaw­ yvetileba, rom TviTonac zautaSvili gamxdariyo... Zalian maxalisebs samyaros aRqma sruliad axali _ be­ biis TvaliT.

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daveciT, Tumca im periodSi Cem wignSi bevri gverdi daiwera. bavSvobidan vakvirdebi tipaJebs, saxeebs, bevrs, rogorc `multiaSkas~ ise aRviqvam. amerikaSi am mxriv mravalferovnebaa, ver moiwyen.~ normanis sibrZne... mere hqonda usaqmurobis periodi, sanam moxucis movlis gadawyvetileba ar miiRo. `aq utydebaT qarTvelebs imis Tqma, rom moxucs uvlian. aranairad ar aris gasatexi. Cemi 87 wlis normani davrdomili ar aris, ubralod, damlaparakebeli da damxmare sWirdeba. magari pirovnebaa. etyoba, rom brZeni kacia. xSirad vfiqrob, mis asakamde rom mival, mere ra iqneba-meTqi. sxvanairad vuyureb yvelafers. mas dRis meore naxevarSi vuvli.~ jemaloba niu-iorkSi niu-iorkSi kargi qarTuli restornebi Segxvdeba, magram guriCa erTxelac ar dainteresebula iq SesvliT. aseTi argumenti aqvs: `niu-iorkSi ar minda jemalobis, Caxutebis da alaverdebis pontSi gaviCiTo.~ xSirad seirnobs vaSingtonis parkSi. zogjer maradiuli cecxlidan sigaretis qarTulad mokideba undeba xolme. `rutina aqac aris, magram aq `praimtaimic~ sainteresoa da `taimautic~. amerikaSi morbenali zazuna xar, romelic borblis wreze ki ar darbis, aramed win midis.~ marTalia, aseT talRazea, magram mainc enatreba misi `gruzinebi.~ `yvelaze metad mainc is momenti menatreba _ SuqniSanze gaCerebuli mezobeli manqanidan ded-mama da ukana savarZlidan wamoSlili, gaRimebuli saxeebiT fanjaras momxtari oTxi bavSvi. yvelas didi siTboTi vuTvli mokiTxvas. es adamianebi marTla menatreba. inga grigolia momikiTxeT, romelic yovelTvis kritikis qarcecxlSia, imitom rom ingaa. mas ofra uinfris vadareb Tavisi siZlieriT, oRond ofra banZia.~ zangi rZali ra romantika, _ amerikaSi varo, gaaprotesta. amerikeli qalebi aqo _ ras erCi, mSvenierebi ariano. `dedas CarTuli aqvs `reJimi~, Svilo, droa coli moiyvanoo. ar minda viCqaro. jer ar mcalia, cota sxvagan var. vuTxari, zangi rZali rom Semogivides ojaxSi, ras ityvi-meTqi. iyo 30 wamiani pauza, ho deda, ixumre, ixumreo, bolos miTxra. orkviriani uTierToba mqonia momulato, daaxloebiT vernilakis haS 10-is feris qeiTTan. xangrZlivi urTierTobebisTvis marTla ar mcxela. didi gegmebi maqvs, didi.~

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SeSinebulia... SemaSina iman, rodesac mivxvdi, rom SeiZleboda situacia daZabuliyo da sruliad umarTav pro­ cesebSi gadazrdiliyo. Zalian realuri safrTxis winaSe videqiT. agvistos movlenebis dros Cvensken rusis jari rom daiZra, ar SemSinebia. mzad viyavi, ucxo mtrisgan Svilebis dasacavad sakuTari si­ cocxle gameRo. magram ori kviris win, Cems qalaq­ Si, Cems sayvarel adamianebs Soris rac SeiZleboda datrialebuliyo, mxolod ubedurebisken waiyvan­ da yvelafers. milioni ramaa gasaTvaliswinebeli, oRond arc erT SemTxvevaSi iaraRis eniT. is, rac gaviareT, aRar unda ganmeordes. orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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eqimbaSis morigi msxverpli, bas-gitaristi daviT berulava, sikvdils respublikurSi ebrZvis erTi doza gamxmari gaurkveveli warmomavlobis futkrisebri mweri, askilis nayeni da... badiaureli valikos `uebari~ wamalic mzadaa. miiReba prostatis, uSvilobisa da Sardsasqeso daavadebebis dros. mohyveba instruqcia, ai, aseTi:

Tamar gorTamaSvili valikos gamxmari `futkrebi~ 5-jer unda miiRo da Sedegad SesaZloa, Tavi reanimaciaSi amoyo, iseve, rogorc `modern jaz bendis~ bas-gitaristma, 52 wlis daviT berulavam, romelic Zlieri intoqsikaciis gamo amwuTas respublikur saavadmyofoSi sikvdils ebrZvis. man saSarde milis samkurnalod saxelganTqmul valikos TebervalSi mimarTa, Tumca wamlis miReba maisSi daiwyo, radgan valikos eleqsiri Turme siTboSi unda dailios. daviT berulava wamlis me-5 miRebis Semdeg ugono mdgomareobaSi reanimaciaSi aRmoCnda. eqimebi mis ojaxs saimedos jer verafers eub-

nebian. misma meuRlem icis, rom daviTs gadarCenis mcire Sansi aqvs. eqimebi mas 44%-ian garantias aZleven, danarCeni gardauvali sikvdilia. meuRle qeTevan berulava badiaureli valikos winaaRmdeg sarCelis Setanas apirebs, miuxedavad imisa, gadarCeba Tu ara misi meuRle. qeTevan berulava: _ eg kaci aris mkvleli... aucileblad viCivleb, ra dReSi Cagvagdo. ras vifiqrebdiT, rom misi es wamali aseT reaqcias gamoiwvevda, arc is uTqvams, rom SesaZloa, ukuCveneba hqonoda. _ vin girCiaT, ratom mimar­ TeT mas? _ Cemi me­ uRle 7 w l i s win­ aT

avtoavariaSi moyva. mas Semdeg awuxebs saSarde mili. verafriT rom ver moirCina, misma megobarma urCia, badiaureli valikosTvis mieqeTevan berulava marTa... C a ­v e d i T badiaurSi, winaswar SeTanxmebuli viyaviT, eqoskopia unda gagvekeTebina, rom TirkmelSi kenWi ar hqonda. Cvenc gavakeTeT eqoskopia da mivutaneT... wamlis miRebisas tkivilebi aReniSneboda, Tumca, roca valikos vurekavdiT da veubnebodiT, gvpasuxobda: piriqiT, kargia, e.i. wamali moqmedebso. me-5 miRebis Semdeg Cemma meuRlem goneba dakarga da varT axla aq. ar vici, gadarCeba Tu ara... gaTiSuli aqvs Tirkmelebi, sasunTqi organoebi... mTlianad gasiebulia... saimedos jer verafers vigeb. levan suxiSvili, eqimi-re­ animatologi: _ pacienti berulava Cven-

Tan wevs, aqvs Tirkmelis mwvave ukmarisoba, rac, sa­ varaudod, ga­mowveulia intoqsikaciiT, Zalian mZime mdgomareob­a­Sia, Zalian mZi­me. _ rogorc gviTxres, 44%-ia gadarCenis. _ diax, asea... daviT be­ r u l a v a s mdgoma­reoba ramdenime dRe­Si kidev ufro gauar­ levan esda... avadm­ suxiSvili yofi damZimda... qeTevan be­rulavas meuRlis mkurnaloba ukve 14 aTasi lari daujda, Tumca axalgazrda qali amas ar Civis, misTvis axla mTavari qmris gadarCenaa, mere ki badiaurel valikos `mixedavs~. sanam qeTevan berulava valiko eqims `moikiTxavs~, `praimtaimis~ jgufi badiaurSi Cadis. valiko agulaSvilis migneba Zneli ar yofila, mas am mxareSi yvela icnobs. eqimbaSi adgilze dagvxvda... ver vityviT, rom Jurnalistebis danaxva ar esiamovna, Tavis wamals reklamac gaukeTa da `saswaulmoqmedi~ mwerebis er­ Ti doza sa­ x ­s o v r a d a c gamogvatana. valiko agulaSvi­ li: _ ra vici, aRarc ki ma­ xsovs, imde­ valiko ni agulaSvili: xania Cveni oj­ axi am wamals akeTebs. ma­ ma-papidan m o ­m d e v s . . . vinc ki m o ­s u l a , y v e ­l a s Svelis, me jer ukma­ yofilo ar­avin mi­n­ axavs... zafxulobiT ga­vdivar alaznis velze da vagroveb am futkrebs. ra jiSia, ar vici, ki Svelis da...

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_ rogorc viciT, fut­ krebTan erTad mcenareebsac ag­rovebT? _ hoo, mcenareebsac... _ ra mce­nareebs urevT wa­ malSi? _ ra vici, is mcenareebia, razec es futkrebi sxdebian. ai, is unda mowyvito, romelzec zis es futkari, TviTon arCeven isini yvavilebs... magram xan aris, rom gvivardeba sezoni, ar arian xolme. notio amindi sWirdeba, Tu ara da, xan aris xolme, rom TveobiT ara maqvs wamali. _ licenzia Tu gaqvT? _ araa. mindoda aReba, magram ar momces, ver gaiges, ra jiSis futkari iyo, mere kidev fuli momTxoves da ra vici... 2001 wels mindoda gamomeSva afTiaqebSi, magram ar momces ufleba. samedicino institutSi miTxres, unda gamovikvlioTo... _ mere gamoikvlies? _ ra vici, Cavedi TbilisSi, davjeqiT puric SevWameT, magram ra vici, ra moxda... fuli undoda, ra... `puris WamiT~ rom ar gvardeba aseTi seriozuli saqme­ ebi, albaT, kaxel valikos ar­ avin uTxra... manac guli ar ga­itexa da biznesi gaagrZela, Tanac arcTu warumatebeli. Tqven rom genaxaT is Jurnali, sadac eqimbaSi pacientebs aRricxavda, mixvdebodiT, rom badiaurel valikos sakmaod Semosavliani biznesi aqvs. masTan mkurnalobis erTi kursi 80 lari Rirs, mis `JurnalSi~ ki, damerwmuneT, marto ianvridan moyolebuli, ramdenime aseuli adamiania moxvedrili... maT Soris daviT berulavac, romelic valikom Zlivs gaixsena. mere, roca misi ambavi movuyeviT, TviTon gaxda `SeuZlod~. eqimbaSi SeSinda, magram Cven mier dasmul yvela kiTxvas upasuxa: _ iciT, Tqvenma wamalma erT-erTi Tqveni pacienti la­ mis mokla, axla is reanimaci­ aSi wevs. _ marTla? ras ambob, ar vicodi, eg ra miTxari... _ diax, SeiZleba verc ga­ darCes... _ rom ar daurekiaT CemTan?

_ me vici, rom misma meuRlem avadmyofodanac migzavnian, dagirekaT da giTxraT, ra ro­­ca TviTon ver Svelian, da situaciac aqvT. `aramiancidanac~... _ ar vici. eg ra miTxari, da_ SegiZliaT, is eqimebi vurekav aucileblad.... dagvisaxeloT, vinc Tqven pa­ _ ese igi, Tqven ambobT, rom cientebs gigzavniT? Tqveni pacientebidan pre­ _ rogor ara, `aramianctenzia aravis hqonia da aseTi Si~ muSaobs merab mSvildaZe, Sedegi arasodes migiRiaT? damirekavs xolme: valiko, aseT _ ara, yvelafers geficebiT, da aseT pacients gigzavnio... ara, Tu moxvedrilan saavadvaliko agulaSvilis mier myofoSi, marto gadasxmebze da dasaxelebul eqims Cven marTmorCa. ase icis am wamalma, zogs lac `aramiancis~ saavadmyof­ sWirdeba gadasxma da mere gadis oSi mivageniT. 60 wlis akaorganizmidan, sul 3 dRe rCeba demikosma merab mSvildaZem ar organizmSi, mere gadis. uaryo, rom valikos icnobs da, _ axla ras apirebT? ase vTqvaT, pacientebis `urT_ davurekav aucileblad. ierTgacvla~ aqvT, Tumca rom Tu saWiroa, davexmarebi, riTic vuTxariT, rac xdeboda, mSSemiZlia. vildaZem umalve dagmo eqeqimbaSi valiko Cvenma informaciam aSkarad SeaSina, Cven ki gaognebuli viyaviT imiT, rac vnaxeT da simarTle rom vTqvaT, rogor SeiZleba adamianma gamxmari mwerebisgan dayenebuli nayeni dalio, miT umetes, ici, rom is Sxamiania... amis Sesaxeb valikosac vkiTxeT, imiTac davinteresdiT, sad avrcelebs is am wamals. _ Cemi wamali sazRvargareTac miaqvT, espaneTSic gamigzavnia. sabWoTa kavSiris qveynebidan da Tbilisidanac bevri Camodis, CemTan agzavnian. _ vin agzav­ daviT beru nis? lava _ ra vici, respublikuri sa­ imbaSebi. merab mSvildaZe: _ ki, vicnob. _ rogor pacientebs ug­ zavniT xolme? _ prostatianebs. _ Sedegi Tu iciT, rogori aqvs mis wa­ mals? _ Soreuli Sedegi ar vici, magram pacientebi kmay-

ofilebi arian. _ ramdeni xania, rac am adamianTan urTierTobT? _ albaT, 7-8 weli iqneba. _ da ukmayo­ filo aravin yo­ fila? _ valikosgan movida pacienti, zomebi avuReT, gavugzavneT valikos da is ukan pretenziiT ar mobrunebula. _ is gigzavniT pacientebs, Tu Tqven ugzavniT? _ urTierTgacvla-gamocvla, pacientebi TviTon modian da ician, valikosTan rom midian, unda aiRon prostatis zomebi, ise valiko pacientebs ar iRebs. isini modian da meubnebian, badiaurSi mivdivaro da me ra ufle-

ba maqvs, avukrZalo? vurCev Tu ara wasvlas, es individualuri gadasawyvetia. avadmyofs aqvs imis rwmena, rom unda wavides badiaurSi, imas ver dauSli. _ Tqven uwevT rekomenda­ cias pacientebs, rom wavidnen badiaurSi? _ araa, amxela urologiis institutia aq da me pacientebs rogor gavuSveb badiaurSi?.. _ valikom gviTxra, rom Tqven uSvebT pacientebs mas­ Tan, urekavT winaswar da ise. _ ara, modis pacienti da unda iq wasvla, vurekav da... me rom urologiis institutze uari vTqva, aseTi raRac araa. aq arian amdeni profesorebi da sxvagan gavuSveb? sxvaTa Soris, batoni merabisTvis ucnobi iyo, rom valiko agulaSvili licenziis gareSe mkurnalobs. gviTxra, rom ram-

denime wlis win­ aT valiko licenziaze `CaliCobda~, magram miiRo Tu ara, ar icis. merab mSvildaZes valikos wamalic Cven vaCveneT. is ki Tqva, `monadire kaci var da vici, es mweri Sxamianiao~... rogorc TviTon valikom gviTxra, prostata da uSviloba yvelaze gavrcelebuli daavadebaa da is amas gamxmari, gaurkveveli warmomavlobis `futkrebiT~ kurnavs... erTi ki faqtia, valiko agulaSvils, romelsac am meTodiT mkurnalobis 27-wliani gamocdileba aqvs, berulavebis ojaxisgan didi usiamovneba elis. es, albaT, sxva pacientebisTvisac magaliTi iqneba.

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Tu Tqven gawuxebT nebismieri saxis riniti, cxviriT sunTqvis problema, sinusiti (haimoriti, frontiti). sezonurad gawuxebT alergiuli surdo, cxviris Zgi­ dis gamrudeba, yelisa da yuris nebismieri saxis daa­ vadeba (Cirqovani glandebi, adenoidebi, polipebi, smenis daqveiTeba, gogirdis sacobi, nevriti...), Tu Tqveni bavSvi Sewuxebulia gamonadeniT... yel-yur-cxviris klinakaSi, medicinis mecnierebaTa doq­ tori, profesori otolaringologi, gagiwevT ufaso kon­ sultacias. konsultaciaze Cawera xdeba winaswar. telefonis nomeri: (995 32) 31 10 44

jer kidev maSin, roca `maestroSi~ politikuri Toq-Souebis gakeTebis idea gaCnda, ramdenime Jurnalistma Tavisi pozicia daafiqsira: Tu arxze Savi fuli (anu gaurkveveli warmoSobis fuli) Caideba, Cven arxs davtovebTo... gadis dros da arxs aleko elisaSvili tovebs. maSin ramdenime politikosi saxeldeboda, visi fulic SeiZleboda arxis gacocxlebaSi Cadebuliyo. iyo Tu ara finansebi elisaSvilis mier `maestros~ datovebis mizezi? Tavad Jurnalisti acxadebs rom finansebs masTan kavSiri ara aqvs. _ ar SeiZleboda marTlac or televiziaSi erTdoulad muSaoba. es Zalian damRleli iyo da avirCie `kavkasia~. aq or proeqtze vmuSaob, romelic male gava eTerSi. finansebi arafer SuaSia. mainc Zneli dasajerebelia. ratom SeiZleba daetovebina `maestro~ elisaSvils?! rogorc Tavad ambobs, am arxSi man mTeli Tavisi energia da mondomeba Cado. aleko irwmuneba rom is `kavkasiaze~ axal gadacemebs akeTebs da amitomac mouwia maestros datoveba. Tumca, jer am gadacemebis bedic ucnobia: _ movlenebis ganviTarebis Semdeg, gadawydeba gadacemebi gazafxulidanve daiwyeba Tu seqtembrisTvis ga­daideba. orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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cnobili 2 metriani tilos `meCaie qalis~ naturac naira xeliZea

avTo CitiZe Tbilisis 62-e skolis moswavleebSi xSirad gaigebT frazas _ me qarTlis deda maswavlis! es bavSvuri fantaziis nayofi sulac ar aris. am skolaSi ukve 47 welia, inglisurs aswavlis qali, romelic qarTlis dedis formaSi ufro adre gamoCnda sazogadoebaSi, vidre Tavad qandakeba daidgmeboda. mas Semdeg, naira xeliZem, mTeli sabWoTa kavSiri Semoiara xmliTa da TasiT xelSi. Tanamedrove enaze rom vTqvaT, qarTlis dedis piariT iyo dakavebuli da mis cocxal asls warmoadgenda, rodesac qarTuli delegacia sabWoTa respublikebSi midioda. `1957 wels ucxo enebis institutis mesame kursze viyavi, rodesac gamomiZa­ xes da miTxres, paradze is qandakeba unda ganasaxie­

`me qarTlis deda maswavlis!~ ro, romelic male daidgmeba TbilisSio. Camacves TeTri grZeli kaba, damaxures grZe­ li fata, damaWerines xelSi xmali da Tasi, manqanaze orme­ triani piedestali dadges da zed damayenes. mTeli Tbilisi aRfrTovanebuli iyo. maSin albaT veravin ifiqrebda, rom elguja amaSukelis `qarTli deda~, romelic me ganvasax­ iere, male qalaqis simbolod iqceoda. ramdenime kviraSi qarTlis dedis qandakeba botanikur baRSi dadges, me ki sabWoTa kavSiris masSta­ biT, qarTul delegaciebTan erTad, `qarTlis dedis~ for­ miT davdiodi. mTeli koncer­ tis ganmavlobaSi scenaze xm­

liTa da TasiT miwevda xolme dogma.~ naira xeliZe simaRlis gamo yovelTvis gamoirCeoda. simaRliT 180 sm-ia suxiSvilebis ansamblSi erT-erT solitad cekvavda, magram mkacri mama sazRvargareT ar uSvebda gastroelbze da male CamoSorda cekvas. samagierod, qmarma mas sruli Tavisufleba misca da _`qarTlis dedad~ mTeli msoflio moiara. axla biznesmeni Svilis wyalobiT ikmayofilebs mogzaurobis wyurvils. qalbatoni naira mxatvar korneli sanaZis muza da misi naturisti gaxda. mxatvarma Tavisi muza borjomSi das-

venebisas aRmoaCina. cnobili 2 metriani tilos `meCaie qalis~ naturac naira xeliZea. es naxati saxelmwifo muzeumSia gamofenili. meCaie qali ise daxata, rom nairam Cais krefa saerTod ar icoda. samagierod, yvela meCaiem kargad icoda es naxati. mocekvaves da `qarTlis dedis~ oreuls yovelTvis bevri Tayvanismcemeli hyavda. sabolood ki arCevani Tavis mezobelze gaakeTa. `sanam colad gavyvebodi, 9 weli miyvarda. Zalian ganebivrebuli qali viyavi. qmarma yvelaferi gaakeTa imisTvis, rom Tavi bednierad megrZno. 50 wlis asakSi gardaicvala da rom

ara es faqti, vityodi, rom Cemze bednieri qali ar ar­ sebobs.~ 47 wliani pedagogobis manZilze qalbatonma nairam ramdenime Taoba aRzarda. xumrobiT ambobs kidec, saburTaloze Znelad Tu moiZebneba vinme, romlisTvisac ar miswavlebiao. skolas 74 wlis asakSic ver eleva. `am 47 wlis manZilze ar maxsovs moswavle, rom ar vyvarebodi. gakveTilis miRma me maTi megobari var, kalaTburTic ki miTamaSia biWebTan. gakveTili ki Cem­ Tvis xelSeuxebeli ramaa. erT weliwadSi Cems sadam­ rigeblo klasTan erTad 24 eqskursiaze viyavi. ori­ ansac ki siyvaruliT vwer. CemTan arasdros mosula ukmayofilo mSobeli. mom­ Txovni var, magram yvela bavSvis mesaidumlec.~

elitaruli cxenebi Tornike yajriSvili 1840 wels Tbilisis ipodromi didubis teritoriaze aaSenes. 1945 wels ipodromi mWidrod dasaxlebuli raionis centrSi moqceula da axali ipodromisTvis teritoria veris xeobasa da delisis dasaxlebas Soris SeirCa. evropuli standartebiT, ipodromi dasaxlebuli punqtidan moSorebiT unda iyos. gasawvrTnelad axalgazrda cxenebs siwynare da mSvidi garemo sWirdebaT. amitom, ori wlis win, kerZo mepatroneebma lisis tbasTan axali, evropuli standartebis ipodromi aaSenes da TavianTi cxenebic iq gadaiyvanes. axal ipodromze xuTi Tavlaa. TavlebSi 200mde cxenia.

patriarqis cxeni amini

saaTamde iq sportul cxenebs mxedrebi avarjiSeben. 11 saaTidan ki ipodromze mxolod moseirne wyvilebs da sabavSvo etlian qalebs naxavT. sportuli cxenis Senaxva mepatrones TveSi daaxloebiT 1000 lari ujdeba. dReSi orjer ­cxen­ebs vete­r­­inari sinjavs. saqarTveloSi sportis es saxeoba arapopularulia. evropaSi cxenebs kargad uvlian da normaluri cxeni sami-oTxi milionic Rirs. CvenTan gansakuTrebuli moTxovna ar aris da misi gasayidi fasi xuTiaTas lars ar aRemateba. ipodromis direqtori mecxeneobis dargSi, mxedari zaza CitrekaS­ vili: `rac cxenis sajiriTo skola ga­vxseniT, jiriTiT axalgazrdebic da­ interesdnen. roca cxenze zixar, erTi mTliani sxe­ uli xdebi. xSiria SemTxvea, ro­ ca cxeni da mxedari ver ugeben erTmaneTs, am dros mxedarma sxva cxenis gaxednva unda daiwyos.~

ipodromze

180 _ kerZo mepatronisaa, aTi cxeni _ Sinagan saqmeTa saministros sapatrulo policiis. yvela maTgani inglisuri da arabuli jiSis aris. mamuka xazaraZes oTxi cxeni hyavs _ sami inglisuri da erTi naxevrad germanuli. arc erTi maTgani SejibrebebSi monawileobas ar iRebs. xazaraZe yovel SabaT-kviras amodis lisis tbaze da jiriTobs. aq bevr cnobil adamiansac naxavT mojiriTes. oficialuri Sexvedrebisa da gadatvirTuli grafikis Semdeg jiriTi _ gantvirTvis saukeTeso saSualebaa. aqvea mamuka xazaraZis mier patriarqisTvis naCuqari TeTri raSi _ amini. is oTxi wlisaa da sxva cxenebisgan gansxvavebiT, adamianebTan urTierTobas ar gaurbis. yvelaze asakovani cxeni am TavlaSi 19 wlisaa. saburTalos ipodromze 18 sportuli da rva saswavlo cxenia. 8-dan 10

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maradonas avtobiografiuli wigni

me var daTo turaSvilis eqskluzivi

gagrZeleba oTxTviani mosamzadebeli periodi mar del platas sazafxulo turneTi davasruleT, sadac “bokas” davemSvidobe da nakrebTan erTad espaneTSi Cavedi msoflio Cempionatze saTamaSod, ufro sworad ki Tasis mosagebad. oRond erTi detali ki dagvaviwyda _ imisTvis rom moigo, jer unda iTamaSo. Cven ki maSin vifiqreT rom radgan samocdaTvrametSi movigeT da samocdacxrametSi kidev ufro magrad viTamaSeT, axla amis gakeTeba kidev ufro advili iqneboda CvenTvis. Tumca ar vifiqreT mTavarze da Cemi Rrma rwmeniT mTavari mizezi Cveni maSindeli warumateblobisa, iyo araswori fizikuri momzadeba. mxolod yoveldRiuri zedmeti sirbili sruliad ar iyo sakmarisi Cemi fizikuri ganviTarebisTvis, iseve rogorc sxvebisTvis da es iyo Cveni mwvrTnelebis yvelaze didi Secdoma maSin. amitomac espaneTis msoflio Cempionatze Cavedi Zalian daRlili gadaWarbebuli sirbilisagan da zedmeti varjiSebisagan ki ubralod mkvdari. arada Zalian mindoda rom Cemi pirveli msoflio CempionatisaTvis Zalian momzadebuli vyofiliyavi da amisTvis oTxi Tve mqonda _ “bokaSi” bolo oficialuri TamaSidan Cems debiutamde espaneTis msoflio Cempionatze. maxsovs rogor vocnebobdi did warmatebaze Cems megobar beto barbasTan erTad da menotic mTeli im oTxi Tvis manZilze mpirdeboda rom gamonaklisis saxiT nebas darTavda dedaCems da klaudias rom CvenTan erTad wamosuliyvnen. mere ki yvelaferi kraxiT dasrulda. is ki marTalia rom im periodSi sruli koncentracia SeuZlebeli iyo da me ar vambob rom me yvelaferi gavakeTe gamarjvebisTvis da sxvebma – ara. Cven yvelam erTad davkargeT Sansi radgan ver movaxerxeT mobilizacia. espaneTSi Cveni nakrebis baza iyo alikantesTan, saocar adgilas da Cven Tavidanve darwmunebulebi viyaviT imaSi rom saukeTeso gundi gvyavda, Tumca jer TamaSi ar gvqonda Catarebuli. pirveli imedgacrueba iyo pirvelive matCi belgiis nakrebis winaaRmdeg 1982 wlis 13 maiss da ricxvi cameti ki manamdec mezizReboda. vicodi rom gansakuTrebuli dakvirvebis qveS viyavi radgan zustad espaneTis msoflio Cempionatis dawyebis win “barselonasTan” kontraqti gaformda, romlis mixedviTac katalunielebs rva milionze meti unda gadaexadaT Cems gamo. Cempionatamde fotoc gadamiRes “bokas” lurj-wiTeli maisuriT xelSi da isic miTxres rom Tu ver movigebdi, momklavdnen.

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mainc wavageT. wavageT, magram naRdi penalti ar mogvces. Tumca Semdeg TamaSSi, 17 ivniss, ungrelebi davangrieT da oTxi goli gavutaneT. Cemi pirveli golic msoflio Cempionatebze, im matCSi gavitane. im dRes ungrelebs meorec Sevugde Soridan da ra Tqma unda marcxenaTi. eqvsi dRis Semdeg salvadoris nakrebsac movugeT, magram im TamaSSi imdeni

mirtyes fexebSi rom momeCvena es ar iyo SemTxveviTi. ar mindoda imaze fiqri rom SeTqmulebis msxverpli viyavi, magram mTel msoflios axsovs rogor meqceoda klaudio jentile, roca italiis nakrebs vxvdebodiT 29 ivniss, ukve meore wreze. is TamaSi barselonaSi iyo da italiaSi ki, ramdenime wlis Semdeg, jentile gamomityda rom maSin mxolod imitom meqceoda ase sastikad, rom CemTvis TamaSis saSualeba ar moeca. oriT erTs vagebdiT da ramdenjerac burTis miRebas Sevecdebodi, im wuTSi wvivebSi mirtyamda gametebiT da bolos riTic damTavrda es yvelaferi, mTel msoflios esec kargad axsovs. magram Cemi azriT mTavari damnaSave mainc jentile ki ar iyo, aramed msaji. mere brazilias SevxvdiT 2 ivliss da ramdenjerac espaneTis Cempionatis Semdeg is TamaSi minaxavs, imdenjerve imaze mifiqria rom maTze uaresebi maSin namd-

vilad ar vi­y­ aviT. yve­ lam icis rom is TamaSi CvenTvis cudad damTavrda, magram aravin icis rom im dRes batistas fexebSi imitom gavuZvrine burTi rom sinamdvileSi falkaoze viyavi gabrazebuli da ara sawyal batistaze. faqtia rom is msoflio Cempionati cudad davamTavre da axlac vxedav xolme im saSinel scenas roca moedans vtovebdi da tarantinis Tvalebi macilebdnen. mTel msoflios egona rom es iqneboda Cemi msoflio Cempionati da mec ase megona. Cems pirvel interviuSi, dabrunebis Semdeg, vTqvi rom mxolod me ar wamigia espaneTSi, radgan me gavakeTe is, rac

diego SemeZlo da mxolod erTi fexburTeli arasodes agebs. Sen SegiZlia ukeTesad an uaresad iTamaSo, magram igeb an ageb gundTan erTad. Tumca sxvebisagan gansxvavebiT maSin me ufro meti wavage, radgan gamarjveba CemsaviT aravis undoda, rogorc aravis sjeroda am gamarjvebis Cemze metad. male barselonaSi unda wavsuliyavi da maT, vinc Cemi gamgzavrebis gamo tiroda, isic vuTxari rom argentinaSi gacilebiT mniSvnelovani ambebi xdeboda, vidre maradonas “barsaSi” gadasvla iyo. Jurnalistebs ki gavumeore rom mindoda Cemi mexsierebidan wameSala es Cempionati da 86 is momaval Cempionatze fiqri damewyo. yvelaferi amis Semdeg, yvelaze mTavari CemTvis iyo `barselona~, romelic meloda ukve da axlac mjera rom `barselona~ marTla saCemo klubi iyo. msoflios saukeTeso klubi saukeTesoebs Soris “iuventusis” CaTvliT, magram me ar vicnobdi katalunielebis yvela Taviseburebas. aseve verasodes warmovidgendi rom aseTi ucnauri aRmoCndeboda klubis prezidenti xose luis nunesi, romelic Tavs uxvedrebda xolme fotografebs rom misi suraTi gazeTebSi daebeWdaT. roca vagebdiT xolme, tiriliT Se­modioda gasaxdelSi da met Tanxas gvTavazobda, TiTqos mxolod fulze iyo damokidebuli uk­ eTesad viTamaSebdiT Tu uaresad. presaSi iseTi didi finansuri gavlenebi hqonda rom gazeTebSi Cems winaaRmdeg werilebs abeWdinebda mosyidul Jurnalistebs. amitomac sinamdvileSi aRmovCndi bnel da rTul garemoSi da Sesabamisi fexburTis TamaSic daviwye, radgan rac klubSi xdeboda, es ar iyo namdvili fexburTi, miuxedavad imisa rom gundSi espaneTis saukeTeso moTamaSeebi gvyavda. me arasodes mindoda maTTan dapirispireba, radgan isini bolomde akeTebdnen yvelafers, risi gakeTebac SeeZloT, ma-

gram Zalian Zneli iyo teqnikuri cvlilebebis Setana, radgan isini darbodnen, me ki burTs vagorebdi. CemTvis SeuZlebeli iyo amis Segueba da me ar SemeZlo gauTaveblad sirbili da mgoni mxolod germaneli bernd Susteris gageba SemeZlo, magram bolos iseT mdgomareobaSi aRmovCni rom an sxvebiviT unda merbina an gundidan unda wavsuliyavi. Zalian movindome da fizikuradac aSkarad gavZlierdi, Tumca problemebi mainc mqonda siswrafis gamo da es ar iyo Cemi Tanagundelebis brali. problema iyo sxvac, wagebuli TamaSebis garda, rasac mere Cemi hepatitic daemata, romelic 1982 wlis 15 dekembers, xuTSabaT dRes aRmomiCines. klinikaSi unda gaekeTebinaT CemTvis raRac lazeruli procedura, magram SesvlisTanave, erT-erTi eqimi Zalian saeWvod damakvirda Tvalebze da sisxlis analizis Sedegebi momTxova. mere ki pirdapir miTxra rom Cemi Tvalebis feri ar moswonda, magram diagnozis dasma ar uCqaria. diagnozi miTxres mxolod meore dRes, roca ukve aRarc vicodi ra mefiqra da barseloneli eqimi bestitic dumda. _ ra maqvs, eqimo? _ vkiTxe magram konkretuli araferi mipasuxa da oTaxSi win da ukan siaruli gaagrZela. mxolod erTi fraza miTxra: _ es SeiZleba nebismiers daemarTos. viTom mamxnevebda, magram es fraza ufro maSinebda. mgoni amitomac davuyvire: _ miTxariT ra mWirs! _ hepatiti gaqvs, diego _ miTxra da megona rom momkla. pedralbesze, Cems saxlSi Cavikete, magram marTla Cavikete, radgan fexburTis naxva televizorSic ki ar SemeZlo da amis gakeTeba Cems saxlSi sxvebsac, yvelas avukrZale. dResaswaulebze, bedad, dedaCemi Ca­ movida. ocdaxuTSi ki nunesma Cemi ba­ rselonaSi yofnis ganmavlobaSi, er­Ta­ derTi sixaruli momaniWa da miTxra rom lateks gundidan uSvebdnen da menoti CamohyavdaT. 1982 wlis agvistoSi, roca me Camovedi, udo lateki ukve “barselonaSi” damxvda. mere, roca is gauSves da nunesma CemTan saubarSi menotis saxeli axsena, me vupasuxe rom “barsas” mwvrTnelobisTvis saukeTeso varianti iqneboda. marTlac, masTan erTad movigeT samefo Tasi da ligis Tasic da es iyo saukeTeso “barselona”, romelTanac TamaSi SevZeli da romelic Zalian, Zalian gansxvavdeboda im pirvandeli “barsasagan”. gansxvavebebi maSinve, ukve varjiSebze

daiwyo. lateki gvavarjiSebda xolme samedicino burTiT, romelic rva kilograms iwonida. rvakiloiani burTiT unda gverbina karidan karSi. erT dResac es burTi pirdapir mas movartyi da vuTxari: _ momismine mister, iqneb erTxel Senc mosinjo am burTiT TamaSi da meore dRes ki naxo rogor iqnebi? uZiloba calke problema iyo “barsaSi”. argentinaSi TamaSis dReebSi or saaTamde meZina xolme rom stadionze dasvenebuli mivsuliyaviT. barselonaSi ki, Cemi erT-erTi pirveli matCis dRes, dilauTenia gamaRviZes. karze damikakunes xmamaRla. meZina da cota gabrazebulma, xmamaRla vikiTxe vin aris-meTqi, radgan jer mxolod cxris naxevari iyo. _ mwvrTnelma Tqveni gaRviZeba damavala. _ ratom? _ varjiSi unda daiwyoT. _ gadaeciT mwvrTnels rom jer adrea. cota xanSi TviTon lateki movida. _ aq yvelani imas akeTeben, rasac me vambob. _ me dasveneba mWirdeba da aqaur wesebs jer unda SeveCvio, Tu Tqven es ar mogwonT, Tqveni nebaa... _ Sen amisTvis daisjebi! gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi

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sasamarTlo

kiTxva _ pasuxi

*** nineli juReli: _ var ganqorwinebuli, myavs mcirewlovani Svili, romelic izrdeba CemTan. sasamarTlom Cems meuRles bavSvis naxvisa da maTTan saxlSi wayvanis ufleba misca. daudgina konkretuli dReebic. Tumca Cemi meuRlis saxlidan bavSvi yovelTvis ganerviulebuli brundeba. metic, Cveni ganSorebis mizezi meuRlis loToba da autaneli saqcieli iyo. bavSvi meuRlis saxlSi mxolod cud Cvevebs iZens. mainteresebs, maqvs Tu ara ufleba, sasamarTlos ZaliT moviTxovo, rom Cems yofil meuRles aekrZalos SvilTan urTierToba? _ mSobels, romelic SvilTan er­ Tad ar cxovrobs, ufleba aqvs, urT­ ierToba hqondes SvilTan da val­ debulia, monawileoba miiRos mis aRzrdaSi. xolo mSobels, romelT­ anac Svili cxovrobs, ufleba ara aqvs, xeli SeuSalos meore mSobels, urTierToba iqonios SvilTan da monawileoba miiRos mis aRzrdaSi. magram amasTanave, sasamarTlos ufleba aqvs, calke mcxovreb mSo­ bels gansazRvruli vadiT CamoarT­ vas SvilTan urTierTobis ufleba, Tu aseTi urTierToba xels uSlis Svilis normalur aRzrdas da mavne zegavlenas axdens masze. sasamarT­ lo gadawyvetilebas iRebs konkre­ tuli faqtis Sefasebis Semdeg. *** besik beroSvili: _ myavs meuRle, romelTanac vapireb ganqorwinebas, Cveni erTad cxovreba ukve SeuZlebelia. magram Cemi meuRle aris meore bavSvze fexmZimed da amis gamo, rogorc miTxres, ufleba ar maqvs, masTan oficialurad ganvqorwinde? marTalia Tu ara es informacia? _ diax. colis orsulobis dros da bavSvis dabadebidan erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi qmars ufleba ara aqvs, colis Tanxmobis gareSe aRZras saqme ganqorwinebaze. *** nia javaxiSvili: _ Cemi qorwinebamdeli gvaria janjalaSvili, Cemi meuRle ki javaxiSvilia, amitom daqorwinebis dros meuRlis gvarze gadavedi. amJamad

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irakli lomsaZis naxatebi

nino balavaZe: _ ukve xuTi welia, ganqorwinebuli var meuRlesTan, gvyavs saerTo Svili, romelic 12 wlisaa. yofil meuRles sasamarTlos mier dakisrebuli aqvs alimentis gadaxda. erTi wlis win bavSvi gaxda cudad da saWiroebs seriozul mkurnalobas. daxmarebisTvis mivmarTe yofil meuRles, romelmac uari ganmicxada im motiviT, rom ixdis aliments. maqvs Tu ara ufleba, sasamarTlos gziT moviTxovo misgan bavSvis samkurnalod damatebiTi Tanxa. _ saqarTvelos samoqalaqo kanon­ mdeblobis Tanaxmad, mSobels, ro­ melic uxdis aliments arasrulw­ lovan Svilebs, SeiZleba daekisros monawileoba damatebiT xarjebSi, romelic gamowveulia gansakuTreb­ uli garemoebebiT (bavSvis mZime avadmyofoba, dasaxiCreba).

rogor unda daicva

qeTi kapanaZe xmauriani sasamarTlo procesi, gadawyvetileba, romelic SeiZleba sasargeblo precedenti gaxdes. dava miwis nakveTisTvis da daundobeli brZola, romelsac wertili sasamarT­ lom dausva. dava sakuTrebisTvis da qonebis dakanonebisTvis axali araa. Tumca brZolis civilizebuli meTodebi CvenSi jer kidev ver damkvidrda. dava mezoblebs Soris erTi goji miwis gamoc xSirad wesebis gareSe brZolas emsgavseba da arcTu ise iSviaTad tragikulad mTavrdeba. da mainc, yvelafris quCaSi gadawyvetas varCevT da arc ki gvaxsendeba sasamarTlo darbazi. zogi ityvis, sasamarTlo xangrZlivi da damRleli procesiao, amitomac urCevnia, kunTebi aTamaSos da `metoqes~ cxvir-piri daamtvrios. mere ra, rom amis gamo, karga xans cixeSi iyuryutebs. SeiZleba es istoriac cudad dasrulebuliyo, miwis mesakuTres sasamarTlosTvis rom ar miemarTa. cnobisTvis: imisTvis, rom dakaveb­ uli miwa daikanonoT, sakmarisia, saTa­ nado sabuTebi moagrovoT da komisias warudginoT. am sabuTebis sia ki grZe­ li namdvilad araa: miwis TviTnebu­ rad dakavebis damadasturebeli do­ kumenti, cnoba; daxasiaTeba uflebis damadasturebeli dokumentis gareSe; sasamarTlos aqti; orTofoto (anu miwis nakveTis aerofotogadaReba); miwis nakveTis sakadastro azomviTi naxazi; piradobis mowmobis asli da aseve mowmeTa Cvenebebi, sanotaro wesiT damowmebuli, rom am pirs namd­ vilad TviTneburad hqonda dakavebu­ li aRniSnuli miwis nakveTi. am doku­ mentacias Seiswavlis komisia da iRebs gadawyvetilebas. wyneTis miwebi yovelTvis gansakuTrebul interess iwvevda. am ambis mTavar gmirs manola laRiZes wyneTSi 3000 kv.m miwis nakveTi aqvs. es qoneba mas meuRlisgan darCa. igi adre daqvrivda da eqvs Svils marto zrdida. roca sakuTrebis

dakanonebis wesebi gamartivda, laRiZem qoneba meriaSi yvela wesis dacviT daaregistrira da 2008 wlis 13 maiss miwis sakuTrebis uflebis mowmobac aiRo. mSvidad iyo. egona, sakuTrebaSi veRaravin Seecileboda. mis miwas ucnobebma Tvali rom daadges, ramdenime Tvis Semdeg sruliad SemTxveviT gaigo. yvelaferi maSin daiwyo, roca qvrivma gadawyvita, sakuTreba eqvsi SvilisTvis gaeyo. roca sabuTebis gadaformeba daapira, administraciul organoSi gamoucxades, rom sakuTreba misi aRar iyo. Seecada, rame gaerkvia, magram veraferi gaigo. manola laRiZe: _ sakuTreba Cemia da ratom unda wamarTvas sxvam, me minda Cemi nawvalebi davutovo Svilebs, wlebis ganmavlobaSi me vsargeblob am miwiT da axla rogor gaxda sxvisi?! is adamianebi saerTod ar vici, vin arian, ar minaxavs, ar uTqvamT, ar dabaro, ar moiyvanoo, 20-30 welia vamuSaveb am miwas da arasodes aravin mosula. es aris Cemi winaprebis miwa. eseni saidan gamoCndnen, ar vici. manola laRiZe mixvda, rom marto verafers gaxdeboda da gadawyvita, sasamarTlosTvis miemarTa. advokati aiyvana da sarCeli gaamzada. magram sarCelis Sesatani fuli ar hqonda. miuxedavad amisa, dabrkoleba ar Seqmnia. sabuTebi mainc miiRes. rogorc umweos, saxelmwifo baJi ar gadaaxdevines. ase rom ar yofiliyo, asi laris gadaxda mouwevda. roca saqmis ganxilva daiwyo, sasamarTlom jer im pirTa vinaoba daadgina, vinc manola laRiZes edaveboda. Semdeg ki sajaro reestris daxmarebiT gamoarkvia, rom laRiZis miwis nakveTTan arc erT modaves aranairi Sexeba ar hqonia. maTi interesebi qalbatoni manolas sakuTrebis uflebiT aranairad ar ilaxeboda. anu braldeba qalbaton manolas mimarT usafuZvlo iyo. Sesabamisad, mosamarTlem gadawyvetileba qalbaton manolas sasargeblod gamoitana. pensioner qalbatons sakuTrebaze ufleba aRudga.

mosamarTlis komentari miranda eremaZe, Tbilisis saqa­ laqo sasamarTlos spiker-mosamar­ Tle: _ sxvaTa Soris, roca qalbatonma manolam pirvelad sasamarTloSi sarCelis Setana scada, is ar miiRes. amis mizezi ki is xarvezi iyo, romelic mis sarCels daudgines. unda mivaqcioT yuradReba, rom sasamarTloSi sarCelis wardgenisas aris specialuri moTxovnebi, rasac unda akmayofilebdes warmodgenili sarCeli. konkretul SemTxvevaSi qalbaton manolas ar dauzustebia, romeli aqtis baTilad cnobas iTxovda. Sesabamisad, sasamarTlom es xarvezi daudgina, roca xarvezi gasworda, dazustda is aqti, ris gabaTilebasac qalbatoni manola iTxovda, sarCelis Setanas ukve aRaranairi dabrkoleba ar hqonia da, ra Tqma unda, sasamarTlom sarCeli miiRo. _ ra uflebebs aniWebs pirs sa­ kuTrebis ufleba? _ rogorc mesakuTres, SeuZlia gayidos, gaasxvisos, memkvidreobiT gadasces, anu Tavisuflad gankargos Tavisi qoneba.

rom ara sasamarTlo... manola laRiZe dakargavda yovel­ gvar uflebas am qonebaze. verc mis gayidvas, verc memkvidreobiT ga­ dacemas ver SeZlebda. marTalia, mas SesaZlebloba eqneboda, gaegrZele­ bina miwis damuSaveba, ise, rogorc amas aqamde akeTebda, Tumca, faqto­ brivad, es miwa saxelmwifo qonebad darCeboda da im SemTxvevaSi, Tu saxelmwifo saWirod miiCnevda mis gayidvas an sxvanairad gankargvas, qalbaton manolas masze uaris Tqma mouwevda.

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kiTxva _ pasuxi vapireb meuRlesTan ganqorwinebas, mainteresebs, maqvs Tu ara ufleba, davitovo meuRlis gvari. _ meuRles, romelmac gvari Seicv­ ala daqorwinebis dros, ufleba aqvs, ganqorwinebis Semdegac ataros igive gvari. *** lela sanikiZe: _ myavs meuRle, magram ar gviCndeba Svili. gadavwyvite, rom aviyvano bavSvi, magram Cemi meuRle sastiki winaaRmdegia. mainteresebs, maqvs Tu ara ufleba, damoukideblad aviyvano bavSvi da mivce mas Cemi meuRlis gvari. _ Tu bavSvi Svilad ahyavs erT-erT meuRles, saWiroa meore meuRlis Tanxmobac. aseTi Tanxmoba saWiro ar aris mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu meore meuRle aRiarebulia qmeduunarod, an meuRleebs, faqto­ brivad, Sewyvetili aqvT saqorwino urTierToba erT welze meti xnis ganmavlobaSi, anda meore meuRlis sacxovrebeli adgili ucnobia.

samuSao adgilebis Semcireba da kadrebis gauqmeba krizisis periodSi Cveulebrivi ambavia. Tu samsaxuridan moulodnelad dagiTxoves, icodeT, es `samyaros dasasruli~ ar aris. mTavaria, Sromis kodeqssa da sakuTar uflebebze gqondeT cotaodeni warmodgena da Tqveni interesebis dacvas, erTi SexedviT, gamouval situaciaSic moaxerxebT. `urwmunoebisTvis~ sagangebod minda vTqva, rom ambavi, axla rom mogiyvebiT, mogonili araa da arc masSi moqmedi pirebi arian virtualuri personaJebi. es namdvilad TbilisSi moxda. ufro zustad ki es ori istoriaa, romelic erTmaneTs Zalian hgavs. orive ambis mTavari moqmedi piri qalia. orive vicepolkovnikia. nestan verulaSvili da giuli abulaZe im qalTa siaSi arian, romlebmac cxovrebis saqmed mamakacuri profesia airCies. nestan verulaSvili sami Svilis dedaa. giuli abulaZes ki erTi qaliSvili hyavs. roca qveyana daiqca da saqarTveloSi puris fulis Sovna gaWirda, bevr ojaxSi qali erTaderTi marCenali gaxda. maT ricxvSi aRmoCndnen nestani da giulic. nestan verulaSvilma 1992 wels daiwyo saqarTvelos Sinagan saqmeTa saministros organoebSi muSaoba. maSin is mxolod 20 wlis iyo. ambobs, rom araerTi borotmoqmedi daukavebia. mere sigelic misces. roca samsaxuridan ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb Seityo, Tbilisis kriminaluri policiis avtosatransporto saSualebebis gatacebaTa winaaRmdeg brZolis ganyofilebaSi ufrosis moadgile iyo. 2007 wlis 20 seqtembers samsaxurSi Cveulebrivad gamocxadda da moulodnelad gaigo, rom iq aRar muSaobda. qalbatonma nestanma maSinve sasamarTlos mimarTa. sasamarTlom samsaxuridan misi ganTavisuflebis dros mniSvnelovani darRvevebi aRmoaCina. qalbatoni nestani, jer erTi, SvebulebaSi yofnis dros gaaTavisufles; meorec, misi umcrosi vaJi luka am dros sami wlisac ar iyo; mesame, roca daiTxoves, saswavlo kursebs gadioda; da meoTxe, ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb erTi TviT

adre arc aravis ucnobebia. kanoniT ki yvela am SemTxvevaSi samsaxuridan adamianis ganTavisufleba kategoriulad ikrZaleba. amgvarad damtkicda, rom administraciulma organom kanoni daarRvia nestan verulaSvilis ganTavisuflebisas, Sesabamisad, sasamarTlom misi ganTavisuflebis brZaneba baTilad cno. administraciul organos moqalaqis samsaxurSi aRdgena da iZulebiT gacdenili samuSao saaTebis anazRaurebac daekisra. sasamarTlo procesi sakmaod mokle droSi dasrulda. sarCeli 18 oqtombers waradgines saqalaqo sasamarTloSi da 21 noembers ukve gadawyvetileba iqna miRebuli. saqalaqo sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba ZalaSi datoves saapelacio da uzenaesma sasamarTloebma. nestanisgan gansxvavebiT, giuli abulaZis sasamarTlo `Tavgadasavali~ bevrad ufro xangrZlivi gamodga. is cnobili pirovneba iyo, gasuli saukunis 80-ian wlebSi bevrs axsovs miliciis maiori qalbatoni, romelic saqarTvelos televiziiT avtosagzao SemTxvevebis Sesaxeb informacias awvdida sazogadoebas. usiamovneba samsaxurSi mas vardebis revoluciamde cota xniT adre daewyo. 2004 wlis 28 oqtombers ufrosma, zewoliT, giuli abulaZes, ramdenime TanamSromelTan erTad, Tanamdebobidan ganTavisuflebis Se­ saxeb pataki daawerina. TiTqos uimedo saqmea. Znelia imis damtkiceba, rom ufrosi zewolas axdenda da gancxadeba Seni nebiT ar dagiweria. magram SeiZleba gamosavali sul uimedo situaciaSic moiZebnos. mTavaria, droulad da sworad imoqmedo. rogorc ki samsaxuridan daiTxoves, giuli abulaZem maSinve sasamarTlos mimarTa. marTalia, misi procesi wlebis manZilze gaiwela, magram bolos mainc misi gamarjvebiT dasrulda. sabolood samsaxurSi misi aRdgena mxolod 2008 wlis maisSi moxda. sasamarTlom gaarkvia, rom pataki arasworad yofila Sedgenili. vinc qalbaton giulis es pataki daawerina, etyoba, kanoni ar icoda. patakSi ewera: giuli

abulaZe piradi surviliT iqna ganTavisuflebuli samsaxuridan da kadrebis gankargulebaSi gadayvanili. es ki kanoniT dauSvebelia. vinc samsaxuridan nebiT midis, is kadrebSi aRar gadahyavT. iyo sxva darRvevac. abulaZe samsaxuridan maSin daiTxoves, roca mZimed iyo avad, mas mwvave bronqiti hqonda da samsaxurSi ar dadioda. es faqtorebi erTerTi mTavari motivacia iyo mosamarTlisTvis, roca administraciul organos qalbatoni giulis samsaxurSi aRdgena daakisra. dReisTvis nestan verulaSvilic da giuli abulaZec TavianTi profesiiT muSaoben.

kiTxvebi spikermosamarTles: _ procesis xangrZlivobis Ses­ axebac rom gvesaubroT, ramden xans SeiZleba gaiwelos msgavsi Sinaarsis saqme? _ SromiTi samarTlebrivi urTierTobidan gamomdinare, moTxovnis Sesaxeb saqmeebis ganxilva, saproceso kanonmdeblobis Sesabamisad, sxva saqmeebTan SedarebiT, ganxilul unda iqnas SemWidroebul vadebSi da amisTvis kanoni iTvaliswinebs araugvianes erT Tves. _ Seicvala Tu ara samsaxuridan daTxovnis procedura da Tu Seicva­ la, ra Seicvala? _ Zveli kanonmdeblobiT moxele ar SeiZleboda gaeTavisuflebinaT samsaxuridan, Tu igi Tanaxma iyo, daniSnuliyo sxva Tanamdebobaze, anu administracias ekisreboda SeTavazebis valdebuleba. garda amisa, kanoni moxelis samsaxuridan ganTavisuflebis SemTxvevaSi iTvaliswinebda samsaxurSi upiratesi darCenis uflebas, anu iyo konkretuli pirobebi, ra SemTxvevaSi hqonda moxeles, sxva pirebTan SedarebiT, samsaxurSi darCenis upiratesi ufleba.

*** levan nadiraZe: _ Cemma simamrma gardacvalebamde Tavisi agaraki uanderZa Cems Svils, anu Tavis SviliSvils. magram, roca misi gardacvalebis Semdeg misi naaderZevi saxlis sabuTebi moviZieT, aRmoCnda, rom es saxli Cemi simamris sakuTreba aRar iyo, radgan, rogorc mere gairkva, bankSi yofila Cadebuli da kreditSi gauyides. Cemma simamrma ki ar gvanerviula da araferi uTqvams sicocxleSi am problemis Sesaxeb. mainteresebs, maqvs Tu ara ufleba, im qonebidan moviTxovo kompensacia, romelic Cemma simamrma anderZiT sxva SviliSvilebs dautova. Cven xom yvelaze metad davzaraldiT. _ kanonis Tanaxmad, is saanderZo gankarguleba, romlis safuZvelzec xdeba iseT nivTze memkvidred dasax­ eleba, romelic ar aris samkvidro qonebaSi, baTilia. Sesabamisad, Tuki samkvidros gaxsnis droisTvis aga­ raki, romelic Tqvens Svils eander­ Za, ukve aRar iricxeboda Tqveni si­ mamris qonebaSi, es anderZi baTilia. *** Salva RambaSiZe: _ dazaralebulis an mowmis gamoucxadeblobas gamomZiebelTan ra samarTlebrivi Sedegi SeiZleba mohyves? _ piri, romelsac kanoniT dad­ genili wesiT iZaxebs gamomZiebeli, prokurori, mosamarTle sisxlis samarTlis saqmis warmoebasTan da­ kavSirebiT, valdebulia, gamocxad­ des zustad daniSnul dros. ga­ moucxadeblobis SemTxvevaSi pro­ cesis monawile SeiZleba iZule­ biT miiyvanon, rogorc winaswari gamoZiebis msvlelobisas, aseve sa­ samarTloSi. mowmis an dazaralebu­ lis iZulebiT moyvana dasaSvebia mx­ olod mosamarTlis (sasamarTlos) brZanebis (dadgenilebis, ganCinebis) safuZvelze. arasapatio mizeziT ga­ moucxadeblobisas pirs ekisreba 100-dan 500 laramde odenobiT ja­ rima.

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politikosTa fuWi dapirebebi mirian boqoliSvili anabrebi da sesxebi yovelTvis is Tema iyo, riTac amomrCevlebze monadire politikosebi sazogadoebis `dabolebas~ cdilobdnen. es, erTi SexedviT, keTilSobiluri punqti TiTqmis yvela partiis saarCevno programaSi figurirebda da figurirebs axlac. magaliTad, marTalia, naTelaSvilisTvis prezidentoba ukve auxdenel ocnebad iqca, magram pirveli leiboristi proletarebis gulis monadirebas swored sesxebis dafarviTa da mTeli avladidebis nacionalizaciiT cdilobs. bolo xans naTelaSvils, saprezidento konkurentebis garda, programuli konkurentebic gamouCndnen. misi idea alasanias aliansma aitaca da kreditorebs cnobili mesiji gaugzavna _ swored Cven varT is Zala, romelic Tqven mier aRebul sesxebs dafaravso. xalxisTvis mimzidveli, magram profesionali eqspertebisTvis cota sasacilo dapireba aliansma fukasaviT aacala `leiboristebs~. Salikos aseT vai-viSs seriozulad ukve aRaravin aRiqvams, magram sul sxvaa irakli alasania, romelic TiTqos naziarebi unda iyos dasavlur politikasa da iq arsebul safinanso sistemas. SesaZloa, man am ganacxadiT arCevnebze xmebi marTlac miiRos, magram mohyveba Tu ara dapirebas gagrZeleba, kacma ar icis. amboben, rom alasania iseve dafaravs kreditorTa sesxebs, rogorc saakaSvilma daubruna SevardnaZis mier gadagdebul meanabreebs an­­abrebi. bevri amas, ub­ralod, politikur kuntruSad afasebs da ara realur gaTvlebze gakeTebul ganacxadad. aliansidan kreditorTa armias `axali memarjveneebis~ warmo­ madgeneli manana naW-

yebia xelmZRvanelobs. igi am adamianebs iseve aqtiurad daatarebs aqciebze, rogorc Tavis droze gamsaxurdias qvrivs dahyavda mananistebi `SevardnaZe iudas~ saZaxeblad. manana naWyebia: `xelisuflebis mier warmoebuli araswori politikis gamo bevrma veRar aamuSava Tavisi biznesi. amitom maTi problema swored xelisuflebam unda moagvaros. daufaros bankebSi Tanxa am adamianebs, isini erTi wlis Semdeg dafaraven Tanxebs, iSovian samsaxurs da aamoqmedeben bizness. Zalian bevri TviTmkvlelobaa amis niadagze, ingreva ojaxebi, janmrTelobasa da sicocxles eqmneba safrTxe da xelisufleba movalea, am saqmeSi Caerios. _ anu Tu Tqven xelisufle­ baSi moxvalT, am adamianebis valebs dafaravT? _ maT vpirdebiT, rom xelisuflebaSi Cveni mosvlis SemTxvevaSi biujetid­ an gamoiyofa Tanxebi maTi valebis dasafarad da Semdeg saxelmwifo, bankebTan erTad, moaxdens am valebis administrirebas. es adamianebi uars ar amboben fulis

gadaxdaze, maTi moTxovnaa procentis SeCereba. Tu Cven movaxerxeT xelisuflebis Secvla, momavali wlis biujetSi ki ara, mimdinare wlis biujetSi Seva cvlilebebi da gamoinaxeba Sesabamisi Tanxebi. Tu arada, es xelisufleba valdebulia, upasuxos am adamianebis moTxovnebs. _ politikosebi yovelTvis manipulireben anabrebisa da sesxebis TemiT. ra ga­ rantiaa, rom Tqvens Sem­ TxvevaSic ase araa? _ samarTliani kiTxvaa. ra Tqma unda, adamianebs hgoniaT, rom yvela xelisufleba upasuxismgebloa. Zalian Znelia, amtkico, rom Cven

ukeTesebi varT amJamindel xelisuflebasTan SedarebiT. amas dro aCvenebs. _ rodesac vsaubrobT eko­ nomikur krizisze, ramdenad marTebulia, biujetma kerZo pirebis sesxebi dafaros? aris ki realurad amis saSu­ aleba? _ Cven vfiqrobT, rom biujets aqvs amis saSualeba. _ sxva seqtori xom ar izaralebs amiT, magaliTad, socialuri programebi da ase Semdeg? _ ara, namdvilad ar izaralebs. pirvel rigSi, maincdamainc socialur programebs nu miadgebian. qamrebi unda moiWiron dRes xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma. TveSi 30 milionis gamoyofa saxelmwifo biujets namdvilad SeuZlia. Cven gvaqvs gaTvlebi. ver getyviT, ra gaTvlebs eyrdnoba qalbatoni manana, magram eqsperti-finansistebi amboben, rom saxelmwifo biujetidan amxela valebis dafarva TiTqmis warmoudgenelia da aseTi ram arc erT normalur qveyanaSi ar xdeba. Tavad kreditorebi ki ac­ xadeben, rom maT seriozuli problemebi seqtembridan daewyoT, anu mas Semdeg, rac ekonomikuri krizisis safrTxe gaCnda. isini ar malaven, rom sxva xelisSemSlel faqtorebTan erTad, problemas qveyanaSi arsebuli politikuri daZabuloba da mimdinare mitingebi qmnis. lela mumlaZe, kredi­ tori: `bankidan 58 aTasi lari maqvs gamotanili. 3 welia, bank `respublikis~ klienti var da arasdros ar damigvianebia Tanxis Setana. liloSi maRaziebi maqvs. dRemde ar mqonia problema, magram ufro da ufro mZimdeba situacia. agvistos omiT daiwyo, mere ekonomikuri krizisi mohyva da ase Semdeg. mesmis, rom

es ar aris erTi qveynis problema, es mTeli msoflios problemaa, magram saxelmwifom daxmareba unda aRmogviCinos. romeli politikuri Zalac Cadebs Tavis programaSi am sakiTxs, imas davuWer mxars. magram Cven velodebiT Cveni mTavrobis gadawyvetilebas, romelsac xalxma ndoba gamoucxada~. meri naWyebia, kreditori: `omis Semdeg gamiWirda gadaxda. 10 aTasi lari maqvs gamotanili `viTibi bankidan~. om­Tan erTad amaze imoqmeda politikurma procesebma. kalapotidanaa amovardnili yvelaferi. kargi iqneba, Tu saxelmwifo gadagvixdis, ufro sworad ki gadagvivadebs gadaxdas~. sesxebis gacemis mxriv, sabanko seqtorSi `saqarTvelos banki~ liderobs. banks ukve SemuSavebuli aqvs konkretuli gegma, romlis mixedviTac moxdeba SeRavaTiani grafikis daweseba. rogorc Cans, sabanko seqtori acnobierebs, rom saxelmwifos mier am sakiTxSi Careva zogadad qveynis safinanso mdgomareobaze uaryofiTad aisaxeba. amitom klientebTan urTierTobas isini individualur reJimSi awarmoeben. sofo balavaZe, `saqarT­ velos bankis~ sazogadoebas­ Tan urTierTobis menejeri: banks SemuSavebuli aqvs restruqturizaciis gzebi, romelic morgebulia qveyanaSi arsebul mdgomareobas, gansakuTrebiT ki konfliqtis zonaSi myofi momxmareblebis mdgomareobaa gaTvaliswinebuli. individualurad ganvixilavT yvela im klientis SemTxvevas, romelsac obieqturi Seferxeba Seeqmna sesxis dafarvaSi da vukeTebT sesxis restruqturizacias. sesxis restruqturizacia, Cveni momxmareblisTvis im momentSi Seqmnili viTarebis gaTvaliswinebiT, gulisxmobs ufro moxerxebuli ga­ daxdis grafikis Se­muSavebas, sesx­ is dafarvis vadis gadaxedvas, yovel­ Tviurad gadasaxdeli Tanxis Semcirebas~. meri naWyebia da lela mumlaZe

qarTuli biznesxrikebi ekonomikuri krizisis fonze erekle sturua es aucileblad unda icodeT... yvela Tqvengans yoveldRiurad uwevs Sexeba supermarketebTan, bankebTan, afTiaqebTan da a.S. yvela aseT dawesebulebaSi molare momRimari saxiTa da keTili survilebiT amogirtyamT Ceks, Tqvenc patiosnad ixdiT Tanxas. cota Tu amCnevs, rom molaris, erTi SexedviT, gulubryvilo mzeris ukan mepatronis sakmaod eSmakuri xriki imaleba, romlis meSveobiTac zogjer is milionian sargebelsac ki naxulobs. mas Semdeg, rac Cvens qveyanaSic atyda ekonomikuri krizisis isteria, safaso politikamac ganicada erTgvari saxecvlileba. dRes produqciis etiketze iSviaTad Tu SeniSnavT damrgvalebul Tanxebs. bankis gadasaxadebi, aseve produqtebi da wamlebi

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orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

ZiriTadad msgavsi cifrebiT ganisazRvreba: 4 lari da 37 TeTri, 52 lari da 13 TeTri, 7 lari da 98 TeTri da a.S. raRa Tqma unda, 2-3 TeTrs xurdas aravin dagibrunebs. erTi sityviT, Tu Tqven afTiaqSi SeiZenT 18 TeTrad Rirebul analgins, rogorc wesi, ixdiT 20 TeTrs, Tumca Cekze miTiTebulia, rom es wamali Rirs 18 TeTri. sagadasaxado samsaxuri afTiaqTan angariSs asworebs ara im TanxiT, ra Tanxac Tqven gadaixadeT, aramed imiT, rac salaro aparatSia miTiTebuli. gTavazobT mcire eqsperiments: Cven Tbilisis erT-erT cnobil supermarketSi _ `populiSi~ SeviZineT qaTmis erTi barkali. molare-operatorma is Cveulebriv gaatara kompiuterul bazaSi da... 2 lari da 60 TeTri, _ miTxra bednieri saxiT. ra-

sakvirvelia, Tanxa uproblemod gadavixade da gamovarTvi Ceki, sadac fasis grafaSi miTiTebuli iyo 2 lari da 56 TeTri. axla mcire ariTmetikas mivmarToT. Tu supermarketi Cekze wers, rom momxmareblisgan miiRo 2,56 lari, oficialurad 1000 momxmareblisgan miiRebs 2560 lars, saidanac sagadasaxado samsaxuri, dRg-s saxiT, waiRebs 390 lars (18-procentiani dRg-s SemTxvevaSi). magram ra xdeba realurad? rigiTi momxmarebeli, iseve, rogorc me, ver gadaixdis daumrgvalebel Tanxas, 2-3 TeTrs ki xurdas aravin dagibrunebs. magaliTad, 2,56 laris nacvlad erT cal barkalSi vixdiT 2,60 TeTrs, Sesabamisad, 1000 barkalze salaroSi Sedis ara 2560 lari, aramed 2600 lari. am Tanxidan

sagadasaxado kvlav 390 lars waiRebs, supermarkets ki 2210 lari darCeba, nacvlad 2170 larisa. erTi sityviT, saxezea 40-lariani afiora. es mxolod erTi konkretuli magaliTis SemTxvevaSi. msxvil komerciul dawesebulebebSi da ufro farTo masStabebSi es Tanxa zogjer milionebsac ki urtyams. kompaniebi, momxmareblebs Rimiliani mzeriT atyueben. kapikebSi, magram mainc. Tumca kapikebs ver davarq­m­evT im Tanxas, r o m e ­l ­ ic xazinaSi ar midis

da sakaso manipulaciebiT mxolod biznesmenebis jibeebSi mieqaneba.

kievis gagonebaze _ katleti erT-erTi pirveli asociaciaa, rac qarTvel axalgazrdas mosdis. ufro zustad ki _ meore. pirveli, yvelasTvis cnobili asociacia ki Cemda gasaocrad, orive sqesis SemTxvevaSi pirvelia da is sxva statiis Temaa. qiaCelis quCaze mdebare mopab-restorno `dunas~, swored kievuri katletis xaTriT vestumreT. es mzareuli manamde abaSiZeze, aw gardacvil `neroSi~, Semdeg ki `CobaSi~ muSaobda. kievuri katletis moyvarulebi ki mas kvaldakval dahyvebian. kievurs aq `sentandre~ hqvia da sakmaod mozrdili fasi _ 17 lari adevs. sxvagan saSualod 10 lari Rirs, Tumca dameTanxmebiT, qalaqis yvelaze warCinebuli kievurisTvis, xandaxan 17 laris gametebac SeiZleba. ariqa da yovel dRe da yovel lanCze ara, magram Zalianac ar unda moinatro. `dunaSi~ aqaurobisTvis damaxasiaTebeli interieri da energetikiaa. Zveli koncertebis

posterebi, kedlebze uamravi suraTi, kerZebisa Tu ludis didi arCevani da wynari garemo. garedan erTi warweraa paburi karis Tavze da erTi sasacilo maniSnebelic _ gzis gadaRma. Zveli `koka-kolis~ isarze Savi asoebiT aweria _ `duna~, romelsac saukeTeso SemTxvevaSi restornidan gamosvlisas, ise ki, saerTod ver amCnev. aseTi adgilebi TbilisSi, ZiriTadad, britanuli Tu amerikuli didi kompaniebis saSualoze maRali

fenis TanamSromlebs uyvarT. aq Tavisuflad SeiZleba gaskdomamde daTroba, Tumca ver getyviT, rom bari iafia. ludi `paulaneri~, romelic am etapze, qarTul bazarze, Cemi aSkara favoritia, 7,5 lari Rirs. iaponuri `jokerisa~ Tu Cexuri `durakasgan~ gansxvavebiT, kievur katletSi marTla aris ukrainuli sawyisi. Tumca, qalaqidan qalaqSi siarulSi recepti daixvewa da mzareulebsac interpretaciebi ar dauSurebiaT. aqauri, albaT, kavkasiaSi yvelaze gemrielia. sasurvelia, ovalis formis katlets, daniT gaukeToT xvreli da moaxerxoT wvenis SigniT SenarCuneba. dasawerad es daaxloebiT imas hgavs, vinmes xinklis Wamis rituali SMST rom miswero. mokled, vici, moaxerxebT. garnirad mohyveba makdonaldsis jiSis fri. Tumca SegiZliaT, Tqveni surviliT garnirad brinji an kartofilis piure aiRoT. katleti qarTul-klasikurad _ kartofiliT mivirTvi, Tumca damainteresa da brinjic SevukveTe. rogorc Sevatyve, gazafxulTan erTad brinjSi kama gamoCenila. sakmaod mouxda, egreve Semaxsena, rom ufanjro restornis gareT gadasarevi amindi iyo. ho, fanjrebi restorans marTla ara aqvs, Sesasvlel kars Tu ar CavTvliT. Suqi SigniT mxolod eleqtronuli saSualebebiT xvdeba. erTi mxriv es minusia, Tumca, arc uimisobaa, ase realobis dafarva ufro martivia. komfortul da mTvral saRamoebs ki xSirad simyudrove haersa da Suqze metad sWirdeba. momsaxureba iseTivea, rogorc pabSi. araferi zedmeti. Rimili da reagireba _ drouli. warmatebebi _ `dunas~!

profesia - stilisti

miSa gasitaSvili ani pirveli saqarTveloSi stilistebisa da salonebis kultura mxolod ramdenime welia damkvidrda. am mokle xanSi bevrma salonma SeZlo, _ evropul standartebs miaxloeboda da gaTanabreboda kidec. `praimtaimi~ ramdenime warmatebuli salonis popularul stilistebs daukavSirda da mokle interviu Cawera maTTan. miSa gasitaSvili _ 25wlis, stilisti, silamazis saloni `aldo copolla�.

`7 welia stilisti var. Zalian miyvars Cemi saqme. am sferoSi yvelaze mniSvnelovani CemTvis adamianebTan urTierTobaa. Cemi profesiidan gamomdinare, am wlebis ganmavlobaSi, uamravi megobari SeviZine. am salonSi muSaobac Zalian komfortulia. didi gamocdileba miviRe, rodesac milanSi, salonis qselis damfuZnebelTan gamiSves staJirebaze. televiziaSic vmuSaob, wamyvanebs varcxnilobas vukeTeb. rac Seexeba axlandel Tbilisur tendenciebs, aranairi tenden-

artur avetisiani cia ar arsebobs. me ar momwons moduri varcxnilobebi. rac adamians uxdeba, is aris misi moda.~ eduard poRosiani – 30 wlis, stilisti. silamzis saloni `natali~. eduardisTvis stilistoba erTaderTi da yvelaze sayvareli profesiaa. misTvisac yvelaze mTavari klientebTan urTierToba da megobrobaa. `TiTqmis yvela Cems klientTan vmegobrob, Zalian miyvars urTierTobebi da gansakuTrebiT qalebTan. yvela klienti erTnairad sayvarel-

eduard koRosiani ia. konkretulad ver dagisaxelebT, magram getyviT, rom yvela profesiis da fenis warmomadgenlebi dadian CemTan. 15 welia am sferoSi vmuSaob da varcxnilobis tendenciebi Zalian swrafad icvleba. dRes yvelaze moduri _ bunebrivi varcxnolobaa.~ artur avetisiani _ 50 wlis, stilisti. saloni `voiaJi~. arturma 33 wlis asakSi daiwyo stilistoba. manamde zooveterinari iyo da gardabanSi muSaobda. Semdeg gadawyvita, es xeloba eswavla

da vaJa xiTarianis moswavle gaxda. 17 welia stilistia. `pirveli saloni, sadac muSaoba daviwye, faliaSvilze iyo. im droisTvis yvelaze cnobili. maSin Tmis gasworebis bumi iyo. Semdeg ki grZeli da daxveuli Tmebi Semovida modaSi. axla yvelaze aqtualuri sxvadasxva sirgZis `karea~. Zvel profesias veRar davubrundebi, radgan wlovaneba ar miwyobs xels. ise ki vTvli, rom am samsaxuris gamo cxovrebaSi gamimarTla. Tanac me var pirveli, vinc Tmis gasworeba daiwyo saqarTveloSi.~ orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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mas mTeli cxovreba Tan sdevda miTiuri Sleifi...

rezo SatakiSvili

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elene yi `Zveli vodevilebi~

`ezoSi avi ZaRlia~

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orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

man dalewa miTi, rom Teatris msaxiobi ver gaxdeba sayovelTaod popularuli. is ar gaakares kinos, sul ramdenime epizoduri roli iTamaSa kinoSi, magram iyo popularuli, ise popularuli – bevr kinovarskvlavs rom ar dasizmrebia. is iyo artisti, visi gulisTvisac dadiodnen TeatrSi. visi piradi cxovrebac aRelvebda yvelas, hyvebodnen aTas Worsa da marTals. mas mTeli cxovreba Tan sdevda miTiuri Sleifi... kinos msaxureba ar acales, magram man mainc moixada vali kinos winaSe _ zura yifSiZis dedobiT. genebi: elenes papa ilia WavWavaZis marjvena xeli da TanamebrZoli grigol yifSiZe iyo. deda _ naxevrad poloneli, naxevrad `kazaCka~ rusi gaxldaT. imedi: yvelas egona, rom lena balerina gaxdeboda. arc iyo gasakviri, lena bavSvobidan baletiT iyo gatacebuli. zura yifSiZe: kote maxaraZe da dedaCemi `SCelkunCikSi~ cekvavdnen solos, erTerT did partias, moskovSic iyvnen gastrolebze, lena did TeatrSia nacekvi, bebiaCemi yofila mecxre caze _ `naSa lenaCka tancuet v balSom teatre...~ magram elenem balets drama arCia da Teatraluri institutis damTavrebis Semdeg marjaniSvilis Teatris msaxiobi gaxda. aRiareba? _ maleve, misma gansaxierebulma nuckiam `xarataanT keraSi~ Teatris istoriaSi adgili daimkvidra. scenaze gaimarjva, cxovrebaSi _ damarcxda: pirvel meuRles, erosi manjgalaZes gaeyara. sul male ki 27 wlisam zura yifSiZe gaaCina umamod. marjaniSvilis Teatris msaxiob avTo veruleiSvilisgan. zura yifSiZe: mama Tavs damnaSaved grZnobda, dedaCems araferi mouTxovia misgan, arc Tavidan, arc Semdeg. ar uTxra, ginda Tu ara, ojaxi daangrie da me momiyvaneo... yvelaferi SedarebiT `laiTad~ moxda, sxvagan raRac saSineleba mohyveboda... dedaCemi da mamaCemi sicocxlis bolomde megobrebad darCnen, Cemi gulisTvisac da saerTodac. erT TeatrSi TamaSobdnen da iyo erTi kuriozebi. maxsovs, mamas xSirad aviwydeboda teqsti. deda TamaSobda kintos. erT-erT scenaSi lena cekvavda, avTo unda Semosuliyo da ekiTxa, `saiT midixar~? lena ki mTeli monologiT pasuxobda am kiTxvas. erTxelac mamaCems daaviwyda teqsti da, `nnn~, iZaxis. lena cekvavs, Tan xmadabla eubneba, ra `nnn~, Tqvi biWo.

Tan cekvas agrZelebs _ meore `krugze~ wavida. mamaCemma bolos hkiTxa _ `sada muSaob~? sad unda muSaobdes kinto? lenamac gasca ra pasuxi _ `lixaCovis qarxanaSi, Seni deda vatire~... morigi dartyma: Zma _ giga yifSiZe politikurze daiWires da gaacimbires. 24 wlisa ukve sevastopolis mTavari arqiteqtori iyo. restoranSi mTvrals daniT xruSCovis suraTi dauxevia, isev `qarTvelebs~ CauSviaT da gaucimbirebiaT. moskovSi olimpiadis dros, lena xruSCovis banketze dapatiJes. lena banketis nacvlad xruSCovis xelmowerili am mosawveviT ZmasTan wasula koloniaSi. `koloniis ufrosi gagiJda Turme _ griSka xruSCovis suraTis daxevis gamo zis da imis das xruSCovi saqeifod patiJebso...~ (zura yifSiZe). isev aRmarT-daRmarTi: TeatrSi `maia wyneTeli~ idgmeba, elene yifSiZe maia wyneTels TamaSobs. speqtakli anSlagebis rekords xsnis. elene yifSiZes iwveven erevanSi da somxur enaze TamaSobs maia wyneTels. warmateba Tavbrudamxvevia, magram Teatralur gamarjvebas kinoSi marcxi enacvleba. iReben `maia wyneTels~, rezo CxeiZe lenas atyuebs, rom maia man unda iTamaSos... zura: `maxsovs, lena eubneboda rezo CxeiZes, miTxari, nu damimalav, me Tu ar gadamiRebo. rezo eubneboda, Sen giRebo. bolos operatorma Seamzada lena, rolze leila abaSiZea damtkicebuli, ukve cxenzec ziso. lena mivida rezosTan, is isev eubneboda, Sen giRebo. ojaxebiT axlos viyaviT da albaT, ver umxelda simarTles. lenam uTxra, aba, biZo (biZina CxeiZe _ rezo CxeiZis biWi. _ r.S.) daifice, rom me miRebo. rezom, geficebio, da gaaqana dedaCemma da wyvita saxeSi. am mxriv, cota iseTi ki iyo lena, giJuri, feTqebadi xasiaTis, magram moTmenis didi unari hqonda, Tumca bolos Tu amouvidoda, amouvidoda...~ bedis ucnauroba: aRiarebdnen mis niWs, magram mainc gverds uvlidnen. boboqari temperamentisa da didi gaqanebis artists didad arc TeatrSi anebivrebdnen rolebiT, kinom ki, Tu ar CavTvliT ramdenime epizodur rols, saerTod gverdi auara. arada, Zalian undoda kinoSi gadaReba. zura yifSiZe: dedaCemi saSinlad ganicdida, rom bedma ar gauRima kinoSi. imdenad undoda filmSi gadaReba, rom cxviric ki moiWra amisTvis. maxsovs, 12-13 wlis viyavi da Zalian ganvicade es, kai xani ar velaparakebodi, meTqi, rogor moiWeri Cemi sayvareli cxviri...~ gava wlebi da Tavad elene yifSiZe, Tavis erT-erT bolo interviuSi, ase gaixsenebs sakuTari cxvirisa da kinos urTierTobas: `qarTuli kexiani cxviri mqondadaTeatralurinstitutSiswavlis droidan moyolebuli, sul mTavar rolebs mTavazobdnen kinoSi. Tan iseTi reJisorebi, rogorebic iyvnen Tengiz abulaZe, rezo CxeiZe, SoTa managaZe... gadamiRebdnen kinosinjebs da mere Seicxadebdnen: `ui cxvirio~. ase mTavrdeboda Cemi urTierToba kinosTan, sul ramdenime epizoduri roli viTamaSe filmebSi. mere wopem _ Cemi Zmis axlo megobarma, mirCia, xom xedav, cxviri xels giSlis, modi, cxviri moiWeri, kinoSic gadagiReben da ufro lamazic iqnebi, cxviris grimiT gaz-

meorebel

ifSiZeze rda ki yovelTvis SeiZlebao. mokled, gavikeTe operacia, TeatrSi ale omiaZe da vaso goZiaSvili gadairivnen, es ra Caidine, ras daamsgavse qarTuli cxvirio. axla, damiZaxes rolze kinostudiaSi, reJisor guguli mgelaZesTan. darwmunebuli viyavi, imitom mimiwvies, cxviri rom SevikriWemeTqi. frTxilad SevaRe batoni gugulis kabinetis kari, vxedav _ aranairi sapasuxo reaqcia... mivxvdi, ver micno. `gamarjobaT, batono guguli, elene var yifSiZe~, _ veubnebi, unda genaxaT, rogori miyvira: ra uyavi Seni qarTuli cxviri, qarTuli cxviri mWirdebodao... ise gavmwardi, gulSi gvarianad SevukurTxe wopes. amiT damTavrda Cemi da kinos urTierToba...~ arc pirad cxovrebaSi swyalobda bedi. erosi manjgalaZis Semdeg, mxatvar reziko Tarxanmouravis coli iyo, Semdeg jondo maWavarianis. bolos, gadawyvita, rom ar gamouvida piradi cxovreba da marto cxovrobda. martosulis cxovreba arCia. mere saintereso formulasac miagno: yvela erTad da calcalke. undoda, erT sadarbazoSi, erT sarTulze, calcalke binebSi ecxovraT. oroTaxianSi _ zuras Tavis colSvilTan, erT erToTaxianSi _ TviTon, meoreSi _ debs. hoda, gadawyvita didi binis `daxurdaveba~, amisTvis ki arc meti, arc naklebi, SevardnaZes miadga. SevardnaZe sam binas sTavazobda, lena Tavis binis daxurdavebas sTxovda. zura: `SevardnaZe ver mixvda, ra undoda lenas, ra daxurdavebaze elaparakeboda, gagiJda, romeli makleri is iyo... mainc daaxurdavebina da saburTaloze `SanxaisTan~ erT sarTulze mogvces binebi. Tavidan erTad viyaviT, mere gaviqec-gamoviqeciT da darCa dedaCemi marto, meubneboda, Tqven Tu magas apirebdiT, me sxva adgilas aviRebdi binaso. saSinlad ar uyvarda is adgili, sul mkvlelobebi da qurdobebi xdeboda, orjer lenac gaqurdes, indira gandis naCuqari samkauli mohpares...~ lena marto cxovrobs. Cavlilia axalgazrdoba, roca is Zvel vodevilebSi TamaSobda, axalgazrdoba aRar brundeba, magram brundeba vodevilebi, reJisori gogi TodaZe `isev vodevilebs~ dgams da lenas, arc meti, arc naklebi, kacis _ karapeta dambaRovis rols aZlevs. lena grimiT cxvirs igrZelebs, xmas iboxebs da somexi vaWari xdeba. scenaze furoria, am furoramde Sokia, Soki – samezobloSi. `am rolze muSaobisas Caviketebodi saxlSi da sarkesTan repeticiebs gavdiodi, karapetas boxi xmiT vlaparakobdi da somxuri aqcentiT vmRerodi: `vax, fulebo, fulebo, lamazebo, kargebo~... Turme erTi Cemi mezobeli qali Casafrebulia da ainteresebs, erTi suli aqvs, naxos, vin dadis yoveldRe CemTan. Cemi sayvareli hgonia. erTxelac morig repeticias gavdivar, eSxSi Sevedi da uceb, misi aivnis karis Wriali gavigone. veRar moviTmine, Tavi gavyavi da gavZaxe, ar gadmovardeT, qalbatono, esec me var, isic me varmeTqi...~ _ ase ixsenebda im Soks TviTon elene yifSiZe. ra ver gabeda: manqanis marTvis survili sakmaod gvian gauCnda. dadioda kidec maswavlebelTan, Sinac bevrs `varjiSobda~. zuram gaubazra kidec _ rogor varjiSobda saxlSi lena _ rogor awveboda warmosaxvaSi gazs, `tormuzs~, rogor TiSavda `ceplenies~, rogor qoqavda da rogor axmovanebda am yvelafers. marTvis mowmoba aiRo, magram saWesTan dajdoma mainc ver gabeda. lena verc zurasTan TamaSs bedavs: `vaime ras ambobT, me xom zurasTan TamaSis SemeSindeba?~ elenes sibere wamoewia, magram asakma didi veraferi daaklo. didxans `iparavda~ asaks, Tanac blomad da axla mis maradiul axalgazrdobaze agorda miTebi. zura: sul uyurebdnen, Sramebi xom ar aqvs, saxes xom ar iWimavso, arafers ar iWimavda... sul ekiTxebodnen: lena, ras xmarob egeTs, rom egeTi saxe, kani gaqvso? arafers ar isvamda gansakuTrebuls, ar dadioda aravisTan da `maskebs~ ar ikeTebda. rames isvamda ki ara, wamlis xmareba ar icoda. maxsovs, raRac ferimWamela amouvida, wamali misces, moisvio, lenam mTel saxeze waisva da saxe muxis qerqiviT gauxda...~

lenas recepti: `boRmika ara var! SemiZlia, gulwrfelad Sevnatro adamians, niWiers _ miT umetes. mteric rom iyos, SemiZlia, misi upiratesobisa da Rirsebis danaxva da Sefaseba. erTi ram gaxsovdeT: roca vinmes guls stkenT, misi gSurT an iboRmebiT, maSin Cndeba naoWebi da berdebi~! wlebma mainc Tavisi gaitana, mas foieSi, quCaSi xSirad naxavdiT welSi moxrils, magram scenaze _ arasodes. scenaze asvlisTanave welSi ise iSleboda, makedonels SeSurdeboda, iseTi plastikuri da moqnili xdeboda, aisedora dunkani da maia pliseckaia daiboRmebodnen. am faqts Tavad ase xsnida: `roca scenaze avdivar, raRac axali energiis wyaro mexsneba, ai, `mecxre talRas~ rom eZaxian, scenaze yvela tkivili da wyena maviwydeba...~ 70-s gadacilebulma iTamaSa boroti angelozi lali rosebas `saxlis angelozebSi~, scenaze gamoCenisTanave azri dakarga cnebam _ `asaki~. 80-s iyo mitanebuli, kinomsaxiobTa TeatrSi 20 wlis geiSas rolze rom miiwvies, da maxsovs grimiori anuka murvaniZe SokSi iyo _ didi grimi arc sWirdebao. speqtakli ver Sedga... zura: `rac daemarTa, araswori proTezis gamo daemarTa, ramdenjerme ikbina enaze, `saxlis angelozebis~ TamaSisas, `lukidan~ amosvlisas sarqveli moxvda TavSi da kidev enaze ikbina... sul ar mcalias iZaxda da droze ar mivida eqimTan. ar aqcevda yuradRebas da Camoyalibda simsivne. 7 weli ebrZoda am sens. Tavidan yvelaferi kargad iyo, mkurnalobas daeqvemdebara, gardacvalebamde 4 TviT adre, erTi kvira mogvces mosafiqreblad, Tu sicocxle gindaT, enis erTi mesamedi unda movkveToTo. lenam uari Tqva operaciaze, an Tqven raze gawvaloT, an me raze viwvalo, an rogor vWamo, an rogor vilaparakoo, gagiJda qali, mec gavgiJdi, ena rogor movaWra dedaCems-meTqi... ver warmoedgina, rom aseTi tanjva eqneboda bolos, Torem SeiZleba dagvTanxmeboda. bolo sami Tve verafers Wamda, tkivili ar uyuCdeboda, sityva morfi rom gaigo, ar mindao, bolos ramdenjerme mainc gavukeTeT. saSinlad mwydeba guli, sul mgonia, rom raRac davakeli, raRac ver gavukeTe. es travma, Torem ramdenjerme rom gasinjes, gaognebulebi iyvnen, ver ijerebdnen, rom am asakis zura yifSiZesTan erTad... iyo, axalgazrda organizmi hqonda... deda ki iyo, magram ufro daqali iyo, Cemi yvelaferi icoda, me magisi vicodi, eh...~

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afxazebs rusebis eSiniaT...

afxazur opozicias ruseTis mier afxazeTis eqspansia da asimilaciis perspeqtiva aSinebs. amis Sesaxeb vrcel statias rusuli „nezavisimaia gazeta~ aqveynebs. gamocemis mtkicebiT, ruseTis mier afxazeTis faqtobrivi aTvisebiT gamowveul SiSs afxazeTSi opoziciuri Zalebis ramdenime gancxadeba mohyva. veteran meomarTa kavSirma „aruaam~ „umniSvnelovanesi sakiTxebis gadawyvetaSi prezidentis mier erTpirovnuli gadawyvetilebebis miRebis meqanizmis gauqmeba“ moiTxova. „aruaa“, aseve, aprotestebs rusuli kompaniebisTvis soxumis aeroportisa da afxazeTis rkinigzis gadacemas. maTi mxridan prezidentis gadadgomis moTxovnis safuZveli gaxda sergei baRafSis gadawyvetileba, romliTac afxazeTis sazRvrebis kontrolis ufleba soxumma ruseTs gadasca. rogorc rusuli gazeTi wers, afxazeTSi ukmayofilebas TurqeTSi mcxovrebi afxazuri diasporac gamoexmaura. „opoziciis azriT, afxazeTis dRevandeli xelisuflebis mier gatarebuli politikis Sedegad afxazeTs kvazisaxelmwifod da ruseTis danamatad gadaqcevis safrTxe emuqreba“, _ wers „nezavisimaia gazeta“ gamocemis ganmartebiT, afxazeTis formaluri suverenulobisa da ruseTis mier aTvisebis Tema „veteranma meomrebma“ maSin wamoswies, roca ruseTma afxazeTis damoukidebloba aRiara da sazogadoebis udidesi nawili eiforiaSi imyofeboda. maSin veteranebi acxadebdnen: „Cven saqarTvelos imis gamo CamovSordiT, rom saxelmwifoebrioba da kultura SegvenarCunebina,

axla ki ruseTTan kavSirSi yvelafris dakargvis albaToba didia“. am sakiTxebze saubrisas sergei Sambam „nezavisimaia gazetasTvis“ micemul interviuSi ganacxada, rom mcirericxovan afxaz ersa da saxelmwifos asimilaciis problema marTlac aqvs. Sambam gulaxdilad aRiara, rom „Tu arCevani gardauvalia, gvirCevnia, asimilirebuli viyoT ruseTTan, vidre saqarTvelosTan“. amasTanave, gasuli wlis bolos rusuli bizneselitis mier afxazeTis miwebis SeZena da afxazeTis xelisuflebis gadametebulad prorusuli kursi gazeT „Cegemskaia gazetaSi~, amave gazeTis redaqtorma inal xaSigma gaaprotesta. amis gamo, igi soxumidan qalaqgareT gaiyvanes da scemes. „ukmayofiloebi yovelTvis iqnebian, magram ruseTi Cveni mTavari partniori, usafrTxoebisa da ganviTarebis mTavari garantoria“, _ ganucxada „nezavisimaia gazetas“ martSi moskovSi vizitiT myofma sergei baRafSma. gazeTi SeniSnavs, rom ruseTis mimarT afxazuri xelisuflebis politikiT imaze gacilebiT meti adamiania ukmayofilo, vidre es erTi SexedviT Cans. maT Soris arian iseTebic, romlebic afxazeTSi avtoritetiTa da pativiscemiT sargebloben. maTi warmomadgenlebi xelisuflebas qveynisTvis mniSvnelovani sakiTxebis sajarod ganxilvisken da ruseTTan „WeSmaritad Tanaswori urTierTobebis damyarebisken~ mouwodeben. maTi azriT, Tu afxazeTma ruseTTan amgvari kavSiris damyareba ver SeZlo da urTierTobebi korporaciul, kerZo interesebs daefuZna, maSin isini „afxazeTs daRupvisken ubiZgeben~. `interpresniusi~

baRafSi ukmayofiloa

soxumis marionetuli reJimis lideri sergei baRafSi usafrTxoebis 12-kilometriani zonis Seqmnas aprotestebs. rogorc sainformacio saagento „apsni presi“ iuwyeba, amis Sesaxeb baRafSma didi britaneTis sagareo saqmeTa saministros ruseTis, samxreT kavkasiisa da centraluri aziis departamentis direqtorTan maikl davenportTan soxumSi gamarTul Sexvedraze ganacxada. 32

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Sexvedraze gaero-s generaluri mdivnis angariSis detalebi ganixiles, romelSic generaluri mdivani mxareebs mimarTavs iniciativiT, cecxlis Sewyvetis orive mxares usafrTxoebis 12-kilometriani zona Seiqmnas. „e.w. usafrTxoebis 12-kilometriani zonis Seqmnaze saubaric ki zedmetia“, _ ganacxada baRafSma. man aseve ukmayofileba gamoTqva angariSis im punqtis gamo, sadac Jenevis konsultaciebSi afxazeTi da e.w. samxreT oseTi arasruluflebiani monawileebis statusiT arian moxseniebulni. „Cven es Sexvedrebi gansakuTrebulad arc gvWirdeba da aseTi midgomis fonze, SesaZloa, maTSi monawileobis sakiTxs gadavxedoT“, _ ganacxada sergei baRafSma. gaero-s uSiSroebis sabWos mimarT generaluri mdivnis pan gi munis angariSi gaero-s oficialurma veb-gverdma dRes gamoaqveyna. `interpresniusi~

rezo SatakiSvili is alalbedze gadaurCa rusi `saldaTis~ orlesur niCbebs 9 aprils. is bewvze gadaurCa sikvdils afxazeTis omSi da veRar gadaurCa SarSan ruseTis Tavdasxmas. aleqsandre TandaSvili dRedReze 37 wlis unda gamxdariyo. 19 wlidan moyolebuli forma ar gauxdia _ iyo specrazmeli, mesazRvre, mSvidobismyofeli eraySi, bolos vazianSi msaxurobda da sicocxle cxinvalSi daasrula. iyo im poziciaze, sadac yofnas aravin

da araferi avalebda, mxedruli gulis garda. man Tavis gasavleli gza kacurad gaiara. axlaxan TbilisSi, metro samgorTan, sabagiros quCas misi saxeli mieniWa. Tavad mas _ gorgaslis pirveli xarisxis ordeni... ganisvenebs muxaTgverdis ZmaTa sasaflaoze... oficialurad aleqsandre erqva, deda alikas eZaxda, Zma da meuRle _ alekos... daibada qiziySi, sofel anagaSi, dimitri da lena TandaSvilebis ojaxSi. wlinaxevris iyo, ojaxi rom TbilisSi gadmovida sacxovreblad. deda: `sanzonaSi vcxovrobdiT, skolac aq daamTavra, ver vityvi, rom brwyinavda, magram maswavleblebs Zaan uyvardaT, saSualod swavlobda, ZiudoSi varjiSobda. skolis damTavrebis Semdeg fizkulturis institutSi Caabara, Tan Widaobda~. swored varjiSidan brundeboda, 1989 wlis 8 aprils aqcias rom SeuerTda da zurgze mokidebulma sportulma zurgCanTam rom gadaarCina _ rusi jariskacis moqneuli niCabi CanTam Seakava. niCabs gadaurCa, magram msubuqad mainc moiwamla... deda: `Widaobaze SearCies biWebi da alika aiyvanes specrazm `alfaSi~. me ar mindoda, winaaRmdegi viyavi, magram TviTon ase hqonda gadawyvetili. aseTi iyo, rasac moindomebda, bolomde akeTebda. 19 wlis iyo maSin. mas mere sul jarSi msaxurobda, ojaxSi misi dabadebis dRe aRar gadagvixdia, sul aRma-daRma dadioda. sul veZebdiT. mere daiwyo afazeTis omi, ibrZoda, misi razmidan pirveli daWrili iyo. umZimesi travma miiRo, fexze arteria hqonda gaglejili, marcxena xelze gamavali Wrilobebi... Tve-naxevari iwva quTaisis saavadmyofoSi. erTi operacia, meore... TiTebs ver Slida, fexidan gadaunerges nervebi da gaSala TiTebi, nel-nela gamovida mdgomareobidan...~ daTo TandaSvili, Zma: `alekos afxazeTSi daWris ambavi pirvelad me gavige da gavvardi quTaisSi, 18 wlis viyavi, garegnobiT Zalian

vgavdi alekos da saavadmyofoSi rom Sevedi, eqTnebi TokiT gamomidgnen. egonaT, aleko wamoxta axlad naoperaciebi. mere mixvdnen da palatamde mimaciles, miTxres, jerac ar mosula gonzeo. rom Sevedi, pirvelad gaaxila Tvali da dRemde maxsovs, rom miTxra _ vicodi, pirveli Sen moxvidodio...~ Tve-naxevris Semdeg quTaisis saavadmyofodan gamoweres. TbilisSi Camosuls daxvda _ uSuqoba, utransportoba, upuroba da usulguloba. dedamisi ixsenebs, ra golgoTas gadiodnen sanzonidan isnamde, roca hos-

pitalSi gadaxvevaze midiodnen. metro Cerdeboda, Sesvla Seswrebaze iyo, erTxel memanqanes vTxove, Sexvevaze gvagviandeba, egeb Tqvens kabinaSi SeiyvanoT-meTqi, SemomiRrina, aq yvela daWrilia da me romeli erTi waviyvanoo. rogorc iqna, SevaRwieT vagonSi~... SeaRwies vagonSi, Zlivs dasva _ fexze didxans dgoma ar SeiZleboda, magram viRac dominos TamaSisgan daRlilma biZam `daanamusa~ _ arca grcxvenia, asakovani kaci fexze vdgavar, Sen zixaro. `wamodga, moubodiSa, cocxali TaviT aRar dajda... iseTi wlebi iyo, aravis ainteresebda, Sen rom daWrili iyavi... isev Cadga mwyobrSi. verc am daWram ver Seacvlevina gadawyvetileba. meomrad davibade, me sxva gzas ver avirCevo~. iaraRi bavSvobidan hyvarebia, nebismier iaraRs dagiSlida da agiwyobdao, _ miyveba mamamisi.

Zma, daTo akonkretebs, biZaCemi monadire kacia, imas dahyveboda, sanadiro TofebiT daiwyo iaraRis siyvarulio... mamamiss Tan ecineba, Tan Tvalze cremli adgas, ise ixsenebs, rogor gaakeTa patara alikam Tavisi xeliT mSvildi, Tan iseTi magari, gasrolili isari xeSi Rrmad esobodao. ixsenebs, rogor gaakeTa saerTo koridorSi saniSne da SemTxveviT gamosul mezoblis

qals, rogor Cauwuila alikas nasrolma isarma: `wkipze ascda, Torem adgilze gaaTavebda...~. omis Semdeg sasazRvro jarSi daiwyo muSaoba. swored afxazeTSi naomari biWebis TaosnobiT Camoyalibda sasazRvro jaris swrafi reagirebis razmi _ `motomani~. Semdeg saqarTvelos sazRvrebs icavda. dimitri TandaSvili, mama: `aseTi SemTxveva iyo, Cvenma mesaRvre biWebma daiWires somxeTis mxridan gadmosulebi, romlebic Cvens xetyes Wridnen, 2 `kamazi~ daiWires. biWebma aleko gamogzavnes StabSi, biWebi mogveSvelono, aleko rom wamosula, srola amtydara, erTi qarTveli da erTi somexi daiRupa. mTeli sofeli gadmovida da daesia mesazRvreebs, 4 biWi gakoWes da somxeTSi gadaiyvanes, xeze miabes, cocxlad unda daewvaT. aleko gamoedevna maT, iaraRiT xelSi gadaWra sazRvari, xelyumbara gaxsna, daiWira da Sevida miliciis ufrosTan. imas hgonebia, esec gvbardebao, alekos Cauvlia xeli kiserSi, an am biWebs CamoxsniT, an orive erTad avfeTqdebiTo. sikvdili vis unda? Camoxsnes biWebi, gamoSvebiT ar gamouSves, oTaxSi Seiyvanes erTad, alekos iaraRi mainc ar dauyria, Tu mogvekarebiT, gesvriTo. mere gadavidnen Cvenebi, gamoixsnes, alekos ki sayveduri gamoucxades, iaraRiT ar unda gadasuliyavi sazRvarze, SeiZleba omi dawyebuliyoo... es misi Zmakacebisgan vici, Torem TviTon laparaki ar icoda. rom hkiTxavdi, Svilo, rogoraa saqme, yvelaferi kargadaa, yvelaferi normaluradaao, getyoda. wuwuns ver gaigebdi. amayobda qiziyelobiT~... sasazRvro jarSi msaxurobda, ukve asmeTauri iyo, masze 8 wliT umcrosi, 17 wlis Tamuna rom gaicno. Tamunas biZaSvilis meuRlec mesazRvre iyo, alekosTan erTad msaxurobda foladaurSi, Tamunamac iq gaicno aleko. Tamunas egona, rom alekos, ubralod, moewona da morCa. magram araferic ar morCa. iyo bevri yvavili, siurprizi da 8 Tvis Tavze qorwineba. saCuqrebi da siurprizebi arc qorwinebis mere mouklia meuRlisTvis. `eniT ver avwer, imxela siyvaruli SeeZlo. 10 weli col-qmari viyaviT da erTi wamiT ar Senelebula, ar gacveTila Cveni grZnoba~. alekos erTaderTi qaliSvili darCa _ ana. ana aTi wlisaa da kar-

gad xvdeba, ra tragediac daatyda. aleqsandre TandaSvils vazianSi muSaoba omamde sul raRac 2 TviT adre dauwyia. eraySi yofnisas gaicno da daumegobrda erekle yuloSvils. erekles SeuTavazebia vazianSi gadasvla da saqarTveloSi dabrunebis Semdeg gadasula kidec. Tamuna ixsenebs, rom ivlisis bolos zRvaze wasulan dasasveneblad: `megobrebma movilaparakeT,

rom bavSvebi ar wagveyvana da mxolod meuRleebTan erTad wavsuliyaviT. TbilisSi 3 agvistos CamovediT, bavSvi sofelSi gvyavda gagzavnili da me masTan wavedi, aleko TbilisSi darCa~. Zmas _ daTos aleko swored zRvaze wasvlamde unaxavs da gamomSvidobebis mere, ratomRac mibrunebula da gadaxvevia, albaT, gulma migrZno, rom Cems Zmas bolojer vxedavdio, meubneba. dedas ki aleko bolos swored zRvidan dabrunebuli unaxavs: `sanaxavad movida CemTan, bavSvs, anas dabadebis dRe hqonda, saCuqari gaatana Tamunas. patara sufra gavSale, ana davlocoT-meTqi. marto me, Cemi meuRle da aleko viyaviT. es iyo Cveni bolo Sexvedra, gemrielad gvelaparaka, xan ra mogviyva, xan _ ra. movesiyvaruleT erTmaneTs. maimedebda, yvelaferi kargad iqnebao. saxli ar hqonda, am binaSi ori Zma ver daeteoda, meuRlis mSoblebTan cxovrobda, sesxi aiRo, meuRlis korpusSi mansardaSi farTi SeiZines, bina unda aeSenebina, proeqti Tavisi xeliT daxaza, mamamissac dauxata aq, aseTi saxli unda gavakeToo. meocnebe iyo, Zalian undoda sakuTari saxli hqonoda... me sofelSi gasvenebaSi wavedi, 7 agvistos Camovedi, Camovedi Tu ara telefonis zari iyo. deda, mivdivaro. me megona, poligonze midioda... ise laparakobda, TiTqos Tavis Tavi enaneboda... rom Camoxval, aucileblad SemomexmianemeTqi. aba, ras vizamo. Turme omSi midioda. Cven ar gagvagebina...~ 6 agvistos biZaSvilis safrangeTidan Camosvla aRuniSnavT restoranSi. Tamuna: `gvian damireka, Zalian gaxarebuli iyo, yvela malaparaka. es iyo Cveni bolo laparaki. misula saxlSi, dawolila da Ramis 2 saaTze gamouZaxiaT kidec... me mesxeTSi viyavi, veRar movdiodi, vnerviulobdi, 9 agvistos gavige, rom erekle yuloSvili daRupula, mxolod erekles daRupva gavige, arada, Turme erTad daRupulan 8 agvistos erekle da aleko. veRar moviTmine, wamovedi TbilisSi, mere aq movida samxedro piri vazianidan, visac gardacvlilTa siebi hqonda, miTxra, rom aleko am siaSi iyo...…~ ojaxma icoda, rom aleko daiRupa, magram ar iyo cxedari da arc is icodnen zustad, ra viTarebaSi daiRupa. versiebi mravali iyo _ rom snaiperma esrola; rom dabombvaSi moyva; zogi uyveboda, erekles gamosayvanad Sevidao; zogi _ dainaxa, roca erekle yuloSvili Sedioda, TviTonac Caujda manqanaSi, erekle eCxubeboda, darCio, magram ar miatova da Sehyvao... mamamiss isic mouyvnen, rogor unaxavT aleko da erekle mkvdrebi _ goCa da xviCasaviT... cxedari ver ipoves da dakargulebis siaSic ewera. ojaxs sadRac imedi gauCnda, iqneb tyved Cavardao... noembris bolos `deenemis~ pasuxiT ga­irkva, rom aleqsandre TandaSvili mu­xaTgv­e­rdSia da­saflav­e­buli, rom misi cxedari ma­leve gadm­o ­u ­s ve­n ­e ­b iaT, ma­gram am­ocn­oba ar momxdara. deda: `2008 wlis me­r­ve Tvis rva ri­ c­xvSi da­iRupa Cemi Svili, Cveni binac rva nomeria da misi saflavis nomeric...~ dedamisi maC­

ve­nebs alekos xeliT ufro daxatul, vidre daxazul binis proeqts, tiris da yveba, rogor cdilobs, ar gaeRviZos, roca sizmarSi alikas xe­davs. Tamuna miyveba, rogor tiris RamRamobiT patara ana...

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iasamnisferi – `jeoselis~ dreskodi

`jeoselma~ bunebasTan erTad feri icvala da iasamnisferi gaxda. saqmian enaze Tu vityviT, rebrendingi ganicada. `jeoseli~, evropuli satelekomunikacio gigantis, `Teliasoneras~ 100%-iani sakuTrebaa. rebrendingic `Teliasoneras~ iniciativiT moxda. am kompaniis mobilur operatorebs mTel evraziaSi erTnairi feri da logo eqnebaT. `jeoselis~ axali simbolo iasamnisferi qvaa. rogorc amboben, ukvdaveba qvisgan iqmneba. da `Teliasoneras~ simbolod qvis arCevis ideac saqarTveloSi daibada. rodesac am kompaniis warmomadgenlebi saqarTvelos estumrnen, maspinZlebma mcxeTaSi, qarTul restoranSi waiyvanes, romlis interierSic qva figurirebda. stumrebs moewonaT da kompaniam logotipad qva airCia. axlad Seferili kompaniis saprezentacio miReba `Seraton metexi palasSi~ gaimarTa. wveulebis dreskodi, bunebrivia, iasamnisferi iyo, romelic stumrebis mxolod naxevarma Tu daicva. samagierod, Tavad sastumros foie mTlianad iasamnisfer tonalobasa da iasamnis surnelSi iyo gaxveuli. wveulebaze iasamnisferi detaliT gaerTianebuli, yvela TaobisTvis sayvareli adamianebis fotogamofena moewyo. originaluri fotoebis avtorebi _ mindia midelaSvili da guram wibaxaSvili arian. wveulebaze iasamnisferi natvris xec iyo, sadac stumrebi Tavis mosawvevebze daweril survilebs kidebdnen. stumrebis survilebi mravalferovani iyo _ `jeoselisgan~ ZiriTadad axali modelis mobilur telefons, mogzaurobas, fotoaparatebs, oqros nomrebsa da fuls iTxovdnen. lela wurwumiam Tavis survilSi 5 wlis manZilze 10000-dolariani xelfasi Cawera; rusTavelis Teatris direqtorma, zaal Ciqobavam `jeoselis~ sponsoroba isurva. iasamnis surneliT gabruebul stumrebs simRerebiT `jeostarelebi~ atkbobdnen. bolos tradiciuli tortic gamoCnda. iasamnis surneliT gabruebul stumrebs simRerebiT `jeostarelebi~ atkbobdnen, bolos tradiciuli tortic gamoCnda.

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Wors, TiTqos jeq­s­ ons kanis ki mRerlis pr bo aqvs, mo­ es tegoriulad -samsaxuri ka­ cota xnis wi uaryofs. sul n, gazeTma `s anma~ informacia gaavr ­ cela, rom maiklma samedicino mowmeba gaia Se­ ra da mis sa xe kibos laq ebi aRmoaC ze ines. ki­­bos ujred eb zomisaa, amit i jer mcire omac, eqimeb azriT, maTi is mkurnaloba iZleba. es Se ambavi daemT ­ mo­mRerlis xv evropul t a u­ ­ nes, romel ic ivlisSi r da­ iwyeba. axl a me­fis warmo pop musikis madgenlebs koncertis da or Tavis marTl ganizatorebs eba uwevT, r momRerali j o anmrTeladaa m koncertebi d ar gadaideba. a

anjelinam Tavis mokvla scada holivudSi yvelaze mosiyvarule wyvilis TanacxovrebaSi bzari ga­ Cnda. eWvianma jolim, jenison en­ istonze ieWviana da Tavis mokvla sca­da. miuxedavaT amisa, kanis fe­ stivalis wiTel xaliCaze wyvili fo­tokamerebis win Rimiliani saxiT pozirebda.

cota em gadawyvita, nos duta sxirtlaZ vas da Tavi ki eS Se s r t ea T xniT as mier mayurebeli dut miuZRvnas. male ilavs. sebis Taobas~ ix ba, gadaRebul `jin vruli filmi iqne at mx i l ve r pi si lis es mi ac daviT turaSvi romlis gadaRebas viT apirebs. reJ­ xed kinoscenaris mi , filmSi msaxiobis ad T du­ isorobasTan er bs. saqarTveloSi bad rolsac SeiTavse io rmatebul msax wa is r t ea T ­ as t e 52 premiera iT d em R d n ma n. ve miiCne anebeb, avs sul ar dav amaSa. `Teatrs T Zveleburi sixSiriT s i magram speqtakleb leba warmatebul iZ Se . eb aS am T vi veRar gram dadges Cemgan, ma as eb kinomsaxiobi ar rgi gamova. gadaR ka mi il f m o r i, vic b~. noemberSi daviwye

beqhems sayv areli gamo uCxrikes devid beqhem viqtoriasTvi i ki ambobs, marto s varsebob colisTvis arasodes mi da Cemi magram vis sjera?! axl Ralatiao, a sayvareli gamoCxrikes misi axali _ ungreli manekeni _ marian foga razi. Tavad varskvlavi ir ebuli Woreb wmuneba, Cemze ars­ is lo Woric bo 90% tyuiliao. es bo­ romaa, male roti enebis mogonili d viqtoria Ce arwmundebiT, rodesac mi TamaSis sa naxavad it­ aliaSi Camova o.

srulmetraJiani mxatvruli fi­ lmis proeqtma _ `ganqorwinebis Rame~, hubert balsis fondis granti _ 10 000 evro moipova. filmis scenaris avtorebi TinaTin yaj­ riSvili da goga cxvediani arian, reJisori Tamar sulamaniZe iq­ neba. proeqtis Sinaarsi oTxi wyvilis sasiyvarulo istoriaze mogviTxrobs, romelic oTxive SemTxvevaSi fatalurad mTa­ vrdeba. filmis biujeti 600 aTasi evroa, amitom mogebuli granti gadaRebebis mxolod sawyis etaps moxmardeba. `mTels msoflioSi es Zalian seriozuli grantia, amitom Zalian mniSvnelovania, rom 190 Setanili ganacxadidan, 12 rCeulSi movxvdiT. es erTgvari mxardaWeracaa maTi mxridan, radgan axla sxva fondebic dagvafinanseben~, _ ambobs TinaTin yajriSvili. hubert balsis fondis premia kidev erT qarTul proeqts aqvs miRebuli, 2001 wels aleko ca­ baZem igi filmisTvis – `rene~ moipova. fo­ ndi roterdamis kinofe­ stivals ekuTvnis, rac imas ganapirobebs, rom proeqtis warmatebiT ga­­n­xorcielebis Sem­ Tx­vevaSi, films am fe­ stivalzec miiwveven.

lalis qaliSvili SeeZina

eqscentruli anri Tavis sti­ qiaSia. sazogadoebis ga­­oceba da SokSi Cagdeba misi stil­ ia. amjerad joxaZem ilia WavWavaZis leqsi `bednieri eri~ airCia. musika TviTon dawera da rogorc ambobs, klipSi sigiJeebs sCadis. `kolgotebic ki macvia da iseT uprecedento skan­ dals vamzadeb... baTumSic mivdivar gadasaRebad. ima­ sac getyviT, rom profe­ sionalebi myavs CarTuli, Tumca idea absoluturad me mekuTvnis.~ videorgolis prezentacia inga grigo­ lias `politikuri kvira­ Si~ iqneba.

11 maiss lali totikaSvilma nita gaaCina. aqtiurma dedam ukve samsaxurSi gasvlac moaswro da patara nita ZiZas gadaabara. `didi xniT mainc ver mivatoveb, Zalian pataraa da bunebriv kvebazea. raRacnairad movaxerxeb `SarmSi~ gasvlas.~ saxeli dedikom da mamikom erTad daarqves. patara nita, Tavis sami wlis Zmas, sabas da mamas hgavs. dediko aqebs qaliSvils _ mSvidi bavSvia, Wams da sZinavso. 4 kilo da 300 grami _ nitas dabadeba dedas ar gasWirvebia. male dediko saCuqars miiRebs. `gareT rom gaval, SevarCev rames. giam miTxra, rac ginda imas gaCuqebo.~ lalim wonaSi moimata, Tumca jer daklebaze ver izrunebs. `vici, rom 6 Tve varjiSi ar SeiZleba.~jer ar gadauwyvetia nitas vin monaTlavs. SeiZleba naTliis ampluaSi cnobili modelebic vixiloT. male ixilavT ipodromze moseirne nitas da popularul dedikos. jerjerobiT mesame Svilze fiqri n a a d r e v i a , Tumca gamoricxuli ar aris, rom modelma mesame Svilic gaaCinos.

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avTo CitiZe `mis saqarTvelo 2008~ xaTuna sxirtlaZe `madneulis~ mflobelis, koba nayofias rZali gaxda. saqarTvelos pirveli lamazmanis rCeuli, 19 wlis nika nayofiaa. wyvili ivlisSi jvrisweras gegmavs da did saqorwilo samzadisSia. pirveli lamazmanis titulma xaTunas siyvarulic apovnina. mdidari ojaxi rZals Tavs evleba da qorwilsac pompezurs hpirdeba. savaraudod, qorwili stambulSi, feSenebelur sastumros restoranSi Sedgeba. Tbilisuri restornebi siZis ojaxma daiwuna da dapatiJebul stumrebs specreisiT stambulSi gadaafrenen. qorwils ki braziliidan mowveuli musikosebi da mocekvaveebi gaaformeben. SesaZlebelia maT qorwilSi, romelime cnobili ucxoeli momReralic gamoCndes. xaTuna sapatarZlo kabas qarTvel dizainerebs ar andobs. rogorc amboben, missaqarTvelos sadedoflo kabas milanSi `dolCe da gabanas~ akerineben. faqtia, rom missaqarTvelos titulis Semdeg xaTunas cxovreba radikalurad Seicvala. saqarTveloSi modeloba profesiad ki ara, garTobad iTvleba. es ki pirvel rigSi imis Sedegia, rom ganviTarebuli ar aris modis industria, ar ewyoba xSiri Cvenebebi da honoraric, yvelaze karg SemTxvevaSi, 100-dan 300 dolaramdea. saagentoebi cnobili modelebiT fuls veRar Souloben. samodelo saagentoebSi yvela lamazi gogona didi ocnebebiT midis. yvelas pirze akeria fraza _ minda popularuli da warmatebuli modeli gavxde, minda ucxoeTis podiumzec movxvde. realurad ki lamazi gogonebi saagentoebis daxmarebiT moxdenilad siaruls swavloben, xvdebian maRal sazogadoebaSi da sarfianad Txovdebian. anu, samodelo saagento maT 36

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saSualebas aZlevs, Tavi kargad SefuTon da bedsac ewion. TbilisSi gamarTul Cvenebebze iSviaTad dadis mamakacTa is kategoria, romelsac dizaineris namuSevari ainteresebs. isini, ZiriTadad gogonebis dasaTvaliereblad dadian. xSirad Cvenebebze sadedamTiloebi sasurvel sarZloebs arCeven. mokled, CvenTan gamarTuli defileebi rZlebis konkurs ufro hgavs, vidre modis dResaswauls. dRes samodelo saagentoebi Tavs skola-studiebiT ufro irCenen, sadac patara gogonebs siaruls, metyvelebas, cekvas da plastikas aswavlian. imisTvis, rom qarTuli feSen-biznesis krizisis mizezi gaerkvia, `praimtaimma~ Tbilisis ramdenime samodelo saagentos miakiTxa.

`amsas~ xelmZRvaneli: _ saqarTveloSi `skautingi~ ar arsebobs. quCaSi mimaval lamaz gogos rom modeloba SesTavazo, SeiZleba CanTa Cagartyas TavSi. 6-7 wlis win, samodelo saagento _ qorwinebis saxlTan asocirdeboda. gogona imitom xdeboda modeli, rom dapiarebuliyo qalaqSi, `svetski sastavSi~ moxvedriliyo da kargad gaTxoviliyo. axla Cvens saagentoSi kontraqtebis sistema arsebobs. iwarmoeba xarjTaRricxva, _ ra Tanxa daixarja modelze. Tu modelma sxvadasxva mizniT kontraqti daarRvia, magaliTad _ gaTxovda, maSin is solidur jarimas da masze daxarjuli Tanxis ormag raodenobas ixdis. saagentoSi mosul gogonas sami Tve vakvirdebiT, ram-

ana koSaZe

lika kvaracxelia _ modeli

levan mWedliZe, samod足 elo saagento `leonis~ gen足 eraluri menejeri: _ yvela gogos, romelic saagentoSi modis, surs, popularuli modeli gaxdes. roca siyvaruli Tavbrus axvevs, maSin ukve karieraze naklebad fiqroben. qarTveli modelebi sazRvargareT ver gadian da warmatebas ver aRweven, amaSi damnaSave maTi aRzrda da kompleqsebia. samodelo biznesSi Tamami unda iyo da gambedavi, rom warmatebas miaRwio. saqarTveloSi modeloba hobia da ara profesia. jiji rejini _ saagento

denad seriozulad ekideba am profesias da mxolod Semdeg viwyebT intensiur muSaobas. Cveni saagento seriozulad muSaobs ucxoeTze da amitom, mxolod seriozuli karieris msurveli gogonebi gvWirdeba. samodelo saagento TbilisSi ver amarTlebs. Cveni saagento mxolod iseTi saxeebis moZiebazea orientirebuli, romlebic warmatebas moipoveben sazRvargareT. magaliTisTvis _ anuki areSiZec sakmarisia. wavida parizSi, milanSi, da seriozul warmatebasac miaRwia. ubralod, kaxi kalaZe Seuyvarda da gaTxovda. aq

ukve yvela uZluri aRmoCnda. miuxedavad amisa, ar vTli, rom anukam Tavis momavals zurgi aqcia. man imas miaRwia, rac undoda. gaxda warmatebuli qali da ipovna didi siyvaruli. Tqven ar iciT, ra xdeboda anukaze, sanam gaTxovdeboda. kargi maWankaliviT mirekavdnen da anukas gacnobas mTxovdnen. es mxolod saqarTveloSi Tu moxdeba. *** lika kvaracxelia samodelo saagento `natalis~ erT-erTi pirveli Taobis modelia. mas Tavis droze did momavals uwinaswarmetyvelebdnen. relurad ki, Tavisi modelobiT popularoba da Semdeg siyvaruli moipova. misi erT-erTi interviu, cnobilma fexburTelma murTaz Seliam waikiTxa, moewona lika,

lika kvaracxelia 足restornis xelmZRvaneli coladac moiyvana da ukve sami Svilic hyavT. yofili modeli axla restoran `monopolis~ xelmZRvanelia. `13 wlidan daviwye modeloba. maSin uamravi dizaineri arsebobda. xandaxan dReSi orjer gamovdiodiT Cvenebebze. mere yvelaferi gaCerda. erTi periodi, Cemi samodelo honorariT ojaxsac ki vinaxavdi. dRes ki stimuli modelobisTvis naklebadaa. is, rom me modeloba ar gavagrZele, gaTxovebis brali ar aris. Tundac Tako CxeiZis magaliTi aviRoT. _ man gaTxovebis Semdeg ufro meti gaakeTa kari-

eraSi. Tako modelad aris dabadebuli, me ki, albaT, naklebi interesi mqonda. saqarTveloSi iseTi Cvenebebi ar ewyoba, rom guli dagwydes da mudmivad formaSi yofna Rirdes.~ ana koSaZe saagento `natalis~ erT-erT yvelaze mimzidvel da perspeqtiul modelad iTvleboda. 15 wlis asakSi, misi podiumze gamoCena, ovaciebisa da imedebis momtani iyo. qarTveli lamazmani male gaTxovda da dRes, mxolod mniSvnelovan CvenebebSi monawileobs. `xSiria SemTxveva, rodesac perspeqtiuli modeli, ojaxis Seqmnis Semdeg, samodelo momavalze uars ambobs. me isedac ar vapirebdi gamomeyenebina Cemi Sansebi da sazRvargareT wavsuliyavi. amitom ver vityvi, rom gaTxovebam Cemi gegmebi Secvala. modeloba mainc hobis doneze rCeba da Znelia amas profesia uwodo. ver vityvi, imitom daviwye modeloba, rom kargad gavTxoviliyavi, magram bevri gogo amaze seriozulad fiqrobs. Tumca, isic unda vaRiaro, rom Cems momaval qmars, podiumze movewone da mere gamicno~. zogierTi cdilobs, damo足 ukidebeli modelis statusi SeinarCunos, radgan Tvlis, rom es finansurad ufro xelsayrelia. damoukidebeli modeli _ laSa jafariZe, ukve 8 welia am sferoSia. Tvlis, rom gogonebTan SedarebiT, biWi modelebis mdgomareoba ufro rTuladaa. laSa jafariZe: _ romelime samodelo saagentosTan kontraqtiT yofna gamarTlebulad ar mimaCnia. araviTari daintereseba ar modis saagentosgan, mxolod madlobebiT ki ver icxovreb. 8 wlis ganmavlobaSi podiumidan mxolod 550 dolari maqvs naSovni. aqedan Cans, ra situaciaa Cvens samodelo biznesSi. gogonebis SemTxvevaSi odnav kargi situaciaa, maTze ufroa moTxovna, vidre biWebze. yvelaze kargi situacia maka asaTianis periodSi iyo. man modelebis honorarebic ki aswia da is, rom dRes podiumze gamosas-

laSa WafariZe vlelad honorarze vaWroba 100 dolaridan iwyeba, makas damsaxurebaa. saerTod, ra modazea saubari, rodesac Cvenebebze mxolod imaze laparakoben, vis ufro kargi mkerdi aqvs, vin gasuqda, vinaa gasaTxovari... Cvenebebze mayureblis 70 procenti imisTvis modis, rom gogo Seafasos da SeaTvalieros. imis gamo, rom saqarTveloSi modelebs profesiuli perspeqtiva naklebad aqvT, isRa darCeniaT _ kargad gaTxovdnen. gaTxovebam bevri perspeqtiuli modeli gaaqro podiumidan.

levan RvinianiZe wina `viqendze~ fexburTSi saqarTvelos Cempioni gamovlinda. erovnuli tradiciebis Tanaxmad, arc am movlenas Cauvlia skandalisa da miTqma-moTqmis gareSe. `vit jorjias~ gaCempionebis logikurobasa Tu samarTlianobaze msjelobas aq ar daviwyeb. ubralod, erT saxasiaTo movlenaze gagiziarebT Cems Sexedulebas. dartanianisa da muSketerebis cnobilma frazam, rogorc bevrma msoflio fenomenma, CvenTan sakmao saxecvlileba ganicada. `yvela erTis winaaRmdeg~ – rac davibade, sul asea da eWvi maqvs, rom mTeli es gaugebroba maincdamainc Cemi dabadebisas ar dawyebula, saTave ufro adreul warsulSi aqvs.

nisis `sionisa~ da `vit jorjias~ TamaSi, romelic aw ukve Cempionma angariSiT 4:3 moigo, bolniseli mayureblisTvis saocrad Seuracxmyofeli gamodga. saqme iqamdec mivida, rom gulSematkivrebma sakuTari gundis fexburTelebze _ sityvierad, fexburTelebma ki sapasuxod lamis muStebiT gaiwies. es pirveli SemTxveva ar yofila, presa manamdec werda araerTi matCis saeWvo reputaciaze. `dinamomac~ araerTxel aRniSna msajebis mxridan maTi gundis mimarT usamarTlo midgomis Sesaxeb. bolnisuri matCi ki, ubralod, zedmetad maRali Teatraluri Rirebulebis gamo gaxda mayureblis aRSfoTebis mizezi. es logikuricaa, warmoudgenelia, gubaz sanikiZis momxreebma

Cumi Tanxmoba qulebis Casawerad saukeTeso saSualebaa. aqac da iqac. Semdeg yvela mwvrTnelsa Tu gundis prezidents ukvirs, ratom agebs nakrebi. ratom banZdebian qarTuli gundebi evropaSi. yvela ambobs, rom xsna mis pirovnebaSi imaleba, ubralod, mas gasaqans ar aZleven. yvelgan asea. aqac da iqac. sabolood imas viRebT, rom ******idan amoyvinTvas mxolod maSin vaxerxebT, roca Zalian Rrmad veflobiT da fskers fexs davkravT. amovyvinTavT, haers movimaragebT, SeiZleba vinmes movugoT kidec da roca imedi unda

qarTuli paralelebi

saqarTvelos saiubileo, me-20 Cempionati, aseve, saiubileo damoukideblobis wlis politikur movlenebs TiTqmis yvela ZiriTad aspeqtSi gaWrili vaSliviT hgavs. rogorc gansxvavebuli xedvis partiebi _ mTavrobas, ase erTiani ZalebiT ekveTnen Tbilisis `dinamos~. CempionatSi TiTqmis yvelam raRac daTmo `dinamos~ oqros medlebis gareSe dasatoveblad. partiebis SemTxvevaSic asea, rasac da ra donezec me vxedav. Cempionatis bolos wina turSi bol-

didxans aitanon nino burjanaZis gverdiT maTi lideris dgoma, rac unda sanukvari iyos maTi erTobis mizani. politikosTa mxridan `bilwT ar Savekvri zaviTa~-s Zaxili, safexburTo SeTqmulebis monawileTa mier Fair Play-s, anu patiosani TamaSis principebiT spekulirebas hgavs. qarTul fexburTSi, iseve, rogorc politikaSi, uamravi binZuri adamiani trialebs. umetesobam kargad icis erTmaneTis codvebi da amadac duman. zogisTvis ki maTi

mitingebis dros lombardebs klientebi moumravldnen xaTuna mgalobliSvili opozicia amtkicebs, rusTavelis prospeqti ekonomikas ki ara, mixeil saakaSvils gadavuketeTo. sul tyuilad. ekonomikurma krizisma rusTavelzec `CaiSxuila~ da xalxic Tan waiyola. Tan yvela erTi mimarTulebiT – lombardebisken. mZRolebis umravlesoba opozicias gzebis gadaketvebis gamo lanZRavs. igive gzebis gadaketvebisa da krizisis Seqmnis gamo opozicias lombardis mepatroneebi locaven. mokled, droa aseTi – yvela saTavisod cdilobs. lombardSi saxeebi mainc Sewuxebuli aqvT da `SeTqmulebiviT~ marto erT pasuxs iZlevian: Cvenc iseve gviWirs, rogorc qveyanaso. Riad saubrisgan Tavs ikaveben, arc mo-

gebaze surT laparaki da arc im nivTebis bedze, romlebsac yoveldRiurad ibareben. _ SeiZleba axla, aseT dros vinmem rame moigos? SeiZleba. da ai, ratom. lombardebi, oqros birJa da avtolombardebi adastureben, rom gaizarda klientura. aseve, gaizarda iseTi klientebis raodenobac, romlebic gamosasyids veRar ixdian da manqanebs an Zvirfas nivTebs `sasacilo Tanxad~ kargaven. eqsperimenti CavatareT: aviReT oqros ramdenime nakeToba da sam sxvadasxva lombardSi mivitaneT. nivTebSi samivegan sxvadasxva fasi SemogvTavazes. pekinze gram oqros 11 dolarad ibareben. oqros birJasa da mis mimdebare lombardebSi oqros xarisxis mixedviT afaseben. magaliTad, Zveli, rusuli na-

daibados, isev ukan... jer yelamde da Semdeg fskerisken. ubedurebaa isic, rom bevrisTvis Cemi zeda abzaci ufro Seuracxmyofeli da uzrdeluria, vidre bilwTa da gulgrilTa aliansi. ar vici, ramdenad moewonebaT `dinamosa~ da mTavrobas am werilSi maTi Sedareba, Tumca dameTanxmebiT, aris maT Soris raRac msgavseba. erTi 1981 wliT amayobs, meore 2003-T. `dinamos~ winaaRmdeg SeTqmuli gundebis yvela fexburTeli mainc `dinamoSi~ TamaSze

keTobis erT grams 13 dolarad iReben. yvelaze Zviri bajaRloa _ grami 21 dolari. pekinze Cveni oqros nivTebis sruli Tanxa 300 dolari gamovida. oqros birJaze igive nakeTobebSi 380 dolari SemogvTavazes, xolo lombard Sps `briliantSi~, romelic oqros birJasTan axlos mdebareobs – 340 dolari. Cabarebis SemTxvevaSi formdeba xelSekruleba. xelSekrulebaSi miTiTebulia, rom yovelTviurad unda gadaixadoT garkveuli safasuri. es Tanxac yvelgan sxvadasxvaa. pekinze mTliani Rirebulebis 10 procentia. anu Cvens SemTxvevaSi 30 dolari gamodioda. Sps `briliantSi~ yovelTviurad 7 dolaris gadaxda mogiwevT. procentis gadasaxadis dagvianeba jarimdeba dRiurad. anu yoveli gadacilebuli dRe sxvadasxva lombardSi sxvadasxva Tanxad fasdeba. yvelaze meti siZvire oqros birJasTan mdebare lombardebSia. dRe – 0,17 procenti. sami dagvianebuli dRis mere banksac da lombardsac ufleba aqvT, nivTebi gayidon. Tumca aris gamosavali – TxovniTi gancxadebis dawera. aseT SemTxvevaSi Tqven kidev `gCuqnian~ aT dRes, Tumca werilSi piroba unda dadoT, rom aT dRes ar gadaacilebT. pirobac pirobiTia. aTi dRis Semdegac Tu ver SeZlebT sakuTari nivTebis `gadarCenas~, isini `ikargeba~. rogorc oqros birJaze amboben, ZiriTadad yvela lombards sakuTari `wertili~ an sakuTari oqromWedeli hyavs, sadac gadauxdelobis SemTxvevaSi Tqveni nivTebi moxvdeba. ZiriTadad ki, `dauxsneli~ oqroebi isev oqros birJaze midis. swored iq amboben, rom am

ocnebobs. fexburTelTa didi nawili ki, isev `dinamos~ aRzrdilebi, gundidan wasulebi, ufro xSirad ki gaSvebulebi arian da aris am ambavSic raRac paralelebis gavlebis saSualeba. ra vici, Tu gnebavT, nu gaavlebT. P.S. imave turSi, roca `sionma~ da `vit jorjiam~ speqtakli dadges, `dinamo~ zugdidSi iqaur mglebTan damarcxda. damarcxda fexburTSi da patiosnad. es arc Tu ise Znelia. Turme...

bolo dros, gansakuTrebiT mas Semdeg, rac aqciebi da `areulobebi~ daiwyo, bevri Cabarebuli, igive `dalombardebuli~, nivTi Sevida maTTan. am SemTxvevaSi mogeba lombards rCeba. mogeba ki, rogorc oqros birJaze gviTxres, sakmaod seriozulia. Tu gram oqros 13 dolarad ibareben, anu 20-21 larad (esec saukeTeso SemTxvevaSi), igive oqros, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, 30 larad (erT grams) yidian. im SemTxvevaSi, Tu Cven oqros nakeTobebs 300 dolarad (sul 24 grami) CavabarebdiT da veRar `davixsnidiT~, lombardi mas, savaraudod, isev oqros birJaze gaitanda gasayidad da 24 gram oqroSi daaxloebiT 437 dolars aiRebda, anu 137 dolari mogeba darCeboda. lombardebSi oqros birJaze an bankSi wasvlas ar girCeven, igive Tanxas SemogTavazeben, rasac axla Cven gaZlevTo. Tumca ase ar aris. cotaTi, magram mainc metad fasdeba oqro birJaze. erTi aTeuliT naklebad ki _ bankSi. bankSi procentis gadaxdis dagvianebis SemTxvevaSi TxovniTi gancxadebis dawera namdvilad ar giSveliT. Cabarebuli nivTebi procentis gadauxdelobis SemTxvevaSi, ubralod, iyideba. oqros `dalombardebasTan~ SedarebiT axali da kidev ufro momgebiani biznesia avtolombardebi. TbilisSi is sul ramdenimea. erT-erTi, romelic oqros birJasTan iyo axlos, gauqmda. dRes iq marto oqros ibareben. mizezad ki Tanxis uqonlobas asaxeleben, manqanis Cabarebis SemTxvevaSi Tanxa ar gvaqvs, rom gavceTo. avtolombardebSi mogeba ufro didia. vakeSi, kekel-

iZeze mdebare avtolombardSi saubrisas aRniSnes, rom Zalian xSiria SemTxvevebi, roca manqanebi ukan veRar gahyavT da kargaven. pirobebi iqac mkacria. manqanis Sefasebis Semdeg formdeba samTviani xelSekruleba. manqana gadadis konkretuli avtolombardis sakuTrebaSi (sanam xelSekruleba ZalaSia). pirvel TveSi, ixdiT manqanis Rirebulebis 15 procents, momdevno or TveSi ki _ aTaTs. pirobebi gansxvavebulia. Tqven SegiZliaT manqana `daalombardoT~, magram ar datovoT da Cveulebrivad isargebloT misiT. am SemTxvevaSi Sefasebuli Tanxis naxevars aiRebT. aseve, SegiZliaT, avtolombardis avtofarexSi gaaCeroT manqana, anu dalombardebis SemTxvevaSi Tqveni manqaniT ar isargebloT, samagierod miiRebT Sefasebuli Tanxis maqsimums. orive SemTxvevaSi manqana gadadis avtolombardis sakuTrebaSi. eqsperimentad isev Cveni manqana gamoviyeneT. avtolombard `jeo-privat-jgufSi~ manqana 7 aTas dolarad Segvifases. anu SegveZlo agveRo 3 aTasi dolari, im SemTxvevaSi, Tu manqanas davitovebdiT, an 6 aTasi, Tu manqanas avtolombardis garaJSi davayenebdiT. yovelTviuri procenti ki ase gamovidoda – pirveli Tve 1050 dolari, danarCeni ori Tve – 700 dolari. gadauxdelobis SemTxvevaSi sami dRe sajarimoa, ai, mere ki manqanas yidian da aseTi faqti, rogorc iq Tqves, bolo ramdenime TveSi ukve 100 iyo. anu am konkretul avtolombardSi bolo ramdenime TveSi 100-ma adamianma ver daixsna manqana da `dakarga~. orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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franguli namcxvari _ `kiSi~

comi: 180gr fqvili, 130gr karaqi, naxevari Cais kovzi mari­ li, 3-4 kovzi civi wyali. vurevT erTmaneTSi da vacxobT 15-20 wuTi. Semdeg calke viRebT 200gr wvrilad daWril bekons, 200gr `Cedaris~ gaxexil yvels da vurevT erTmaneTSi. miRebul masas vdebT ukve gamomcxvar comze. 300gr naRebs, 2kvercxs da cota sokos avTqvefT erT­ maneTSi da davasxamT zemodan. SevdgamT RumelSi da gamo­ vacxobT, vidre zeda fena ar gamagrdeba da gaoqrosfrdeba. miirTmeva cxlad. 1 porcia _ 8 kaczea.

ani pirveli vika buxnikaSvili kinomcodnea, daTo darCia ki msaxiobi. daTo Tavisi profesiiT agrZelebs saqmianobas, vikam ki tortebis cxoba sul ramdenime xnis win daiwyo da TiToeuli maTgani xelovnebis nimuSad aqcia. ar moewona misi SvilisTvis saCuqrad motanil tortze barbis plastmasis Tojina da misi SaqriT gakeTeba gadawyvita. marcipanis pirveli torti

megobrisTvis daamzada. mas fexsacmlis forma misca. iseTi saintereso da originaluri gamovida, rom idea ideaze ibadeboda: CanTa, skivri, fotoalbomi, Tojina, zardaxSa... maT damzadebas minimum 2 dRe sWirdeba. es yvelaferi ki dedisgan iswavla. `es saqme Sromatevadia, magram did siamovnebas maniWebs. TiToeuli maTgani xom naxatia~. – ambobs vika, Tumca am did siamovnebas erTi uxerxulobac axlavs

– amdeni Sromis Semdeg es xelovnebis nimuSebi swrafadve iWmeva. daTo tortebis gakeTebaSi ar exmareba, radgan Tvlis, rom rac ar ici _ is arc unda akeTo. samagierod, samzareuloSi orive siamovnebiT trialebs. `daTo Zalian kargad flobs qarTul samzareulos, –ambobs vika. – me ki saSinelebac rom gamomivides, daTos mainc Zalian moswons da gemrielad miirTmevs.~

pirveli urTierT simpaTiac kulinarias ukavSirdeba: `rodesac daTo gavicani, erT saRamos, telefonze saubrisas vkiTxe, saxlSi ras akeTebmeTqi. daTom miTxra, rom mTeli dRe Tavisi specreceptiT kvercxebs Rebavda. Zalian momewona is, rom masac SeeZlo samzareuloSi raRacebis keTeba da pirveli simpatiac gaCnda. mas mere es saqme ojaxSi Tanabrad gvaqvs gadanawilebuli.~

vikam mogvianebiT tortebis SekveTebzec daiwyo muSaoba da garToba profesiad eqca. franguli kulinaria da sakonditro saqme Seiswavla. axla megobarTan erTad tortebis studiac gaxsna. axali profesiis SeZeniT xelovnebasTan kavSiri ar Seuwyvetia da miaCnia, rom misi axali saqmec gamoyenebiTi xelovnebaa. daTom da vikam erTad pirvelad daamzades torti specialurad `praimtaimisTvis~.

feradferadi koqteilebis samyaroSi Tornike yajriSvili klasikuri koqteili klasikur koqteilSi xuTze meti sasmelis Sereva dauSvebelia. codna, siswrafe, Sinagani kultura da stili, anu xelwera, es is aucilebeli Tvisebebia, romelic momaval barmens unda gaaCndes. barmenisTvis daxls iqiT mdgari yvela adamiani Cveulebrivi stumaria, mniSvneloba ara aqvs bankSi muSaobs Tu ubralo muSaa. `sisxliani meri~ pirvelad koqteili niu-iorkSi, 1806 wlis maisis cnobarSi `Balance and Columbian Repositoty~ axsenes. am sasmels aseTi ganmarteba hqonda _ mastimulirebeli liqiori. dRes specialistebi koqteils mcirealkoholian sasmels eZaxian, romelic ramdenime ingredientisgan Sedgeba. koqteili ori saxisaa, Zlieri da sadeserto. baris pirveli damaarsebeli da koqteilebis avtori jeri-tomasia. mis mier Seqmnili 60 klasikuri koqteili msoflios yvela qveyanaSi dResac erTnairad mzaddeba. 38

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koqteili `praimtaimi~

barmenTa asociaciaSi, eqskluziuri koqteili _ `praimtaimi~ daamzades. mis mosamzadeblad es in­ gredientebi gamoiyenes: 20 gr. broweulis sirofi, 30 gr. romTan Sereuli naRe­ bi da 30 gr. wiTeli arayi.

interviu vaxo babunaSvilTan levan RvinianiZe Tbilisi Open Air-ze ukve sakmaod davwereT. am festivalis Sesaxeb, albaT, yvelam gaigeT. mediidan Tu ara, saxlSi gvian dabrunebuli axalgazrda mezoblis mxiaruli emociebidan mainc. jer Sardenze, Semdeg ki ipodromze gamowrTobili Tavisufleba male moedo mTel qalaqs. Tavisuflebis aseTi xarisxiani zeimi qarTul realobaSi ar maxsendeba. musikalur industriaSi met-naklebad Caxeduli adamiani maleve mixvdeboda hipurisa da eleganturis miqss. aCiko guledanisa da vaxo babunaSvilis alternatiuli muti, giorgi nadareiSvilis daxvewili xarisxiT. daaxloebiT ase SeiZleba Sefasdes festivali, romelic momaval wels isev dabrundeba... Tumca sakuTar sakeTebels mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi patiosnad gaakeTebs. vaxo babunaSvili / Soft Eject /

Step Records: `mixaria, rom yvelaferma kargad Caiara, seriozuli problemebisa da eqscesebis gareSe. me vinc Semxvda, maTi sruli umravlesoba kmayofili da gaxarebuli iyo. kmayofilebi iyvnen musikosebic, iyo bevri madloba da isev dabrunebis survili. sabolood, aRmoCnda, rom Tbilisi Open Air-ma stumrebsac da maspinZlebsac didi gamocdileba SesZina. amdeni Tavisufali musikosi TbilisSi, ase erTad, arasodes Camosula. saintereso detali iyo isic, rom qarTvelebi da rusebi danarCeni feradi masisgan mainc mkveTrad gamovirCeodiT. Cven mainc erTi sivrcidan wamosulebi varT da kulturul evropasTan integracia gvWirdeba. aseTi RonisZiebebis plusic esaa. Tavidan Cven CvenTvis visxediT, rusebi _ TavisTvis. Semdeg ki nel-nela yvela gaixsna. amiT imis Tqma minda, rom festivali ar aris mxolod msmenelisTvis, es musikosisTvisac Zalian saWiro movlenaa. geZleva saSualeba, scenaze kargi musikosi naxo, Seni Tavi aCveno, gqondes pirdapiri urTierToba da sabolood, es piradi kavSirebi isev saerTo saqmes waadgeba. magaliTad, Cven Zalian dagvexmara adamianuri urTierTobebi Tundac am festivalis organizebaSi~. stumrebi xalxSi, albaT, yvelaze didi mowoneba, The Dhol Foundation, Transglobal Underground, Dubstepler da The

Haggis Horns-ma daimsaxures. maTgan xalxma gansakuTrebuli energia miiRo. Tumca gamomdinare isev da isev Semsruleblebisa da xalxis mravalferovnebidan, yvelas hyavda Tavisi favorioti 3 dRis ganmavlobaSi. TviTon musikosebi Zalian saintereso tipebi arian. vecadeT, SemoqmedebiTad maRali donis xalxi Camogveyvana. SeiZleba isini milionian honorarebs ar iReben, magram musikis mimarT maTi damokidebuleba bolomde marTali da xarisxi-

ania. zogierTi monawilisTvis SeiZleba es yvelaze xalxmravali gamosvla iyo, Tumca amis paralelurad maT uzomod didi gamocdileba umagrebT zurgs, risi gaziarebac yovelTvis uxariaT da siamovnebT. Cveni stumrebis didi nawili klubebSi moRvaweobs, es is xalxia, romelTa azrebic jer patara sardafebSi ibadeba, Semdeg ki masobriv gemovnebas qmnis. darwmunebuli var, ramdenime monawiles sakmaod didi momava-

orkestrSi da Semdeg warmoadgenen konkretul mimarTulebas. aq ar iyo Sejibris momenti _ vin vis ajobebs. pirvel rigSi, es Tavisufleba ganasxvavebs TOA-s `evroviziisgan~. aq mTavaria, vin esiamovneba msmenels~.

li aqvs. gamomdinare maTi axalgazrduli SemarTebidan da musikis mimarT jansaRi damokidebulebidan~. qarTvelebi `festivalis Semdeg erT-erTi moTxovna, rac internetSi vnaxe, iyo: ufro meti qarTuli bendi. es Cveni didi survilicaa da velodebi im dros, roca, rac SeiZleba meti qarTuli jgufi SeZlebs maRal doneze gamosvlas. Tuki am etapze kidev arsebobs gamocdilebis nakleboba, msgavsi RonisZiebebi qarTvel msmenelsa da Semsrulebels erTad gazrdis. aqamde orive moklebuli iyo praqtikas. ise, cota ucnauri ki iyo, rom dapatiJebuli musikosebidan Zalian cota movida festivalze. me miWirs amis axsna. SeiZleba es gemovnebis sakiTxia, magram mainc ara mgonia, vTqvaT, britanuli Ten Bears-is moyvaruls siamovneba ar mieRo igive islandiuri Cynic Guru-s mosmeniT, romlis wevrebic, pirvel rigSi, maRali donis musikosebi arian, ukraven islandiis erovnul

momavali: `momavali wlis festivalze ukve vzrunavT. saerTod, am proeqtze didi xania, vmuSaobT, 2 weli ideas vamuSavebdiT. sadRac Svidi Tve ki ukve am konkretulze viyaviT gadmorTulebi. marTalia, presaSi ukve gaCnda raRac versiebi, rom festivali 27 milioni dajda da saswrafo wesiT gavakeTeT, konkretuli politikuri miznebiT. Tumca saqmeSi odnav Caxeduli adamianic mixvdeba, rom aseT rames marTalia, 27 milioni ar sWirdeba, magram verc 2 dReSi an Tundac 2 TveSi ver gaakeTeb. realurad festivalis xarji milion dolars ar ascilebia. unda aRiniSnos Tbilisis meriisa da kulturis saministros didi daxmareba organizaciul sakiTxebSi. roca raRacas pirvelad akeTeb, rTulia sponsorebisTvis amis axsna. suraTebsa da magaliTebs damajerebloba aklia. am mimarTulebiT saxelmwifo struqturebis daxmareba Zalian wagvadga. saerTod, verafers vxedav cuds imaSi, Tu, politikuri xedvis miuxedavad, saxelmwifo gamoxatvis Tavisuflebisa da evropul RirebulebebTan daaxloebis mxardamWreri iqneba. sabolood, miviReT is, rom erTiani ZalisxmeviT Catarda festivali, rac momavali wlis saqmes mniSvnelovnad gagviadvilebs~.

qurumi gogonas mumia saqarTveeloSi dea TavberiZe

Tbilisis xelovnebis muzeumSi egvipteli gogos mu­ mia inaxeba, romelic me-19 sau­ kuneSi kairodan Camoi­ tanes. is, qarT­ velma

mog­ zaurma da diplomatma giorgi avaliSvilma, 2000 oqrod SeiZina. eqspedicia, romelSic avaliSvilma miiRo monawileoba _ egvipteSi, pe­

terburgis akademiam dagegma. Tavad avaliSvili ki saqarT­ velodan peterburgSi wargza­ vnili despani iyo... marina dgebuaZe _ aRmosav­ luri koleqciebis kuratori: `es qurumi gogonas mumiaa, romelsac Taxarisi hqvia. igi Cvens wel­ TaRricxvamde meSvide saukuniT TariRdeba. rogorc sarkofagis warweriT gaxda cno­ bili, qurumi gogona qalRmerT mutis msaxuri iyo. sainteresoa is faqtic, rom sarkofags warweris ori fena aqvs. aqedan gamomdinare, SeiZleba vivaraudoT, rom es sarkofagi qurum gogonamde sxva mumias ekuTvnoda...~

mumifikaciis meTods, anu gardacvlili adamianTa sxeulis mudmivad Senaxvis saidumloebas, egviptelebi, jer kidev Cvens welTaRricxvamde flobdnen. Zveli egviptelebi mumificirebas faraonebs, maRali rangis moxeleebs da qurumebs ukeTebdnen, Semdeg specialuri yuTiT sarkofagSi inaxavdnen.

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me var me var saintereso paradoqsi

Cemi inspiraciis wyaroa – yvelaferi, rasac vxedav, vkiTxulob, vusmen, vgrZnob, rac mesizmreba. Cemi sayvareli musikosi Zalian bevri, uamravi, gamovyof: Autechre, Biosphere, Bjork, Einstürzende Neubauten, Erik Satie, Jeff Mills, Losoul, Matt John, Pan Sonic, Sergej Rachmaninoff, Soulphiction, Steve Reich, Michael Jackson

bednieri var rodesac ca lurjia; rodesac _ bavSvebi icinian; rodesac vxedav, rom erTmaneTi uyvarT; rodesac Cems mSoblebs da das vesaubrebi; rodesac _ didi xnis ganSorebis Semdeg, Cems megobar nias vxedav.

natuta bagrationi 15 wlidan am sferoSi aqtiurad muSaobs. mariam murusiZe, igive DJ spring-i axla 20 wlisaa da eleqtronuli musikis samyaroSi misi saxeli, Tbilisis festivalebze ki ara, ukve germaniaSic cnobilia.

mravalferovani, romlis emocia aqamde aRwevs da martoobas mimsubuqebs. CanTaSi yovelTvis midevs I-pod da raime wigni. berlinma Cemze imoqmeda sxvanairad Semaxeda realobaze, maCuqa uamravi unikaluri momenti da megobari, momca didi inspiracia. Tbilisma Cemze imoqmeda TbilisSi 16 weli vicxovre da aq daiwyo yvelaferi, miuxedavad imisa, rom bevr raRacas ver veguebi mand, ra Tqma unda, Tbilismac mainc bevri ram momca. Cemi survilia vakeTo is, rac miyvars. vocnebob uyvardeT.

adamianebs

erTmaneTi

me meSinia Zalian bevri ramis, magram ara sikvdilis.

bolo nivTi romelic SeviZine sarke...

vusmen musikas yovelTvis, imitom rom sxvanairad ar SemiZlia.

rom ar vyofiliyavi DJ Spring, viqnebodi gogo, romelic ar aris DJ Spring

iyo DJ es aris survili da gadawyvetileba, romelic yvelasTvis sasiamovnoa, Tu is gulwrfelia. Cemi samuSao garemoa oTaxi savse: JurnalebiT, reproduqciebiT, wignebiT, firfitebiT, sakuTari naxatebiT da xmamaRali musikiT. Cemi saxli da ojaxi ojaxi didi da

musikis garda vamTavreb kolejs, mere albaT raime sainteresos Seswavlas daviwyeb... vxatav, bevrs... axali enis swavla mominda, vnaxoT, kidev ra momiva TavSi. 10 welSi Tavi warmomidgenia an usazRvrod bednieri, an Zalian ubeduri...

Tarazulad: 1. wisqvilis qva; 4. `siyvaruli yvelas unda~ – personaJi; 7. tba dasavleT saqarTveloSi; 15. Sua da aRmosavleT aziis xalxTa uZvelesi religia; 16. `kukaraCas~ avtori (saxeli da gvari); 18. qalaqis garemocva mtris jarebis mier; 19. zevsis mkvebavi Txa; 20. sofeli zugdidis raionSi; 24. jari Zv. saqarTveloSi; 25. wyvilTa Tanamedrove swraftempiani cekva; 26. warwera kinofilmis kadrze; 27. muxis nayofi; 33. mravalwevri maTematikaSi; 34. qarTuli xemiani sakravi; 35. jarebis marTvis organo; 39. mwvrTneli karateSi; 40. germaneli filosofosi; 41. sapatio tituli did britaneTSi; 42. parizis aeroporti; 46. jaris erT-erTi ZiriTadi saxeoba; 47. oTar WilaZis romani; 48. cecxlmsaxurTa qurumi; 53. umaRlesi samxedro wodeba zogierTi qveynis armiaSi; 54. qirurgiuli operaciis dawyebiTi etapi; 58. lixtenSteinis dedaqalaqi; 59. sabuTi, romelic mohyavT risame damamtkiceblad; 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 60. gamosaxulebis gabundovneba an damaxinjeba optikur xelsawyoebSi; 61. egviptis mefeTa tituli; 62. santimetris meaTedi nawili; 63. e. Sevardna13 14 Zis mSobliuri sofeli. 15 16 Sveulad: 1. mZime Txevad sawvavze momuSave Sigawvis Zrava; 2. saqarTvelos valuta; 3. usinaTloTa Sriftis avtori; 5. igivea, rac unamuso; 6. 17 Jiul vernis erT-erTi literaturuli kapitani; 8. umaRlesi samecniero 18 19 20 saxelmwifo dawesebuleba; 9. qimiuri elementi; 10. inglisis nakrebisa da `arsenalis~ yofili mekare; 11. haramxanis msaxuri qali; 12. al. basila21 22 23 ias ansambli; 13. SvedeTis dedaqalaqi; 14. atmosferuli naleqi; 17. Cexi kompozitori; 21. frangi poeti; 22. igivea, rac msaxiobi; 23. Zabriseburi 24 25 26 27 CaRrmaveba vulkanis Tavze; 28. RvTaebrivi xari egviptur miTologiaSi; 28 29 30 31 32 29. socialuri fena, romelic gonebrivi Sromis muSakebisgan Sedgeba; 30. Zvel saberZneTSi: taZari, sadac qurumebi winaswarmetyvelebdnen; 31. 33 34 35 mdinare cimbirSi; 32. RvTaebrivi mxsneli; 36. komplimenti qarTulad; 37. 36 37 38 tramvais mZRoli; 38. igivea, rac batkani; 43. opera `aidas~ avtori; 44. didmarxvis wina kvira; 45. sabaRo dekoratiuli xelovneba – xeebisa da buC39 40 41 42 qebisTvis sxvadasxva formebis micema. 49. bibliuri iakobis tyupiscali 43 44 45 Zma; 50. sofeli mestiis raionSi; 51. mefe-lomi multfilmidan; 52. n. baraTaSvilis leqsi. 55. nawarmoebis mTavari azri; 56. (Zv.) sicxianis sadebi wa46 47 48 mali; 57. katis gasagdebi SeZaxili. wina krosvordis pasuxebi: 49 50 51 52 1. xaverdi; 2. logariTmi; 3. klite; 4. Serpa; 5. `amarkordi~; 6. indieli; 7. 53 54 damokle; 8. pelmeni; 9. arsen; 10. krosvordi; 11. redaqtori; 12. proporcia; 13. libia; 14. `odoia~; 15. feniqsi; 16. jouli; 17. amalTea; 18. erebuni; 19. 55 56 57 imami; 20. titogradi; 21. gvadelupa; 22. slava; 23. idebi; 24. `polaroidi~; 58 59 60 25. engri; 26. analgezia; 27. poseidoni; 28. inini; 29. bokveri; 30. ajani; 31. akolada; 32. noRai; 33. oldriji; 34. bloki; 35. itoni; 36. `anuSi~; 37. avtostopi; 38. inanTeuli; 39. fridoni; 40. mSvildi. 61 62 63 40

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verZi

kargi droa samomavlo gegmebis Sesadgenad. magram nu moswydebiT realobas da iseT gegmebs nu daisaxavT, romelTa Sesrulebas ver SeZlebT. energiasa da dros tyuilad daxarjavT. am kviraSi axal megobrebsa da mxardamWerebs SeiZenT, magram daakvirdiT, ramdenad gulwrfeli iqnebian isini Tqven mimarT. kuro

am kviras SeiZleba, mogeCvenoT, rom cxovrebis mizanTan axlos xarT. garkveul warmatebas miaRwevT kidec. magram naCqarev daskvnebs mainc nu gaakeTebT. moerideT mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebebis miRebas, radgan axla obieqturad situaciis Sefasebis unari ar gaqvT. tyupebi

kargi periodia axali codnis SesaZenad da TvalTaxedvis gasafarToeblad. amas sxvadasxva saSualebiT moaxerxebT, wignebiT dawyebuli mogzaurobiT damTavrebuli. Semecnebis dros aranairi sirTuleebi ar geliT. am dros SeiZleba ufro religiuri gaxdeT. kirCxibi

Tqvens sulier ganviTarebaSi axali etapi iwyeba. gamoricxuli ar aris, am kviraSi warmatebis axal mwvervalebs miaRwioT. situaciis obieqturad Sefaseba gagiWirdebaT, amitomac fulis gasesxebas moerideT. am periodSi Tqveni intuicia Zalian dagexmarebaT. lomi

pirad urTierTobebSi harmoniuli periodi gaqvT. iswavliT partnioris ndobas, rac Tqvens grZnobebs ufro daaTbobs. sulieri ganviTarebisTvis stimuli gagiCndebaT. gauziareT Tqveni ocnebebi da gegmebi sayvarel adamians, is gagigebT kidec da SeiZleba maTi ganxorcielebis gzac gikarnaxoT. qalwuli

yuradReba miaqcieT janmrTelobas. nebismieri samkurnalo-profilaqtikuri procedura am periodSi efeqturi iqneba. mTavaria, gjerodeT, rom ganikurnebiT. axla SegiZliaT, relaqsaciiT dakavdeT, CaitaroT wylis procedurebi da saxalxo mkurnalebis daxmarebiT imkurnaloT. am kviris ganmavlobaSi, saswori

romantikuli kvira geliT. es periodi sasiamovno da uCveulo STabeWdilebiT iqneba savse. dagegmeT paemani da gaerTeT sayvarel adamianTan erTad. aris didi albaToba, rom am kviraSi Tqveni SemoqmedebiTi niWi da unari gamovlindeba.

Rriankali

axloblebTan da ojaxis wevrebTan am periodSi Tbili urTierTobebi CamogiyalibdebaT. daiviwyeT Zveli wyena da naTesavebTan sulier siaxloves ufro metad SeigrZnobT. SeecadeT, am periodSi Tqveni yofa ufro komfortuli gaxadoT. kargi droa, ojaxSi simyudrovis Sesaqmnelad. mSvildosani

adamianebis ndobas iswavliT da garSemomyofebTan urTierToba ufro gagiadvildebaT. da mainc, gafrTxildiT, amiT SeiZleba arakeTilsindisierma adamianebma isargeblon. ar daiviwyoTY mTavari wesi: `vendobi, magram vamowmeb!~ aucileblad gamoyaviT dro sufTa haerze gasaseirneblad. kargi periodia msubuqi flirtisTvis. Txis rqa

finansur saqmeebSi areuloba geliT. fulis ukmarisoba araferSuaSia. piriqiT, am dros sakmaod bevri ram gamogivaT da ver gaigebT Tqveni warmatebis mizezs da swored es dagabnevT. axla gagimarTlebT, magram, roca es iRbliani periodi dasruldeba, Tqveni materialuri mdgomareobac gauaresdeba. merwyuli

gagiumjobesdebaT intuicia. gamoricxuli araa, rom mgrZnobelobis unari ukiduresad gagiZlierdeT. swored axla SegiZliaT Tqvens sxvadasxva saqciels axsna mouZebnoT. gagiZlierdebaT interesi musikis, xelovnebis, cekvisa da religiis mimarT. am sferoebSi SeiZleba garkveul warmatebasac miaRwioT. Tevzebi

SeiZleba am kviraSi ucnauri da amouxsneli movlenebis momswre gaxdeT. gagiZlierdebaT intuicia. es dagexmarebaT swori gadawyvetilebebis miRebaSi. miaqcieT yuradReba sizmrebs. SeiZleba bevri ram, rac am periodSi Tqvens cxovrebaSi moxdeba, gangebis niSani iyos. orSabaTi 25 maisi, 2009

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siteti (germania); 1996-2000 _ saqarTvelos teqnikuri universiteti – iuridiul mecnierebaTa bakalavri. 1986-1996 _ #6 germanuli gimnazia.

restorani beReli acxadebs vakansiebs sxvadasxva poziciebze: mimtanis: aucilebeli moTxovnebi: saSualo ganaTleba; sasiamovno garegnoba; asaki: 17-27; ucxo enis codna; sasurvelia servis sferoSi muSaobis gamocdileba; maTematikuri azrovnebis unari; swrafi azrovnebis unari; energiuloba, komunikabeluroba, organizebuloba; momxmarebelTan urTierTobis unari. mzareulis: moTxovnebi: gamocdileba xinklis damzadebaSi; energiuloba. yasabi: moTxovnebi: samuSao gamocdileba Sesabamis sferoSi. dainteresebulma pirebma gamogvigzavneT ganacxadi Semdeg el.fostaze: hr@begeli.com.ge misamarTi: Tbilisi, TamaraSvilis Sesaxvevi 1; tel: (+995 55) 63 79 70; gancxadebis miRebis bolo vadaa: 2009 wlis 11 ivnisi.

sasursaTo maRazia acxadebs vakansias gamyidvelis Tanamdebobaze. moTxovnebi: sqesi: mdedrobiTi; asaki: 25-45 wlamde; energiuli; komunikabeluri. dainteresebul pirebs gTxovT, dagvikavSirdeT Semdeg telefonis nomerze: (+995 77) 43 83 90 sakontaqto piri: vaxo.

sastumro `varazi~ acxadebs vakansiebs sxvadasxva Tanamdebobebze: 1. administratori; 2. dacva; 3. diasaxlisi; 4. mebarguli. moTxovnebi: sasurvelia samuSao gamocdileba Sesabamis sferoSi. dainteresebul kandidatebs gTxovT gamoagzavnoT Tqveni cv Semdeg el.fostis misamarTze: otelvarazi@yahoo.com tel: (+995 32) 93 11 61 kandidatebi Seavseben saaplikacio formas, romlis mixedviTac moxdeba SerCeva. gancxadebis miRebis bolo vadaa: 2009 wlis 18 ivnisi.

gazeTi `praimtaimi~ iwvevs momxibvleli garegnobis gogonebs fotosesiaze, gazeTis me-3 gverdze gamosaqveyneblad. msurvelebi dagvikavSirdnen: 40-94-81; 40-94-82.

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brazilieli lamazmanebi, kristina santana da andreza Cagasi saqarTvelos droSis qveS Ta­ maSoben. Tumca, kacTa wyvilisgan, renatosa da JorJisgan gansxvavebiT, saqarTveloSi namyofebi ar arian. Cvenma plaJburTelebma _ kristina santanam da andreza Cagasma, igive `saqa~`rTvelo~-m (es maTi metsaxelebia), pekinis olimpiadaze kargad iTamaSes, jgufSi rusebis wyvili uria­ dova-Sirieva daamarcxes da momdevno etapze gavidnen. saqarTvelos, agvis­ toSi ganviTarebuli movlenebis gamo, is gamarjveba gulze malamosaviT daedo. es ambavi sasiamovno ufro metad imadac gaxldaT, rom brazilielebs srulad hqondaT am matCis mniSvneloba gaTavisebuli. rusebs gaaTmagebuli ener­ giiT daupirispirdnen da lamis wagebuli matCi Semoutriales. kristinasTan da an­ drezasTan, olimpiadis ambebis garda, maT piradul cxovrebazec visaubreT.

kristina: olimpiadis sagzuri bolo momentSi movipoveT da aman Zalian gagvaxara. mTlianobaSi pekinSi Cveni TamaSiT kmayofilebi varT. mTavari mizani rusebis damarcxeba iyo da es amocana warmatebiT SevasruleT. andreza: marTla ar gvegona, rusebTan matCi amxela aJiotaJs Tu gamoiwvevda. Sexvedras 11 aTasi gulSematkivari daeswro da preskonferenciaze 250 Jurnalisti movida. aseTma yuradRebam kidev ufro meti stimuli mogvca. qarTvelebTan urTierTobaSi vgrZnobdiT, rom Zalian undodaT rusebis damarcxeba. matCis Semdeg ubednieresi adamianebi viyaviT. es gamarjveba cxovrebis bolomde ar dagvaviwydeba. _ namatCev preskonferenciaze rusma plaJbur­ Telebma sakmaod uxeSad isaubres. maT Tqves, rom Tqven qarTvelebi ar iyaviT da arc is icodiT, saqarTvelos prezidenti vin iyo. andreza: ho, es Zaan magari iyo, daboRmilebi iyvnen, razec kristinam waklurad upasuxa, Cven qarTuli pasporti gvaqvs, qarTvelebi varT, tabloze weria, rom saqarTvelom daamarcxa ruseTi, danarCeni ki fexebze mkidiao. kristina: rusebma Zalian gamaRizianes. swored im dReebSi saqarTvelos pirvel ledis,sandra rulovssac vesaubreT. rusi sportsmenebis saqcieli lamazi namdvilad ar iyo. _ raze isaubreT sandra rulovsTan? kristrina: maSin pekinidan qarTuli delegaciis dabrunebaze iyo saubari. Cven vuTxariT, rom saqarTveloSi aravin gvyavda da im droisTvis verc braziliaSi wasvlas movaxerxebdiT. amitom gverCivna, pekinSi davrCeniliyaviT da mTavari saqme rusebis damarcxebiT gagvekeTebina. sabednierod, mere gadawyda, rom CineTSi vrCebodiT. _ Tqvens TamaSs saqarTveloSi didi gamoxmaureba mohyva. rogori ganwyoba iyo am mxriv braziliaSi? andreza: olimpiadaze brazilieli gulSematkivari TiTqmis ar gvicnobda, pekinSi TamaSis Semdeg ki Zalian bevri gvcnobs. quCaSi rom mivdivarT, gvaCereben da gvesaubrebian, rac marTla sasiamovnoa. braziliuri wyvilis Semdeg xom mTeli qveyana gvqomagobda. warmogidgeniaT, ra xdeboda Cvens samSobloSi, rodesac Tanamemamuleebs pekinSi pirveli seti movugeT. brazilieli xalxi vanerviuleT, Tumca maTgan saocar siTbos vgrZnobT. _ turnirebSi mudmivad monawileobT da xSirad TveobiT samSobloSi ver CadixarT. rogor eguebian amas Tqvens ojaxSi? kristina: rTulia, TveobiT ojaxisgan mowyveta, magram aseTi profesia gvaqvs da ra gaewyoba. me is mexmareba, rom meuRle harli markesi plaJburTelia da xSirad erTad varT. Tumca ojaxi mainc Zalian menatreba. harlis axlaxan gavyevi colad. qorwili SarSan oqtomberSi gvqonda. wminda braziliuri qorwili iyo. bevri tkbileuliT, aTasnairi sasmeliTa da bevri cekviT. dilamde gaverTeT. andreza: ojaxTan ganSoreba mec Zalian miWirs. samwuxarod, Cemi meuRle braziliaSia. mas iq wvenebis qarxana aqvs da sul saqmeSia. samwuxarod, ver axerxebs xSir mogzaurobas da CemTan didxans yofnas. mas iSviaTad vnaxulob. ise ki, axlaxan, germaniaSi yofnis dros, veRar moiTmina da CamomakiTxa. _ plaJburTi did fizikur datvirTvas moiTxovs da sakmaod damRlelia. matCebis Semdeg rogor isvenebT? kristina: Zalian miyvars wignebis kiTxva da xSirad vkiTxulob. momqancveli TamaSebis Semdeg gantvirTvis 44

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saSualebaa. andreza: kiTxva mec Zalian miyvars Tu dro maqvs, arc gaseirnebaze vambob uars. _ mudmivad sxvadasxva qveynebSi mogzaurobT, gamorCeviT Tu mogwonT romelime? kristina: mec da andrezasac safrangeTi gviyvars, sasiamovnoa iq TamaSi. araferi sjobs imas, rodesac TamaSob da ici, rom Sens ukan eifelis koSkia. parizi yvelaze romantikulia da Zalian gviyvars. andreza: bevr qveyanaSi ki vmogzaurobT, magram imis dro naklebad gvrCeba, rom matCebis mere gaviseirnoT da RirsSesaniSnaobebi davaTvalieroT, rac Zalian cudia. _ axla is gviTxariT, karieris dasrulebis Sem­ deg ris gakeTebas apirebT? kristina: biznesisa da marketingis specialoba maqvs, Tumca karieris damTavrebis Semdeg Zalian minda Cemi sakuTari skola mqondes. aseve, minda deda

gavxde da Svilebi gavzardo. andreza: sportuli ganaTleba miviRe da sabuRaltro kursebic gaviare. survili maqvs, codna gaviRrmao da buRalteriSi swavla gavagrZelo. _ isev plaJburTs davubrundeT, albaT, ukve fiqrobT 2010 wlis londonis olimpiadaze. kristina: olimpiadisTvis mzadebas 12 ianvridan daviwyebT, rogorc ki sanakrebo matCebi dasruldeba. pekinis olimpiadis sagzuri bolos movipoveT, axla igive ar unda ganmeordes. 2011 wels ukve licenzia unda gvqondes da 2012 wels mTlianad olimpiadisTvis mzadebas davuTmobT. _ saqarTveloSi Camosvlas rodisRa apirebT? andreza: saqarTvelos naxva Zalian gvinda, gansakuTrebiT mas Semdeg, rac axlos gavicaniT qarTveli xalxi. maT udidesi siTbo dagvanaxves da erTi suli gvaqvs, TbilisSi rodis CamovalT. imedia, es male moxdeba.

CamoarTmeven `vit jorjias~ Cempionis tituls? koba inasariZe 2004 weli. 30 maisi. Tbilisi. erovnuli stadioni. pirvelad qarTuli fexburTis istoriaSi oqros matCi qveynis Cempionis gamosavlenad. Tbilisis `vit jorjia~ _ bolnisis `sioni~ _ 2:0. tribunaze didi ria-ria atyda. qomagebma erTmaneTze gaiwies, ramdenime mZimed daiWra da saavadmyofoSi gaaqanes. viTareba stadionze specrazmis gamoCenis Semdeg Cawynarda. 2009 weli. 17 maisi. bolnisi. qveynis dimitri ramiSvili Cempionobamde imave `vit jorjias~ qula aSorebs, `sioni~ umotivaciodaa. angariSi 3:4. `vit jorjia~ meored gaxda qveynis Cempioni, pirvelad ki... bolnisSi sruliad sakvirveli ram moxda: adgilobrivma qomagebma sakuTari gundis fexburTelebi galanZRes. sayovelTao azriT, matCi Cawyobil-winaswar garigebuli iyo. am ambavs, cxadia, mxolod `vit jorjiasa~ da `sionis~ warmomadgenlebi uaryofen, xolo saqarTvelos profesiuli fexburTis ligis prezidentma dimitri ramiSvilma, qarTuli fexburTis realobidan gamomdinare, `praimtaimisTvis~ sruliad uprecedento ram Tqva: `aSkaraa, rom `sioni~_`vit jorjias~ matCisas patiosani TamaSis principi dairRva. am Sexvedris meore taimSi bolniseli fexburTelebi gaCerdnen da, faqtobrivad, mogebuli TamaSi waages. gamoZiebisTvis prokuraturac aRaraa saWiro, safexburTo samyaroSi isedac yvelam yvelaferi icis. mTavaria, is davadginoT, ratom aRar iTamaSa meore taimSi `sionma~ fexburTi~. wesiT da rigiT, patiosani TamaSis principebis darRvevisTvis sasjelic Sesabamisi unda `gamoiweros~. evropaSi aseTi precedentebi yofila _ CempionTaTvis Cempionis titulic CamourTmeviaT, CvenSi ki jer msgavsi araferi momxdara. `profliga gundebis gaerTianebaa da maTi dasjis ufleba Cven ar gvaqvs, es ukve fexburTis federaciis aRmaskomis saqmea. bevrjer vnaxeT am Sexvedris videoCanaweri, firs kidev ramdenjerme davatrialebT, gavesaubrebiT matCze damswreebsac da mere ukve sanqciebi aRmaskomze iqneba~. bolo dros ukve daiwyo laparaki CvenSi aseve uprecedento sasjelze _ SesaZloa, `vit jorjias~ tituli CamoarTvano. miT umetes, rom am erT TveSi ukve meoTxed gamoiTqva safuZvliani eWvi, `vit jorjiam~ Cawyobili matCi iTamaSao. `sionTan~ Sexvedramde `vit jorjia~ rusTavis `olimpTan~ upatiosno TamaSSi iyo eWvmitanili. `jer ver getyviT, ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs federaciis aRmaskomi, magram Tavad yvelanairi sasjelis momxre viqnebi, romelic Cveni fexburTis ganviTarebis xelSemwyobi iqneba~, _ gviTxra dimitri ramiSvilma. `sioni~-`vit jorjias~ `speqtakliT~ yvelaze dazaralebuli Tbilisis `dinamos~ mmarTveli direqtori buba tyavaZe ki vitelTaTvis Cempionis titulis CamorTmevas swor gadawyvetilebad miiCnevs... `Tu saamiso safuZveli arsebobs, swori iqneba, Tu `vit jorjias~ tituls CamoarTmeven. amas imitom ar vambob, rom dinamoeli var, Cempionad nuravis gamoacxadeben. `sioni~-`vit jorjias~ matCs Tavad ar davswrebivar, radganac zugdidSi gaxldiT Cemi gundis TamaSze, Tumca bolnisSi `dinamos~ warmomadgenlebi iyvnen da maT miTxres, rom TamaSi Cawyobili iyo. am TamaSis sibinZureze eWvi adrec arsebobda da amis Sesaxeb maSin xmamaRla vTqvi, egeb yuradReba mieqciaT, magram mainc araferi gamovida da iseve saeWvod damTavrda, rogorc vivaraudeT. gamomdinare iqidan, Tu ra Sefaseba misces am Sexvedras Jurnalistebma da maT, vinc matCs daeswro, `vit jorjia~`sioni~ winaswar garigebuli iyo. amitomac vambob, rom Cempionis titulis CamorTmeva swori nabiji iqneba. oRond, vimeoreb, Cempionad nurc erT gunds nu gamoacxadeben~. Cawyoba da binZuri matCebi Cveni CempionatisTvis axali ambavi ar aris, sezons ver gaixsenebT, romelime TamaSs xmauri ar mohyoloda, magram sanqciebi... ramdenime wlis winaT iyo, erTaderTxel, roca Cawyobili TamaSis monawile orive gunds wageba CauTvales. sxva SemTxvevebSi ki Camwyobebs TaRliToba xaxviviT SerCaT. `axlac Tu araferi Seicvala, momaval sezonSic igive moxdeba. aqamde rom saeWvo matCebsa da autanel msajobaze yvela wauyruebda xolme, imitomac gvaqvs aseTi Cempionati. aucilebelia, rom damnaSaveni erTxel mainc daisajon samagaliTod~. buba tyavaZe xSirad gvinaxavs msajobiT aRSfoTebuli, Tavad msajebsac ramdenjerme uTqvamT, rom `dinamos~ matCebis gansja didad ar siamovnebT. tyavaZis TqmiT, erTxel fexburTis federaciis samsajo komitetSi mas uTxres, rom msajebma gancxadeba daweres, `dinamos~ Sexvedrebs aRar vimsajebTo, arada... `aRmoCnda, rom msajebs msgavsi araferi dauweriaT. Tu romelime msajma Cemgan misi Rirsebis Semlaxveli raime fraza moismina, SeuZlia, sasamarTloSi miCivlos, Tu ara da, CavTvli, rom isini ganawyenebulis poziciidan laparakoben. me federaciis Sesabamis samsaxurs damaSave msajebis dasjas vTxov da Tu amas isini ar gaakeTeben, viCivleb fifasa da uefaSi~. ...rogor fiqrobT, msajebi gangeb uSveben miutevebel Secdomebs, Tu es ucodinrobiT mosdiT? vkiTxeT saubris bolos `dinamos~ mmarTvel direqtors, pasuxi mokle da konkretuli iyo: `ar msurs udanaSaulobis prezumfciis darRveva!~ daskvnebi Tavad gaakeTeT, risi Tqmac SeiZleboda, vfiqrobT, TiTqmis yvelaferi naTqvamia. axla jeri fexburTis federaciis aRmaskomzea. am striqonebis kiTxvisas Cempionati ukve damTavrebuli iqneba, Cempioni ki?..

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germaniasa da qveynis farglebs ernSi~ moxvda. igi iyo erT-erTi is francs~ dauWira mxari. `baiernisa~ gareT elvis siswrafiT gavrcel- germaneli axalgazrda, romelic Tu nakrebis TamaSisas sul ufro da informacia: `miunxenis `bai- 1968 wels studentebis mier mowy- xSirad Cndeboda tribunebze ernma~ Tavis yofil fexburTels, obil saprotesto aqciebSi monaw- braitneris Seuracxmyofeli da paul braitners klubis safexbur- ileobda. marqsizm-leninizmis damamcirebeli banerebi. To mrCevlis statusi SesTavazao~. ideebze aRzrdil ymawvils `wiTebraitneris cxovrebis mTeli gundis generaluri menejeris uli li pauli~ Searqves. rodesac jar- tragizmi is gaxldaT, rom, miuxehionesis sityvebiT, romelmac ax- Si gawvevis dro mouvida, brait- davad komunisturi ideebis agialgazrdobaSi braitneri udidesi nerma, politikuri Sexedulebebis taciisa, is mainc ver gadaiqca gansacdelisgan saxlis sardafSi gamo, germaniis armiaSi samsaxurze 1968 wlis gamosvlebis gmirad. es damalviT ixsna _ erTxel eqsperti uari Tqva. samxedro policiis tituli gaunter netcers ergo. cxovrebis bolomde eqspertia. klanWebidan ki is swored hionesma komunistebma braitnerTan Se`baiernisTvis~ mas fasdaudebeli ixsna, romelmac msoflio fexbur- darebiT apolitikuri netceri samsaxuris gaweva SeuZlia. Ta- Tis momavali varskvlavi saxlis gmirad imis gamo Seracxes, rom vad braitneri am SemoTavazebiT sardafSi damala. paulma mTel rig epizodebSi maTi gamowveul aRfrTovanebas ver mabekenbauerisa da braitneris imedebi ar gaamarTla. `wiTeli lavda. `rekordmaisteris~ da misi dapirispireba sajaro mas Sem- pauli~ araerTxel SeniSnes ZviurTierTobis dasakanoneblad mc- deg gaxda, rac `bild caitungis~ radRirebuli `mazeratis~ saWesire detali iyo saWiro, kontraq- erT-erT nomerSi paulis suraTi Tan. 1974 wlis msoflio Cempiotze xeli `baiernis~ prezidents daibeWda, romelzec komunisturi natis mosamzadebelma periodma franc bekenbauers unda moewera... ideebis matarebeli fexburTeli ki braitneris komunisturi imiji 1974 wlis msoflio CempionTa Cinuri propagandistuli gazeTiT srulad Selaxa. man da hionesma, samedicinos reqtorobisTvis wesebis ibrZvian ideuri da politikuri dapirisp- xelSi iyo gamosaxuli, xolo misgareSe gundis saxeliT, titulis moireba, mTels germani- miReba ukan mao posteri gebis sanacvlod fexburTelTa jer Ze ardunis dawyebula, magrammoCanda. req- saavadmyofos laboratoriebis personmaritaromelzec damenia aSi Cumad saubrobdnen, `bai- torobis ultramemarcxene SexeduleangariSebze 100 aTasi germanuli msurvelebi ukve gamoCndnen, ali vaJa fSavelas gamziris piketirebiT samedicino universitetismaTi reqtorma mravlad. emuqreboda, yifSiZem arsebuli sanam giorgi menabdem Tanamdeboba janmrTeloernSi~ erToblivi karieris da- Tanac bebis braitnerisTvis, romelsac markisradgan Caricxva moiTxoves. yvelazekirealur kandidatad laboratoria daxura da xuTmilionian bis mdgomareobis gauaresebis datosawyiss daemTxva. `kaizergamo franci~ imisic ar sjeroda, romRumisma moTxovna dakmayofilda, naxevarmva. ase weria mis oficialur gancxadebaSi, duSauris klinikis direqtori zaza sin- tenderSi kopania `iml~-s gaamarjvebina. burJuaziis tipuri warmomadgenekerpma maom milionobiT Cinels cvelma germaniis safexburTo kaviuridTumca, rogorc wesi, CvenSi janmrTelo- auriZe moiazreba. is am mTavrobis erT- romelic, personalis mtkicebiT, libisiyo. man adreul asakSi Tvalissicocxle mouswrafa, miunxen­iiulad s Siris daSantaJebis mizniT orjer rCeulTagania, rogorc amboben, arc arsebobs. mdgomareoba Tanamdebobis pirebs erTi momWreli silamazis qeraroca gogoze `baiernSi~, sadac dominanti franc reqtorobis gaiTamaSa erT-erT bazis datovebis did pativs scems da sandra kandidatad scena. maSin `gauuaresdebaT~ xolme, isini prezidentic patronaJiTac araerT pro- moiazreba jandacvis ministris moadg- fedufrosobasfexburTis TvalSi ar mosdis. menabdesac iqorwina. garda, yov- rulovsis bekenbaueri gaxldaT, safexburamis paralelurad germaniis maT Soris aris gene- ile eraciuli koka fruiZec.respublikis rogorc amboben, zustad ase daemarTa. reqtorad is varelTvis aqcevda yuradRebas sa- eqts Toaxorcielebs, karieris gagrZeleba urTulenakrebis debis revoluciis Semdeg dainiSna da mis tikuri paTologiebis kvlevis centris fruiZe vano merabiSvilis kadria da kuTar ganaTlebas. gansakuTreb- si saqme iyo. maT Soris dapirispkapitani franc bekenbaueri 100 saavadmyofos proeqtis erT-erTi TanabiografiaSi sagulisxmo Strixia is, rom daarsebac. uli warmatebiT ki qvislia. oratorul irebam kulminacias miaRwia, gundelebs bolomde reqtorobis kandidatadmaSin saxeldeba ganmaxorcielebelic. aris kidevbrZolisken erTi is irakli oqruaSvilis Tumca, xelovnebas eufleboda, rodesac erT-erT da maTi germanuli xasiaTis saavadmyofosinterviuSi direq- kandidati, iaSvilis klinikis direq- gamovkacma rom Tqvas, oqruaSvilisaqtiurad safrangeT- respublikuri nikoloz yifSiZec. es adamiani Ta- torilenisken qeTi nemsaZe,mouwodebda. romelic danarCeSi gaqcevis Semdegac didxans areqtores. tori TanamSromlobda konservator braitnerma ganacxada: `sanakrebo `kaizer droze saakaSvilma didi zar-zeimiT nebisgan gansxvavebiT arc uaryofs, rom pirdapir jandacvis saministroSi gamarqristianTa gaerTianebasTan, ro- vis matCebis win mindorze mdgoms francma~ metoqes am SemTxvevaSic Tul TaTbirze uTxres, sanam lamazi xar, Camoiyvana, aqaoda respublikur saavad- arCevnebSi monawileobis survili aqvs. melic bavariis mxareSi finansu- erovnuli himnis mosmena-koncenajoba. xalxisTvis ufro misaRebi aaSenebso, sabolood ki es vai- Tumca, vin gaxdeba maTgan reqtori an gaSeni xeliT dawere gancxadeba da Tanamde- myofos rad erT-erTi trirebaSi xels miSlis~. sityvekvlav saqcieli aRmoCnda. imiT dasrulda, rom am respubmoCdebian Tukapitnis ara kidev sxva kandidatebi, boba datoveo. yvelaze mZlavri da uSvelebeli struqturulad srulyofilad biT Seuracxyofilma bekenbauerma safexburTo karieris saavadmyofos mxolod fasadi es am etapze Zneli saTqmelia. rogorc dassaqarTveloSi skamebi carieli didx- likur da essajarod fasadic ZiriTadad amboben, brZola Semdeg wesebis gareSe ans ar rCeba, droebiT reqtoris awyobili organizacia iyo. mova- gauremontes Tanagundeli gaakritika rulebis maTi iwyeba, gzebi isev prodiuserebs gamoadgaT. ivnisamde bevribekenbaueri droa da Sesabamisad, am leobas daviT WavWaniZe asrulebs. 30 `Sua 1970 wels Tineijeri braitneri, da qalaqis~ mas maoist-komunisti uwoda. gaiyo. _ germaniis ivniss ki 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