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xelisufleba afxazeTis 

sakonstitucio umravlesobiT 

eliso kilaZe 

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg 

599 17 12 12 

„qarTulma ocnebam” sakonstitucio 

cvlilebebi daaanonsa da parlamentis 

Tavmjdomaris xelmZRvanelobiT sakonstitucio komisiac 

Seqmna. saqmeSi Caxeduli adamianebi imTaviTve varaudobd- 

nen, rom konstituciaSi cvlilebebi prezidentis arCevis wess 

Seexeboda. saqarTveloSi Camosulma veneciis komisiis Tavmjdomarem 

pirdapir da mkafiod Tqva, rom veneciis komisia prezidentis 

arCevis wesis Secvlis aucileblobas ver xedavs. ram- 

denad gaiTvaliswinebs saqarTvelos xelisufleba am pozicias, 

jer kidev, ar viciT, magram sakonstitucio komisiis pirveli 

gadawyvetileba ukve Seexo saqarTvelos parlamentis Tbilis- 

Si gadmotanis sakiTxs. marTalia, „ocnebis” deputati, mamuka 

mdinaraZe, gvimtkicebs, rom „qarTulma ocnebam” parlamentis 

quTaisidan TbilisSi gadmotanis sakiTxs mxari ar dauWira, samagierod, 

konstituciaSi parlamentis adgilmdebareobis Sesaxeb 

Canaweri gauqmdeba, rac avtomaturad niSnavs, rom parla- 

menti TbilisSi uproblemod gadmova. 

rogorc „qronika+”-is wyaro 

ambobs, realurad, sakonstitucio 

komisiis Seqmnis mizani ara 

mxolod prezidentis institutis 

dasusteba da parlamentis 

adgilmdebareobis Secvlaa, 

aramed bevrad ufro didi mas- 

Stabis cvlilebebi mzaddeba da 

es cvlilebebi qveynisTvis did 

tragediad SeiZleba gadaiqces. 

ramdenime Tvis win galis raioni 

ruseTma mTlianad samxedro 

qalaqad gamoacxada. enguris 

xidze yvela gadasasvleli 

etapobrivad Caketa. gudau- 

Tis samxedro bazis teritoriidan 

samxedro teqnikisa da cocxali 

Zalis galis raionSi gadmotana 

mimdinareobs, ruseTi 

enguris xidze sabaJo-gamSvebi 

punqtis gaxsnasac apirebs. ruseTis 

am qmedebebs saqarTvelos 

xelisuflebis mxridan arc 

protesti da arc sxva ufro 

qmediTi RonisZiebebi ar mohyolia. 

okupirebuli afxazeTisa da 

samaCablos teritoriebi ruse- 

Tma damoukidebel saxelmwifoebad 

ukve aRiara da, realuradac, 

misive patronaJis qveS aiyvana, 

_ afxazeTi mTlianad ruseTis 

dumis deputatsa da fraqcia 

„Åäèííàÿ Ðîññèÿ”-s Tavmjdomaris 

moadgiles, oTar arSbas 

Caabares. mkiTxvelisTvis 

ufro gasagebi rom iyos, oTar 

arSba putinis ideologis, aleqsandre 

WaWias uaxloesi megobari 

da yofili mZaxalia. eTnikurad 

afxazi da dediT qar- 

Tveli arSba putinis axlo megobaria 

da arc qarTul politikaSi 

Carevaze ambobs uars. 

baTumSi misi sastumro piradad 

maSindelma premierma irakli 

RaribaSvilma gaxsna. imasac ambobdnen, 

rom premierobidan 

gadayenebis Semdeg, swored, ar- 

Sba iyo irakli RaribaSvilis 

mekavSire rusul politikur 

wreebTan, roca yofili premieri 

axali politikuri partiis 

Seqmnas apirebda. 

irakli RaribaSvilis politikuri 

gegmebi, jerjerobiT, 

ganuxorcielebeli darCa. samagierod, 

rusulma politikurma 

elitam saqarTvelos winaa- 

Rmdeg kidev ufro gaamkacra 

toni da rogorc Cveni wyaro 

ambobs, Zalian male xelisufleba 

umZimesi arCevanis winaSe 

aRmoCndeba. 

„ocnebis” xelisuflebis 

rbilma politikam da ruseTisadmi 

loialobam, okupaciis kanonis 

gauqmebaze xmamaRalma 

saubrebma ruseTis moTxovnebi 

bevrad ufro masStaburi gaxa- 

irakli RaribaSvili 

giorgi margvelaSvili 

da. „qronika+”-is wyaros informaciiT, 

sakonstitucio komisiis 

muSaobisas erT-erTi yvelaze 

mniSvnelovani sakiTxi 

swored qveynis teritoriuli 

mowyobis Tema iqneba da mZafri 

diskusia swored qveynis teritoriuli 

erTeulebis statusis 

irgvliv gaimarTeba. 

afxazeTisa da samaCablos 

iurisdiqciis sakiTxi, jer kidev, 

wina xelisuflebis dros 

dadga eWvqveS. parlamentis maSindeli 

deputatis, giga bokerias 

kategoriuli moTxovniT, 

saqarTvelos parlamentSi afxazeTis 

deputacia gaauqmes. am 

gadawyvetilebiT saxelmwifom 

uari Tqva samarTlebriv berketze. 

marTalia, mogvianebiT, 

orpalatiani parlamentis proeqtze 

iyo saubari, specialuri 

samuSao jgufic ki Seiqmna, magram, 

sabolood, isev giga bokerias 

mondomebiT, es proeqtic 

Taroze Semodes. 

rogorc Cveni wyaro gveubneba, 

ruseTis saboloo moTxovna 

afxazeTisa da samaCablos 

aRiarebaa, magram raki saqarTveloSi, 

jer kidev, arsebobs 

mcire saprotesto muxti, xelisufleba 

pirdapir am daTmobaze 

ver midis. swored amitom 

ganixileba sakonstitucio 

komisiis mier e. w. rbili variantis 

SemoTavazeba, rom konstituciaSi 

Canaweri gaCndes afxazeTis 

konfederaciis Taobaze. 

es iqneba, erTgvari, testi da 

Tu politikuri Zalebi da sazogadoeba 

am e. w. rbil variants 

gaatarebs, amis Semdeg afxazeTis 

rkinigzis aRdgenazec 

daiwyeba saubari. 

igive wyaro gveubneba, rom, 

jerjerobiT, am proeqtze mxolod 

kuluarebSi laparakoben 

da proeqts sajarod mxolod 

ZiriTadi Temebis ganxilvis 

dasrulebis Semdeg Semoitanen. 

garkveuli muSaoba afxaze- 

Tis konfederaciis sakiTxis 

dasmis win fonis Sesaqmnelad 

ukve mimdinareobs. swored am 

mizans emsaxureba devnilTa ricxvis 

Semcirebac. devnilTa da 

gansaxlebis ministrma sozar 

subarma tyuilad ar daiwyo saubari 

devnilebisTvis 45-lariani 

Semweobis moxsnis Sesaxeb. 

sakonstitucio komisias 

vadebi SezRuduli aqvs. komisiis 

srulma Semadgenlobam konstituciis 

yvela muxlze calcalke 

unda imuSaos da konsensuss 

miaRwios, saparlamento 

ganxilvebis win ki formalurad 

mainc sayovelTao-saxalxo ganxilva 

unda moewyos. gazafxulamde 

axali konstituciis 

proeqti ukve miRebuli unda 

oTar arSba 

iyos da swored zafxulis 

dasawyisSi igegmeba afxazeTis 

rkinigzis gaxsnac. 

savaraudod, am gegmisTvis 

yvelaferi mzadaa, saubaria mxolod 

imaze, ramdenad mSvidad 

Caivlis es procesi da mohyveba 

Tu ara masobrivi protesti sakonstitucio 

cvlilebebs?.. 

prezidentis institutis 

uflebebis SezRudva, albaT, 

did aJiotaJs ar gamoiwvevs, 

radgan giorgi margvelaSvils 

politikuri mokavSireebi, am 

etapze, ar hyavs. miuxedavad 

grZelvadiani megobrobisa, bokeria-ugulavas 

gundi margvelaSvilze 

ganawyenebulia, radgan 

man ugulavas Sewyalebaze 

uari Tqva da pasuxismgebloba 

mTlianad saapelacio sasamarTloze 

gadaitana, murusiZis 

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebam 

ki garigebis detalebi cxadze 

cxadi gaxada. 

axali politikuri partiis 

Seqmnas gegmavs parlamentis yofili 

Tavmjdomarec, magram daviT 

usufaSvili sakuTar Tavs, 

savaraudod, isev biZina ivaniSvils 

SesTavazebs. misive bolodroindeli 

gancxadebebi cxadyofs, 

rom is xelisuflebidan 

Sors arc wasula. qveynis prezienti 

arc vano merabiSvilis Sewyalebas 

gegmavs. rogorc Cans, 

ugulavas SemTxvevis msgavsad, 

merabiSvilis ganTavisuflebac 

saapelacio sasamarTlos mouwevs 

da es garigebac TeTri ZafiT 

iqneba nakeri. gavrcelebuli 

daudasturebeli informaciiT, 

vano merabiSvili cixidan gamosvlis 

Semdeg qveynidan da qaruli 

politikidan saerTod wasvlas 

gegmavs, radgan, ugulavasgan 

gansxvavebiT, rogorc Cans, kargad 

icis, rom qarTuli policiis 

Semqmneli reformatoris imijisgan 

aRaraferi darCa da misi 

misamarTiT bevri kiTxva dagrovda, 

maT Soris, cixis kadrebTan 

dakavSirebiTac. 

kuluarebSi aqtiurad saubroben 

imazec, rom prezident 

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aRiarebas apirebs? 

margvelaSvils ambicia aqvs, meore 

vadiT iyaros kenWi am postze, 

magram imasac ambobs, rom 

erTaderTi, visac is „nacionaluri 

moZraobidan” Seiwyalebs, 

es mixeil saakaSvili iqneba. „is 

imsaxurebs imas, rom saprezidento 

arCevnebSi monawileoba 

miiRos, me mas Seviwyaleb da amis 

saSualebas mivcem, Tan Sevecdebi, 

saakaSvili arCevnebSi davamarcxo”, 

_ uTqvams prezidents. 

saparlamento arCevnebis Semdeg 

biZina ivaniSvilma isev kulisebSi 

gadainacvla. is sajarod 

mxolod erTxel da isic, 

imereTis gubernatoris, givi 

WiWinaZis dedis dakrZalvaze 

gamoCnda. arc tradiciuli sufra 

gaumarTavs bedoba dRes da 

telefonis nomeric gamocvala, 

rom masTan komunikacia im 

xalxs ar hqondes, visTan komunikaciis 

survilic Tavad ar 

aqvs. daudasturebeli informaciiT, 

is bolo dros ganvi- 

Tarebuli movlenebiT Zalian 

ukmayofiloa. xSirad sayvedurobs 

im adamianebs, romlebic 

arwmunebdnen, rom bokeria-ugulavas 

proeqti warmatebuli 

iqneboda da am gziT qarTul 

politikas mixeil saakaSvili 

sabolood CamoSordeboda. 

yofili premieri gansakuTrebiT 

iusticiis ministrze gabrazebula, 

strasburgSi mosamarTleebis 

siis Cagdeba arc 

qveynisTvisaa rigiTi marcxi da 

arc „qarTuli ocnebis” xelisuflebisTvis. 

marTalia, Tea 

wulukiani sakuTar warumateblobas 

„nacionalur moZraobas”, 

advokatTa asociaciasa da 

saxalxo damcvels abralebs, 

eka beselia ki acxadebs, rom sia 

imitom Cavarda, strasburgSi 

mosamarTleTa SerCevis wesebi 

Seicvalao, magram, realurad, 

faqti jiutia _ strasburgis 

sasamarTlom saqarTvelodan 

wardgenili mosamarTleebis 

sia, realurad, orjer Caagdo. 

swored am faqtis gamo ivaniSvilis 

karze ukve eZeben iusticiis 

ministris Semcvlels. 

amasTan, saqmeSi Caxeduli adamianebi 

arc imas gamoricxaven, 

rom politikuri da ekonomikuri 

krizisi ise gaRrmavdes, 

rom dRis wesrigSi mTavrobis 

Secvlis sakiTxic dadges. kuluarebSi 

bevrs laparakoben 

giorgi kvirikaSvilis Semcvlelzec. 

gavrcelebuli, magram, 

jerjerobiT, daudasturebeli 

informaciiT, giorgi 

kvirikaSvilis Semcvlelad ekonomikis 

ministri giorgi gvaxaria 

saxeldeba. 

ivane merabiSvili 

gigi ugulava 


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mier Semokrebili gundi ramenairad 

Seecados, rom xeli ar SeuSalos 

dRevandel prezidents, romelic 

batoni biZinasTvis miuRebelia 

mas Semdeg, rac igi darwmunda, 

rom saqarTvelos prezidentis 

privatizacia SeuZlebelia. ukve 4- 

wliani kritikis Semdeg swored es 

Tema iyo safuZveli imisa, rom 

sruliad urcxvi Sedegi, rac miiRo 

„qarTulma ocnebam”, yofiliyo 

mTavari mizani da aravin dardobda 

sakuTar avtoritetsa Tu 

sazogadoebis damokidebulebaze. 

amitom skeptikurad var ganwyobili 

raime sikeTis SesaZleblobis 

arsebobaze axal konstituciaSi. 

zogs TbilisSi surs parlamenti, 

zogs _ quTaisSi, magram yvelafris 

TbilisSi gadmodinebac SeiZleba 

ufro mtkivneuli iyos. saintereso 

iqneboda, Tu quTaisidan TbilisSi 

dabrundeboda parlamenti, 

Cemi azriT, bunebrivi nabiji iqneba, 

maSin, iqneb, sakonstitucio sas- 

ldebulebi acxadeben, rom simarTlisTvis 

brZolas gaagrZele- 

ben da SesaZloa, strasburgamdec 

ki iaron. Tqveni gadmosaxedidan 

rogor Cans es saqme? 

_ es saqme nawilia im prokuraturisa 

da sasamarTlos qmedebebisa, 

romelic 2013 wlidan iRebs 

saTaves. gavixsenoT „traqtorebis 

saqme”. araerTi diskusia gvqonda 

„damoukidebel eqspertTa klubis” 

wevrebs imdroindel premier-ministr 

ivaniSvilTan swored „traqtorebis 

saqmesTan” dakavSirebiT 

da sruliad udanaSaulo adamianebi, 

xanSi Sesulebi, maRali profesionalizmis 

mqone specialistebi 

iseTi qmedebiT iyvnen dapatimrebulni 

quCaSi, manqanebis win gadadgomiT, 

TiTqos seriozul teroristul 

jgufs upirebdnen dapatimrebas. 

am Cvens diskusiebSi magidis 

garSemo 20-ze meti eqsperti 

isxda, romlebic informirebuli 

iyvnen sxvadasxva wyarosgan. yvelas 

prokuraturam ar icoda da advokatis 

gaZarcva moindoma. batonma 

sosom aqac ki maRali moqalaqeobrivi 

standartiT imoqmeda. 

is yvelaze ufro samarTliania 

mTel sasamarTlo da gamoZiebis 

procesSi. erTad aRebul prokuraturas 

da sasamarTlos sandoobiT 

namdvilad sjobs. ar minda, 

misi zedmeti qeba, rom Cemma 

naTqvamma raime negatiuri Sedegi 

ar gamoiRos, magram misi saqmianobis 

Sesaxeb mxolod faqtebiTa da 

logikuri SedegebiT Tu vimsjelebT, 

is aris gmiri aseTi saxelmwifoebrivi 

usamarTlobebis 

winaaRmdeg brZolaSi! araerTxel 

iyo saubari imaze, rom „traqtorebis 

saqme” safuZvelia „kabelebis 

saqmisa”. veraferi daumtkices, arsad 

yofila raime msgavsi scenari, 

rodesac adamianebs aranairi Sexeba 

ar aqvT finansebTan da flangaven 

fuls, romelic maT ki ar 

mouTxoviaT, aramed es iyo jer 

soso ciskariSvili: 

`kabelebis saqmiT~ 

kidev erTxel 

SevrcxvebiT evropis 

sasamarTlos winaSe!~ 

sityva _ danaSauli SeiZleba iyos 

naxmari im periodTan mimarTebiT, 

rodesac isini qveyanas marTavdnen. 

Cven maTgan da mTlianad „nacionaluri 

moZraobisgan” wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

iSviaTad mainc vismenT 

xolme sityva _ Secdomas. aseTi xisti 

damokidebuleba realobasTan, 

rasakvirvelia, avnebs orive nawils, 

vidre ar iqneba mzaoba garkveuli 

monaniebisTvis. aseTi winapiroba 

SeiZleboda mogvesmina mxolod 

gigi ugulavas emociuri gamosvlebisas, 

rodesac is TviTkritikuli 

iyo da saubrobda ukeTesi 

qmedebis aucileblobaze imas- 

Tan SedarebiT, rac gasul wlebSi 

iyo „nacionaluri moZraobis” qveS 

myof saqarTveloSi. aseTi midgomebisgan, 

rasakvirvelia, distancirdeba 

da am Temaze saerTod ar 

fiqrobs „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

is nawili, romlisTvisac saTauri 

yvelaze ufro didi faseulobis 

politikuri Semadgenelia. ra 

sikeTe SeiZleba qveynisTvis moviZioT 

im SemTxvevaSi, Tu davrwmundebiT, 

rom ukve srulfasovani 

ori „nacionaluri moZraobaa”? _ 

amas gansazRvravs konstituciuri 

umravlesobiT parlamentSi mosuli 

„qarTuli ocneba”, gamomdinare 

sakuTari qmedebebidan da gancxadebebidan, 

rasac, rasakvirvelia, 

raime saxis standartuli Sefasebebi 

ar eqneba. saxezea sruliad 

mkafio upiratesoba „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” mier okupirebuli mediasivrcis, 

upirveles yovlisa, 

vgulisxmob satelevizio sivrces. 

amasTan SedarebiT surs, rom kidev 

ufro warmatebiT mogvaCvenos 

Tavi telekopania „imedma”, romelmac 

nel-nela amouwura imedi Cvens 

mayureblebs, rom am telekompanias 

eqneba SesaZlebloba, kvlav cdilobdes 

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de, rom gvsurs Tu ara, Cveni qveynis 

winamZRvari, batoni ivaniSvili, 

is adamiani iqneba, romelmac es 

gadawyvetileba unda miiRos. TavisTavad, 

es samarcxvino faqti iqneba 

Cveni saxelmwifosTvis. rasakvirvelia, 

aRniSnuli fraza „qarTuli 

ocnebis” risxvas gamoiwvevs, 

magram dumilis dro iwureba. Cven 

mowmeni varT araTu saxelmwifosi, 

aramed, aswlovani xeebis mwyemsic 

batoni biZinaa. mas rogori sikeTec 

ar unda surdes qveynisTvis, imdeni 

mliqvneli hyavs garSemo, rom 

realobasTas misi miaxloeba seriozulad 

gaWirdeba. nuravis egoneba, 

rom sazogadoeba Tavs ityuebs 

im frazeologiiT, romelsac parlamentis 

axalbeda Tavmjdomarisgan 

vismenT. misi duduni CvenTvis 

mimaniSnebelia imisa, rom saqarTvelos 

konstituciis bedi gadawyvetilia 

da yvelaze miuRebeli 

sakiTxebi sazogadoebisTvis, praqtikulad, 

ukve winaswar aris nakarnaxevi 

da, Sesabamisad, gamzadebuli 

gasajaroebisTvis. 

_ prezidentma sasamarTlo 

sistemis reformis e. w. mesame 

talRasTan dakavSirebul pakets 

veto daado. ramdenad gaqvT imis 

gancda, rom parlamenti prezi- 

dentis SeniSvnebs gaiTvaliswi- 

nebs? saerTod, aqvs Tu ara azri 

vetos, rodesac misi gadalaxvis 

problema ar arsebobs „qarTuli 

ocnebis” sakonstitucio umrav- 

lesobis pirobebSi? 

_ Cemi azriT, es miuTiTebs prezidentis 

principulobaze. is, rasakvirvelia, 

informirebulia, rom 

veto gadailaxeba, magram es kidev 

erTi samxili iqneba Cveni parlamentis 

umravlesobisTvis da winmswrebi 

ganwyobis mzaobaze moixmobs 

sazogadoebas, radgan Znelia 

vivaraudoT, rom batoni biZinas 

amarTlo mainc migveaxlovebina 

dedaqalaqisTvis da quTaisSi yofiliyo 

dabinavebuli? 

_ evrosasamarTlom meored 

daiwuna saqarTvelos mier ward- 

genili kandidatebi. sxvadasxva 

wreSi es fasdeba, rogorc samar- 

cxvino faqti da qveynis imijis 

Selaxva. Tqven rogor afasebT am 

sakiTxs, vin aris damnaSave? 

_ Cemi azriT, mTavari damnaSave 

gaxlavT is piri, romelmac qarTuli 

marTlmsajulebis simbolod 

kiserze Camogvkida batoni murusiZe. 

aman gamoiwvia Semdgomi nabijebi 

da marTlac maRali kvalifikaciis 

iuristis, sakmaod warmatebuli 

mecnieris, saintereso profesiuli 

wignebis avtoris, eva 

gociriZis metamorfoza. CemTvis 

Zalian sawyenia, rom „damoukidebel 

eqspertTa klubis” yofilma 

wevrma, rac ar unda xanmokle yofiliyo 

misi arseboba Cvens klub- 

Si, ver SeZlo sakuTari principulobis 

gamoxatva da misi nabiji im 

kenWisyrisas, rodesac namvilad 

gansxvavebuli molodini hqonda 

Cveni klubis ramdenime aTeul 

wevrs, sawinaaRmdego aRmoCnda. gasagebia, 

rom qalbaton evas safuZveli 

hqonda madlierebisa im adamianis 

mimarT, vinc murusiZe gvianderZa, 

magram rac ar unda guldasawyveti 

iyos CemTvis, qalbatoni 

evas principulobis kvali ver 

davinaxe da miuxedavad imisa, rom 

vcdilobdi, Sesabamisi pirebi damerwmunebina, 

rom igi saintereso 

kandidati iqneboda uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomareobisa, mivxvdi, 

rom Sevcdi. bodiSi maqvs mosaxdeli 

maTTvis, visac me am winadadebiT 

mivmarTavdi. 

_ batono soso, prezidentma 

„kabelebis saqmeze” dakavebulebi 

Seiwyala. amis miuxedavad, bra- 

hqonda mkafio gansazRvrebebi da 

midgomebi rogorc aSS-s departamentis 

saxelmwifo iuridiuli samsaxuris 

mier SemoTavazebuli poziciisa, 

aseve ramdenime qveynis 

elCis mier prokuraturisTvis mier 

miwvdili werilebiT. sabolood, 

davrwmundiT: miuxedavad imisa, 

rom 20 eqsperts erTi saerTo 

pozicia hqonda am dokumentebze 

dayrdnobiT, im informaciiT, rasac 

viRebdiT rogorc advokatisgan, 

aseve im wyaroebisgan, romlebic 

CarTuli iyvnen tenderSi, 

romelic danaSaulebrivad gamocxadda, 

batoni ivaniSvilisgan piroba 

gvqonda, rom Tu ar dadgindeboda 

maTi danaSauli, umal soflis 

meurneobis ministri kirvaliZe 

Tanamdebobaze dabrundeboda, 

xolo prokurori _ daisjeboda, 

magram ase ar moxda. amis Semdeg 

damkvidrda wesi, rom udanaSaulo 

adamianebis dakaveba gagrZeldeboda 

im scenariT, romelmac „traqtorebis 

saqmeze” Sedegi gamoiRo. 

sruliad udanaSaulo adamianebi 

awames, awvales, aiZulebdnen eRiarebinaT 

ararsebuli danaSauli, 

dabolos, aqtiuri sazogadebrivi 

Carevebisa da saerTaSoriso wyaroebisTvis 

miuReblobiT moaxerxes 

is, rom es adamianebi ki ganTavisufldebodnen, 

magram raRac danaSauls 

mainc miawerdnen. rasakvirvelia, 

sasowarkveTilebi amaze 

Tanxmdebian da axla, rodesac mowmeni 

varT zustad im procesisa 

ukve „kabelebis saqmiT”, SemTxveviTi 

ar aris, rom orsave saqmes 

erTi da igive advokati hyavs soso 

baraTaSvilis saxiT, romelic Tavisi 

umaRlesi profesionalizmiT 

da gmiruli moqalaqeobrivi midgomiT 

aris cnobili. CemTvis isic 

cnobilia, rogor Seuvarda mas 

prokuratura saxlSi, rodesac 

praRidan, im qveynis dedaqalaqidan, 

romlis traqtorebic iyo 

nayidi, mas dokumenti mouvida, 

rogorc advokats. misi Sinaarsi 

finansTa ministris, mere imdroindeli 

premier-ministris. Tanac am 

saqmeSi monawileobis sakiTxi pirnaTlad 

Seasrula „silqnetma” da 

Tavisi xarjic gaiRo im SemTxvevebisTvis, 

romelic ukeTesi iqneboda 

saqarTvelos usafrTxoebisTvis. 

rodesac xalxs apatimrebdnen, 

im Rames, romelsac win uswrebda 

Tavdacvis ministris xelmowera 

parizSi saqarTvelosTvis haersawinaaRmdego 

Tavdacvis sistemis Se- 

Zenaze, romelic daigmo, jer kidev, 

xelmoweramde ruseTis sagareo 

saqmeTa ministris mier, dRemde 

tovebs seriozul kiTxvebs, romelze 

pasuxic ar aris. Cemi azriT, 

aq danaSauli ar yofila. miuxedavad 

usindiso gamoZiebisa, ganTavisuflebis 

Jami rom dadga da ukve 

awuxebda am mzakvruli qmedebis 

iniciators, patimrobis vada Camoukles, 

magram udanaSaulo adamianebs 

mainc miakeres damnaSavis 

iarliyi. aqve iyo sruliad drouli 

da damajerebeli qmedeba prezidentisa. 

diax, es saqme daxura ara 

prokuraturam, ara sasamarTlom, 

aramed prezidentma, romelic am 

process didxans adevnebda Tvalyurs, 

ar iCqara, elodeboda, rom 

marTlmsajulebis yvela Sesabamis 

safexurs sakuTari azri gamoeTqva, 

magram rodesac darwmunda, rom 

sakasacio sasamarTlo, romlis 

gerbze, albaT, murusiZis portretia 

gamosaxuli, iqneboda mxolod 

borotebis damTesi, droulad Seiwyala 

sruliad udanaSaulo adamianebi, 

riTac maT saSualeba misca, 

ufro damajerebelni yofiliyvnen 

kasaciebisas, romelic eliT evropisken 

gzaze. kidev erTxel SevrcxvebiT 

evropis sasamarTlos winaSe 

„kabelebis saqmiT”, magram amis 

gamo sircxvilis gancda ar eqneba 

murusiZes, mas gamocdileba aqvs 

„girgvlianis saqmeze” udieri damokidebulebisa, 

aseve ar iqneba samarcxvino 

im adamianisTvis, romelmac 

saqarTvelos es usamarTlo 

piri qarTuli marTlmsajulebis 

simbolod moaxvia Tavs. 

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saqarTvelos warmomadgene- 

li strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa evropul sasamarTloSi 

evropis sabWos mosamarTleebis arCevis komitetma ver Sear- 

Cia. qarTuli mxaris mier wardgenili mosamarTleobis kandi- 

datebis sia, romelSic eva gociriZe, giorgi badaSvili da 

aleqsandre baramiZe Sediodnen, ukan daabrunes. savaraudod, 

saWiro gaxdeba xelaxali konkursis gamocxadeba, rasac 

garkveuli dro dasWirdeba, manamde ki strasburgis adamianis 

uflebaTa evropul sasamarTloSi saqarTvelos warmomadgen- 

lis adgili vakanturi iqneba. 

2017 wlis ianvarSi qarTveli 

mosamarTle evropul sasamarTloSi 

muSaobas rom ver Sudgeboda, 

amaze, jer kidev, gasul wels 

partia „evropeli demokratebis” 

liderma paata daviTaiam „qronika+”-Tan 

eqskluziurad isaubra 

da saqarTvelos mTavroba sicrueSi 

daadanaSaula. daviTaiam evropis 

sabWos mier ramdenime dRis 

win gamoqveynebuli moxsenebiTi 

baraTi gaasajarova, sadac aRwerilia, 

ra miswera saqarTvelos 

mTavrobam evropis sabWos da ra 

moatyua saqarTvelos mTavrobam 

evropis sabWos?! 

gasul wels saqarTvelos mTavrobam 

adamianis uflebaTa evropul 

sasamarTloSi saqarTvelodan 

asarCevi mosamarTleobis sami 

kandidati daamtkica. samTavrobo 

komisiis mier sajaro konkursis 

Sedegad SerCeuli xuTi kandidati 

mTavrobis sxdomas komisiis Tavmjdomare 

Tea wulukianma warudgina. 

mTavrobam wardgenili 

xuTi kandidatidan sami pirveli, 

saukeTeso qulis mqone piri Sear- 

Cia: aleqsandre baramiZe, uflebadamcveli 

da yofili advokati 

adamianis uflebaTa evropul 

sasamarTloSi, saqarTvelos iusticiis 

ministris pirveli moadgile; 

giorgi badaSvili, strasburgis 

sasamarTlos ufrosi iuristi 

2005 wlidan; da nana mWedliZe, 

adamianis uflebaTa evropuli 

konvenciis specialisti, amJamad 

saqarTveloSi evropis sabWosa da 

evrokavSiris erToblivi proeqtis 

konsultanti. strasburgis 

sasamarTloSi saqarTvelodan ar- 

Ceul mosamarTle nona woworias 

vada 2017 wlis ianvarSi amoewura. 

strasburgis sasamarTloSi 

saqarTvelodan warsadgeni sami 

kandidatis SerCevis konkretulad 

gawerili da gamWvirvale procedura 

qveynis SigniT ar arsebobda. 

2015 wlis dekemberSi mTavrobis 

mier pirvelad gaiwera strasburgis 

sasamarTloSi saqarTvelodan 

asarCevi mosamarTleobis 

kandidatTa SerCevis wesi. 

gamocxadda sajaro konkursi, ris 

Sedegadac mosamarTleobis survili 

msurvelma 47-ma kandidatma 

gamoTqva. 47 kandidatidan SeirCa 

13 saukeTeso. maT jer testireba 

gaiares evropis sabWos erT-erT 

oficialur enaSi, Semdeg ki _ gasaubreba 

samTavrobo komisiasTan. 

samTavrobo komisiis SemadgenlobaSi 

iyvnen aRmasrulebeli, sakanonmdeblo 

da sasamarTlo xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebi, saqarTvelos 

mTavari prokuroris 

pirveli moadgile, advokatTa asociaciis 

Tavmjdomare, saqarTvelos 

saxalxo damcveli, arasamTavrobo 

organizaciebisa da akademiuri 

wreebis warmomadgenlebi. 

mogvianebiT, saqarTvelos 

mTavrobam, kandidatTa sampirian 

siaSi, nana mWedliZis kandidaturis 

nacvlad saqarTvelos iusticiis 

umaRlesi sabWos wevr eva 

gociriZis kandidatura Seiyvana. 

rogorc iusticiis saministroSi 

ganmartes, eva gociriZe im xuT 

saukeTeso kandidats Soris aris, 

romlebic specialurad am mizniT 

Seqmnilma samTavrobo komisiam, 

aRmasrulebeli, sasamarTlo da 

sakanonmdeblo xelisuflebis, 

arasamTavrobo seqtoris, akademiuri 

wreebisa da advokatTa asociaciis 

maRali warmomadgenlebis 

monawileobiT, sajaro konkursis 

gziT SearCia da, mogvianebiT, 

saboloo gadawyvetilebis miRebis 

mizniT, saqarTvelos mTavrobas 

warudgina. 29-30 seqtembers adamianis 

uflebaTa evropuli sasamarTlos 

mosamarTleTa SesarCevi 

komitetis sxdoma gaimarTa, romelzedac 

saqarTvelodan wardgenil 

3 kandidatTan (eva gociriZe, 

aleqsandre baramiZe, giorgi badaSvili) 

gasaubreba Sedga. mocemul 

sxdomaze kenWisyris procedura 

ar Catarebula, Sesabamisad, 

sam wevrs Soris gamarjvebuli, 

romelic Semdeg saparlamento 

asambleam unda airCios, ar gamovlenila. 

sxdoma momdevno 2017 

wlis ianvrisTvis gadaido, romelmac 

qarTuli mxaris mier wardgenili 

mosamarTleobis kandidatebis 

sia ukan daabruna. savaraudod, 

saWiro gaxdeba xelaxali 

konkursis gamocxadeba, rasac 

garkveuli dro dasWirdeba, manamde 

ki strasburgis adamianis 

uflebaTa evropul sasamarTlo- 

Si saqarTvelos warmomadgenlis 

adgili vakanturi iqneba. 

am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT 

„qronika+”-s esaubreba partia 

„evropeli demokratebis” lid- 

eri, paata daviTaia: 

_ Tqveni gazeTi pirveli iyo, 

sadac prognozi gavakeTe, rom am 

mosamarTleebis kandidaturebi 

ar gavidodnen. me viyavi mosamarTleTa 

SerCeviTi komitetis 

wevri da vici, rogor muSaobs es 

sistema. zustad Tqveni gazeTis 

meSveobiT gavaJRere, rom saqar- 

Tvelos mTavrobam komiteti SecdomaSi 

Seiyvana da es Riad gavaxmaureT. 

saqarTvelos mTavrobam 

evropis sabWos imasTan dakavSirebiT 

miswera, rom SerCevis procesi 

JurnalistebisTvis Tavisufali 

iyo. rac Seexeba komitetis mosamarTleTa 

kandidatebis Ser- 



paata daviTaia: 

àmaze meti sircxvili 

ra unda iyos, 

rodesac qarTveli 

mosamarTle 

strasburgis 

sasamarTloSi 

kvalifikacias 

ver akmayofilebs?!~ 

CeviT sxdomebs, romelic Tbilis- 

Si tardeboda, gaxsovT, mas arc 

erTi Jurnalisti ar daswrebia. 

xelisufleba acxadebda, TiTqos 

daswreba Tavisufali iyo, magram 

Jurnalistebi ar mividnen, rac 

sruli absurdi da tyuilia. meore 

tyuli iTqva, rom TiTqos Jurnalistebs 

gasaubrebis Canawerebi 

gadasces da es iyo sajaro, esec 

didi tyuilia. Tqvenma gazeTma 

pirvelma gaagzavna werili, rom 

es Canawerebi gadmoecaT, magram 

ar gadmouciaT, mTavrobam ki 

evropis sabWoSi gaagzavna werili, 

rom es yvelaferi gakeTda, romelic 

absoluturi tyuili iyo! me, 

rogorc komitetis yofilma wevrma, 

isini saqmis kursSi Cavayene, 

rom es iyo tyuili, brifingic Cavatare 

da Tqvenma gazeTmac gaa- 

Suqa. aqedan gamomdinare, pirvel 

rigSi, aseTi kiTxva daibada, _ ratom 

tyuis mTavroba? ratom aris 

gasaidumloebuli kimitetze mosamarTleTa 

kandidatebis aseTi 

SerCeva? mesame _ gaxsovT, rom 

erT-erTi kandidati eva gociriZis 

kandidaturiT Caanacvles, ratom 

moxda es Secvla da ratom ar 

iyo es sajaro? bevri kiTxva ibadeba, 

Semdgom daiwyo politikuri 

zewolebi komitetis wevrebze da 

saqarTvelos mTavrobam berketebi 

gamoiyena. 

_ ra zewolaze saubrobT? 

_ pirvelad gavaJRereb Tqven- 

Tan: CvenTvis cnobili gaxda, rom 

davosSi, rodesac kvirikaSvili 

poroSenkos Sexvda, saqarTvelos 

premier-ministrma sakiTxi daayena, 

rom ukrainis deputatebs, romlebic 

mosamarTleTa SerCevis 

qvekomitetis wevrebi arian, xma 

miecaT am mosamarTleebisTvis. es 

aris politikuri zewola da ase- 

Ti gancxadeba yovlad miuRebelia! 

kvirikaSvils ki ar unda „eCaliCa” 

da ase ki ar unda yofiliyo 

kandidatebis gayvana, aramed 

maSin unda elaparaka gia cercvaZis 

gamoSvebasTan dakavSirebiT 

da ara viRac kandidatebis 

gayvanaze. swored es niSnavs politikur 

zewolas! komiteti uaxloes 

dReebSi gamoaqveynebs daskvnas 

_ Tu ratom iqna uaryofili 

es kandidatebi, es aris Tavidan 

bolomde qveynis sircxvili! rogor, 

saqarTvelodan 2017 wlis 17 

ianvars ukve axal mosamarTles 

unda daewyo strasburgSi muSaoba 

da xelisuflebam ver moaxerxa, 

rom normaluri mosamarTleTa 

kandidati SeerCia, romelic kvalifikacias 

akmayofilebda. pirdapir 

komitetis daskvnaSi Caiwereba, 

rom arakvalificiuri kandidatebi 

iyvnen da politikuri berketebi 

gamoiyenes, amaze meti 

sircxvili ra SeiZleba iyos?! 

_ axla ra procedurebi iqne- 

ba saWiro? 

_ axla Cven axali konkursi 

unda CavataroT, imedia, kidev ar 

SevrcxvebiT, normalur konkurss 

Caatareben da normalur kandidats 

airCeven, romelic kvalifikacias 

daakmayofilebs, magram 

amas mTelma saqarTvelom Tvalyuri 

unda vadevnoT imitom, rom 

es mosamarTle „ocnebis” mosamar- 

Tle ki ar iqneba, es iqneba saqarTvelos 

warmomadgeneli evropis 

sabWos adamianis uflebaTa dacvis 

sasamarTloSi. amitom aris 

sajaro es konkursi Tavidan bolomde. 

axal konkurss unda velodoT, 

magram rodesac aseTi Cavardna 

xdeba, im pirebis politikuri 

pasuxismgebloba unda dadges, 

vinc es gaakeTa, dawyebuli iusticiis 

ministridan, damTavrebuli 

komisiis wevrebiT, radgan komisiis 

wevrebs kandidatebis Sefaseba 

zogs nuli hqonda, rac absurdi 

iyo da imaT, visac maRali 

Sefasebebi hqondaT, kriteriumebi 

ver daakmayofiles, rogorc 

arakvalificiurma mosamarTleebma. 

es sircxvilia! darwmunebuli 

var, amis Semdeg sazogadoebrivi 

kontroli Zalian didi iqneba, es 

kontroli unda iyos da unda 

vnaxoT, amis Semdeg rogor kandidaturebs 

warmoadgenen. erTi sityviT, 

axali konkursi Catardeba 

da „axali erToba saqarTvelos- 

Tvis” romelic Seiqmna, mTavrobis 

mimarT specialur mimarTvas gaakeTebs 

brifingze _ Tu ra kriteriumebs 

unda akmayofilebdnen 

kandidatebi. Tu maT ar ician, Cven 

avuxsniT, rogor unda iyos. ar 

aris sircxvili, roca ucodinari 

xar, imisgan gaigo, vinc icis. 

_ Tqven xarT haagis saerTa- 

Soriso sisxlis samarTlis sasa- 

marTlos asociaciis wevri, ra 

axali informacia gaqvT agvistos 

omis gamoZiebis Taobaze? 

_ agvistos omis sakiTxi iciT, 

rom didi Temaa da Tqvenc araerTxel 

gagiSuqebiaT. midis gamo- 

Zieba, gamoZiebaSi am wuTas ra xdeba, 

simarTle giTxraT, ar vici, 

radgan daxuruli informaciaa. 

aris garkveuli qmedebebi, romelic 

Cven gavaSuqeT da saubaria 

imaze, ratom daiwyo es gamoZieba 

haagam, rodesac Cven TviTon 

vTqviT uari. iq iusticiis ministris 

werili iyo, _ gamoZiebas imis 

gamo ver vaxorcielebT, rom okupirebul 

teritoriaze mcxovrebi 

mosaxleoba SeiZleba safrTxis 

qveS Cavardes. es xom sruli absurdia! 

haagam gamoZieba rom daiwyo, 

mosaxleoba safrxis qveS ar 

aris? aq gaCnda kiTxva, rom qveyanas 

ar surs gamoiZios. Tu ratom 

ar surs, amaze haagis prokuratura 

ukve muSaobs. es SemiZlia vTqva, 

ra informaciac maqvs. yofili 

ssr kavSiridan mxolod me var 

haagis saerTaSoriso sisxlis samarTlis 

sasamarTlos asociaciis 

wevri, aqedan gamomdinare, vici, 

rogor muSaobs es sistema, movlenebs 

ver gavuswreb. vnaxoT, rogor 

wava procesebi. 

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`moqkavSiridan~ _ `nacebSi~, `nacebidan~ _ `qocebSi~ 

saqarTvelo tradiciebis moy- 

demna veSapiZe 

varuli qveyanaa. ar aqvs mniSvneloba, 

es tradiciebi Zvelia Tu axa- 

li. mTavaria, tradicia wina Taobebidan, an winamorbedidan 

modiodes. tradiciebi exeba xan sufras da sadRegrZelos, xanac 

_ politikur qmedebebs, magaliTad, kanonebis sakuTar Tavze 

morgebas. es erT-erTi yvelaze sayvareli tradiciaa, romlis 

dacvazec yovelTvis xelisuflebaSi myofi partia zrunavs. 

kanonicaa da kanonic. gansakuTrebul 

mniSvnelobas samTavrobo 

partiebi konstituciis 

Secvlasa da mis sakuTar tanze 

morgebis tradicias aniWeben. 

magaliTad, 2003 wlamde qarTuli 

opozicia erTxmad acxadebda, 

rom SevardnaZe konstitucias 

kostiumiviT icvamso, 

qveynis mTavari kanoni babuzea 

morgebuli da yvelaferi misi 

Zalauflebis ganmtkicebas emsaxurebao. 

revoluciis, kerZod, 2006 

wlis sakonstitucio cvlilebebis 

Semdeg, qarTvelma erma 

aRmoaCina, rom, Turme, „sad 

vbanaobT”, _ vis dakargvia SevardnaZe, 

roca saakaSvilis sakonstitucio 

madam mTeli Zalaufleba 

gadasansla?.. 

wina xelisuflebis mier gaupatiurebul 

konstituciaSi, 

erTi SexedviT, sakuTar Tavze 

mosargebi aRaraferi darCa, magram 

mTavaria mondomeba da 

rogorc ityvian, „konstitucia” 

ori xeliT iWmevao. 

Zalauflebis deficiti ar 

igrZnoba, magram personaluri 

wyenebi zogierTs dRemde mosvenebas 

ar aZlevs. konstituciaSi 

kuluaruli mmarTvelobis 

legalizeba ar gamova, magram 

legalizebulis CamorTmeva 

ra problemaa? 

biZina aRrenilia margvelaSvilze 

da amitom prezidenti 

xalxma aRar unda airCios. pirdapir 

parlamentma unda dani- 

Snos. TiTqosda, ra uSavs? saparlamento 

modelebSi xom asea? 

Tumca, ai, ra uSavs: 

prezidentis pirdapiri wesiT 

arCevis gauqmeba mospobs 

xelisuflebis im erTaderT instituts, 

romelic, jer kidev, 

ar aris biZina ivaniSvilis jibeSi. 

qveyanaSi aRar iarsebebs 

saxelisuflebo Sto, romelsac 

gansxvavebuli azri eqneba. 

prezidentis pirdapiri arCevis 

wesi Tu Seicvala, 2018 

wels prezidentis daniSvna 

dRevandel parlaments mouwevs. 

Sedegad ki miviRebT, rom 

prezidents, romelsac dRes 

50%-ze meti amomrCevliT vir- 

CevT, daniSnavs partia „qarTuli 

ocneba”, romelic parlamentSi 

amomrCevelTa mxolod 

48%-iT Sevida. 

cota komikurad ki JRers, 

magram faqtia, rom prezidentis 

arCeviTobis gauqmebis Semdeg 

saqarTveloSi yvelaze ma- 

Rali legitimaciis mqone figura 

Tbilisis meri iqneba. mas 

yvelaze meti moqalaqe, milioniani 

dedaqalaqis amomrCevli 

airCevs. warmoidgineT, yvelaze 

maRali legitimaciis 

mqone politikosi qveyanaSi 

daviT narmania rom iqneba. 

daniSnuli prezidentis pirobebSi, 

saerTod, kiTxvis niSnis 

qveS dgeba merebisa da gamgeblebis 

pirdapiri arCevis wesic. 

Tu meocnebeebsa da maT ufross 

klasikuri saparlamento 

respublika undaT, maSin, ase- 

Ti respublika unda undodeT 

yvela doneze da xelisuflebis 

yvela StosTan mimarTebiT. 

_ prezidenti daniSnuli minda, 

xolo meri _ arCeuli, ar gamodis. 

klasikur saparlamento qveynebSi, 

sadac prezidenti parlamentis 

mier iniSneba, merebsa 

da gamgeblebs sakrebuloebi 

niSnaven. saparlamento modelis 

dedaazric esaa. qveyanaSi 

legitimaciis yvelaze maRali 

xarisxi unda hqondes sakanonmdeblo 

organos da aravin 

unda idges parlamentze, xolo 

municipalur doneze _ sakrebuloze 

maRla. 

bunebrivad mivdivarT legitimur 

kiTxvamde: aris Tu ara 

qarTveli eri mzad, bolo wlebis 

erT-erT umniSvnelovanes 

politikur monapovars, merebisa 

da gamgeblebis pirdapiri 

arCevis wess, Seelios?!! albaT, 

ufro, _ ara. 

„qarTulma ocnebam” sakonstitucio 

komisiisTvis samuSao 

vada oTxi TviT gansazRvra. 

uprecedentod mcire droa. 

aqedan erTi Tve ukve gavida. 

samuSao procesi jer ar dawyebula, 

mxolod mosazrebebisa 

da poziciebis gaJRerebis 

etapia. samagierod, bevrs aqvs 

eWvi da, arcTu usafuZvlo, 

rom „qocebs” ukve mzad aqvT is 

sakonstitucio cvlilebebi, 

romlis „gasapravebladac” Seqmnes 

es komisia. am eWvebs Tavad 

meocnebeebi amyareben. ukve 

Riad acxadeben, rom prezidentis 

arCevis wesi gadasaxedia. 

ra dasamalia da quTaisidan 

parlamenti TbilisSia gadmosatani. 

sul ramdenime dRis win ga- 

JRerda, rom „qarTuli ocneba” 

politikuri blokebisa da koaliciebis 

saerTod gauqmebas 

apirebs. rogorc Cans, xelisuflebas, 

romelmac wina xelisufleba 

koaliciuri gaerTianebiT 

daamarcxa, axla sxvisi koaliciebis 

Seqma uxeTqavs guls. 

yvela am arapopularuli 

cvlilebis gadasafarad ki 

konstituciaSi qorwinebis gansazRvreba 

Caiwereba. anu Tu 

vinmes romelime cvlileba ar 

mogwonT, SeecadeT, qalisa da 

mamakacis Canawerze ifiqroT 

da nervic ar ageSlebaT. saocnebo 

qarTuli televiziebic 

ar daiSureben Zalisxmevas da 

Tavis saeTero dros mxolod 

saocnebo sakonstitucio cvlilebebze 

saubars dauTmoben. 

ver avuvliT gverds iseT 

sakonstitucio proeqtebs, romlebic 

„qarTul ocnebas” WiriviT 

ejavreba, magram komisiis 

sxva wevrebi Tavisas mainc ar 

iSlian. erT-erTi aseTi principuli 

Tema saarCevno sistemis 

cvlilebaa. maJoritaruli 

sistemis gauqmeba am cvlilebis 

mTavari moTxovnaa. 

rogori obieqturobis gar- 

Tulebac ar unda gqondes 

kacs, Zalian Znelia dRevandel 

saarCevno sistemaSi pozitivis 

moZebna, gansakuTrebiT bolo 

ori sayovelTao arCevnebis 

Semdeg. 

adgilobriv arCevnebze, 

TbilisSi, „qarTulma ocnebam” 

amomrCevelTa mxolod 44% miiRo, 

magram Tbilisis sakrebuloSi 

partiam, TiTqmis, deputatebis 

80% Seiyvana. daaxloebiT 

igive moxda saparlamentozec. 

„ocnebam”, romelmac 

amomrCevelTa mxolod 48% miiRo, 

parlamentSi 117 deputati, 

anu 78% Seiyvana. es ki 

niSnavs, rom erTmandatian ma- 

Joritarul sistemas 

„saswaulebis” moxdena SeuZlia. 

oRond, es jadosnuri joxi mxolod 

xelisuflebis xelSia da 

mxolod xelisuflebidan xelisuflebaSi 

gadadis: „moqkav- 

Siridan” _ „nacebSi”, „nacebidan” 

_ „qocebSi” da ase gagr- 

Zeldeba ukuniTi ukunisamde, 

Tu es Caketili wre sadRac ar 

gairRva. 

arada, logikurad rom vimsjeloT, 

ratom unda dasTanxmdes 

„ocneba” opozicias da ratom 

unda Secvalos es kanfetiviT 

sistema? rom ara is, 

dRes „qocebs” parlamentSi sakonstitucio 

ki ara, ubralo 

umravlesobac ar eqnebodaT, 

48%-iT mxolod 72 deputats 

dasjerdebodnen. amitomac 

saarCevno sistemis cvlileba 

ufro opoziciis ocnebad dar- 

Ceba, vidre „ocnebis” prioritetad. 

da mere ra, rom Tavad „ocnebis” 

83-ma deputatma, wina 

parlamentSi, maJoritarebis 

gauqmebis moTxovniT, sakonstitucio 

iniciativac ki moamzada?! 

Tu vinmes es gulwrfeli 

nabiji egona, mwared Secda... 

ver Secvales firfita axal 

parlamentSi, Tu ra?! maSin 

gvWirdebodao, axla aRar gvWirdebao, 

ase rom, daiviwyeTo. 

„qarTul ocnebas” sakonstitucio 

komisia politikuri 

SeTanxmebisTvis da konsensusisTvis 

rom ar sWirdeba, es Tavidanve 

kargad gamoCnda. oci 

kvalificiuri politikuri 

subieqtidan camets rom komisiaSi 

ar Seiyvan, e. i. dialogi 

da konsensusi ar gainteresebs. 

konsensusi arc im Svid opoziciur 

partiasTan ainteresebT, 

romlebic komisiaSi arian warmodgenilni. 

iseTi piri uCans, 

rom eseni mxolod antura- 

JisTvis arian saWiro. 

aprilis bolos komisias „gapraveba” 

dasWirdeba. sainteresoa, 

Svidi opoziciuri partiidan 

romeli „dauwveba” „ocnebas”? 

Tumca, albaT, iseTebic 

iqnebian, romlebic demarSsac 

moawyoben, yovel SemTxvevaSi, 

bevrs aseTi ram winaswar daanonsebuli 

aqvs. Tumca demarSi, 

Semdgomi gagrZelebebis gare- 

Se, konstitucias morigi gaupatiurebisgan 

namdvilad ver 

ixsnis. amisTvis, albaT, ufro 

masStaburi da droSi gawerili 

qmedebebia saWiro. aseTi procesis 

sulis Camdgmeli dRes 

mxolod prezidentis instituti 

SeiZleba iyos, romelsac 

legitimuri ufleba aqvs, gabrazebuli 

iyos. erTi kacis „xuSturis 

gamo” mas, praqtikulad, 

gauqmebas upireben. 

Tumca mTavari kiTxva aq sxvaa. 

kerZod, rogor uyurebs 

prezidenti margvelaSvili Tavis 

momavals 2018 wlis Semdeg?.. 

Tu mas duSeTSi pomidvris 

moyvana aqvs gadawyvetili, ma- 

Sin yvelaferi gasagebia, magram 

Tu pensionerobas jer ar apirebs, 

misi aseTi pasiuroba yovlad 

gaugebaria... 

6 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.

marifaTi kargi oxeri ram aris, 

maka mosiaSvili 

yvelgan gamosadegia _ politika- 

599 97 25 55 

Sic, ekonomikaSic, kulturaSic da 

mecnierebaSic. zogadad, umarif- 

aTo kaci usargeblo da didi zaralia rogorc ojaxSi, aseve 

qveyanaSic. gansakuTrebuli marifaTi ki saxelmwifo moxeles 

sWirdeba, magram marifaTi iqiT iyos, marifaTis garda adamians 

Sno unda, Sno, rom kacad iqces da Tavisi saqmec marifaTi- 

anad Seasrulos. 

cxovrebaSi erTxel yovel- 

Tvis isvris „avrora” vinmesTvis, 

cxovrebaSi erTxel yovelTvis 

gaZlevs Sanss bedi, an 

gamoiyeneb, an _ ara. ai, maSin 

Sno ginda, rom bedi gamogadg- 

samsaxuri SesTavaza stalinma. 

kacma iucxova saxelmwifo samsaxurSi 

mniSvnelovan Tanamdebobaze 

muSaoba da belads pirdapir 

uTxra: me rom fexi ar 

maqvs?! beladmac auRelveblad 


bad mjera Tqveni Rrmad ganswavlulobisa, 

rom Cems redaqtors 

rames moatyuebdiT, magram 

mainc); 

3. yvela Tqveni da Seni dagegmili 

e. w. specoperacia warumatebeli 

aRmoCnda. 

da, ai, aq ismis mTavari kiTxva, 

_ maS, ra aris warmateba?! 

Sen ivaniSvils marTla gulwrfelad 

SeuTvale da uTxari, 

rom misi erTguli iyavi da misi 

yvela moTxovna-davaleba Sesrulebuli 

gqonda. isic Tqvi, 

rom rac qveynisTvis saWiro da 

aucilebeli iyo, yvelaferi 

kud-s rom SeucvaleT saxeli 

da sus-i daarqviT, sxva ra gaakeTeT?! 

imas ar CagiTvliT, sadac 

vinmes vinme miugzavneT, 

yvelgan rom scena CageSalaT; 

erTi davarcxnil-dalagebuli 

niRbosani rom ar gyavT da yovel 

orSabaTs erTi sadardebeli 

rom aris sus-is sammarTveloebis 

ufrosebis Tavs, _ es 

saqme, neta, vis mivceo? 

sul xuTi kaci rom amoiCemeT 

am saxelmwifoSi da imis iqiT 

ki araferi rom ar gadardebT; 

qveyana ruseTis agentebiT 

gagevsoT, ubnebi _ Zveli biWe- 

_ magas ver gaigebT, amJamad 

gansakuTrebuli aqcenti samegrelozea, 

naxevari samsaxuri 

adgilze ar aris. 

_ ra xdeba samegreloSi? 

_ rTuli suraTia, Zalian 

rTuli, 2017 wlis arCevnebze 

wageba mosalodnelia, wageba ki 

TamaSis wesebs ar eqvemdebareba. 

gikvirs, xom, „qronika+”-s 

rom ar giteven es bolo kvira?! 

erTi Tve daisvenebT, albaT. 

gazafxulidan isev ganmeordeba 

Tavdasxmebi. mediaTvalsazrisiT 

rom unda agitexon 

omi, es ki ici. 

es, mere ki marifaTi, rom is 

Sansi bolomde gamoiyeno. 

da Cveni biWis istoriac ase 

daiwyo: 

rogorc XX saukunis dasawyisSi 

iyo, viRacas Sno gamouCndeboda 

Tu ara, lideri revolucioneri 

xdeboda, mere ki 

es lideri pozicias eZebda ukve 

saxelmwifo marTvaSi dasakaveblad 

_ an umarTlebda, an _ 

ara. maSin iyo saWiro is marifaTi. 

radgan Cveni rubrikac sosos 

eqskluziuri gverdia, isev 

sosos istoriiT daviwyoT: 

rogor fiqrobda da rogorc 

eqceoda soso qveSevrdomebs? 

rogor asaqmebda didi beladi 

ucxo adamianebs? ra doziT 

sTavazobda maT saqmes da ra 

pasuxismgeblobis zRvari hqonda 

dawesebuli maT Soris? anu 

mixvdi, soso, xom?! im XX saukunis 

Snoian da marifaTian kacze 

giyvebi. erTxel erT kacs 

upasuxa: fexi ra mosatania, Se 

kaco, Sens winamorbeds Tavi ar 

hqonda da fexs vinRa Civiso? 

asea, ra mosatania Seni axali 

kostiumi? an Seni sigara, qveynis 

sasacilo rom gaixade Tavi? 

mTavaria, saqmes Tavi gaar- 

Tvi Tu vera. 

ra Tqma unda, _ vera! es Senc 

ici da amaze ar vdaobT. 

da Tu mainc ikiTxav, ratom 

ver gavarTvio? maSin, Sensave 

u-sus-urobis ambebs CamogiTvli! 

1. ideis avtori Sen ar yofilxar, 

rom „qronika+”-Si 

faruli kadrebi aRmoCeniliyo. 

magaSi piradad me darwmunebuli 

var, radgan Seni da marnis 

biWebis gaciebuli urTierTobebis 

ambavi vici; 

2. Seni roli mniSvnelovani 

imiT unda yofiliyo, rom saqme 

ise warmarTuliyo, eliso kilaZes 

Tqveni CaxlarTuli amocanebi 

ver amoecno (me ki nakle- 

ambavi sosos u-sus-urobisa! 

gaakeTe, magram, ai, sad dagWirda 

marifaTi. cxonebuli bebia- 

Cemi ityoda xolme: yvela Zroxa 

ki iwveleba rZes, magram yvelasgan 

ki ver deddeba mawonio. 

yvela ayvanili da daqiravebuli 

agenti gageSifra. vinc 

samsaxurSi miiRe, bolos yvelam 

dagcina da zurgs ukan ixalisa. 

amdeni welia, sus-i gabaria 

da sakuTari gundi ver Secvale. 

amdeni welia, sus-Si meore 

kaci xar da isev 2012 wlamde 

myofi daTa axalaias kud-is 

Semadgenloba marTavs sus-s! 

ara, axalaias ki ar vamtyuneb, 

SenTan maqvs kiTxva, _ arc axalaias 

dahyolia saxelmwifo 

uSiSroebisTvis saWiro goneba 

dedis muclidan, manac iswavla 

da iSroma, magram 4 weliwadi 

sakuTari biZaSvilisa da ori 

naTesavis garda kadri rom ver 

ipove sus-isTvis, 4 weliwadi 

agentTa kartoTeka rom ver gamocvaleT, 

4 weliwadi mxolod 

biT; raionebi TurqeTsa da evropaSi 

mjdomma qurdebma rom 

gadainawiles, „obSiaki” rom gigrovdebaT, 

biznesi rom reket- 

Sia, eklesia rom feSqaSs iTxovs 

da Sen, kidev, generloba 

„pazikis” avtobusis „Sofroba” 

rom ggonia!!! 

amas hqvia umarifaTo da uSno 

kacis xvedri. glexi da erbo 

qilis ar iyos, erTxel gaisrola 

SenTvis „avroram”. ra iqneba 

xval da zeg, ukve aravin icis. 

Sen, ubralod, isev iseT ususurad 

darCi, rogoradac moxvedi. 

qoneba gonebas ar cvlis, 

qoneba gonebas abnelebs, ganaTeba 

ki naklebad SeuZlia. 

axla ki Cemi wyaro: 

_ wina wlebisgan gansxvavebiT 

yvelaze rTulad axla 

dgas gogaSvilis sakiTxi _ 

naklebi ndoba da sxva 

moadgileebs meti upiratesoba. 

_ gamovida samsaxurSi? 

_ mTavaria, qveyana... 

_ qveyanaze gamaxsenda: axla 

xom ar vCanvar, vin var, mova 

dro da Riad vityvi, vinc var, 

xom? hoda, maSin is dro iqneba, 

roca Riad ityvian, kazinoebis 

mepatroneebs yovel Tve ramdeni 

mihqondaT qeSad yvela regionis 

xelmZRvanel pirTan da 

yvelam icoda, rom fuli sososTanac 

midioda da sxvebTanac. 

_ darwmunebuli xarT?! 

_ dRes arafers vamtkiceb, 

dRes vambob: mova dro da esec 

gaxdeba cnobili, _ ara marto 

sososTan, aramed bevr sxvas- 

Tanac. ara uSavs, yvelafers 

Tavisi dro aqvs. sasacilo 

isaa, rom ianvarSi gadayrilebi 

iqnebian, mizezi ki SuSis sasaxleSi 

ikiTxon, ratom veRar 

aiReben fuls. 

amasobaSi, qarTuli ocnebis 

axdenis mexuTe saukeTeso weliwadic 

daiwyo da Cveni sosos 

ususurobac zenits aRwevs! 


7

neli vardiaSvili 

597 11 12 47 

advokatTa asociaciis Tavmj- 

domare, zaza xatiaSvili, acxadebs, rom Tu xelisuflebaSi 

wesieri adamiani mova, aucileblad dasjis iusticiis umaRle- 

si sabWosa da uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomares, nino gven- 

etaZes, aseve iusticiis ministr Tea wulukiansa da sxvebs, 

romlebmac qveyanasa da sasamarTlo sistemaSi mdgomareoba ar 

gamoaswores da kidev ufro daamZimes. 

zaza xatiaSvili: 

_ nino gvenetaZe uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Zalian cudi Tavmjdomare 

aRmoCnda. man ver gaamarTla 

samoqalaqo sazogadoebis imedebi 

da, Cemi SefasebiT, gadaiqca, kaba- 

Si gamowyobil murusiZed. amitom 

mas bolo erTi welia, ase mivmar- 

Tav: nino gvenetaZe-murusiZisa, an 

murusiZe kabaSi. aseTi murusiZeebi 

bevrni arian, magram gvenetaZe 

unda gamxdariyo is adamiani, romelic 

sasamarTlos gakeTilSobilebasa 

da misi damoukideblobis 

process daiwyebda, magram is sruliad 

sawinaaRmdegod moiqca. yvelas 

kargad axsovs skandali, romelic 

gamocdebze im pirovnebis 

gamo moxda, romelic dakavSirebuli 

iyo nino gvenetaZe-murusiZesTan. 

is misi doqtoranti gaxldaT 

da mosamarTleTa gamocdebze 

100 qula miiRo. amaze erTi ambavi 

atyda da maSinve gvenetaZe-murusiZisken 

gaiSvires xeli. oficialuri 

gamoZiebac Catarda, romelmac 

ukanonobebi daadastura. magali- 

Tad is, rom bileTis sakiTxebi am 

adamianisTvis winaswar iyo cnobili 

da amisi Sedegi iyo aseTi maRali 

maCvenebelic. radgan gamoZiebam 

es 100%-iT daadastura, darCa 

is, rom am adamianisTvis brali unda 

waeyenebinaT, magram brals aravis 

uyenebs. Tu es imitom xdeba, 

rom damnaSave aris nino gvenetaZemurusiZisa, 

e. i. is ukve mTlianad 

moqceulia xelisuflebis gavlenis 

qveS. Tundac am faqtis gamo 

ukve imdenad marTvadi iqneba, rom 

uzenaesi sabWos Tavmjdomareobidan 

wasvlac rom undodes, aravin 

gauSvebs da bolomde kuTxeSi 

eyolebaT mimwyvdeuli. Cemi gancxadeba 

simarTlesTan axlosaa da amis 

damtkiceba bevri ramiT SeiZleba. 

magaliTad imiT, rom is loialurad 

iqceva iusticiis umaRles 

sabWoSi odiozuri figurebis mosamarTleebad 

daniSvnis dros. 

_ loialur moqcevaSi ras 

gulisxmobT? 

_ iusticiis sabWos Tavmjdomareobis 

dros mosamarTled kvlav 

dainiSnen levan murusiZe da 

mamia fxakaZe, romelic saakaSvilis 

dros Tbilisis saqalaqo sasa- 


marTlos Tavmjdomare iyo, aseve 

gvanca yufaraZis mosamarTle Tamar 

alania, romelic aseve erT-er- 

Ti murusiZea kabaSi. swored Tamar 

alaniam, iusticiis sabWos wevrebTan 

erTad, preskonferencia Caatara 

farul arCevnebamde ramdenime 

dRiT adre da ganacxada, _ Cven 

xmas vaZlevT levan murusiZeso. 

zaza xatiaSvili: 

`nino gvenetaZe 

gadaiqca kabaSi 

gamowyobil 

murusiZed!~ 

aseTi faqti msoflio istorias ar 

axsovs, rom mosamarTleebs CaetarebinoT 

preskonferencia msgavs 

viTarebaSi da eTqvaT, erT konkretul 

pirs vaZlevT xmaso da daer- 

RviaT sxvisi uflebebi. 

am periodSi saqarTveloSi Camosuli 

iyo mosamarTle amerikidan, 

konkretulad teqsasidan da mas 

amis Taobaze SekiTxva davusvi. mi- 

Txra, rom aseTi ram amerikaSi gamoricxulia, 

moxdes. msgavsi faqtis 

Semdeg, es adamiani, sazogadoebis 

zewolis Sedegad, aucileblad 

wavidoda sasamarTlodan da iuridiul 

sazogadoebaSic ver gamoCndebodao. 

anu yvelam icis, rom ase- 

Ti ram ar SeiZleba, magram gvenetaZe-murusiZisas 

iusticiis sab- 

Wos Tavmjdomareobis dros es adamiani 

kvlav mosamarTled dainiSna. 

ra Tqma unda, damnaSave gvenetaZea. 

aqedan gamomdinare, is aris 

iusticiis umaRlesi sabWos Zalian 

cudi Tavmjdomare, radgan yvelanairi 

ukanonoba, rac sircxvilad 

miiCneva saerTaSoriso asparezze, 

am sabWoSi kanondeba. 

_ bevri mas imiT amarTlebs, 

rom iusticiis sabWoSi gvenetaZes 

mxolod erTi xma aqvs da, faq- 

tobrivad, ar SeuZlia, raime 

Secvalos. ase ar aris? 

_ cxadia, es ase ar aris da mas 

mxolod erTi xma ar aqvs. parlamentis 

umravlesobam, anu „qarTulma 

ocnebam”, iusticiis umaRles 

sabWoSi airCia vaxtang Tordia, 

kaxa sofromaZe da eva gociriZe. am 

sameulma xma misca levan murusiZis 

kvlav mosamarTled arCevas. 

gociriZem CemTan teledebatebis 

dros ganacxada, _ murusiZe rom 

agverCia, amaze mTeli iusticiis 

sabWo winaswar viyaviT SeTanxmebulio. 

amis Sesaxeb icoda nino gvenataZemac 

da mas fufuneba hqonda, 

rom murusiZisTvis xma ar miecao. 

gociriZes simarTle wamoscda, 

rom murusiZis arCevis dros 

iusticiis sabWos wevrebs rolebi 

winaswar hqondaT ganawilebuli 

ise, rom murusiZe ar dazaralebuliyo 

da is kvlav gamxdariyo mosamarTle. 

aris Tu ara es, savaraudod, 

sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli? 

diaxac, rom aris. roca aseTi 

rameebi xdeba, normaluri xelisufleba 

rom gvyavdes, nino gvenetaZes, 

sxvagvarad Tu ar dasjidnen, 

Tanamdebobas mainc daatovebinebdnen. 

rodesac gociriZes pirdapir 

eTerSi simarTle wamoscda, 

vkiTxe, _ es iciT, rom sisxlis samarTlis 

danaSaulia-meTqi? da 

uceb feri dakarga. misi uneburi 

simarTle vTargmne da strasburg- 

Si waviRe, roca eva gociriZis kandidatura 

ixileboda evropis adamianis 

uflebaTa sasamarTlos mosamarTlis 

Tanamdebobaze, amitom, 

sruliad samarTlianad, misi kandidatura 

Cavarda. 

_ am speqtaklSi monawileoba- 

ze nino gvenetaZe rom ar daT- 

anxmebuliyo, levan murusiZes ver 

airCevdnen kvlav mosamarTled? 

_ ver airCevdnen imitom, rom 

gvenetaZe ityoda, am TamaSs kategoriulad 

vemijnebio. aqedan gamomdinare, 

verc rolebs gadaanawilebdnen. 

murusiZes 10 xma sWirdeboda 

da zustad amdeni xma miiRo 

kidevac imitom, rom „ocnebis” ar- 

Ceulma samive kandidatma mas dau- 

Wira mxari. is mosamarTleebi, romlebic 

„nacionalebis” dros aTasgvar 

sibinZureze awerdnen xels, 

kvlav mosamarTleebad mogvevlinen 

gvenetaZis, biZina ivaniSvilis 

meoxebiTa da xelSewyobiT. did 

TamaSSi monawileobs uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomare. Tu nino 

gvenetaZe-murusiZisa amaze Tanaxma 

ar iyo, is Tanamdebobidan gadadgeboda. 

Cemi informaciiT, imdenad 

Sexmatkbildnen gvenetaZe da 

murusiZe, rom sxvadasxva Sexvedrebze 

erTad cekvaven da tortsac 

ukve erTad Wrian. axla vfiqrob, 

saqarTvelos prezidents ana doliZe 

rom waredgina uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomared, aseTi 

bakqanalia ar iqneboda sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi. is ar wavidoda kompromisze 

murusiZeebTan. 

nino gvenetaZes maSin Cven vaxasiaTebdiT, 

rogorc meryev da aramyar 

pirovnebas da es gamarTlda 

kidevac. prezidentma mainc gvenetaZe 

daasaxela, amitom mas gverdiT 

davudeqiT im mizniT, rom 

gvindoda, murusiZeebis tyve ar 

gamxdariyo, magram mosaxdeni mainc 

moxda. gvenetaZe-murusiZisa dRes 

arafers warmoadgens sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi. is aris iseTive marioneti, 

rogoric, Tavis droze, kublaSvili 

iyo, radgan mis magivrad 

gadawyvetilebas iRebdnen Cin- 

CalaZe, murusiZe, meiSvili da cercvaZe. 

CinCalaZesa da cercvaZes am 

weliwads vada gasdiT da apireben, 

es adamianebic xelmeored daniSnon 

mosamarTleebad. anu, sabolood, 

saakaSvilis reJimis samkuTxedi 

aRdgeba, is sasamarTlo manqana, 

romelic ukanono gadawyvetilebebs 

iRebda. 

_ e. i. samarTlian sasamarT- 

loze ocnebac ki daasamares? 

_ zustad asea. samarTliani 

sasamarTlo saqarTveloSi ar gveqneba, 

Tu iseTi xelisufleba ar 

movida, romelic am adamianebs pasuxs 

agebinebs. mtkicebulebebi 

maqvs imisa, rom uzenaes sasamarTlosa 

da saapelacio sasamarTloebSi 

erT dRes gamohqondaT gadawyvetilebebi 

erTsa da imive saqmeebze 

saakaSvilis reJimis dros da 

aseT mosamarTleebs „ocnebam” xelSeuxeblobis 

garantia misca. nebismieri 

iuristi, nebismier qveyana- 

Si getyviT, rom aseTi gadawyvetileba 

gayalbebulia. amis Camdeni 

mosamarTleebi sabraldebo skamze 

rom dasva, veravin xmas ver 

gagcems. Tu xelisufleba mova, 

romelsac samarTliani sasamarTlo 

endomeba, amas gaakeTebs kidevac. 

am xelisuflebas rom es ar 

unda, kargad gamoCnda. erTi kviris 

mosuli iyo ivaniSvili da misi xalxi, 

rom erT dReSi gamotanili 

gadawyvetilebis dokumentebi mivutane 

wulukians, romelic maSin 

mTavari prokurori gaxldaT. sanam 

Sevitandi, kancelariaSi gavatare, 

radgan isic vifiqre, rom 

SeiZleboda, gadaegdoT da eTqvaT, 

xatiaSvils CvenTvis aseTi dokumentebi 

ar moutaniao. piradad 

miveci xelSi mTavar prokurors 

da vuTxari, mosamarTleebi rom 

gadawyvetilebebs ar iRebdnen da 

ise „akulakebdnen” adamianebs, es 

aris imis mtkicebuleba-meTqi. ori 

wlis mere rom movTxove es gadawyvetileba, 

isev kabinetSi edo da 

Sesaswavlad ar hqonda gadacemuli. 

ivaniSvilis xelisufleba mosvlis 

dRidanve gaurigda murusiZeebis 

sasamarTlos. realuradac 

murusiZeebi ivaniSvilis fuliT 

gamoiCeken da is afinansebda 

„nacionalur moZraobas”. aqedan 

gamomdinare, ivaniSvilma is jgufi, 

romelSic mas fuli hqonda gadaxdili, 

ar daSala. 

_ e. i. nino gvenetaZem, levan 

murusiZem Tu sxva mosamarTleeb- 

ma, ra saxis danaSaulic ar unda 

Caidinon, xelSeuxebloba garan- 

tirebuli aqvT? 

_ am adamianebs xelfass uxdis 

qarTveli xalxi. samwuxarod, xalxmac 

murusiZeebs dauWira mxari. 

_ xalxma rogor dauWira mxari 

murusiZeebs? 

_ dekemberSi levan murusiZis 

kandidaturis ganxilva iyo iusticiis 

umaRles sabWoSi. aqcia Cavatare 

da xalxsac movuwode, gamosuliyvnen 

da gverdiT damdgomodnen. 

maSin vTqvi, rom iusticiis 

umaRles sabWoSi myofi „ocnebis” 

arCeulebi murusiZes miscemdnen 

xmas. erTma maTganmac rom ar 

misces xma, gadavrCebiT-meTqi. bi- 

Zinas mxardamWerebi gamocvivdnen 

da feisbuqze erTi ambavi atexes, 

_ zaza xatiaSvili amas igonebs, 

dakveTebs asrulebs, batoni biZina 

amas rogor ikadrebso?! roca 25 

dekembers murusiZe airCies, bi- 

Zinas goSiebi gaCumdnen, radgan 

gamoCnda, rom xatiaSvili marTali 

iyo da biZina _ matyuara. Tumca is 

adamianebi, romlebsac wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

miliarderi fuls uxdis 

da afinasebs, xom ar gamovidodnen 

da biZinas ar dauwyebdnen 

lanZRvas? maSin mec davwere feisbuqze: 

Tqve naZirlebo, biZinas 

goSiebo, axla gamodiT da mipasuxeT, 

biZinam es ikadra Tu ar ikadra? 

gagrZeleba me-11 gv. 

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neli vardiaSvili 

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rogor afaseben uzenaesi sasa- 

marTlos Tavmjdomaris postze nino gvenetaZis saqmianobas 

iuristTa wreebSi? risi Secvla SeeZlo mravali ukanonobis 

momswre sistemaSi devnilis statusiT mosulma adamianma da 

ar Secvala? am kiTxvebiT, amjerad, „qronika+” advokat mamuka 

nozaZes mimarTavs. 

mamuka nozaZe: 

_ uzenaes sasamarTloSi axlac 

iseTive uZraobaa, rogorc ‘nacionalebis” 

xelisuflebis dros 

iyo. axlac ar ixileba saqmeebi. 

sisxlis samarTlis saqmeebze ise- 

Tive trafaretuli ganCinebebi 

gamoaqvT, rogoric aqamde gamodioda. 

sisxlis samarTlis saqme- 

Ta palatas kvlav gamoaqvs erTgverdiani 

ganCinebebi, sadac weria, 

rom saqmis ganxilva ar aris 

mniSvnelovani samarTlisa da er- 

Tgvarovani sasamarTlo praqtikis 

ganviTarebisTvis da am mizeziT 

eubnebian uars mxares sakasacio 

saCivris ganxilvaze. yvela saqmeze 

identuri ganCineba gamodioda da 

gamodis, mxolod gvar-saxelebi 

icvleba, amaze ukve mudmivad vwerT. 

_ uzenaesi sasamarTlos misia 

realurad ras warmoadgens? 

_ es gaxlavT sakasacio instanciis, 

yvelaze maRali rangis 

sasamarTlo saqarTveloSi. cxadia, 

aq mosamarTleebi realurad 

unda ixilavdnen saqmeebs, pirvel 

da meore instanciebSi daSvebuli 

xarvezebi rom gamoswordes da 

mosamarTleebma dasabuTebuli 

ganCinebebi gamoitanon. es, ra Tqma 

unda, mniSvnelovani iqneba sasamarTlo 

praqtikisTvis, radgan 

analogiur saqmeebze veRar daadgenen 

ukanono ganaCenebs da is saxelmZRvanelo 

xasiaTis gaxdeba. 

aseve kargi iqneba im adamianebisTvis, 

romlebmac pirvel da meore 

donis sasamarTloebSi samarTlianobas 

ver miaRwies da imedis 

TvaliT Sehyureben uzenaes 

sasamarTlos. sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba 

an ganCineba ar aris, 

mxolod da mxolod, normaTa 

citirebis saSualeba. sasamarTlo 

gadawyvetilebebSi unda Candes 

mosamarTlis analizis unari, 

azrovneba da samarTalSemoqmedeba. 

samwuxarod, mxolod TiTze 

CamosaTvlel mosamarTleebs Seu- 

ZliaT azrovneba, rac maT sasamarTlos 

gadawyvetilebebSic 

naTlad Cans. uzanaesi sasamarTlos 

funqcia swored is aris, rom 

unda iyos maRali donis sasamarTlo 

da iq samarTlebrivad unda 

asabuTebdnen gadawyvetilebebs. 

ver davmalav da am uwyebaSi, jer 

kidev, saakaSvilis dros daniSnuli 

mosamarTleebi arian mokala- 

Tebulni. isini winaT xelisuflebis 

mimarT loialurobiT gamoirCeodnen 

da dResac igives agr- 

Zeleben ukve arsebuli xelisuflebis 

mimarT. metic, sami vakanturi 

adgilia uzenaes sasamarTloSi, 

meoTxe axla ganTavisufldeba 

da mosamarTleebi imis gamo 

ar iniSnebian, rom mmarTveli partia 

garkveuli kandidatebis maTadmi 

erTgulebaSi ver darwmunda. 

process Segnebulad swored amitom 

aWianureben, riTac zians ayeneben 

sazogadoebisa da marTlmsajulebis 

interesebs. 

_ e. i. uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

samarTals ver ipovi da kidev 

ufro dazaraldebi? 

_ diax. sasamarTlo xelmisawvdomobis 

ufleba, romelic garantirebulia 

qveynis konstituciiT, 

faqtobrivad, xelmiuwvdomelia. 

ra Tqma unda, yvelas aqvs ufleba 

da saSualeba, sasamarTlos mimarTos, 

magram sasamarTlo xelmisawvdomobaSi 

mxolod es ar moiazreba. 

sasamarTlo xelmisawvdomo- 




`nino gvenetaZe 

ver Seva 

istoriaSi, 

rogorc 

uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos 

samarTliani 

Tavmjdomare!~ 

ba aris is, rom saqme iyos obieqturad, 

kanonis Sesabamisad gansjili 

da adamiani ar gaxdes 

vinmes interesebis msxverpli. 

zogierTi, romelic warsulSi mZime 

danaSaulebebisTvis msjavrdadebuli 

iyo, dRes parlamentSi 

zis, aseve is mosamarTleebi, 

romlebmac maT mimarT ukanono, 

mkacri ganaCenebi gamoitanes, ar 

dasjilan da kvlav sasamarTlo 

xelisuflebaSi arian. xelisuflebaSi 

myof yofil politpatimrebs, 

ratomRac, kiTxva ar uCndebaT, 

mosamarTle, romelic maT 

mimarT usamarTlo iyo, dRes samarTliani 

rogor aris da Tu samarTliani 

araa, ratom aris kvlav 

mosamarTle? es kiTxva imitom ar 

uCndebaT, rom zogierTma daumsaxureblad 

miiRo saocrad Tbili 

savarZeli parlamentSi da 

dRes, ambionze mdgari, ukve sxvagvarad 

uyurebs am sakiTxs. 

_ vis gulisxmobT, vin iqceva 

ase? 

_ gvar-saxelebs ar davasaxeleb, 

Tumca yvela mixvdeba, vin 

iyo msjavrdadebuli saakaSvilis 

reJimis dros da dRes vin aris 

parlamentis wevri. sazogadoeba 

kargad icnobs am adamianebs. 

„ocnebis” xelisuflebam dapireba 

gasca, rom uzenaes sasamarTlosa 

da saerTo sasamarTloebis 

Sesaxeb kanonSi cvlileba unda 

Sesuliyo, romlis Tanaxmadac, 

sasamarTlo wevrTa raodenoba 

gaizrdeboda. amave dros, mosamarTleTa 

raodenoba unda gansazRvruliyo 

pirdapir kanoniT. 

mesame talRis egidiT es gaJRerda 

da Tavdapirvel proeqtSi is 

iyo kidevac. amis Semdeg nino gvenetaZisa 

da Tea wulukianis qmedebebSi, 

romelic ukve mxilebuli 

aris tyuilebsa da faqtebis utrirebaSi, 

gamoikveTa is, rom am xelisuflebas 

ar awyobs sasamarTlo 

wevrTa raodenobis gansazRvra 

da im regulaciis datoveba 

surs, rac saakaSvilis reJimis 

dros iyo. uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

plenums SeuZlia miiRos gadawyvetileba 

da Tu moundeba, Seamciros 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos wevrTa 

raodenoba, an gazardos. 

prezidentma veto daado saerTo 

sasamarTloebis Sesaxeb kanons da 

misi, aseve veneciis komisiis moTxovna 

aris is, rom ar unda mieces 

amis ufleba. vin aris uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos plenumi, rom man miiRos 

qveynis marTlmsajulebis 

umniSvnelovanes rgolSi gadawyvetileba, 

mosamarTleebi Seamciron, 

an gazardon politikuri 

niSniT? amis ufleba plenums ar 

unda hqondes. 

_ vin arian plenumis wevrebi? 

_ plenumSi Sedian uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos wevrebi: nino gvenetaZe, 

CinCalaZe da a. S. uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos yvela wevri plenumis 

wevradac iTvleba da misi 

Tavmjdomare aseve aris uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare _ gvenetaZe. 

vfiqrob, parlamenti gaiziarebs 

prezidentis vetos, radgan 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebis, 

uflebadamcvelebis, advokatebis 

moTxovnaa, rom parlamentma gansazRvros 

wevrTa raodenoba. sazogadoebamac 

unda icodes, saqarTvelos 

uzenaesi sasamarTlo 

ramdeni wevriT ganisazRvreba. 

aseve, parlamentma unda Sewyvitos 

is boikotireba da wevrTa ardaniSvna, 

romelsac Tveebis ganmavlobaSi 

agrZelebs. is mizanmimarTulad 

ar niSnavs prezidentis 

mier uzenaes sasamarTloSi wardgenili 

mosamarTleebis kandidatebs. 

SeiZleba, romelime kandidatis 

mimarT marTlac arsebobs 

legitimuri kiTxvebi, magram iq 

aseve arian kandidatebi, romel- 

Ta miukerZoeblobasTan dakav- 

SirebiT kiTxva ar arsebobs. Tu 

sxvagvarad aris raime, parlamentma 

prezidentTan unda iTanam- 

Sromlos da daasabuTos, ratom 

ar xdeba am adamianebis gamweseba 

uzenaes sasamarTloSi da es argumentebi 

sazogadoebisTvisac xelmisawvdomi 

unda gaxdes. an unda 

SearCion sxva kandidatebi, radgan 

amiT sazogadoeba zaraldeba. 

bunebrivia, wardgenil kandidats 

roca Caugdeben, prezidentmac 

ufro efeqtiani RonisZiebebi unda 

gaataros da a. S. 

_ amiT rogor zaraldeba sazogadoeba 

da ratom awyobs ase- 

Ti ram uzenaesi sasamrTlos xelmZRvanelobas, 

esec gangvima- 

rteT? 

_ sazogadoebas aRar aqvs molodini, 

rom maT saqmes obieqturi 

mosamarTle gansjis. jer 

erTi, am sasamarTloSi mosamarTleTa 

raodenoba mcirea, mere 

sasamarTlo dakompleqtebulia 

iseTi pirebiT, romlebic loialurad 

iyvnen ganwyobili wina xelisuflebis 

mimarT da adamiani, 

romelic mTeli cxovrebis man- 

Zilze gamoirCeoda araobieqturobiT, 

is obieqtur mosamarTled 

verasdros iqceva. amitom axali 

Zalis misvla uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

ar awyobs mmarTvel Zalasac. 

mas eSinia, rom es adamianebi 

obieqtur gadawyvetilebebs miiReben 

da amiT maT garkveul diskomforts 

Seuqmnian. amiT, SeiZleba, 

prokuraturis mier politikuri 

niSniT dapatimrebis faqti 

gamovlindes, am mosamarTlis 

mikerZoeba, ukanono saqcieli da 

a. S. aqedan gamomdinare, is pirebi, 

romelTac ganacxdi aqvT Setanili 

da fiqroben, rom maT saqmeebs 

samarTlianad gansjian, sawinaaRmdego 

xdeba. maTi saqmeebi 

kvlav xvdeba pavliaSvilis, gvenetaZis, 

paata silagaZis xelSi, romelTac 

iseTive trafaretuli 

gadawyvetilebebi gamoaqvT, rogoric 

winaT gamohqondaT am sasamarTloSi. 

gazeT „qronika+”-Si araerTxel 

gavaSuqeT aseTi faqtebic da axla 

yvela maTganze ar SevCerdebi. gamovyof 

erT saqmes, sadac sisxlis 

samarTlis palatis Tavmjdomarem, 

mosamarTle nino gvenetaZem, 

Salva doliZis saqmeze iseT gan- 

Cinebas moawera xeli, romelic 

alogikurobisa da absurdulobis 

naTeli nimuSia. prokurorma, 

romelic monawileobda Salva 

doliZis mimarT SeTiTxnil sisxlis 

samarTlis saqmeSi, Semdgom, 

rogorc quTaisis saapelacio 

sasamarTlos sisxlis samarTlis 

saqmeTa palatis mosamarTlem, 

doliZis Suamdgomloba ganixila 

axlad gamovlenil garemoebaTa 

gamo im sisxlis samarTlis saqmeze, 

romelSic warsulSi prokurorad 

monawileobda. sisxlis samarTlis 

saproceso kodeqsSi naTlad 

weria: piri, romelic warsulSi 

monawileobda saqmeSi prokurorad, 

mosamarTled, sxdomis 

mdivnad, gamomZieblad, ver miiRebs 

igive saqmeSi monawileobas 

sxva instanciis sasamarTloSi. magram 

gvenetaZem ganacxada, TiTqos 

aseTi ram calsaxad ar aris 

aRniSnuli, rac aseve tyuilia. SegiZliaT, 

kodeqsSi es muxli 

Tqvenc naxoT. aseT ganCinebas 

moawera man xeli, rac samarcxvinoa. 

am konkretul faqtTan dakav- 

SirebiT is ase imitom moiqca, rom, 

Cemi azriT, ar kiTxulobs gan- 

Cinebebs, viTom didi moucleli 

da samarTlianobis qurumia da 

dro ar aqvs. 

gagrZeleba me-11 gv. 

9

mediasTan mimarTebiT kanonmdeblobas 

Tu CavxedavT, im 

SemTxvevaSi, Tu SeTanxmebul 

interviuze werilobiT ar iReb 

uars, misi gaSvebis ufleba 

gaqvs. miT umetes, rom teqsti, 

gasainterviueblad, Tavad 

pressamsaxuris ufrosma, xaTuna 

Carkvianma gadmomigzavna. 

"qronika+"-Si xsenebuli intervius 

gamoqveynebis Semdeg 

movlenebi Semdegnairad ganvi- 

Tarda, me vityodi _ amazrzenad. 

diliT, sxva zarebTan erTad, 

xaTuna Carkvianisa da "qronika+"-is 

mTavari redaqtoris, 

eliso kilaZis gamotovebuli 

zarebi damxvda. pirveli eliso 

kilaZes davureke, romelmac 

damamSvida, _ Tamuna, ar inerviulo, 

magram Senma daqalma dareka 

da miTxra, rom Sen, Turme, 

nino gvenetaZisgan aranairi 

interviu ar agiRiao. me ki vu- 

sxva dros Cemi qmedebebi bevrad radikaluri iqneboda, ma- 

gram es is variantia, rodesac yvelafrisgan gverdze vdgebi. 

am furclebidan arasodes gadamixdia madloba eliso 

kilaZisTvis da axla vuxdi mxolod imitom, rom monawile ar 

viqnebi im sibinZurisa, razedac qvemoT minda davwero. 

2017 wlis 14 ianvars mosamarTleTa 

konferenciaze dampatiJes. 

damireka uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomaris nino 

gvenetaZis mTavarma konsultantma 

mediis sakiTxebSi, xaTuna 

Carkvianma. sxdoma or saaTze 

met xans gagrZelda. aqve minda 

aRvniSno, rom, zogadad, aseTi 

sxdomebi da konferenciebi mosawyenia 

da, maincdamainc, ar 

mainteresebs. Cemda gasakvirad, 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris, 

nino gvenetaZis gamosvla 

imdenad saintereso aRmo- 

Cnda, rom darbazSi msxdomTagan, 

me mgoni, bolomde marto 

me vusmendi. saubari iyo sasamarTloSi 

mimdinare reformebze, 

samomavlo gegmebze, axal 

poziciebsa da a. S. arada, konferenciaze 

mxolod xaTuna Carkvianis 

xaTriT mivedi, romelTanac 

wlebis megobroba makav- 

Sirebs da romelic am Tanamdebobaze 

axlad daniSnuli iyo. 

konferenciis dasrulebis 

Semdeg CarkvianisTvis ar damimalavs 

da vuTxari, _ Zalian saintereso 

angariSi iyo da nino 

gvenetaZesTan interviu xom ar 

gamekeTebina-meTqi? _ Zalian 

kargi iqnebao, _ miviRe pasuxi. 

_ maSin, am gamosvlas gavainterviueb, 

mxolod damatebiT kiTxvebs 

gadmogigzavni, ufro rom 

gamovacocxloT da Sen es yvelaferi 

ninos SeuTanxme-meTqi. 

xaTuna Carkviani sixaruliT damTanxmda, 

xazs vusvam, _ sixaruliT 

damTanxmda. vTxove, rom 

nino gvenetaZisTvis teqsti gamoerTmia. 

Carkviani masTan mivida 

(ai, aq qalbaton ninos vTxov, 

gaixsenos es detali, imitom, 

rom mis win videqi), amobe- 

Wdili teqsti gamoarTva, romelic 

xelSi eWira da momitana. 

vuTxari, rom CemTvis teqstis 

eleqtronuli versia gadmoegzavna, 

amxela teqstis akrefaSi 

dro rom ar damekarga. 

konferenciis Semdeg xaTuna 

Carkvianma Tavis samsaxurebrivi 

manqaniT uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

SenobaSi wamomiyvana, kabinetSi 

amiyvana da moxsenebis eleqtroversia 

gadmomigzavna. SevTanxmdiT, 

rom me teqstSi kiTxvebs 

Cavsvamdi, damatebiT kiTxvebs 

ki calke gadmovugzavnidi 

da masze uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomares pasuxs gaaceminebda. 

ase da amgvarad, nino gvenetaZis 

teqsti xaTuna Carkvianma 

gadmomigzavna SabaTs, 14 ianvars, 

konferenciis Semdeg, 

16.21 sT-ze. amis Semdeg Cven 

gvianobamde erTad viyaviT, kafeSi 

visxediT, samomavlo gegmebze 

vmsjelobdiT da a. S. or- 

SabaTamde kidev ramdenjerme 

SevexmianeT erTmaneTs da vinaidan 

SabaT-kvira dasveneba uwevda, 

amitom gadawyda, rom masala 

momaval kviras gavidoda. 

20 ianvars xaTuna Carkvianis 

pirad meilze kiTxvebi gadavugzavne. 

ai, es kiTxvebic: 

10 


pasuxi uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos 

pressamsaxuris 

ufross, xaTuna 

Carkvians 

1. `rusTavi 2"-Tan dakavSirebul 

movlenebs (samarTlebrivi 

devnis TvalsazrisiT) ra Sefasebas 

miscemdiT? 

2. zaqaria qucnaSvili dRemde 

apelirebs imiT, rom pasuxi 

ar gaeciT mis kiTxvebs. nu davutebT 

mas am saTqmels da er- 

Txel da sabolood gavceT pasuxi: 

a. ramdeni gamamarTlebeli 

ganaCeni gaqvT gamotanili 

Tqveni mravalwliani samosamarTleo 

saqmianobisas? 

b. zaza meiSvilTan erTad iRebdiT 

Tu ara monawileobas mosamarTleTa 

disciplinur devnaSi? 

g. qrTamis aRebis faqtze dakavebuli 

policieli Tqven gaa- 

TavisufleT patimrobidan da 

es gadawyvetileba "gaamarTleT" 

ukiduresi aucileblobiT? 

gTxovT, gangvimartoT, qrTamis 

aRebis gamarTlebiT ra ufro 

mniSvnelovani sikeTe gadarCa? 

d. boris mWedliZis saqmeze 

ZalaSi datoveT qveda instanciis 

sasamarTlos gamamtyunebeli 

ganaCeni mxolod misi moadgilis 

Cvenebis safuZvelze, 

ris Sedegadac mas ramdenimewliani 

patimroba miesaja da ojaxi 

daengra. iyo Tu ara raime 

sxva mtkicebuleba, rac b. mWedliZis 

danaSauls adasturebda? 

e. valeri gelaSvilisTvis 

samewarmeo saqmianobis SezRudvisa 

da qonebis CamorTmevisTvis 

SevardnaZis xelisuflebis 

dros xom ar hqonda adgili 

maSindeli saxelmwifo-politikuri 

Tanamdebobis pirebis 

mxridan Tqvenze zewolas, rac 

misi ojaxis 2 wevris dapatimreba-gatacebiT 

da Tqven mier 

miRebuli gadawyvetilebis gamo 

1.5 milionis Rirebulebis qonebis 

CamorTmeviT damTavrda?" 

bunebrivia, telefoniTac 

Sevexmiane, rom kiTxvebi gadmogzavnilia, 

razec pasuxi miviRe, 

rom nino venetaZes Seutanda 

da gadmomigzavnida. mas Semdeg, 

rac am kiTxvebze aranairi 

pasuxi ar mimiRia, CavTvale, 

rom nino gvenetaZem isini zedmetad 

kritikulad miiCnia da 

pasuxi ar gasca, amitom, rogorc 

xaTuna CarkvianTan Tavidanve 

SevTanxmdiT da miviRe misgan 

Tanxmoba, mis mier gadmogzavnil 

teqstSi konteqstidan 

gamomdinare kiTxvebi Cavsvi 

(xazs vusvam, mxolod konteqstidan 

da teqstidan gamomdinare 

kiTxvebi). ise rom, teqstis 

Sinaarsi ar Semicvlia da 

xaTuna Carkvians pirad meilze 

23 ianvars, dilis 8.28 wT-ze 

gadavugzavne. mogvianebiT davureke. 

Carkviani ar pasuxobda. 

misgan miviRe mesiji, rom seminarze 

iyo. 

axla, bunebrivia, ismis kiTxva, 

_ ratom gadavwyvite, rom 

teqstSi Camesva kiTxvebi da ratom 

ar Cavwere nino gvenetaZesTan 

cocxali interviu? _ im 

martivi mizezis gamo, rom nino 

gvenetaZis intervius ver veRirsebodi. 

amis magaliTi aris 

volski. ramdenjerac ar sTxova 

"qronika+"-ma Cemi saxiT volskisTan 

interviu, imdenjer 

Tanxmobas viRebdiT Carkvianisgan, 

magram ara volskis intervius. 

Cemi kolegebi "qronika+"- 

dan mxolod im SemTxvevaSi 

werdnen volskis, Tu pirdapir 

daukavSirdebodnen, is ki telefons 

upasuxebda. am xnis ganmavlobaSi 

ambrazurasaviT viyavi 

xaTunaze gadafarebuli, es ambavi 

eliso kilaZesTan rom ar 

misuliyo. arasodes davwerdi 

amas, magram bolos "ocnebis" 

centraluri saarCevno Stabidan, 

arCevnebis dRes davureke 

da vTxove, _ xaTuna, volski Camawerine 

telefoniT, Zalian 

gTxov, dagelodebi-meTqi. _ 

sul tyuilad. 

miuxedavad aseTi damokidebulebisa, 

megobrobaze win es 

faqtori arasodes damiyenebia. 

Txari, _ xaTuna, Sens megobarze 

rogor mirekav da magas rogor 

meubnebi, roca misi saxeliT 

modiodi da volskisa da daviT 

bagrationis piars mTxovdio. 

Carkvianma eliso kilaZes gancxadebis 

gamoqveyneba mosTxova, 

razec pasuxi miiRo, _ moitane 

da ganvixilavTo. meoredac 

daureka Carkvianma "qronika+"- 

is mTavar redaqtors, amjerad 

imis saTqmelad, rom "qronika+"-isa 

da, konkretulad, Cemi 

_ Tamar rostiaSvilis sawinaaRmdego 

gancxadeba maT "interpresniuss"fasiani 

sareklamo 

gverdis saxiT SeukveTes. 

ai, es gancxadebac: 

"saqarTvelos uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

pressamsaxuri gancxadebas 

avrcelebs: 

24 ianvars gazeTma "qronika+"-ma 

gamoaqveyna Jurnalist 

Tamar rostiaSvilis e. w. eqskluziuri 

interviu nino gvenetaZesTan. 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

pressamsaxuri acxadebs, 

rom gazeT "qronika+"-is Jurnalist 

Tamar rostiaSvilis 

Sexvedris faqts uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

TavmjdomaresTan intervius 

aRebis mizniT adgili 

ar hqonia. Sesabamisad, 2017 

wlis 24 ianvars gazeT "qronika+"-Si 

gamoqveynebuli statia 

"eqskluziuri interviu nino 

gvenetaZesTan", Seicavs informacias, 

romelic aRebulia a. w. 

14 ianvars saqarTvelos mosamarTleTa 

konferenciaze, uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris 

yovelwliuri saangariSo 

moxsenebidan. amasTan, statiaSi 

Jurnalistis mier viTomda dasmul 

kiTxvebze pasuxebad gamoyenebulia 

konteqstidan amoRebuli, 

sxvadasxva dros gavrcelebuli 

informacia da, savaraudod, 

warmoadgens Jurnalistis 

TviTSemoqmedebas da 

mis naazrevs. saqarTvelos uzenaesi 

sasamarTlo imeds itovebs, 

rom aRniSnulze gazeTis 

redaqcia adekvatur reagirebas 

moaxdens", _ naTqvamia uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos gancxadebaSi". 

es is variantia, sakuTari 

skamis gadasarCenad yvelafers 

rom megobars "Seteni" (bodiSi 

slengisTvis). an, ras niSnavs, 

Jurnalistma amokrifa "sxvadasxva 

dros gavrcelebuli informacia 

da, savaraudod, warmoadgens 

Jurnalistis TviT- 

Semoqmedebas da mis naazrevs"? 

axla ki xaTuna Carkvians minda, 

mivmarTo: sami dRe damWirda, 

rom gonze movsuliyavi. sami 

dRe vismine teqsti, rom rac 

Carkvianma Caidina, sapatiebeli 

ar aris. me Jurnalisti var, sagamoZiebo 

kuTxiT, sakmaod Zlieri 

skola maqvs gavlili da 

vmuSaob aseTive Zlier gamocemaSi. 

ubralod, minda icode, 

rom Cemgan qvebs nu daelodebi! 

me im doneze ar davecemi, ra 

donezec Sen daeci. sul rom 

saSineleba damewera nino gvenetaZeze, 

Tanamdeboba megobrobaze 

win ar unda dageyenebina. 

me ar davayenebdi. 

10 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w. 

Tamar rostiaSvili

merve gverdidan 

- jer sad xarT, ivaniSvili, kidev bevr, 

rames ikadrebs-meTqi. xma veRaravin amoiRo. 

Tavad „qarTul ocnebaSic” iyvnen murusiZis 

arCeviT ukmayofilo adamianebi. parlamentarebic 

ki ambobdnen, araswori gadawyvetileba 

miiReso. amas mohyva is, rom maSinve 

gamovarda biZina da ayvirda, _ levan 

murusiZes Tavi daanebeT, is msxverpliao! 

yvela uklebliv gaCumda da daikarga. maT 

Soris daikargnen is adamianebic, romlebic 

advokatTa asociaciaSi Semxvdnen. vgulisxmob 

e. w. opoziciur Zalebs, romlebic 

CemTan erTad aprotestebdnen levan murusiZis 

arCevas da ambobdnen, rom is iyo qveynis 

mteri. me maSin Sevxvdi nino burjanaZes, 

irakli alasanias, irma inaSvils, giorgi 

gugavas. maT vuTxari, _ biZina aravis SegiyvanT 

parlamentSi, sanam es Tavad ar moundeba-meTqi. 

levan murusiZis daniSvna saapelacio 

palataSi swored amiT aixsneboda, 

radgan es palata aris arCevnebis sakiTxebis 

gasaCivrebis bolo instancia. arCevnebi 

Tu gayalbdeba, is amiT saSualebas mogispobT, 

erTi saarCevno ubanic rom gada- 

TvaloT-meTqi. Cemi naTqvami bevrs auxda. 

„leiboristebi” da burjanaZe biZinasTan 

garigebulebi ar iyvnen da aprotestebdnen 

kidevac, rom arCevnebi gauyalbes, magram 

romelime ubani gadauTvales? rac vTqvi 

dekemberSi, is asrulda momdevno wlis oqtomberSi. 

aseTi marTvadi sasamarTlo 

sWirdeboda ivaniSvils da mas iyenebs kidevac 

Tavis sasargeblod. yvela diqtatori, 

romelic ase iqceva, bolos mainc cudad 

amTavrebs karieras da cxovrebas. magali- 

Tad, saakaSvili saqarTveloSi ver Camodis. 

_ Tumca kublaSvili da murusiZe mS- 

venivrad cxovroben Tavis qveyanaSi da 

aravin maT pasuxs araferze sTxovs. met- 

ic, ager, murusiZe igive samuSaos asrulebs... 

nino gvenetaZec, albaT, ase iqne- 

ba. vcdebi? 

_ amitom saWiroa iseTi xelisufleba, 

rogoric germaniaSi movida faSisturi reJimis 

damarcxebis Semdeg. iseTi xelisufle- 


ba unda avirCioT, romelic amaze wava. germaniaSi 

niurnbergis procesi rom ar Catarebuliyo, 

dRes germania msoflioSi pirveli 

qveyana ar iqneboda da CamorCenili qveynebis 

ricxvSi CaiTvleboda. italiaSi musolinis 

reJimis mosamarTleebs eklesiaSi ar uSvebdnen. 

gasuli saukunis 80-ian wlebSi iq 

qarTuli delegacia Cavida da ikiTxa, _ es 

xalxi ratom dgas gverdiTo? upasuxes, _ 

es is prokurorebi da mosamarTleebi arian, 

romelTac ufleba ar aqvT, samoqalaqo 

sazogadoebis gverdiT idgneno. CvenTan gociriZe, 

sofromaZe da Tordia sufrasTan 

rom dasxdebian, qarTvelebi maT sadRegr- 

Zelos yanwiT daleven da did mamuliSvilebs 

dauZaxeben. ai, es aris Cveni ubedureba. 

sanam samoqalaqo sazogadoebis 

azrovneba iqamde ar miva, rom sazogadoebis 

mtrebi miuReblebi gaxdnen yvelasTvis, 

manamde araferi gveSveleba. 

martom vibrZole imisTvis, rom eva gociriZe 

evropis adamianis uflebaTa dacvis 

sasamarTlos mosamarTle ar gamxdariyo. 

marto vebrZodi xelisuflebas da 7 miliardis 

patron ivaniSvils. yvelaferi gavakeTe 

imis dasamtkiceblad, rom Tu movindomeT, 

TiToeul Cvengans SeuZlia daamarcxos 

uZlevelis mantiiT Semosili ivaniSvili. 

zogierTma ki arCevnebze erT tomara 

fqvilze gayida xma. sanam xalxi azrze ar 

mova da ar ityvis, me minda xelisufleba, 

romelic murusiZeebsa da im prokurorebs 

momacilebs, romlebTan vizitis Semdgomac 

adamianebi keTil sizmrebs naxulobdnen da 

sakuTar qonebebs saxelmwifos uformebdneno, 

araferi gveSveleba. 

arCevnebze or partias hqonda fuli: „nacionalur 

moZraobasa” da „qarTul ocnebas”. 

erTma murusiZe Seqmna da meorem 

murusiZeebs xelSeuxeblobis garantia misca. 

es gaxlavT erTi da igive boroti Zala, 

magram xalxma mainc maT misca kartblanSi. 

arCevnebzec komisiebi gadaibires, an daaSines 

da isinic, rac amaT undodaT, imas werdnen, 

Semdeg ki saCivrebze es xmebi aRar gadaiTvales 

murusiZis daxmarebiT. ase dar- 

zaza xatiaSvili: `nino 

gvenetaZe gadaiqca kabaSi 

gamowyobil murusiZed!~ 

levan murusiZe 

Ca saqarTvelo damarcxebuli, biZina da 

murusiZe ki _ gamarjvebulebi. xolo me 

bolomde vibrZole eva gociriZis winaaRmdeg 

da gavitane kidec. evroparlamentis 

komitetebSi wesieri adamianebi muSaoben. 

imaT ar ainteresebT, mocemul kandidats 7 

miliardi qonebis mflobeli adamiani uWers 

mxars, Tu ar uWers. gadawyvetilebebi 

mainc gamoaqvT kanonebidan, Sinagani mrwamsidan 

da patiosnebidan gamomdinare. ivaniSvils, 

kvirikaSvilsa da wulukians es xalxi 

qarTvel parlamentarebSi aeriaT. 

_ ratom aris saqarTveloSi akrZalu- 

li mosamarTlis dasja im dros, Tu is danaSauls 

Caidens? ratom arian am Tanamde- 

bobaze myofi adamianebi xelSeuxeblebi? 

_ ar aris akrZaluli maTi dasja. es 

sistema ivaniSvilis Seqmnilia, radgan is afinansebda 

mas. aqedan gamomdinare, es sistema 

misTvis misaRebia. is rogorc emsaxureboda 

saakaSvils, masac iseve unda moemsaxuros da 

Tu odesme qveyanas normaluri xelisufleba 

eRirseba, magaT daWeras ra unda? dilidan 

saRamomde erTmaneTs ise CauSveben da 

ityvian, vin romel gadawyvetilebaze ra 

uTxra, Tavadac gaukvirdebaT. ise, CaSvebac 

ar dasWirdebaT, faqtebi, sadac sisxlis samarTlis 

danaSaulebi aSkarad ikveTeba, arsebobs 

da bevri maTgani xelT gvaqvs kidevac. 

ase rom, Zalian iolad SeiZleba ara marto 

rigiTi mosamarTleebis, aramed Tea wulukianis 

pasuxisgebaSi micemac, radgan Cemi 

gadacemuli dokumentebi, sadac aSkarad 

ikveTeboda sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli, 

damala. es aris gadabmuli jaWvi, romlis 

erT-erTi rgolic, ra Tqma unda, aris nino 

gvenetaZe-murusiZisa. valdebuleba mas aqvs 

aRebuli sasamarTlos swraf da samarTlian 

ganviTarebaze. sasamarTloSi yvelaferi 

Zalian cudad mimdinareobs, aqedan gamomdinare, 

misi danaSaulic didia. Tu am adamians 

ar undoda usamarTlobebze xelis mowera, 

jaWvs ar Caebmeboda erT-erT rgolad, 

an datovebda Tanamdebobas. mas es ar gaukeTebia, 

amitom yvelaferze, rac sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi xdeba, swored mas ekisreba pasuxismgebloba. 

mecxre gverdidan 

- amis gamo is momxsenebel mosamarTles 

endo, romelmac gan- 

Cineba Seutana. andac, man samarTlianobaze 

daxuWa Tvali da uari 

Tqva obieqtur mosamarTleobaze. 

orive varianti danaSaulebrivi 

qmedebaa uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

Tavmjdomaris mxridan. 

nino gvenetaZes Tavi moaqvs 

brZenad, sazogadoebas warmoudga, 

rogorc devnili mosamarTle 

da msxverpli, magram Tu es yvelaferi 

simarTle iyo, maSin dRes 

rogor aris mdevnelebTan kohabitirebuli 

da rogor atarebs 

maTTan Jivil-xivilSi dReebs? 

Cven vnaxeT fotoebi mosamarTleebis 

saaxalwlo farTebis, karnavalebisa 

da taSi-tuSis. im pirebs, 

romlebic, TiTqos, gvenetaZes 

sdevnidnen, dRes tortis naWrebiT 

umaspinZldeba da rodis 

tyuis, an rodis aris marTali 

gvenetaZe, rogor unda gavigoT? 

mosamarTleoba ar aris mudmivi. 

mantiiT aravin ibadeba da 

arc kvdeba. aseT saqmeebs mas xSirad 

gauxseneben da ver Seva istoriaSi, 

rogorc uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

samarTliani, obieqturi xelmZRvaneli. 

_ Tqven ambobT, rom nino gven- 

etaZes uzenaes sasamarTlosa da 

saerTo sasamarTloebSi bevri 

ramis Secvla SeeZlo, magram es 

ar gaakeTa? 

_ gvenetaZes sazogadoebis 

mxridan didi legitimacia hqonda 

da mas bevri ramis gakeTeba See- 

Zlo am sferoSi. Tumca yvelam 

dainaxa, rom am adamianma reformatoruli, 

swori nabijebi ar 

gadadga da TiTqmis araferi Secvala 

sistemaSi, amitom sazogadoebas 

misi mxridan molodinebi aRar 

aqvs. „qronika+”-is furclebze 


`nino gvenetaZe ver 

Seva istoriaSi, 

rogorc uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos 

samarTliani 

Tavmjdomare!~ 


gvewera, Tu rogor daakompleqta 

man uzenaesi sasamarTlo daqalebiT. 

samwuxarod, es procesi amiT 

ar amowurula da am uwyebis dakompleqteba 

gvenetaZisa Tu sxva- 

Ta nacnob-megobrebiT, daqal- 

ZmakacebiT kvlav grZeldeba. mokle 

xanSi Cven SemogTavazebT im 

adamianebis sias, romlebic swored 

aseTi formiT arian wamomsxdarni 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos sxvadasxva 

samsaxurSi da sakmaod 

maRal xelfasebsac iReben. Sei- 

Zleba iTqvas, rom gvenetaZem sakmaod 

sapasuxismgeblo uwyeba aqcia 

axlobelTa da megobarTa 

TavSesafrad. aqedan gamomdinare, 

iseTi gadawyvetilebebi, rogorsac 

iq iReben, ar aris gasakviri. 

roca esa Tu is piri bedavs, erTpirovnulad, 

konkursebisa da 

privilegiebis gareSe axloblebisa 

da megobrebis dawinaurebas, iq 

obieqturobaze saubaric ki zedmetia. 

amis Sesaxeb aucileblad 

unda amoeRoT xma im arasamTavroboebs, 

romlebic periodulad 

saubroben xolme sasamarTloebis 

mxridan garkveul ukanonobebze, 

magram isini ase ar moiqcnen da ar 

Seiswavles sakiTxi, ra principiT 

niSnavs gvenetaZe uzenaes sasamarTloSi, 

Ria konkursis gareSe, 

Tanamdebobebze garkveul pirebs? 

maTi laparakic mxolod piaria. 

cxadia, gvenetaZes uzenaes sasamarTloSi 

bevri ramis Secvla 

SeeZlo. magaliTad, bolomde mieyvana 

sasamarTlo reformis mesame 

talRa xelisuflebasTan komunikaciis 

Sedegad. gansazRvruliyo 

mosamarTleTa odenoba, rac 

wingadadgmuli nabiji iqneboda; 

daewesebina Tundac zepiri mosmeniT 

saqmeebis ganxilva, sadac ar 

moxdeboda gadawera pirveli da 

meore instanciis saqmeebisa da mxareTa 

sakasacio saCivrebis mixedviT, 

gacemuli iqneboda dasabuTebuli, 

argumentirebuli pasuxi, 

ratom dakmayofilda saCivari, an 

ar dakmayofilda, magram gvenetaZem 

xelisuflebasTan da yofili 

xelisuflebis kvlav maRal 

Tanamdebobebze wamoWimul pirebTan 

Caxuteba arCia. 

gvenetaZes da arsebul xelisuflebas 

urCevnia, rom Zveli kasta 

hyavdeT uzenaes sasamarTlo- 

Si. iq arian „nacionalebis” periodis 

mosamarTleebi, romlebic, 

amjerad, „ocnebis” xelisuflebasTan 

Zalian kargad brZandebian. 

magaliTad, miSa CinCalaZe, 

romelic arc erT saqmes ar ixilavs, 

is iyo adeiSvilis marjvena 

xeli da ase moxvda am Tanamdebobaze, 

SeinarCuna arsebuli 

mdgomareoba da pasuxic araferze 

mosTxoves. saerTodac, arc 

erT mosamarTles ar moeTxova 

pasuxi Cadenil qmedebebze. amitom 

dRes, saerTo sasamarTloebis 

kanonSi, romelic parlamentma 

miiRo, gaCnda debuleba, romlis 

Tanaxmadac, uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

yofil wevrs ufleba aqvs, 

yovelgvari gamosacdeli vadis 

gareSe, uvadod dainiSnos pirvel 

da meore instanciis sasamarTlo- 

Si. Sesabamisad, CinCalaZes da msgavs 

damnaSave mosamarTleebs 

sikvdilamde gza xsnili aqvT am 

uwyebebSi da miuxedavad imisa, rac 

maT gaakeTes, ufleba miecaT, 

iyvnen dausjelebi, bednierebi da 

laRebi. 

nino gvenetaZem, arqividan 

amoRebuli, SevardnaZis droindeli 

mosamarTleebi daabruna xelisuflebaSi. 

marTalia, mas erTi 

xma aqvs iusticiis umaRles sab- 

WoSi, magram Tavisi poziciis ga- 

JRerebis SemTxvevaSi SeeZlo, 

gverdiT daeyenebina, Tundac, ise- 

Ti uwyeba, rogoric aris advokatTa 

asociacia, axalgazrda iuristTa 

asociacia, samoqalaqo sazogadoeba, 

iuristTa farTo wre 

da sakuTari azri brZoliT gaetana, 

ar daeSva, Tundac, levan murusiZis 

gaxdoma kvlav mosamar- 

Tled, magram am gzas man murisiZesTan 

Caxutebisa da Sexmatkbilebis 

gza arCia, rac fotozec kargad 

Cans. 

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Tamar rostiaSvili 

577 10 07 06 

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisufle- 

baSi mosvlisTanave erT-erT yvelaze warmatebul reformad 

(yvelaze Tu ara) jandacvis sayovelTao dazRvevis programa 

miiCnies, romelic 2013 wels premier-ministr irakli RaribaSvilis 

sazeimo gancxadebad iqca: „jandacva yvelasTvis xelm- 

isawvdomi gaxda!” 

2013 wlis 28 Tebervals sayovelTao 

jandacvis programa 

amoqmedda. igi saqarTvelos absoluturad 

yvela moqalaqeze vrceldeboda 

_ imaTze, visac hqonda 

SesaZlebloba da maTze, visac 

ar hqonda. programis Tanaxmad, 

jandacvis sayovelTao programis 

farglebSi adamiani gegmuri stacionaruli 

da ambulatoriuli 

momsaxurebis misaRebad misTvis 

sasurvel sayovelTao jandacvis 

programaSi CarTul samedicino 

dawesebulebaSi gadioda registracias. 

dRes jandacvis mesveurebi da 

konkretuli maRalCinosnebi etapebze 

laparakoben. arada, bevrma 

ar icis, ra igulisxmeba amaSi da, 

saerTod, gaiara ki saqarTvelos 

mosaxleobam es etapebi? 

sayovelTao jandacvis programis 

pirveli etapi 453 sxvadasxva 

tipis nozologiis, ojaxis 

eqimis momsaxurebisa da bazisuri 

laboratoriuli analizebis dafinansebas 

iTvaliswinebda. daavadebaTa 

CamonaTvali detalurad 

aris gawerili mTavrobis #36 

dadgenilebaSi. igulisxmeba sayovelTao 

dazRvevis programis 

farglebSi ambulatoriuli da 

stacionaruli momsaxurebis CamonaTvali. 

aq yuradsaRebi is gaxldaT, 

rom paketi, rig SemTxveveb- 

Si, beneficiaris mier Tanagadaxdas 

gulisxmobda. magaliTad, ki 

batono, 36-e dadgenileba pacients 

konkretul informacias awvdida 

imasTan dakavSirebiT, Tu ra 

saxis samedicino momsaxurebas 

faravda misi dazRveva, magram imis 

gasarkvevad, iyo Tu ara beneficiaris 

daavadeba programiT dafinansebuli, 

gamokvleva sWirdeboda. 

amas ki saxelmwifo dazRveva 

rig SemTxvevebSi ar afinansebda. 

maSin, ratomRac, aravis daugdia 

yuri eqspertebisTvis imasTan 

daavSirebiT (arada, amaze xmamaRla 

yvirodnen), rom 36-e dadgenilebaSi 

CamoTvlili daavadebebisTvis 

klinikuri gaidlainebi da 

protokolebi ar arsebobs. zogadad, 

mTlian nusxaSi gaidlaini 

mxolod 129 daavadebisTvis arsebobs 

(gaidlaini _ instruqcia eqimebisTvis, 

romelic detalurad 

aRwers daavadebaTa jgufis calkeuli 

klinikuri mdgomareobis 

mkurnalobas). arada, gaidlainebis 

arseboba erT-erTi mTavari ganmsazRvreli 

faqtoria sadazRvevo 

kompaniebsa da klinikebs Soris 

anazRaurebasa da gaweul mkurnalobaze 

davebis mogvarebis sakiTxSi. 

ase da amgvarad, msgavsi ram ar 

arsebobda sayovelTao jandacvis 

programis paketSi (ukve naxsenebi 

120 daavadebis garda). es iyo pirveli 

etapi. meore etapi ki 2013 

wlis pirveli ivlisidan daiwyo. 

ras gulisxmobda meore etapi?! _ 

gafarTovda samedicino momsaxurebis 

speqtri, sayovelTao dazRvevis 

pakets daemata gadaudebeli 

da gegmuri qirurgiuli operaciebi, 

onkologiuri daavadebebis 

mkurnaloba, mSobiarobis 

xarjebis dafinanseba, sadac limiti 

fiziologiuri mSobiarobisas 

500 lars, sakeisro kveTis SemTxvevaSi 

ki 800 lars Seadgens. es ar 

iyo bevri. metic, Zalze mizeruli 

dafinanseba gaxldaT aRniSnuli 

operaciebisTvis. amaze yvela 

samSobiaros xelmZRvaneli ayvirda, 

magram maTTvis yuri aravis 

daugdia. 

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jandacvis sayovelTao 

programis Cavardnisa 

da sergeenkos fiaskos 

gauxmaurebeli 

detalebi 

2013 wlis ianvris „jandacvis 

sistemis efeqtianobis Sefasebis 

angariSSi” Caido, rom medikamentebis 

danaxarjebi jandacvisTvis 

gaRebuli saxsrebis TiTqmis naxevars 

Seadgens; rom aucilebelia 

sadazRvevo paketis gazrda medikamentebze 

xelmisawvdomobis mimarTulebiT”. 

Tumca arc maSin da 

arc Semdgom es rekomendacia ar 

gaiTvaliswines. 

axla rac Seexeba cifrebs: 2013 

wels sayovelTao jandacvis biujeti 

505 760 mln lariT ganisazRvra, 

saidanac (jandacvis saministros 

monacemebs Tu daveyrdnobiT) 

197 milioni auTvisebeli 

darCa; meore etapze, ukve, 278 146 

mln lari gamoiyo. 

Tumca manamde wina mTavrobis 

mier miRebuli dadgenilebebi gasauqmebeli 

da „arqimedes” skandali 

mosagvarebeli iyo. 2012 wlis 

bolo monacemebiT, #218-e da 

#165-e dadgenilebis farglebSi, 

saxelmwifo dazRveviT, jamurad, 

1 618 460 adamiani sargeblobda, 

xolo kerZo da korporaciuli 

dazRveviT _ 362 663 piri. saqar- 

Tvelos mosaxleobis 2 milionze 

met pirs dazRveva ar hqonda. Sesabamisad, 

sayovelTao jandacvis 

programa mosaxleobis am segmentis 

dazRvevas isaxavda miznad. 

2013 wlis pirveli ivlisis mdgomareobiT, 

sayovelTao jandacvis 

programis farglebSi, samedicino 

momsaxureba 1 347 658 moqalaqem 

miiRo. 

dadgenilebebs rac Seexeba, 

saqarTvelos mTavrobis 2009 wlis 

#218-e dadgenilebis farglebSi, 

saxelmwifo dazRveva siRaribis 

zRvars qvemoT myof mosaxleobaze, 

kompaqtur dasaxlebaSi myof 

iZulebiT gadaadgilebul pirebze, 

mzrunvelobamoklebul bavSvebsa 

da saxalxo artistebze vrceldeboda. 

saqarTvelos mTavrobis 

2012 wlis #165-e dadgenilebis 

farglebSi ki saxelmwifom 

0-5 asakis bavSvebi, asakiT pensionerebi, 

studentebi, SezRuduli 

SesaZleblobisa da mkveTrad 

gamoxatuli SezRuduli SesaZleblobis 

mqone bavSvebi daazRvia. 

janmrTelobis sayovelTao 

dazRvevis programas socialuri 

momsaxurebis saagento axorcielebs. 

im SemTxvevaSi, roca saxelmwifo 

dazRvevis programas kerZo 

kompaniebi axorcieleben, saxelmwifo 

beneficiarze gansazRvrul 

Tanxas sadazRvevo kompanias uxdis 

da Sesabamisad, finansuri riski 

sadazRvevo kompaniebze modis 

da ara saxelmwifoze. 

2013 wels cvlilebebi moxda 

#218-e da #165-e dadgenilebeb- 

Si, Tumca manamde mis farglebSi 

saxelmwifo dazRvevis programidan 

gavidnen sadazRvevo kompaniebi 

„alfa” da „qarTu”. qarTul sazogadoebas 

kargad axsovs „arqimedesTan” 

dakavSirebuli skandali, 

rodesac „arqimedes global 

jorjias” licenzia CamoerTva. iq 

dazRveuli pirebi maSin sayovel- 

Tao jandacvis programaSi avtomaturad 

CaerTnen. 

2013 wlis dekemberSi saerTa- 

Soriso fondma „kuraciom” (romlis 

erT-erTi xelmZRvaneli amJamindeli 

jandacvis komitetis 

Tavmjdomare akaki zoiZe iyo) jandacvis 

sistemis kvleva gamoaqveyna. 

gamokiTxul 98 eqsperts Soris 

umetesobam aRniSna, rom sayovel- 

Tao dazRvevis pirvel talRaSi 

isev gadauwyveteli da problemuri 

rCeba samedicino momsaxurebis 

xarisxi. magaliTad, kiTxvaze, 

_ bolo 6 Tvis manZilze rogor 

Seicvala, zogadad, samedicino 

momsaxurebis xarisxi qveyanaSi, 

gamokiTxul eqspertTa 41,7% pasuxobs, 

rom ar Secvlila. amave 

kvlevis pirvel etapze (2013 wlis 

aprili) aRniSnuli maCvenebeli 

42% iyo. kvlevis meore talRaSi 

eqspertTa 21,9% pasuxobs, rom 

„odnav an mniSvnelovnad gauaresda”, 

wina talRis SedegebiT es 

maCvenebeli 14.1% iyo. 

am kvlevaze jandacvis ministr 

daviT sergeenkos pasuxi iyo, rom 

araferic ar gauaresebula, piriqiT! 

es Tqva man 2013 wels. 2016 

wels ki daviT sergeenkom ganacxada, 

rom sayovelTao jandacvis 

sistemam ver gaamarTla da 2017 

wlidan igi yvelasTvis xelmisawvdomi 

aRar iqneba. 

da rodis iyo yvelasTvis xelmisawvdomi?! 

kanonmdeblobas gadavxedoT! _ 

sayovelTao janmrTelobis dacvis 

saxelmwifo programis mosargebleebi 

arian saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis 

damadasturebeli dokumentisa 

da saqarTveloSi statusis 

mqone moqalaqeobis armqone 

pirebi, garda saxelmwifo sadazRvevo 

programebis mosargebleebisa. 

es gaxlavT pirveli tyuili; 

Semdegi: sayovelTao dazRvevis 

programaSi nebismieri samedicino 

dawesebuleba monawileobda, romelic 

am saqmianobisTvis kanonmdeblobiT 

dadgenil moTxovnebs 

akmayofilebda, programaSi monawileobis 

survils gamoTqvamda, 

eTanxmeboda programis pirobebsa 

da dadgenili wesiT socialuri 

momsaxurebis saagentos programa- 

Si monawileobis survils werilobiT 

daudasturebda. dRes swored 

es samedicino klinikebi icxrileba 

da yvela veRar miiRebs monawileobas, 

arada, Tu es sayovelTao 

dazRvevaSi moxdeba, aseve iqneba 

kerZo dazRvevis paketSic. 

ra momsaxurebas moicavda sayovelTao 

jandacvis programa 

2016 wlamde da ra momsaxurebas 

gauwevs pacientebs 2017 wlidan? 

programiT gaTvaliswinebuli 

momsaxureba moicavda: gegmur, ambulatoriul, 

gadaudebel ambulatoriul, 

gadaudebel stacionarul 

mkurnalobas. Tavis mxriv, 

gegmuri ambulatoriuli momsaxureba 

iTvaliswinebda or ZiriTad 

bloks: ojaxis, an ubnis eqimisa da 

eqTnis momsaxurebas (romelic, 

Tavis mxriv, moicavda erovnuli 

kalendriT gaTvaliswinebul 

profilaqtikur acrebs). programa 

vrceldeboda aseve laboratoriul 

gamokvlevebze eqspresdiagnostikuri 

meTodiT (Sardis analizi, 

glukoza periferiul sisxlSi); 

aseve iTvaliswinebda eleqtrokardiografias, 

samedicino 

cnobebisa da receptebis gacemas. 

mniSvnelovnad aadvilebda 

faqts is garemoeba, rom gadaudebeli 

stacionaruli da ambulatoriuli 

mkurnalobis misaRebad 

moqalaqis mier raime saxis winaswari 

registracia ar iyo saWiro. 

Sesabamis registracias Setyobinebis 

saxiT akeTebs samedicino dawesebuleba, 

sadac pacienti moxvdeboda. 

Tavis mxriv, gadaudebeli 

stacionaruli momsaxureba 

moicavda iseTi mdgomareobebis 

dafinansebas, rodesac dauyovnebeli 

samedicino daxmarebis aRmoCena 

aucilebelia mosalodneli 

organos, an kiduris dakargvis, 

an pacientis gardacvalebis Tavidan 

asacileblad. es momsaxurebebi 

srulad finansdeboda da 

pacientis mxridan Tanagadaxdas 

ar iTvaliswinebda. gadaudebeli 

stacionaruli momsaxurebisTvis 

dawesebulia maqsimaluri limiti. 

erT SemTxvevaze 15 000 laris 

odenobiT iyo gansazRvruli. 

yovelive es imitom mogaxseneT, 

rom 2017 wlidan daavadebaTa CamonaTvali 

da momsaxurebis speqtri 

igive darCeba, mxolod, amieridan, 

es CamonaTvali yvela moqalaqisTvis 

xelmisawvdomi aRar iqneba. 

„qronika+” jandacvis saminis- 

trosa da parlamentis jandacvis 

komitets daukavSirda. 

zaza sofromaZe 

zaza sofromaZe _ jandacvis 

ministris moadgile: 

_ batono zaza, iseTi STabeWd- 

ileba rCeba, rom dartyma ori mi- 

marTulebiT midis. aqedan klinikebs 

gacxrilviT da sadazRvevo 

arteriis gadaketviT emuqre- 

bian. meore mxriv, sayovelTao 

dazRvevas yvela veRar miiRebs? 

_ ras gulisxmobT klinikebis 

„gacxrilvaSi”? anda, es ra terminia, 

ver gavige. am etapze, Seqmnilia 

samuSao jgufi, dgindeba 

kriteriumebi da Tu im kriteriumebSi 

klinika ver Cajda, bunebrivia, 

sayovelTao dazRvevis 

programas gamoeTiSeba. 

_ ra kriteriumebia es? 

_ SemuSavebis stadiaSia. 

_ anu SesaZloa, male klinike- 

bis garkveuli nawili „TamaSgare” 

aRmoCndes? 

_ ase ar vityodi. maTi ricxvi 

arc ise didia. SeiZleba aTi, meti, 

an naklebi. 

_ SesaZloa, rom am aT klini- 

kaSi Zalian cnobili klinikebi 

moxvdnen? 

_ nakleb savaraudoa, vinaidan 

maTi cnobadoba mainc maRali 

servisiTa da profesionaluri kadrebidan 

aris gamomdinare. 

dimitri xundaZe _ parlamentis 

jandacvis komitetis Tavmj- 

domare: 

_ is, rac klinikebTan da jandacvis 

sayovelTao dazRvevis 

programasTan mimarTebiT xdeba, 

sruliad kanonzomieria, vinaidan 

yvela reforma, droTa ganmavlobaSi, 

daxvewas da ganaxlebas 

moiTxovs. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, Tqveni Tavmj- 

domare akaki zoiZisgan xmamaRla 

gacxadda imis Sesaxeb, rom pro- 

grama Tavidanve xarveziani iyo. 

ufro xmamaRali gancxadebebic 

gakeTda, rom programam ver 

gaamarTla. 

_ ver dageTanxmebiT. Cven vinc 

videqiT am programis saTaveebTan, 

jer kidev, 2013 wels ganvacxadeT, 

rom reformis axali tal- 

Ra mesame etapis Semdeg daiwyeboda, 

rac, faqtobrivad, kidec daiwyo. 

12 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.

ezo SatakiSvili 


avixireT, brZen kacs „butkaSi” SevyavarTo. Turme, ra 

mwared vcdebodiT, mgoni, brezentgadafarebul daxlze gvy- 

idis da ver gagvigia. ise dagvweres jvari „gazpromze”, mu- 

dosaviT xmac ar amogvaRebines. 


biZina xeebs iqiT-aqeT daatarebs 

da Tavs imiT Tu davimSvidebT, 

amerikelebs rom ar udgaT 

naklebi gansacdeli _ trampi 

rom meqsikis didi kedlis 

mSeneblobis JiniTaa Sepyrobili. 

aq konstituciaSi imas gviweren, 

vin visTan unda igoraos 

da am SemTxvevaSic, imiT Tu davimSvidebT 

Tavs, rom trampi abortebs 

ebrZvis da male, albaT, 

egec akrZalavs bususian prezervativebs, 

rac Cven ukve gamogvatara 

biZina-mosem 2030 wlamde 

gadaWimul udabnos gzaze. 

an am saerTaSoriso paralelebs 

moveSvebiT da Tavs isev 

adgilobrivi warmoebis „sibrZniT” 

davimSvidebT. ager gamovida 

kvirikaSvili da gvamcno, _ 

qveyana Zalian karg pirobebSi 

ariso. diax, miuxedavad socialuri 

fonisa, qveyana Zalian 

karg pirobebSi ariso, diax, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom 2012 wlis 

Semdeg lari 60-65%-iT gaufasurda, 

qveyana mainc Zalian 

karg pirobebSi ariso. Cvenc ra- 

Ra dagvrCenia? mtris jinaze 

cxrajer mwared gavicinoT! 

ara, yvelaferi gavige, Wirsac 

wauRia socialuri fonic 

da 65%-iT gaufasurebuli laric, 

magram ranairad varT karg 

pirobebSi, rodesac Ramis klubebSi 

qarTvelebs ar gviSveben? 

amas eZaxis batoni kvirikaSvili 

karg pirobebs? Tu bozebSi 

wels gvipirebs wayvanas da jer 

ar gvimxels, siurprizad unda? 

sarkazmi iqiT iyos da marTla 

amaT aJrialebT Tu Cven gvaJrialebs, 

am yvelafers rom vismenT 

da mTeli qveyana „tuflebidan” 

sinqronulad ar vxtebiT? 

5,5 milionad aerosmiti rom 

CamohyavT, is mainc gagvagebinon, 

qveyanas ulxins Tu uWirs? 

Tu uWirs, ra gveaerosmiteba da 

Tu gvilxins, ra xalxis samsaxurebidan 

gamoyra autydaT? aa, 

biurokratiul aparats amcireben? 

da devnilebs rom Semweobas 

uxsnian? amiT ras amcireben? 

ras ar vici da eg yvelam 

viciT _ vis amcireben da sul- 

Si afurTxeben! samarcxvinoa 

yvela is varianti, romelic 

subaris saministrom moamzada! 

erT-erTi variantiT maT, visac 

165 larze maRali Semosavali 

aqvT, 45-lariani Semweoba gauuqmdebaT. 

meti cinizmi gagigiaT? 

e. i. adamians Tu 170 lari 

aqvs, iseTi maZRari yofila, 

rom is ZunZgliani 45 lari Ripad 

da Rababad daedeba! am limitis 

dawesebis SemTxvevaSi, 26 

aTas devnils gauuqmdeba Semweoba 

da weliwadSi 14 milionze 

cota meti daizogeba! verafers 

ityvi, kargi danazogia, 

am fasad bebiaCemisdroindel 

varskvlavsac wamoayeneb saflavidan 

da koncerts Caatarebineb! 

limitis meore variantad 

400 lari aqvT dasaxelebuli, 

anu Semweoba gauuqmdebaT maT, 

visac 400 larze meti Semosavali 

aqvT. am limitis dawesebis 

SemTxvevaSi 18 600 devnils gauuqmdeba 

Semweoba _ weliwadSi 

10 milionze cota meti daizogeba. 

limitis mesame varianti 

700 laria, anu Semweoba gauuqmdeba 

maT, visac 700 larze meti 

Semosavali aqvs. 700 larze meti 

Semosavali mxolod 11 200 devnils 

hqonia da am gziT 6 048 

000 larze mets ver zogaven. meoTxe 

varianti aTaslariani limitia 

da, am gziT, 6 aTas devnils 

mouxsnian Semweobas da 

mxolod 3 240 000 lars dazogaven. 

anu oTxi varianti dades, 

romelic gauvaT, imas gaitanen. 

iqneba protesti? meoTxes miawvebian, 

ar iqneba? egreve pirvelSi 

Caagdeben! kidev ufro 

cinikuria subaris saministros 

mier Semogdebuli meore alternativa. 

am meore alternatiuli 

variantiT, devnilTa 

Semweobas miiReben mxolod is 

pirebi, romlebmac uSualod 

ganicades devna, meore Taobis 

devnilebs ki Semweoba moexsnebaT. 

da iciT, ratom yofila 

es kargi? yovelwliurad aRar 

moimatebs 5 aTasiT es ricxvi 

da yovelwliurad Semcirdeba 

es ricxvi 2 aTasi kaciT _ wliurad 

xom isedac akldeba 2 

aTasi adamiani gardacvalebis 

gamo... gesmiT, Tqven? uxariaT, 

xalxi ixoceba da yovel wels 2- 

2 aTasi mogvakldebao! am meore 

variantiT ki, wliurad, 34 milioni 

daizogeba. 

amaT rom usmino, Turme, mxolod 

isini dazaralebulan, 

visac uSualod Seexo devna da 

imaT, vinc devnilobaSi daibada 

da bavSvoba iveriis „kolofebSi”, 

an, kidev, uares pirobebSi 

gaatara, netarebaSi ucxovriaT! 

aranakleb cinikuria mesame 

alternativac, Turme, Semweoba 

unda moexsnaT maT, romlebic 

dakmayofildnen grZelvadiani 

gansaxlebiT, da mieceT mxolod 

maT, romlebic jer ar dakmayofilebulan 

am gansaxlebiT. 

Weri Wamos am xalxma? 

jer 45 lari ra aris da mere 

amis moxsna? an es Rirsebis Semlaxveli 

proeqti ra tvinSi momwifda? 

erTi xeliT amas akeTebs 

batoni subari da meore xeliT 

ar gainteresebT, riTaa 

dakavebuli? am dReebSi, rusTavelze, 

avtomanqana, romelsac 

marTavda giorgi (gibo) jafariZe, 

sawinaaRmdego moZraobis 

zolze gadavida da Seejaxa 

taqss. daiRupa taqsiSi mjdomi 

axalgazrda gogona da axla, 

rogorc cotne gamsaxurdia 

wers, swored subaris didi 

mcdelobis Sedegad gausvlelobis 

xelweriliT gauTavisuflebiaT! 

anu Tu subarTan 

daaxloebuli piri xar, rac 

ginda qeni da moimoqmede da Tu 

ara, im sabralo gogonasaviT 

zed rusTavelze migasresen da 

damnaSaves gausvlelobis xelwerilis 

amara gauSveben! mTavaria, 

lorTqifaniZes Rili ar 

biZinas 

dazolili 

incitatusi 

Seawyvito, Torem cixes gaxexineben. 

amas eZaxiT Tavisufal 

sunTqvas? es iyo Tqveni ocneba? 

esaa saxelmwifo? am sistemaSi 

grZnobT Tavs komfortulad? 

da Tu es Waobi ganiWebT 

komforts, ar kiTxulobT, vin 

gamodixarT? dagugleT mainc, 

vin cxovrobs WaobSi komfortulad, 

sanam vinmes pirSi mouxlia 

mware simarTle! 

esaa, xom kargi pirobebi, 

rogorc batonma kvirikaSvilma 

gvibrZana, _ qveyana aris Zalian 

karg pirobebSi. baton kvirikaSvils, 

etyoba, Tavisi Tavi hgonia 

qveyana da TviTon rom karg 

pirobebSia, hgonia, rom qveyanaa 

karg pirobebSi. es ludovikur 

stilSi, folklorul stilSi 

ki, _ maZRars yvela maZRari egonao, 

magis ambavi egrea. Tvi- 

Ton rom arian gancxromasa da 

netarebaSi, hgoniaT, mTeli qveyana 

ase maZRaria. es kvirikaSvili 

marto maSin rom xteba manqanidan, 

rodesac viRacas dainaxavs 

manqanagafuWebuls da 

marto universitetis win, miwisqveSaSi 

rom eSveba orfeosiviT, 

egeb, isedac gaiar-gamoiaros 

qveyanaSi, an, bolo-bolo, 

mina Cawios da gamoixedos, 

ra xdeba im qveyanaSi, romlis 

premier-ministrobac daabrales 

da romelic hgonia, rom 

Zalian karg pirobebSia. an im 

brZenma kacma, xeebs rom iqiTaqeT 

„atasavebs”, xeebis nacvlad 

TviTon gaiaros qveyanaSi, 

naxos, ra dReSia xalxi. qveyana- 

Si gaiaros, xalxSi gaiaros da 

ara ise, rogorc winasaarCevnod 

moiara qveyana _ TeatrebSi 

rom marTavda monospeqtaklebs. 

adre Tu formalurad mainc 

Caatara saprezidento arCevnebi 

da Tavis mrvels Tavis mierve 

xeldasxmuli margvelaSvili 

aarCevina (realurad dagviniSna 

prezidenti), axla, ukve, esec 

ezareba da unda, rom Cven, xalxma 

ki ara, parlamentma airCios 

prezidenti. xedavT mainc, 

ra maRali warmodgena aqvs 

Tqvens brZen kacs Tqvenze? an 

sxvas ras elodiT? eg nicSes ar 

cnobs avtoritetad da Tqven, 

vinc askiliviT Tavs uqnevT, 

ramed CagagdebdaT? gamovida 

ager vinme TalakvaZe CipolinosaviT 

da gvamcno, _ Cvenao, 

ukve realurad saparlamento 

modeli gvaqvs qveyanaSio da amitom 

sakonstitucio cvlilebebis 

procesSi es unda aisaxos, 

kidev ufro unda gaZlierdes 

saparlamento modelio, 

prezidentis arCevis wesi da 

modeli unda iyos misi funqciebis, 

uflebamosilebebisa da 

misi politikuri rolis Sesabamisio. 

Tu axla eseni dRevandeli 

prezidentis funqciasa da 

rols gulisxmoben, maSin parlamentmac 

ar unda airCios, 

konkursi unda gamocxaddes, 

vin ukeT qsovs da vin ukeT cxovrobs 

feSenebelur sasaxleSi. 

axla, alag-alag, mSvidobaSi, 

vetos mixoc daadebs, rogorc 

im anekdotSia, maros saflavs 

rom aweria, _ dagado mixom. 

mokled, aRarc prezidenti 

iqneba Cveni asarCevi, parlaments 

aarCevinebs da vinZlo saqme 

iqamdec ar mivides, rogorc 

kaligulam Tavisi cxeni incitatusi 

Seiyvana senatSi, ise ar 

Seiyvanos biZinam Tavisi zebrac 

da rogorc kaligulam incitatusis 

konsulad daniSvna moiwadina, 

ise ar moiwadinos zebris 

prezidentad arCeva. me Sen 

getyvi da nicSe wamoxteba saflavidan 

da SeekamaTeba, an parlamentSi 

misi sakonstitucio 

umravlesoba Sehbedavs rames. 

sxva ras unda elodo qveyanaSi, 

sadac zaqaria qucnaSvils 

SeuZlia mebrZols, gmirs mkvleli 

uwodos da pasuxad damsaxurebul 

lafs rom miiRebs, 

aqeT media daadanaSaulos, arasworad 

gaigeso da metic, Jurnalisti 

mialanZRos, zrdiloba 

iqonieo. „ar vici, gia cercvaZes 

raSi sdeben brals es ar 

vici, ar SeiZleba iyos afxazeT- 

Si brZola an ukrainaSi brZola 

induligencia. es ar aris raRacisgan 

pasuxismgeblobis Tavis 

aridebis saSualeba”, _ ase br- 

Zana sityva sityviT da isic 

brZana: „ruseTTan, mkvlelebis 

nawilSi, me vfiqrob, unda vi- 

TanamSromloT”... 

kidev, mediam, Cven gavigeT 

rame arasworad? romel mebrZolsac 

ruseTi saqmes SeuTi- 

Txnis, unda avdgeT da sajijgnad 

mivugdoT? gmirebi putins 

mivgvaroT sasaklaoze da Cven 

zaqariebis amara davrCeT? barem, 

Cvenc xeli mogvxvieT da er- 

Tad migvgvareT putins da aq marto 

Tqven darCiT da erTad 

itlinkaveT aerosmitis 5,5-milionian 

koncertze! 

13

evaz SatakiSvili 


„nacionalur moZraobasa” da 

qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebze 

„qronika+”-s esaubreba „naciona- 

luri moZraobis” wevri _ petre 

ciskariSvili. 

_ im mtkivneuli procesebis 

Semdeg, rac enm-m gadaitana, Seswevs 

Tu ara partias Zala, mos- 

alodnel gamowvevas upasuxos? 

gamoricxuli araa, inflaciis, 

valutis gaufasurebisa da sxva 

mZime problemebis gamo, gazafxulze 

ifeTqos protestma. Se- 

Zlebs „nacionaluri moZraoba”, 

fexi auwyos xalxis ganwyobas da 

am procesebis avangardSi aR- 

moCdes? 

_ rac Cvens partiaSi moxda, namdvilad 

ar iyo sasiamovno procesi, 

sakmaod mtkivneuli gaxldaT. 

yvelafers rom Tavi davaneboT, 

politikuri TanamebrZolobis 

garda, am adamianebTan piradi 

urTierTobebi Camogviyalibda da 

ukve wlebia, megobroba gvakav- 

Sirebda. Zalian guldasawyvetia, 

rac moxda. Tumca xelisuflebaSi 

rodesac viyaviT, maSinac gvtovebdnen 

Cveni megobrebi, vinc manamde 

Cveni partiis ganuyofeli nawili 

gvegona, liderebadac rom 

moiazrebodnen, iseTebi. opozicia- 

Si gadasvlis Semdeg, gasagebi mizezebis 

gamo, kidev ufro intensiuri 

gaxda es procesi _ yvela ver 

uZlebs opoziciuri partiis winaSe 

arsebul gamowvevebs, sirTuleebs, 

rac Tan axalavs opoziciaSi yofnas. 

kidev erTxel wagebuli ar- 

Cevnebis Semdeg gasagebia, rom ra- 

Rac moxdeboda da moxda kidec. sawyenia, 

rom Cveni megobrebi ase wavidnen. 

Tumca „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

wevrebis absoluturi umravlesoba 

arsad wasula da es yrilobazec 

gamoCnda. Cvengan gamijnuli 

liderebisgan moismendiT, _ 

ai, Tbilisis amdeni da amdeni organizaciidan 

amdeni CvenTan wamovidao. 

ki, ramdenime organizaciis 

xelmZRvaneli, maT mier kontrolirebadi, 

maTi daniSnuli, an Zalian 

axlo, piradi megobari iyo da 

wavida, magram im organizaciebis 

mTeli aqtivi isev „nacionalur 

moZraobaSi” darCa. ase rom, am cifrebis 

moyvanac sazogadoebis SecdomaSi 

Seyvanis mcdelobaa Cveni 

yofili TanamebrZolebis mxridan. 

_ Tundac raRac nawili gahy- 

oloda, es ras cvlis? mTavari 

isaa, amomrCeveli Tu gagyveba... 

_ politikur landSaftSi es 

arc arafers cvlis, magram maT 

undodaT, es procesi warmoeCinaT, 

rogorc partiis gayofa, da ara 

maTi gamoyofa; rom partia daiSala, 

or Tanabar Zalad gaiyo. 

_ maTi mxridan aqtiurad apelirebam 

partiis gayofaze mxardamWerebSi 

eWvi gaaCina, rom isi- 

ni viRacas abarebdnen angariSs, 

rom partia Tu ver waarTves mixeil 

saakaSvils, daungries, gaux- 

liCes mainc. 

_ SeiZleba, erTi mxriv, asec 

waikiTxo da meore mxriv, rom Cven 

vaSaZe, an „girCi” ki ar varT, ki 

aravin dagviRalatebia, an brZola- 

Si migvitovebia, ubralod, axla 

Suaze gaiyo, rac xdeba xolme, ra 

vqnaT... amis warmoCineba undodaT 

da amisTvis iyo mniSvnelovani, ai, 

amdeni organizacia Cven gamogvyvao. 

_ anu ise surdaT warmoCena, 

rogorc, Tavis droze, „edepe” 

gaiyo „edeped” da „saxalxo par- 

tiad”? 

_ diax, raRac aseTi, rom mcire 

jgufi ki ar gamoeyo, partia Suaze 

gaiyo. 

_ wasulebis mimarT bevrs 

hqonda pretenzia, rom Tuki maT 

saakaSvilisgan gamijvna surdaT, 

ratom ar gaemijnen arCevnebamde? 

14 

CemTvis eg ufro gasagebia, ratom 

ar gaemijnen isini arCevnebamde 

saakaSvils, vidre is, ratom ar 

gaakeTa es Tavad saakaSvilma da 

Tqven, im nawilma, vinc saakaSvils 

uWerT mxars? is, rac CvenTvis, 

farTo sazogadoebisTvis arCevn- 

ebis Semdeg gaxda cnobili, xom 

faqtia, rom TqvenTvis arCevnebamdec 

iyo cxadi? ratom ar acno- 

beT es amomrCevels, ra gakaveb- 

daT? 

_ dRes Zalian logikurad JRers 

es SekiTxva, magram im etapze 

Cven wagebaze ar vfiqrobdiT, mar- 

Tla gamarjvebisTvis vibrZodiT 

da gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi, eWvic 

xom ar geparebaT, rom aravin gamogveyofoda, 

vinme gamogveyofoda 

ki ara, iqiT kars CamogviRebdnen 

kakuniT sxva jgufebi, organizaciebi, 

partiebi, da a. S. 

_ aravin gamogeyofodaT, magram 

eWvi geparebaT, rom gamar- 

jvebis SemTxvevaSi eg gundi 

saakaSvils gverdze gawevda? 

_ eg kidev ufro didi usamarTloba 

iqneboda... ar vici, magaze 

SeiZleba, vidaoT, an piriqiT... vin 

miiwerda am gamarjvebas, gaaCnia. 

_ rogor fiqrobT, vin miiwer- 

da? saakaSvilis wyalobiT miiRes 

naxevari milioni xma da isev mas 

daabrales, magan wagvagebina 

arCevnebi, ufro mets miviRebdi- 

To. 

_ eg xom saerTod saubris 

calke Temaa... 

_ Tqven icodiT, rom xalxi 

mxars uWers saakaSvils da misgan 

gamomdinare partiis sias, Tqven 

aseve icodiT, rom siaSi myofTa 

didi nawili saakaSvilis mowinaaRmdege 

iyo, rac ucnobi gaxl- 

daT amomrCevlisTvis da ar 

SeatyobineT. amomrCevels rom 

scodnoda es yvelaferi, xom ar 

Secdeboda? 

_ partiis SigniT, zogierTi Cveni, 

dRes ukve yofili TanamebrZolis 

mxridan saakaSvilis pirovnebasTan 

dakavSirebuli sirTuleebi 

mTeli am 3-4 wlis ganmavlobaSi 

SeimCneoda, rasac, yovelTvis, ra- 

Racnairad, varegulirebdiT. gvegona, 

rom ukiduresi damarcxebis 

SemTxvevaSic ki, Tu aseTi sirTuleebi 

kvlav iCenda Tavs, ramenairad 

davaregulirebdiT, mividodiT 

garkveul kompromisamde, rogorc 

es xdeboda mTeli am 3-4 wlis ganmavlobaSi. 

rogorc aRmoCnda, gulubryvilo 

imedi iyo... arCevnebis 

Semdeg gaaTmagebuli niaRvari wamovida, 

_ rogor, Tu Tqven mxars 

uWerT, Tqven xarT beladomanebi, 

saakaSvilistebi Tu miSistebi, jandaba, 

ubedureba, unda gavemijnoT, 

gadavayenoT, es Tavi gadavfurcloT, 

davxuroT, movrCeT, davaneboT 

Tavi, ukrainelia... Tavisi nebiT 

xom araa ukrainaSi? am xelisuflebam 

gandevna, gaaZeva qveynidan 

da ar aZlevs politikur procesebSi 

srulfasovnad CarTvis saSualebas. 

amitomacaa simbolurad vakanturad 

datovebuli Tavmjdomaris 

posti. im jgufs Tavmjdomaris 

skami imdenad arc aiteresebda, 

petre ciskariSvili: 

`Tu amomrCeveli 

aqtiuri iqneba, 

xelisufleba 

vadamdel 

arCevnebs 

daniSnavs!~ 

ramdenadac saakaSvilis saerTod 

Caxsna procesebidan, rom aranairi 

gavlena ar hqonoda arc gadawyvetilebebis 

mimReb politsabWo- 

Si da arc samdivnoSi, romelic 

partiis yoveldRiur saqmianobas 

warmarTavs. politsabWoSic da samdivnoSic 

mixeil saakaSvils yovelTvis 

hqonda poziciebi da am 

gundis amocana swored es iyo, berketebi 

gamoecalaT xelidan da is 

Tavmjdomaris skami iyo, rogorc 

tortze alubali. mas ar hqonia 

raime mniSvnelovani datvirTva, 

ubralod, ase gayiddnen, rom air- 

Cies axali Tavmjdomare, Torem, 

sinamdvileSi, am or organoze _ 

politsabWosa da samdivnoze _ 

sruli kontrolis mopoveba 

surdaT. 

_ axseneT, gamarjvebisTvis vibrZodiTo 

da im saarCevno kampa- 

niiT, rasac eweodiT, gamarjvebis 

imedi marTla gqondaT? gjero- 

daT, rom „TeTri xelTaTmanebiT” 

moaxrCobdiT oligarqiul re- 

Jims? amomrCevels imedi hqonda, 

rom bolo Tves mainc gaamwvaveb- 

diT im davarcxnil kampanias. gaam- 

wvaveT ki ara, ra koSmaruli 

faqtebic iyo, imasac uyruebdiT 

da imedi gqondaT, rom ase lon- 

doneli dendebiviT moxvidodiT 

xelisuflebaSi? 

_ mag TeTri xelTaTmanebis garda 

eyrdnobodnen raRac kvlevebs 

da absurduli pozicia iyo partiis 

liderSipSi, rom xalxs unda 

teqnikuri mTavroba, rom laris 

problema mogvardes, gamyardes, 

samuSao adgilebi Seiqmnas, gadasaxadebi 

Semcirdes, mowesrigdes 

ekonomika, kriminali moiTokos da 

a. S. bevr Cvengans, zogs mainc, amis 

ar gvjeroda, saqarTveloSi ki ara, 

teqnikur mTavrobas daniasa da 

SvedeTSic ar irCeven, iqac eqSeni, 

lideri da qarizma, es faqtorebi 

muSaobs saarCevno kampaniis procesSi 

da aq daiwyes, xalxs teqnikuri 

mTavroba undao. es TavSive 

araswori pozicia mTel kampanias 

gahyva Sleifad, metic _ partiis 

dnm-d gadaiqca. Tumca am xalxisac 

mesmis, rodesac ar gaqvs qarizma, 

xelSi ar giWiravs es instrumenti, 

cdilob ase, teqnikuri mTavrobiT 

gaZvre, gaxvide fons _ ai, es gadagarCenT, 

xalxo, teqnikuri mTavroba 

_ kompetenturi, gamocdili 

mTavroba, romelic larsac dagistabilurebT, 

dagasaqmebT kidec, 

gadasaxadebsac SegimcirebT da a. 

S. rodesac ar gaqvs is draivi, rac 

saakaSvils hqonda 2003 wels, cdilob, 

sxva torti SesTavazo xalxs, 

sxva gemovnebis amomrCevelze imuSao, 

magram im gemovnebis amomrCevels 

Tavisi arCevani ukve gakeTebuli 

aqvs... 

_ bevri gamoTqvamda varauds, 

rom maT arc undodaT gamarjve- 

ba da es iyo brZola garantire- 

bulad umciresobaSi da ara um- 

ravlesobaSi mosasvlelad. 

_ da rbilad jdoma im savar- 

ZlebSi... ver vityvi, rom gamarjveba 

ar undodaT, magram ramdenad 

sjerodaT, rTuli saTqmelia. faqtia, 

rom teqnikuri mTavrobis 

principidan amosvla fundamenturi 

Secdoma iyo. 

_ rodesac partiis SigniT 

vinme iTxovda kampaniis gamwvavebas, 

garkveuli doziT radikal- 

izacias, Temebis wamowevas, rac 

SesabamisobaSi iyo eleqtoratis 

ganwyobebTan, ra xdeboda maSin, 

ras ambobdnen? 

_ arsebobs partiuli disciplina. 

vimeoreb, isini akontrolebdnen 

samdivnos, politsabWos 

da rogorc daigegma, aewyo da 

dadga relsebze es kampania, iseve 

gagrZelda. aseT iniciativas saku- 

Tar Tavze aravin iRebs, partiis 

mTavari xazidan ver gadauxvev. ver 

vityvi, rom yovel meore dRes iyo 

aseTi iniciativebi sxvadasxva 

mxridan, rom kampania gavamwvavoTo. 

Tu raRac iyo, swored im disciplinuri 

moTxovnebidan gamomdinare 

egreve Cerdeboda, rom Cven 

rogorc davgegmeT, ra mesijboqs- 

Sic vzivarT, imaSi unda davrCeT, 

aqedan Sen marjvniv, marcxniv Tu 

gadauxvev, ese igi, partiis mTavar 

xazs Ralatob da Seni adgili aq 

ar aris. 

_ ivaniSvilis xelisuflebas 

„nacionalurma moZraobam” imTav- 

iTve miaweba iarliyi „uniaTo”. 

axla mainc Tu aRiarebT, rom es 

sabediswero SecdomaTagani iyo _ 

mavneblebs uniaTo SearqviT da am 

„uniaTo-uniaTos” ZaxilSi ki SegisrulaT 

_ sakonstitucio umrav- 

lesoba moipova. 

_ geTanxmebiT... „uniaTo” pirvelsave 

TveebSi SeerqvaT, roca bevri 

mimarTulebiT, marTlac, unia- 

Toba, arakompetenturoba gamoavlines. 

_ jaSuSebis cixidan 

politpatim- 

ris statusiT gamoSveba uniaTobaa? 

an is farTomasStabiani amnis- 

tia, rodesac wulukianma Tavisi 

gadawyvetilebiT qveyanas tur- 

istebi daakargvina? 

_ eg mavnebloba iyo. 

_ es imTaviTve iyo da Tqven 

gaiZaxodiT „uniaTo-uniaTos”. 

_ geTanxmebiT, mavnebel da 

kolaboracionist Zalas rom uniaTos 

uwodeb, marTlac Serbilebaa. 

sinamdvileSi, rodesac maT 

sWirdebodaT, Cveni megobrebis 

cixeebSi Cayra iyo Tu ruseTis- 

Tvis qedis waxra, Zalianac „niaTianebi” 

iyvnen da yvelaferi mSvenivrad 

moaxerxes, araferi uniaToba 

ar gamouCeniaT. dabolos, aranairi 

uniaToebi arCevnebze ar gamodgnen, 

samxedro specoperacia 

mTeli qveynis masStabiT Caatares 

Tavisi gayalbebiT, mosyidviT, 

daSinebiT. yvela elementi aamuSaves, 

rasac ki SeeZlo maTTvis 

xmebi moetana. uniaTobaSi namdvilad 

ver dasdeb brals, am nawil- 

Si mainc, magram am mavneblobasTan 

da ruseTis mimarT Tavis daxris 

politikasTan erTad, aseve unda 

SevTanxmdeT, rom Zalian arakompetenturebi 

arian da piradi erTgulebisa 

da ivaniSvilisadmi loialuri 

da axlobluri damokidebulebis 

niSniT xvdebian mTavroba- 

Si. es arakompetenturoba vlindeba 

yvela nabijze da amitomac aris 

am dReSi qveyana, stagnacia, fasebi 

maRla midis, lari garbis. rogorc 

ki raime ekonomikur gadawyvetilebaze 

miva saqme, saSualo, an grZelvadian 

periodze ki ar fiqroben, 

cdiloben, rogorme, dRevandeli, 

maqsimum, xvalindeli problema 

moagvaron, _ nu iqneba oRond bunti. 

ase rom, erTicaa da meorec _ 

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uniaTobac da mavneblobac, magram 

termini sworad iyo SesarCevi, geTanxmebiT. 

_ axla dolarSi arsebuli 

sesxebis galarebas gvTavazoben, 

rac safrTxes uqmnis rogorc sa- 

banko seqtors, iseve mosaxleobas. 

Tu lari gaiqca, bankebi izarale- 

ben da Tu Semdeg lari gamyarda 

_ mosaxleoba, vinc sesxs gaalarebs. 

Tan Cveni gadaxdili gada- 

saxadebidan unda moxdes am gala- 

rebis subsidireba. gaugebaria, 

Tqven ratom unda ixadoT fuli 

imisTvis, rom me sesxi gavalaro? 

an piriqiT, me ratom unda vafinanso 

Tqveni sesxis galareba? re- 

alurad, rasTan gvaqvs saqme, ras 

emsaxureba? 

_ mag negatiur efeqtebs fasebis 

zrdac daemateba. geTanxmebiT, 

banks Tavisi Tanxebi dolarSi aqvs 

moziduli da Tu larSi gadaukonvertireb 

da mere kursi gaiqca, cxadia, 

izaralebs da Tu piriqiT _ 

lari gamyarda, msesxebeli izaralebs. 

refinansirebis sesxebi kidev 

ebis gadaxdis Semdeg aRarafris 

sayideli fuli ar rCeboda da imitom 

ar gavarda fasebi zemoT 

katastrofulad. axla, Tu sesxs 

yvela, an umetesoba larSi gadaitans, 

dolari aRar eqneba sayideli 

da msyidvelunarianoba aiwevs, 

aucileblad mohyveba Zalian maRali 

inflacia. ukve 4,5,6%-iani inflacia 

ki aRar iqneba, aramed 15, 

20 da 30%-iani. amaSi cdebian eseni, 

raxan fasebi mainc ar garbis, 

modi, axla, sesxebi gavalaroT, 

rom kursma xalxi ar anerviulos, 

lari romc uaresad gaufasurdes, 

amaze aRaravin inerviulebs. 

_ ar inerviulebs ki ara, gaux- 

ardeba kidec, sad garkveuli Za- 

lis mqone, vTqvaT, 800 laris 

gadaxda da sad _ gaufasurebu- 

lis. 

_ sesxis gadaxdis dros gagixardeba, 

magram supermarketSi rom 

Sexval, iq gewyineba. vimeoreb, yvela 

ar gaalarebs sesxs da romc 

yvelam gaalaros, fasebi katastrofulad 

gavardeba. an erTi mo- 

aris imdenad susti ekonomisti, 

rom es ar scodnoda. investicias 

rom amiT Caanacvleb, narkotikiviT 

rom miaCvev da mere Sewyvet, is 

SekumSuli zambara uaresad gaiSleba 

erTbaSad. es gadasarevad icoda 

da mainc xarjavda rezervebs. 

_ an erTi moxdeba an meoreo, 

TqviT, me mgoni, orivec moxdeba, 

laric gaiqceva da fasebic da 

xalxic gamovardeba quCaSi, aris 

Tu ara partia mzad quCis aqcieb- 

isTvis? mosaxleobaSi muxticaa 

da protestic, Tu gindaT, amas 

dainaxavT, Tu ara, iZaxebT, _ mux- 

ti araa, muxti araa!.. arc 2003 

wels moxdeboda rame, quCaSi rom 

ar gamosuliyo vinme da procese- 

bi ar aegorebina. 

_ 2003-Si saakaSvili gvyavda bazarze. 

am rangis axla aravin aris. 

magitomac dgas eg amocana, rom 

arasodes ar dabrundes aq da magitomac 

gvewyina Cven da magitomac 

gaCnda azri, rom garkveuli gundi 

biZina ivaniSvilis survilebs asrulebs, 

rodesac mis Camocilebas 

lebuliyaviT, amitom erTjeradi 

gamafrTxilebeli aqciebi iyo. meore 

mxriv, liderSipic gvaklda. 

_ burjanaZesa da gaCeCilaZes 

ki nu daemsgavsebodiT, Tqvens 

Tavs damsgavsebodiT, rac 2003 

wels iyaviT. 

_ 2003 wlisgan gansxvavebiT, am 

jerze, lideri ar gvyavda da Tan, 

saxelmwifo institutebi, rac im 9 

wlis manZilze Seiqmna, axlac mu- 

Saobs, _ ase Tu ise, Suqi ar qreba, 

wyali ar wydeba, gazi miewodebaT, 

Cveulebrivi yofiTi problemebi 

moxsnilia, ris gamoc maSin Zalian 

didi muxti iyo, korufcia Wamda 

yvelafers da yvelas, xalxs xeli 

Caqneuli hqonda da undoda swori 

liderSipi da qarizmatuli lideri, 

swori xedvebiT da iyo aseTi 

lideric mixeil saakaSvilis saxiT. 

problemebi axlac uxvadaa, magram 

am problemebs unda gamoexmauro 

da problemebidan Seqmna erTi 

didi muxti. miSa saakaSvili 2003 

wels uceb ki ar aRmocenebula, 

jer kidev SevardnaZis ministri 

amomrCevelsac unda mivawodoT, 

unda gavideT da xalxs detalurad 

unda avuxsnaT, ra aris es Cveni 

idealebi: rom esaa usafrTxo 

qveyana, Zlieri ekonomika, evrointegraciis 

perspeqtiva, Seni qveyniT 

siamayis gancda da ara is, rac 

dResaa _ mijiryvnil qveynad gadaviqeciT. 

sazogadoebas unda mivawodoT 

Cveni partiis ganaxlebuli 

saxe, ra iqneba Cveni partiis xelisuflebaSi 

mosvlis pirobebSi. 

diax, xelisuflebaSi mosvlisa da 

ara dabrunebis pirobebSi. am termins 

Zalian arasworad amboben, 

yrilobazec axsenes da yurSi momxvda. 

aravin arsad ar brundeba, 

aravin arsad ar dagabrunebs, warsulSi 

dabruneba aravis unda, miuxedavad 

imisa, im warsulSi ukeTesad 

iyo, Tu ara. xalxi an xelaxla 

mogiyvans xelisuflebaSi, an ar 

mogiyvans. 2003-Si sxva saqarTveloSi 

moxvedi xelisuflebaSi da 

axla rom moxval, sul sxva amocanebi 

geqneba da sul sxva gamo- 

`partiis SigniT, zogierTi Cveni, dRes ukve yofili TanamebrZolis 

mxridan saakaSvilis pirovnebasTan dakavSirebuli sirTuleebi mTeli 

am 3-4 wlis ganmavlobaSi SeimCneoda, rasac, yovelTvis, raRacnairad, 

varegulirebdiT. gvegona, rom ukiduresi damarcxebis SemTxvevaSic ki, 

Tu aseTi sirTuleebi kvlav iCenda Tavs, ramenairad 

davaregulirebdiT, mividodiT garkveul kompromisamde, rogorc es 

xdeboda mTeli am 3-4 wlis ganmavlobaSi. rogorc aRmoCnda, 

gulubryvilo imedi iyo... arCevnebis Semdeg gaaTmagebuli niaRvari 

wamovida, - rogor, Tu Tqven mxars uWerT, Tqven xarT beladomanebi, 

saakaSvilistebi Tu miSistebi, jandaba, ubedureba, unda gavemijnoT, 

gadavayenoT, es Tavi gadavfurcloT, davxuroT, movrCeT, davaneboT 

Tavi, ukrainelia... Tavisi nebiT xom araa ukrainaSi? am 

xelisuflebam gandevna, gaaZeva qveynidan da ar aZlevs politikur 

procesebSi srulfasovnad CarTvis saSualebas. amitomacaa 

simbolurad vakanturad datovebuli Tavmjdomaris posti~ 

naxevari %-iT gaZvirda dolarTan 

mimarTebiT, imitom rom riskiani 

valutaa. es laris sesxebi ufro 

Zviri iqneba msesxleblisTvis, 

msesxeblebi marto kerZo pirebi 

xom ar arian, kompaniebic arian da 

es ekonomikis Senelebas gamoiwvevs. 

problemebis mTeli kaskadia, rac 

am galarebas ukavSirdeba, Tan Cveni 

jibidan, biujetidan vafinansebT 

mTeli am gadaxurdavebis 

process. es Tanxebi SeiZleboda, 

ukeTes raRacebs moxmareboda da 

ekonomika win wasuliyo da ara, 

ubralod, Sav ormoSi Cagveyara, 

imitom rom viRacebs davukonvertiroT. 

ki, larze moTxovnas 

gazrdian da moklevadian efeqts 

mogvcems. axlac vnaxeT, dastabilurdasaviT 

_ 2.65-2.70-is midamoeb- 

Sia, imitom rom 60 milionis Casxma 

daiwyo da larze moTxovna gaa- 

Cines. daastabiluresaviT, rom 

bunti ar yofiliyo. eseni fiqroben, 

rom Tu yvela gaalarebs sesxebs 

da dolari sayideli aRar 

eqneba, dolarze moTxovna Semcirdeba, 

laris kursze zewola Semsubuqdeba 

da devalvaciis procesi 

SeCerdeba. da romc gaiqces 

lari, Tu yvelas larSi eqneba sesxebi, 

kursis cvalebadoba, princip- 

Si, aRarc aravis aanerviulebs, 

mTavaria, fasebi ar gaiqces. jer 

erTi, yvela ar gaalarebs sesxebs 

da didi nawili dolarSi daitovebs 

da meorec, tyuilad hgoniaT, 

rom fasebi ar gaiqceva. eseni fiqroben, 

raki am bolo 2 weliwadSi 

ar iyo katastrofuli inflacia, 

momavalSic ase iqneba. Tumca inflacia 

iyo da sagrZobic, ubralod, 

katastrofuli inflacia imitom 

ar iyo, rom msyidvelunarianoba 

daeca, xalxi gaRaribda, ga- 

Ratakda. dolarSi arsebuli sesx- 

xdeba, an _ meore. rodesac ekonomika 

jansaRi ar gaqvs, ar izrdeba, 

investiciis Semodinebis magivrad 

rezervidan fuls yri da ase 

manipulaciebiT cdilob raRac 

awio, Cawio, gawio, rogorc ki investiciebs 

anacvleb aseTi instrumentebiT, 

aseTi meqanizmebi rogorc 

ki Semogyavs TamaSSi, egreve 

sadRac gagixeTqavs, gaasxams es 

auzi da wyali gava da daiRvreba. 

_ gafrenil kurss rom alag- 

alag raRac niSnulze aCerebdnen, 

es xdeboda savaluto rezervebis 

flangvis xarjze. kargad gvaxsovs 

mTeli is dapirispireba, rac iyo 

erovnul bankTan, qadagiZesTan. 

man savaluto rezervebi ar gaa- 

flangina, safuZvlianad asabuT- 

ebda, rom es iyo tyuili, amao garja, 

rom moitanda ramdenimedRi- 

an Sedegs da qveyanas azaralebda. 

qadagiZis wasvlisTanave misdgnen 

savaluto rezervebs. 

_ ar vici, ra davarqva amas, 

boroteba Tu mavnebloba?! faqti 

erTia, es uniaToba namdvilad 

araa, winasaarCevnod rom kursi 

SeenarCunebinaT, bolo erTi Tvis 

ganmavlobaSi erovnul banks 200 

milion dolaramde daaxarjines. 

_ qadagiZes, me mgoni, rac Tan- 

amdebobaze iyo, magdeni, jamSi, 

arc gauyidia. 

_ erovnuli banki damoukidebelia 

da zewolis gareSe unda iRebdes 

gadawyvetilebas, sakuTari 

codnidan da principebidan gamomdinare. 

magram moxda ise, rom qadagiZe 

rac wavida, Tavisi kaci daayenes. 

es adamiani mTavrobis zegavlenis 

qveS moeqca da xarja da xarja. 

rogorc ki arCevnebi damTavrda, 

Sewyvita xarjva da egreve gafrinda 

kursi. gvenetaZem es yvelaferi 

Zalian kargad icoda, ar 

cdilobda yvelafridan. araa 

saubari, im skamze ijdeba Tu ar 

ijdeba, arc TviTon ainteresebs, 

kidev erTxel vambob, imaze iyo 

saubari, rom partiasTan saerTod 

Sexeba ar hqonoda, mis mmarTvelobasTan 

da gadawyvetilebis miRebasTan, 

aqedan gamomdinare, arc 

saqarTvelosTan, magram mainc „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” aris da 

iqneba mTavari mebrZoli opoziciuri 

Zala da Cvens partiaSi aris 

xalxi, vinc, Tavis Tavze pasuxismgeblobas 

aiRebs da mosaxleobas 

gaWirvebaSi daudgeba. me ar 

davasaxeleb saxelebsa da gvarebs, 

dae, cxovrebam TviTon gamoaCinos 

liderebi. bevr maTgans qarizma 

arc aklia da dRes Tuki aseTi 

xalxi arsebobs saqarTveloSi, yvela 

Cvens partiaSia. sxva partiebSi 

aseT xalxs ver vxedav. rac Seexeba 

muxts sazogadoebaSi, arCevnebidan 

ramdenime TveSi arc unda elodo 

raRac gansakuTrebul muxts, muxti 

gaixarja arCevnebze. orTqli 

gamovida, xalxma is gadawyvetileba 

miiRo, rac miiRo, Tumca didi 

zewolebis, manipulaciebisa da 

gayalbebis fonze. 

_ me ar vambob, rom partiam 

xalxs unda uCxikinos, piriqiT, 

xalxSia es moTxovna. savaraudod, 

kidev ufro gaizrdeba gamwvave- 

bul socialur fonze da maSinac 

iyo, roca erTdRiani mitingebi 

imarTeboda. mainc, ra iyo is erT- 

dRiani, ramdenimesaaTiani mit- 

ingebi? mets ver qaCavdiT, Tu 

biZinas nervebs ufrTxilde- 

bodiT, rom ar gabrazebuliyo? 

_ ara, ara, biZos gabrazeba ar 

gvanaRvlebda, ubralod, vcdilobdiT, 

Cvendroindel opozicias 

ar davmsgavsebodiT, rom karvebi 

gagveSala da rusTavelze davsax- 

iyo da opoziciuri xma arsaidan 

ismoda, Tu ara mixeil saakaSvilisgan. 

gaixseneT sairmis quCis sasaxleebis 

fotoebi amxelda TargamaZes, 

sxva ministrebs. mas Semdeg, 

rac gadadga da instituciurad 

gaxda opozicioneri, mTeli 2 weli 

tyuilad ki ar daukargvs, _ erTi 

mxriv, midioda da yvela problemas 

adgilze ecnoboda, exmaureboda, 

xalxs gverdiT edga, maSin mSeneblobebis 

problemebi iyo, uSuqobis, 

korufciis, aTasi problema 

iyo. sofel-sofel moiara mTeli 

saqarTvelo. meore mxriv, roca 

sakrebulos Tavmjdomare gaxda, im 

mwiri TanxebiT saqmec anaxa xalxs. 

problemebis avangardSic iyo, 

xalxs gverdiT edga am problemebis 

gadaWraSi da saqmiani imijic 

Seiqmna, aseTi lideri bolo 4 welia, 

arc gvyolia. xalxis mxridan 

Zalian bevr raRacazea dakveTa, magram 

am dakveTebs sworad aravin 

gamoexmaura. ki, SeiZleba, axla 

gazicaa, denic, wyalic, magram ufro 

mwvaved dgas mSeneblobis, 

dasaqmebis problema, Cven Tvalwin 

xdeba saxelmwifo institutebis 

CamoSla, razec aranairi opoziciuri 

xma ar ismis. am problemebs win 

wamoweva da xalxis konsolidireba 

sWirdeba, rac mTeli es bolo 

wlebi ar xdeboda da axla partiam 

unda imuSaos da liderebic gamovkveToT 

am kuTxiT. sxvanairad 

warmoudgenelia, ase teqnikur 

mTavrobad aravin agirCevs arc aq 

da arc arsad. isev da isev, Sen 

unda gamoaCino sakuTari saxe, 

qarizma, miswrafebebi, politikuri 

neba, idealebi. ideis erTguleba 

Cveni mTavari RerZia, ris garSemoc 

darazmulia Cveni stabiluri 

eleqtorati, magram am stabiluri 

eleqtoratis garda, danarCen 

wvevebis winaSe idgeba Seni qveyana. 

ase rom, Sen unda moxvide xelisuflebaSi 

da es unda irwmunos 

xalxma, xalxma unda dainaxos Seni 

saxe, Seni programa unda iyos gam- 

Wvirvale maTTvis, Seni xelisufleba 

prognozirebadi unda iyos, 

zustad unda icodes, ras gaakeTeb, 

rac ivaniSvilis SemTxvevaSi ar 

moxda, imitom rom sul sxva 

molodinebi hqonda bevrs da veraferi 

miiRo, garda imisa, rom 

salaparakod darCaT, Tavisuflad 

vsunTqavTo da ras niSnavs es 

Tavisufali sunTqva, esec bolomde 

aravin icis. 

_ vadamdeli arCevnebis idea 

Tu ganixileba raime doziT raime 

doneze? amisi legitimuri safuZ- 

veli Tu ara, moraluri namd- 

viladaa, erTi mxriv, amomrCevlis 

didi nawili biZina ivaniSvilma 

moatyua, dasaqmebas dahpirdnen 

da arCevnebis mere maSinve Semcir- 

ebebi daiwyes, da, meore mxriv, 

naxevari milioni amomrCeveli 

motyuvda, xma misca mixeil saakaS- 

vils da aRmoCnda, rom mixeil 

saakaSvilis opoziciisTvis miu- 

cia xma, yvela motyuebulia _ „qocebic” 

motyuebuli arian da „na- 

cebic”. da viRasia es parlamenti? 

_ vfiqrob, TviTon amomrCevelma 

unda gadawyvitos, iqneba Tu ara 

vadamdeli arCevnebi. Tu amomrCeveli 

aqtiuri iqneba, xelisufleba 

iZulebuli gaxdeba da vadamdeli 

arCevnebi dainiSneba. magram 

axla jer adgilobrivi arCevnebia 

da amaze unda vkoncentrirdeT. 

adgilobriv arCevnebze maqismaluri 

Sedegi unda miviRoT, 

rom Cvens amomrCevels gamarjvebis 

rwmena davubrunoT. 


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zaqaria qucnaSvilis 

is Tavidanve moeqca yuradReb- 

nino tabaRua 

is centrSi, roca 2012 wels axalarCeuli 

parlamenti axali wevre- 

biT Seivso. yuradReba Tavisi varcxnilobis gamoc miiqcia. 

albaT, mixvdiT, viszea saubari: ganaTlebiT samarTalmcodne, 

advokati, erT-erTi sadazRvevo kompaniis generaluri direq- 

toris moadgile iyo samarTlebriv sakiTxebSi; muSaobda saq- 

arTvelos parlamentis aparatSi; iyo Tbilisis sakrebulos 

wevri; 1999 wlis mowvevis parlamentis wevri; 2005 wlidan 

dRemde aris asociacia „kanoni xalxisTvis” Tavmjdomare; 2007 

wlidan aris kavkasiis samarTlis skolis leqtori da saqarT- 

velos sapatriarqos iuridiuli samsaxuris xelmZRvaneli; 

2012 wels gaxda saqarTvelos parlamentis wevri TianeTis 

olqidan da fraqcia „qarTuli ocnebis” Tavmjdomare. 

misi ojaxis sakuTrebaSi 3 sacxovrebeli 

saxli, 8 miwis nakveTi 

da 3 arasacxovrebeli farTia. 

qonebrivi deklaraciis mixedviT, 

deputati 88.00 kv.m.-is sacxovrebel 

saxls flobs baTumSi 

gorgaslis quCaze, aseve, 89.00 

kv.m.-is arasacxovrebel farTs 

TbilisSi, saburTalos quCaze; 

miwis nakveTis 33%-iani wilis 

mflobelia TianeTis municipalitetis 

daba sionSi, romlis 

farTobic 941.00 kv.m.-ia (mewile 

16 

petre qitesaSvili); garda amisa, 

qucnaSvilis sakuTrebaSia miwis 

nakveTis 70%-iani wili TianeTSi, 

xevsurTsofelSi, romlis far- 

Tobic 602.00 kv.m.-ia; qucnaSvili 

amave teritoriaze flobs 345.92 

kv.m.-is arasacxovrebeli farTis 

70%-ian wils; 

aRniSnulis garda, deklaraciis 

mixedviT, zaqaria qucnaSvili 

flobs 135.00 kv.m.-is arasacxovrebeli 

farTis 100%-ian 

wils TianeTis raionis sofel zariZeebSi 

da amave sofelSi mdebare 

137.00 kv.m.-is farTobis miwis 

nakveTs; 

deputatis sakuTrebaSia msubuqi 

avtomanqana Toyota Land Cruzer 

Prado. msgavsi sakiTxebis CamoTvla 

bevrs arafers mogvcems, amitom 

uSualod misi komfortis 

zonis aRweraze gadaval. 

deklaraciaSi konkretuli 

sacxovrebeli zustad miTiTebuli 

ar aris, amitom amis gasagebad 

Jurnalisturi kontaqtebis gamoyeeba 

dagvWirda, sabolood ki 

davadgineT, rom sairmis goraze, 

iq, sadac, ZiriTadad, kerZo saxlebi 

amayadaa quCebze wamoWimuli, 

erT-erTi swored misia. 

romeli? _ amas adgilze misvla 

da dadgena sWirdeboda, amitom 

ianvris yinvian dRes mec daniSnulebis 

punqtisken gavemarTe, 

romelic iyo 

gora, saidanac Cveni 

gmiris saxli ipodromsa 

da 

naxevar Tbiliss 

gadahyurebda. 

imis gamo, rom fexiT didi xani 

dasWirdeboda iq asvlas, taqsiSi 

Cavjeqi, romelmac wina SemTxvevisgan 

gansxvavebiT (Tea wulukianis 

komfortis zonis aRwerisas 

taqsis SemTxveva), ar icoda, Tu 

konkretulad sad mdebareobda 

dRevandeli gmiris sacxovrebeli, 

amitom imis imedad, rom gza- 

Si vikiTxavdiT da ase davadgendiT 

mdebareobas, gzas gavudeqiT. 

taqsis mZRolma miTxra, goraze 

rom avalT, erT monakveTze 

bevri taqsi erTad dgas da romelime 

mZRols vkiTxavo, _ kargimeTqi 

da wavediT. maincdamainc am 

dRes ar dagvxvda is xsenebuli 

taqsebi TavianTi mZRolebiT Segulianebul 

adgilze, magram amas 

ar SevuSinebivarT da gza ganvagrZeT. 

sairmis goraze, skolas rom 

gascdebiT, erTi daRmarTi marjvniv, 

qalaqSi gagiyvanT, meore 

ki cota aRmarTia da kvlav kerZo 

saxlebisken gacilebT. Cvenc 

marcxniv wavediT da Cvenken momaval 

TeTri jipis saWesTan mjdom 

qalbatons vTxoveT, qucnaSvilis 

saxli mieswavlebina, manac 

gviTxra, _ gzas rom gaagrZelebT, 

memorialia, mis mopirdapired ki 

visac eZebT, imis saxlio. Cvenc 

wavediT. memoriali versad vnaxeT, 

erT monakveTze naZvis xeebi 

idga, Semdeg _ mSenebare da aSenebuli 

saxlebi, quCaSi aravin 

iyo, rom raime gvekiTxa, amitom 

ukan wamovediT, aq maRali Senoba 

SevniSneT, savaraudod, sastumro, 

an sacxovrebeli korpusi 

(ufro meore), am Senobis win ki 

dacvis kabina iyo, masTan mivedi: 

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var 

gazeT „qronika+”-dan, zaqaria 

qucnaSvilis komfortis zonaze 

vwer, xom ar iciT, romelia misi 

sacxovrebeli? 

_ rogor ar vici, ai, win gaagr- 

Zele gza da im naZvebSi rom memorialia, 

imis ukan dgas yviTeli 

saxli _ isaa. 

_ didi madloba. 

_ arafris. 

taqsi gavistumre da am saxlisken 

wavedi. swor da axal asfalts 

korpussa da naZvebs Soris moqceuli 

yviTeli saxlisken mivyavarT. 

memoriali naZvebs Soris 

aRmarTuli ramdenime jvari 

yofila, amis ukan ki yviTeli, 

samsarTuliani saxlia (ki gavifiqre, 

yviTeli kerZo saxlebi 

mTavrobis wevrebisTvis sakmaod 

aqtuluria-meTqi, magram amas vis 

vetyodi Tqven garda, hoda, ager 

geubnebiT). WiSkari maRali, Savi 

gisosebis msgavsi (oRond, ufro 

daxvewili ornamentebiT), cisken 

aSveril isars rom mogagonebT, 

iseTi iyo da Tavze mrgvali 

TeTri sanaTebi ekeTa. saxl- 

Tan arc kamerebi da arc sulieris 

WaWaneba ar SeminiSnavs, mxolod 

gareT idga Savi jipi. 

saxls fotoebi gadavuRe wina 

xediTac da zRurblzec, mere wamovedi. 

gzad isev im dacvas Sevuare. 

axla mainteresebda, Cvens 

gmirs Tu icnobda, ra Sexeba hqonda 

da rogori adamiani iyo zaqaria 

qucnaSvili Cveulebriv urTierTobaSi. 

_ gamarjoba, yvelaferi vnaxe 

da TqvenTan davbrundi, oriode 

kiTxva meqneba, Tu SeiZleba. 

_ zarze ar darekeT masTan? 

_ ara, uSualod masze mainteresebs 

Tqvengan, rogorc me- 

zoblisgan, rom miTxraT, xom 

SegiZliaT? 

_ ki batono, gismenT. 

_ rogori mezobelia? 

_ kargi mezobelia, kargi, 

salmiani, kargi ojaxi da „jigriani” 

xalxia. 

_ mSoblebic aq cxovroben, 

Tu mxolod meuRle da bavSvebi? 

_ diax, diax, mSoblebTan er- 

Tad. 

_ bavSvebi aq dadian skolaSi? 

Tu icnobT? 

_ ki, aq dadian, gverdiT rom 

skolaa iq. gogo-biWi hyavs. 

_ aq seirnoben xolme? sad 

naxulobT? 

_ TviTon manqaniT moZraobs 

da bavSvebi aqve, skolaSi rom dadian, 

gadadian xolme fexiT. 

_ anu piradad icnobT. 

_ ki, ki Zalian patiosani da pativsacemi 

ojaxia, pativiscemac 

ician ubanSic. 

_ ubanSic gamodis xolme Tvi- 

Ton? 

_ ki, rame rom iyos, gamodis 

xolme, mogesalmeba, dagelaparakeba. 

_ didi madloba. bednierad 

iyaviT. 

_ arafris, gaixareT. 

davemSvidobe da wamovedi. 

gzaSi erTi qalbatoni SevniSne, 

lurji bereti exura da amave 

feris sviteri ecva Savi paltos 

SigniT. aSkarad im quCisken hqonda 

gezi aRebuli, saidanac weRan 

me gamovedi. masac avuxseni, vin 

viyavi da ra mainteresebda. mipasuxa: 

_ aq cxovrobs, ki, vici, magram 

me stumrad var da ramdenjerac 

movsulvar, arasdros momikravs 

Tvali. 

_ kargi, gmadlobT. 

am qalbatons rom davSordi, 

iqve maRazia SevniSne, oRond Cveulebrivi 

sasursaTo _ ara, samkaulebi 

da tansacmeli iyideboda, 

Tan arc ise bevri produqcia ido 

da, ZiriTadad, xelnakeTi nivTebiT 

iyo savse magidebi. ara mgonia, 

Cveni statiis gmiri aq Semodiodes 

xolme, magram mainc Sevedi. 

oTaxis boloSi magidasTan 

erTi qalbatoni ijda, gamyidveli 

iyo, erTic sxva magidasTan 

idga da raRac xelnakeT samkaulebs 

aTvalierebda. 

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var 

16 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.


komfortis zona 

modioda, sadac weRan zaqarias 

saxli davtove da (qaluri logikiT 

amis wamebSi gafiqrebis Semdeg) 

qurTukian kacTan mivedi: 

_ gamarjoba, bodiSi, saubars 

rom gawyvetinebT, Jurnalisti 

var, ubralod, mainteresebs, ba- 

ton zaqarias Tu icnobT? 

_ vin zaqarias? 

_ qucnaSvils. 

_ Soridan ki. 

_ anu aq cxovrobT Tqvenc da 

nanaxi gyavT? 

_ ki, am ubneli var mec, am skolaSi 

davdiodi da zaqariac aq 

gaizarda, rogorc vici. 

_ aq xedavdiT xolme Tqven? 

_ adre ki vxedavdi xolme da 

axla iSviaTad. 


_ arafris, kargad. 

skolasTan mivedi, iqneb, zaqarias 

bavSvebis maswavlebeli gamosuliyo 

da eTqva, rogoria rogorc 

mama, akiTxavs Tu ara Tavis 

bavSvebs skolis mere, an raime msgavsi. 

am dros skolis Senobidan 

Sua xnis qalbatoni gamovida. 

WaRara Tma hqonda, kremisferi 

palto ecva da Tavze mxedvelobis 

saTvale ekeTa, Tan gverdiT 

patara gogona mohyveboda, etyoboda, 

Svili iyo, am gogonas vardisferi 

CanTa ki dedamiss eWira. 

erTi dabali, koxtad Cacmuli 

mamakaci SevniSne, etyoboda, rom 

bavSvi gamoiyvana skolidan da 

axla manqanaSi svamda biWunas. Tan 

skolis ambebs ekiTxeboda da es 

patara ki TavgamodebiT icavda 

Tavis pozicias manqanaSi win 

jdomasTan dakavSirebiT. 

am mamakacsac imave kiTxviT 

mivmarTe, oRond jer avuxseni, 

vin viyavi. 

_ ukacravad, zaqaria qucnaS- 

vils Tu icnobT? 

_ ara, namdvilad ara. 

_ aq mainc ar ginaxavT? Tvali 

ar mogikravT? 

_ ara, arasdros, aq Tu cxovrobda, 

isic ar vicodi. 

_ gmadlobT. 

skolis kideze gaCerebuli 

taqsi SevniSne, vifiqre, SesaZlo 

iyo, rom scodnoda is, rac me 

mainteresebda da mivedi. 

_ gamarjoba, Cveni mTavrobis 

deputats, zaqaria qucnaSvils 

Tu icnobT? 

_ piradad ar vicnob. 

_ ise, aq ginaxavT? 

_ ara, ratom unda vnaxo? 

_ aq cxovrobs da imitom. 

_ ara, namdvilad ar minaxavs. 

_ gasagebia, gmadlobT, kar- 

gad iyaviT. 

_ kargad. 

gazeT „qronika+”-dan, zaqaria 

qucnaSvilis komfortis zonaze 

vwer, mainteresebs, rogori adamiania 

Cveulebriv urTierTo- 

baSi? 

_ vici, magram ar minaxavs. 

_ zaqaria qucnaSvili am korpusSi 

cxovrobs? _ CaerTo dialogSi 

is qalbatoni, weRan rom 

samkaulebs arCevda, kargi, ar 

gadamrio (ise gaikvirva, cota xelovnuradac 

ki meCvena). 

_ ho, ager, ukan quCaze cxovrobs, 

oRond, kerZo saxlSi, 

korpusSi _ ara, _ Cem magivrad 

upasuxa gamyidvelma. 

_ anu TqvenTan ar Semodis 

xolme? _ CaverTe saubarSi mec 

da am gamyidvels mivmarTe. 

_ ara, aq ar Semodis, Torem 

aseT maRaziaSi rom Semovides, 

kargia, cotas ivaWrebda mainc. 

_ meuRle mainc ar Semodis 

xolme, TviTon Tu ara? 

_ ar vici, ai, ar Semodis egeTi 

mdidari xalxi aseT maRaziaSi da 

ra ginda, qna? 

_ didi madloba, warmateba 

Tqvens maRazias-meTqi, _ vu- 

surve da kari gavaRe, rom gareT 

gamovsuliyavi da am dros Sua 

xnis qali Semovida. vifiqre, 

iqneb, man icodes deputatis Sesaxeb-meTqi 

da vkiTxe: 

_ ukacravad, baton zaqaria 

qucnaSvils xom ar icnobT? 

_ ara, ar vici. me aq ar vcxovrob, 

me aq vmuSaob. 


maRaziidan gamovedi da mis 

gverdiT farTi davinaxe, didi 

asoebiT ewera: „marketi”, magram, 

jer kidev, aremontebdnen da SigniT 

aravin Canda, amitom skolisken 

gavagrZele gza. 

Cemken axalgazrda qali modioda, 

gavaCere: 

_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var. 

zaqaria qucnaSvilze mainteresebs, 

aq cxovrobs da xom ar ic- 

nobT? 

_ bavSvTan magviandeba, ara, ar 

vici, ar vicnob. 

_ kargi, gmadlobT, _ vuTxari 

da gza gavagrZele. rogorc ki 

Camiara, aSkarad gavigone, rom 

TavisTvis Cailaparaka: „arafers 

ar vityvi”. magram araferi miTqvams, 

gza gavagrZele. 

axlos skola iyo, yvela ambobda, 

rom bavSvTan midioda da eCqareboda, 

magram kiTxvaze ramdenad 

gulwrfelad mpasuxobdnen, 

ukve aRar vicodi, radgan roca 

veubnebodi, rom Jurnalisti viyavi, 

yvela gaurboda pasuxs, Tumca 

me mainc mkacrad vicavdi Jurnalistur 

eTikas da yvelas vafr- 

Txilebdi, vinc viyavi, saidan da 

ratom vekiTxebodi rames. mxolod 

is mainteresebda, Tu rogori 

adamiani da mezobeli iyo Cveni 

deputati, sul es iyo. 

skolisken Sav tyavis qurTuksa 

da Sav SarvalSi gamowyobili 

mamakaci modioda, marjvena xeliT 

mobiluri eWira da viRacas- 

Tan darekvas cdilobda, aSkarad 

etyoboda, rom ar laparakobda. 

yurTan midebul xelze aSkarad 

SesamCnevi iyo didi oqros saqorwino 

beWedi, romelic araTiTze 

ekeTa. vifiqre, radgan daojaxebulia 

da skolisken modis, albaT, 

bavSvi hyavs aq da Tu bavSvi 

am skolaSi hyavs, ese igi, sadRac 

axlos cxovrobs, Tan im mxridan 


_ gamarjoba, gazeT „qroni- 

ka+”-s warmovadgen, oriode 

kiTxva meqneba baton zaqaria 

qucnaSvilze, Tu icnobT? 

_ baton zaqarias televizoridan 

da Tavisi moRvaweobidan vicnobT. 

_ bavSvebi aq, am skolaSi dadian, 

Tvali ar mogikravT mis- 

Tvis? 

_ mxolod televizoridan vici 

Cveni deputati da bavSvebi ar 

vici, me aq ar minaxavs, magram vici, 

rom dedamisi cxovrobs aq, kerZo 

saxlebi rom aris gverdiT quCaze. 

_ gmadlobT. 

_ arafris. 

ukve skolasTan aravin iyo, amitom 

ukan gamovbrundi, gzad 

amave taqsis mZRols vuTxari, 

centralur gzaze gasasvleli 

eswavlebina, rom am goridan 

swrafad davSvebuliyavi. manac im 

gzisken mimiTiTa, statiis dasawyisSi 

rom vaxsene, _ ori gza iyofa, 

erTi marcxniv, qucnaSvilis 

saxlisken, meore ki marjvniv _ 

qalaqisken-meTqi. 

mec marjvniv wavedi, zaqarias 

yviTeli, goraze aRmarTuli saxli 

ukan movitove. 

misi komfortis zona ar damirRvevia, 

ise ki gavige sad, visTan 

da rogor cxovrobs. es mxolod 

imisTvis, rom dRes „qronika+”-is 

mkiTxvels tradiciuli rubrika 

tradiciulad gazeTSi daxvedroda. 

17


qamrebis moWeris politika 

samoqalaqo platforma „axali 

giorgi mefariZe 

saqarTvelo” da a/o monitoringis 

centri „mediatori” agrZeleben 

sxvadasxva saxelmwifo uwyebasa Tu dawesebulebaSi arsebuli 

mdgomareobis, maT Soris, gaweuli xarjebis Seswavlas. am procesSi 

bevri legitimuri kiTxva warmoiSoba, razedac Sesabam- 

isi pasuxebi kompetenturma organoebma unda gascen. 

„qronika+” 

organizaciebis 

bolo kvlevebis saintereso Sede- 

gebs gTavazobT. 

mariam qelbaqiani _ monitoringis 

centr „mediatoris” warmo- 

madgeneli: 

_ jandacvisa da finansTa saministroebSi 

mxolod dekemberSi 

gacemuli premia-danamati, jamurad, 

822 aTas lars aWarbebs. 

saqarTvelos finansTa saministroSi, 

231 556 laris premia, xolo 

182 748 laris danamati gaica. saer- 

To jamSi, uwyebaSi premia-danamatis 

raodenobam 414 304 lari Seadgina. 

saqarTvelos jandacvis saministroSi 

312 450 laris premia, xolo 

95 698 laris danamati gaica. saer- 

To jamSi, uwyebaSi premia-danamatis 


saqarTvelos energetikis saministroSi 

mxolod dekemberSi Sromis 

anazRaurebam 264 040 lari 

Seadgina. uwyebaSi 88 840 laris 

premia gaica, xolo danamati _ 72 

661 laris. premia- danamatis jamma 

sul 161 501 lari Seadgina. 

kaxa kalaZis samma moadgilem: 

marina valiSvilma, ilia eloSvilma 

da irakli xmalaZem, saaxalwlod, 

jamurad, 24 660 lari miiRes, 

saidanac danamati 16 500 

laria. es im fonze, rodesac maT, 

faqtobrivad, „gazpromTan” molaparakeba 

Caagdes da xelSekruleba 

miiRes, romelmac daaziana qveynis 

energoseqtori, ekonomika da interesebi. 

saqarTvelos infrastruqturis 

saministroSi mxolod dekember- 

Si 149 430 laris premia, xolo 61 

210 laris danamati gaica. saerTo 

jamSi, uwyebaSi premia-danamatis 

mariam qelbaqiani 


aRsaniSnavia, rom dekemberSi 

gacemuli danamati, ZiriTadad, 

maRali Tanamdebobis pirebze modis. 

magaliTad, 61 210 laridan 

ministrs, mis moadgileebs, sammarTvelos 

ufrosebs, departamentis 

ufrosebs da maT moadgileebs 

aRebuli aqvT 56 535 lari da mxolod 

4675 laria gadanawilebuli 

danarCen TanamSromlebze. 

am adamianebs aranairi infrastruqturuli 

proeqtebi ar ganuxorcielebiaT, 

miT umetes, dekemberSi 

da ris safuZvelZe aiRes 

premia-danamati, CvenTvis gaugebaria. 

eWvi gvaqvs, ministrma maRali 

Tanamdebobis pirebs winasaaxalwlod 

saCuqris saxiT dauriga 

es premia-danamati. 

Cveni kvlevis Tanaxmad, dekemberSi 

premia-danamatis saxiT 

mxolod 5 saministroSi gacemulia 

1 400 333 lari. es saministroebia: 

ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis saministro, 

garemosa da bunebrivi 

resursebis dacvis saministro, 

kulturisa da ZeglTa dacvis 

saministro, gansaxlebisa da 

ltolvilTa saministro da soflis 

meurneobis saministro. 

aqve gTavazobT detalur informacias 

xuTi saministros 

Sesaxeb: 

garemosa da bunebrivi resursebis 

dacvis saministro 

premia: 186 780 

danamati: 88 820 

premia-danamati: 275 600; 

gansaxlebisa da ltolvilTa 

saministro 

premia: 359 574 



daviT narmanias sarestorno 

xarji 513 318 lari?! 

soflis meurneobis saministro 

premia: 188 865 



kulturisa da ZeglTa dacvis 

saministro 

premia: 220 740 



ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis 

saministro 

premia: 68 244 


`monitoringis centr 

`mediatoris~ kvlevis 

Tanaxmad, 9 Tvis 

ganmavlobaSi premia- 

danamatis saxiT mxolod 7 

saministroSi gacemulia 52 

257 845 lari. es 

saministroebi aris: 

energetikis saministro, 

soflis meurneobis 

saministro, ganaTlebis 

saministro, 

infrastruqturis 

saministro, jandacvis 

saministro, Sinagan 

saqmeTa saministro da 

diasporis saministro. 

Svid saministroSi 

samivlinebo da 

warmomadgenlobiTma 

xarjma Seadgina 

5 113 327 lari~ 

premia-danamati: 110 081 

aqve minda aRvniSno, rom ganaTlebis 

saministroSi premia-danamati 

110 081 lari mxolod maRali 

Tanamdebobis pirebzea gacemuli. 

mTliani odenoba uwyebaSi 

gacemuli premia-danamatis Sesaxeb 

maT ukanasknel wlebSi ar mouwodebiaT. 

kvlevebidan Cans, rom ar 

arsebobs premia-danamatebis gacemis 

Sesaxeb regulaciebi. miuxedavad 

mTavrobis deklarirebuli 

qamrebis SemoWeris politikisa, es 

kvleva cxadyofs, rom bolo ar 

uCans Cinovnikebis madas da miuxedavad 

qveyanaSi Seqmnili umZimesi 

ekonomikuri mdgomareobisa, Tanamdebobis 

pirebi ar ikleben premiadanamatebs. 

monitoringis centr „mediatoris” 

kvlevis Tanaxmad, 9 Tvis ganmavlobaSi 

premia-danamatis saxiT 

mxolod 7 saministroSi gacemulia 

52 257 845 lari. es saministroebi 

aris: energetikis saministro, soflis 

meurneobis saministro, ganaTlebis 

saministro, infrastruqturis 

saministro, jandacvis 

saministro, Sinagan saqmeTa saministro 

da diasporis saministro. 

Svid saministroSi samivlinebo da 

warmomadgenlobiTma xarjma Seadgina 

5 113 327 lari. 

Cveni arasamTavrobo organizacia 

iniciativiT gamodis, romelsac 

uaxloes momavalSi saqarTvelos 

parlamentSi warvadgenT. am 

mimarTulebiT sakanonmdeblo doneze 

Canaweri unda gakeTdes da uapelaciod 

da umizezod premiadanamatis 

gamowera, rogorc sabiujeto 

saxsrebis aramiznobrivi 

xarjva, kanoniT isjebodes. 

miuxedavad imisa, rom iniciativa 

xistia, bolo periodma gvanaxa, 

rom sxva gamosavali, ubralod, ar 

gvaqvs. miuxedavad arasamTavrobo 

organizaciebis kvlevebisa, auditis 

samsaxuris daskvnebisa, miuxedavad 


poziciisa, faqtia _ am mimarTulebiT 

qmediTi nabijebi ar idgmeba. 

sxva araferi dagvrCenia garda 

xisti sakanonmdeblo iniciativisa, 

romelic uzrunvelyofs sakanonmdeblo 

doneze premia-danamatebis 

gacemas. aqve gTavazobT detalur 

informacias Svidive saministros 

Sesaxeb. 

energetikis saministro 

premia: 116 250 



samivlinebo da warmomadgen- 

lobiTi xarji: 147 554; 

infrastruqturis saministro 

premia: 503 120 


premia-danamati: 1 101 433 



jandacvis saministro 

premia: 819 705 





soflis meurneobis saministro 

premia: - 

danamati: - 

premia-danamati: - 



diasporis saministro 

premia: 199 658 





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18 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.


da saministros premiebi 

Sinagan saqmeTa saministro 

premia: 4 624 486 

danamati: 42 421 861 



lobiTi xarji: 4 067 232; 

ganaTlebis saministro 

221-Statian TanamSromelze 

premia: 1 058 220 



samivlinebo da warmomadgenlobiTi 

xarji: 

120-uStato TanamSromeli 

xelfasi: 1 297 342 

premia: 463 514 

amasTan, gasuli wlis 11 TveSi 

22 ssip-Si premia-danamatis saxiT 

gacemulia 34.608.088 lari, saidanac 

18.446.121 danamatia, xolo 

16.161.967 lari _ premia. magali- 

Tad, finansTa saministros sam 

ssip-Si 2016 wlis ianvridan noembris 

CaTvliT Sromis anazRaurebis 

muxlidan jamurad gacemulia 

6.966.595 lari. ufro konkretulad: 

finansTa saministros momsaxurebis 

saagento _ 3.086.103 lari, 

safinanso-analitikuri samsaxuri 

_ 3.451.180 lari, finansTa saministros 

akademia _ 429.312 lari. 

rac Seexeba kidev erT ssip-s, 

Semosavlebis samsaxurs, 2016 wlis 

ianvridan noembris CaTvliT, mxolod 

premia-danamatis saxiT jamurad 

gacemulia 26.176.960 lari, 

saidanac 13.560.125 lari danamati, 

xolo 12.616.835 lari _ premiaa. 

rac Seexeba sargos, 11 TveSi xelfasis 

saxiT 38.240.743 lari gaica. 

garemos dacvis saministroSi 

eqvs ssip-Si 11 TveSi premia-danamatis 

saxiT gacemulia 3.635.650 

lari, saidanac danamati Seadgens 

3.193.651, xolo premia _ 441.999 

lars. rogorc sajaro informaciidan 

irkveva, premia-danamatis jamuri 

Tanxis 85% danamatia, rac 

niSnavs, rom ZiriTadi sargebeli 

miiRes Tanamdebobis pirebma, radgan 

rigiTi TanamSromlebi danamats 

ar iReben. premia-danamatis garda 

2016 wlis 11 TveSi saministros 

eqvs ssip-Si gacemulia 

15.383.880 laris xelfasi. 

energetikis saministros ssip 

„navTobisa da gazis saxelmwifo 

saagentoSi” 2016 wlis ianvridan 

noembris CaTvliT Tanamdebobis 

pirebze premia-danamatis saxiT 

gacemulia 30.720 lari. rac Seexeba 

xelfass, wlis am periodSi saxelmwifo 

saagentoSi kidev 452.040 

lari aiRes. 

Cven aseve gamoviTxoveT informacia 

regionuli ganviTarebisa da 

infrastruqturis saministrosgan 

da aRmoCnda, rom am uwyebis eqvs 

ssip-Si gacemulia 2.877.662 laris 

premia-danamati, saidanac danamati 

Seadgens 1.661.624 lars, xolo premia 

_ 1.216.038 lars (samwuxarod, 

saministros erT-erTma ssip-ma, 

„saqarTvelos gaerTianebulma wyalmomaragebis 

kompaniam”, ar mogvawoda 

detaluri informacia da 

mxolod premia-danamatebis jamuri 

Tanxa gvacnoba _ 1.353.812 lari). 

aqedan mxolod oTxi ssip-is xelfasma 

11 TveSi 26.604.201 lari 

Seadgina. saministros ssip-ebma 

arc uStato TanamSromlebisTvis 

daiSures Tanxa da 11 TveSi xelfasis 

saxiT 662.136 lari gasces, xolo 

premiad _ 711.711 lari. 

sportisa da axalgazrdobis 

saqmeTa saministros xuT ssip-Si 

gacemulia 1.175.384 laris premiadanamati 

(aqedan 1.100 lari aris 

danamati, xolo premia _ 1.174.284 

lari). xuT ssip-Si xelfasma 

2.531.587 lari Seadgina. StatgareSe 

TanamSromlebze aqac gaica 

xelfasi 344.949 laris odenobiT. 

zemoT moyvanili monacemebi 

metyvelebs, rom qveyanaSi arsebuli 

finansuri Tu ekonomikuri krizisis 

miuxedavad, saministros 

ssip-ebSi dasaqmebul maRali Tanamdebobis 

pirebs namdvilad ar 

uWirT. amitomac aris saWiro gam- 

Wvirvaloba sabiujeto saxsrebis 

gankargvisas. garda premia-danamatebis 

gacemis mavnebluri praqtikisa, 

zogi saministros funqciebi 

aRreulia missave dafuZnebul 

ssip-ebTan. 

ra saWiroa imave funqcia-movaleobebiT 

datvirTuli ssip-i, 

Tuki saministro da mas daqvemdebarebuli 

sammarTvelo Tu ganyofileba 

am funqcias isedac asrulebs? 

magaliTad, ganaTlebis saministros 

damatebiT Seqmnili aqvs 

ori ssip-i: „ganaTlebis xarisxis 

erovnuli centri” da „maswavlebelTa 

profesiuli ganviTarebis 

erovnuli centri”, romlebzec 

dakisrebuli funqciebi Tavisuflad 

SeiZleba Seasrulos erTma 

organizaciam. Tu gavixsenebT 2016 

wlis ianvarSi gamarTul pedagog- 

Ta saatestacio gamocdebis Sedegebs, 

sadac gamocdaze gasuli 6 

477 praqtikosi pedagogisgan 60%- 

iani barieri mxolod 1101-ma gadalaxa, 

am ssip-ebis efeqtianoba safuZvlian 

eWvs badebs. migvaCnia, 

rom es sistemuri problemaa da 


`gamoikveTa, rom rig SemTxvevaSi 

saministro afinansebs iseT 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebs, romlis 

damfuZneblebic arian "qarTuli 

ocnebis" aqtivistebi da maTi politikis 

"gampraveblebi". magaliTad: mixeil 

dondua, romlis arasamTavrobosac 

(saqarTvelos menejerTa asociacia) 16 

122 laris Tanxa aqvs miRebuli. aseve 

SegviZlia dokumenturad warmogidginoT 

aTeulobiT adamiani, romelic 

sxvadasxva sainformacio saSualebis 

meSveobiT gamalebiT icavs "qarTuli 

ocnebis" xelisuflebis poziciebs. zemoT 

CamoTvlili problemidan gamomdinare, 

sagamoZiebo uwyebebs movuwodebT, 

aRniSnuli faqtebiT dainteresdnen da 

fondis mier gacemuli TiToeuli laris 

miznobrioba Seiswavlon da gamoiZion~ 

misi mogvarebisTvis gadasadgmelia 

qmediTi nabijebi. 

Tavis mxriv, monitoringis cen- 

tr „mediatoris” Tavmjdomaris 

moadgile, dimitri biZinaSvili, 

axal kvlevas asajaroebs, romel- 

ic daviT narmanias sarestorno 

xarjebs exeba: 

_ 2016 wlis ivnisidan dRemde 

Tbilisis meriis sarestorno da 

sastumros momsaxurebis xarjma 

naxevar milion lars gadaaWarba 

da Seadgina 513 318 lari. im problemebis 

fonze, rac dRes dedaqalaqs 

awuxebs, warmoudgenlad mimaCnia 

asiaTasobiT laris xarjva 

restornebSi. 

magaliTisTvis, dedaqalaqSi 

aseTi problemebia: 

1. sacobebis problema, romelic 

aqilevsis quslad gadaiqca; 

2. avariuli Senobebis problema, 

romelic dRes 10 aTasze metia 

dedaqalaqSi; 

3. ganaTlebis problema da 

skolamdelaRsazrdeli pedagogebis 

problema; 

4. infrastruqturis problema; 

5. umuSevrobis problema. 

mxolod TbilisSi, 2015 welTan 

SedarebiT, 25 994 aTasiT gaizarda 

socialurad daucveli adamianebis 

raodenoba da, saerTo jam- 

Si, dRes dedaqalaqSi Semweobas 

iRebs 94 939 adamiani. TiToeuli 

kvleva miuTiTebs, rom daviT narmania 

aris yvelaze susti meri, romelic 

Tbiliss hyolia. misi merobis 

dros warmoudgenlad gaizarda 

socialurad daucveli adamianebis 

raodenoba, dedaqalaqSi 

Seiqmna sruli infrastruqturuli 

kolafsi, aseve yovelwliurad 

`TiToeuli kvleva miuTiTebs, rom daviT 

narmania aris yvelaze susti meri, romelic 

Tbiliss hyolia. misi merobis dros 

warmoudgenlad gaizarda socialurad 

daucveli adamianebis raodenoba, dedaqalaqSi 

Seiqmna sruli infrastruqturuli kolafsi, 

aseve yovelwliurad izrdeba administraciuli 

xarjebi. CvenTvis ukve gasagebi gaxda, ratom 

gadaamzades "rCeuli TanamSromlebi", Tu 

rogor unda moiqcnen restoranSi... didi 

albaTobiT, naxevari milionis sarestorno 

xarjic ar eyoT maT, qcevis wesebi eswavlaT~ 

levan xabeiSvili 

izrdeba administraciuli xarjebi. 

CvenTvis ukve gasagebi gaxda, 

ratom gadaamzades „rCeuli Tanam- 

Sromlebi”, Tu rogor unda moiqcnen 

restoranSi... didi albaTobiT, 

naxevari milionis sarestorno 

xarjic ar eyoT maT, qcevis wesebi 

eswavlaT. 

aseve, 2016 wlis ivnisidan, 2016 

wlis noembris CaTvliT, ekonomikis 

saministros sarestorno da 

gasarTobma xarjebma 379 523 lari 

Seadgina. im fonze, rodesac, faqtobrivad, 

qveynis ekonomika CamoiSala, 

warmoudgenelia amxela 

Tanxebis xarjva pirad fufunebaze. 

maSin, rodesac laris mdgomareoba 

dRiTi dRe uaresdeboda, dimitri 

qumsiSvili zrdida restornis, 

sasmelisa da sastumros xarjebs. 

kvlevebidan Cans, rom miuxedavad 


qamrebis SemoWeris politikisa da 

qveyanaSi Seqmnili umZimesi ekonomikuri 

mdgomareobisa, ekonomikis 

saministro pirad fufuneba- 

Si xarjavs 379 523 lars. 


saqarTvelo” da monitoringis centri 

„mediatori” kidev erTi kvlevis 

Sedegebs asajaroebs. 

dimitri biZinaSvili _ „media- 

toris” Tavmjdomaris moadgile: 

dimitri biZinaSvili 

_ kvleva sportis saministros, 

bavSvTa da axalgazrdobis ganvi- 

Tarebis fonds exeba. monitoringis 

Tanaxmad gamoirkva, rom 2015 

wels sportisa da axalgazrdobis 

saministros fondma 777 aTasi lari 

gasca. 2016 wels, anu saarCevno 

periodSi 9 Tvis ganmavlobaSi 

gacemulia 1 049 965 lari. wlebis 

Sedarebac cxadyofs, rom, savaraudod, 

saarCevno wels moxda Tanxebis 

damateba fondisTvis, romlis 

muSaobis gamWvirvalobaze seriozuli 

kiTxvis niSnebi ikveTeba. 

kvlevis dros aRmoCnda, rom 

fondi Tanxebs gascems arasamTavrobo 

organizaciebze, romlis damfuZneblebic 

paralelurad arian 

sajaro moxeleebi da rig SemTxvevaSi 

Tanamdebobis pirebic. magaliTad: 

Temo dondua, romelic 

gaxlavT sportisa da axalgazrdobis 

saqmeTa saministros, axalgazrdobis 

politikis marTvis departamentis 

sammarTvelos ufrosi. 

misma arasamTavrobo organizaciam 

(saqarTvelos axalgazrdul 

organizaciaTa nacionaluri sab- 

Wo) saministros fondidan miiRo 

22 250 lari. aseve gogi Ciqovani, 

romelic Tbilisis meriaSi ganaTlebis 

samsaxuris ganyofilebis 

ufrosia. misma arasamTavrobo 

organizaciam (axalgazrduli iniciativebisa 

da samoqalaqo ganvi- 

Tarebis akademiuri centri) fondidan 

miiRo 21 945 lari. 

am konkretul SemTxvevebSi, SesaZloa, 

saqme gvqondes interesTa 

kofliqtTan, an Tanamdebobis uflebamosilebis 

borotad gamoyenebasTan, 

rac, SesaZloa, arasamTavrobos 

da proeqtis lobireba- 

Si gamoixata. 


saqarTvelos” lideri, levan xa- 

beiSvili, sxva riskebzec saub- 

robs: 

_ gamoikveTa, rom rig SemTxvevaSi 

saministro afinansebs iseT 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebs, romlis 

damfuZneblebic arian „qar- 

Tuli ocnebis” aqtivistebi da ma- 

Ti politikis „gampraveblebi”. magaliTad: 

mixeil dondua, romlis 

arasamTavrobosac (saqarTvelos 

menejerTa asociacia) 16 122 laris 

Tanxa aqvs miRebuli. aseve Segvi- 

Zlia dokumenturad warmogidginoT 

aTeulobiT adamiani, romelic 

sxvadasxva sainformacio saSualebis 

meSveobiT gamalebiT icavs 

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisuflebis 

poziciebs. zemoT CamoTvlili 

problemidan gamomdinare, sagamo- 

Ziebo uwyebebs movuwodebT, aRniSnuli 

faqtebiT dainteresdnen da 

fondis mier gacemuli TiToeuli 

laris miznobrioba Seiswavlon da 

gamoiZion. 

`mediatoris" kvlevis SedegebTan 

dakavSirebiT `qronika+~-ma sxvadasxva 

saministrosa da dedaqalaqis 

meriis sazogadoebasTan 

urTierTobis samsaxurebs mimarTa. 

jerjerobiT, pasuxi energetikis 

saministrosgan miviReT: 

`Tqvens kiTxvaze pasuxad 

gacnobebT, rom 

saqarTvelos energetikis 

saministroSi xelfasebis, 

premiebisa da 

danamatebis gacema 

saqarTveloSi moqmedi 

kanonmdeblobis 

Sesabamisad xorcieldeba~. 

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sapatrulo policiis yofilma 

TanamSromelma, daviT berikaSvilma, romelic, sakuTar ojaxTan 

erTad, samarTaldamcvelebis usamarTlo devnis obieqti gaxda, 

saqarTveloSi samarTali ver ipova da politikuri TavSesafari 

germaniaSi miiRo. policiis maiori „qronika+”-s uyveba, rom am 

danaSaulis ukan yofili Ss ministri, aleqsandre WikaiZe dgas. 

misive TqmiT, 2012 wlis arCevnebis Semdeg Sinagan saqmeTa samin- 

istros maRal Tanamdebobebze SemTxveviTi xalxi aRmoCnda, 

romelTa ganaTleba da kvalifikacia ar Seefereba maT mier 

dakavebul Tanamdebobebs da Sesabamisad, ukanonobebi xdeba. 

„qronika+”-s esaubreba daviT 

berikaSvili: 

_ saqarTvelos datovebamde Ss 

saministroSi vmsaxurobdi, policiis 

maiori var, bolo 10 wlis 

ganmavlobaSi qalaq Tbilisis sapatrulo 

policiaSi vmuSaobdi, 

faqtobrivad, Seqmnis dRidan. zogadad, 

policiaSi muSaobis 18 

wlis staJi maqvs. cxovreba Cveulebrivi 

ritmiT grZeldeboda, 

myavs ori Svili, velodebodiT mesames, 

Cemi meuRle 7 Tvis fexmZime 

gaxldaT. 2015 wlis 9 ianvars, erT 

Cveulebriv dRes, samsaxuridan 

saxlSi Rame davbrundi. daaxloebiT 

Ramis 01:30 saaTze piradi xelmZRvaneli, 

ocmeTauri mirekavs, 

romelic informacias mawvdis, 

rom gangaSia da samsaxurSi formiT 

unda gamovcxadde. 18-19-wliani 

staJis policielisTvis es Cveulebrivi 

movlenaa da ar gamkvirvebia. 

movemzade da roca gamovedi, 

sadarbazosTan, daaxloebiT, 

20-mde samoqalaqo formaSi Cacmuli 

adamiani damxvda, romlebic 

sruliad moulodnelad Tavs 

damesxnen. es iyo Tavdasxma organizebuli 

da Casafrebuli poziciidan. 

ra Tqma unda, amdeni adamianis 

winaSe uZluri viyavi da 

winaaRmdegobis gawevis dros, sanam 

gaverkvevodi, ra xdeboda, erTerTma 

Tqva, rom policiidan iyvnen 

da kiTxvebi hqondaT. borkilebi 

damades. mizezs rom vkiTxulobdi, 

ar mpasuxobdnen. Cems maSindel 

mdgomareobas vafaseb, rogorc gatacebas. 

vazisubnis policiis ganyofilebaSi 

mimiyvanes, sadac imyofeboda 

rogorc sapatrulo, 

aseve Tbilisis kriminaluri policiis 

xelmZRvaneloba. maSindeli 

Ss ministris, aleqsandre WikaiZis 

gundi iyo, romelmac damakava da 

gamitaca, isini maSin Tbilisis kriminalur 

policias akontrolebdnen. 

grigol beselia, romelic 

qalaqis kriminaluri policiis 

ufrosis pirveli moadgile iyo, 

faqtobrivad, situacias ganagebda 

da organizebas axdenda, brZanebebs 

iZleoda, kiTxvebs svamda. konkretulad 

igi araadamianurad mepyroboda 

da damamcirebel mdgomareobaSi 

mayenebda. 

20 


_ policiaSi dakavebis mizezad 

ra daasaxeles? 

_ misvlisas sruliad absurdul 

da gaugebar situaciaSi aRmovCndi, 

Cemgan garkveuli tipis 

danaSaulze aRiarebas moiTxovdnen, 

romelic wina dRiT iyo Cadenili 

da, mogvianebiT, ukve sakuTar 

Tavze aRebas. 

_ ra tipis danaSaulze iyo 

saubari? 

_ yuradRebas amaxvilebdnen Cxubze, 

fizikur Seuracxyofaze adamianTan, 

romlis arsebobac uSualod 

policiis ganyofilebaSi gavige. 

Cemi dakavebidan gasulia, daaxloebiT, 

10-12 saaTi (sul dakavebuli 

viyavi 15 sT-is ganmavloba- 

Si), SuadRis 12:00 saaTia da meore 

kabinetidan SemTxveviT mesmis xma: 

„kurierSi” acxadeben, rom dakavebulia 

sapatrulo policiis TanamSromeli, 

romelmac mkvleloba 

aRiara. es warmoudgeneli iyo, ramac 

Cemi aRSfoTeba gamoiwvia, kategoriulad 

moviTxove, rom situaciaSi 

gavrkveuliyavi! kriminaluri 

policiis rgolSi masobrivi 

dabneuloba SeiniSneboda da, faqtobrivad, 

ar arsebobda adamiani, 

romelic pasuxs gamcemda. Cemi 

kategoriuli moTxovnis Semdeg 

erT-erTi xelmZRvaneli, Tu ar 

vcdebi, vazisubnis ganyofilebis 

ufrosis moadgile ganmartavs, 

rom, maqsimum, erT saaTSi gamiSveben, 

rom es iyo raRac gaurkvevloba 

da amasTan dakavSirebiT piradad 

momaxsenebs Cemi, anu sapatrulo 

policiis xelmZRvaneloba. 

ver warmovidgendi, am dros 

Cems ojaxSi ra xdeboda. es iyo 

katastrofa, warmoudgeneli danaSauli, 

romelic Caidines Ss saministros 

maRalCinosnebma policielis 

ojaxis _ fexmZime colisa da 

Svilebis mimarT. saxlSi dabrunebis 

Semdeg aRmovaCine, rom Cemi gayvanis 

Semdeg mZinare ojaxSi Sei- 

Wrnen da daawiokes, mcdeloba 

hqondaT, rom fexmZime meuRle gaetacebinaT, 

Tumca es mezoblebma 

da naTesavebma, romlebic korpus- 

Si cxovroben, winaaRmdegobis Sedegad, 

aRkveTes. amis Semdeg gadawyvetileba 

miiRes da Svilebi gareT, 

sadarbazoSi gamomiyares, Cemi 

meuRle marto miimwyvdies da zustad 

igive droiT, anu Cemi gatacebidan 

dabrunebamde, daaxloebiT 

15 saaTis ganmavlobaSi, Zaladobdnen, 

sityvier Seuracxyofas 

ayenebdnen, araadamianurad eqceodnen, 

sulier tanjvasa da 

tkivils ayenebdnen. samarTlebriv 

enaze rom vTqvaT, aiZulebdnen 

garkveuli tipis informaciis 

miRebas imasTan dakavSirebiT, rom 

gaemyarebinaT is saqme, romlis 

dabralebis mcdelobac hqondaT. 

daviT berikaSvili: 

àm danaSaulis 

ukan yofili 

Ss ministri, 

WikaiZe dgas!~ 

uCa nanuaSvili 

detalebSi Sesvlisgan Tavs Sevikaveb, 

ra tipis zewola xdeboda 

fexmZime qalis mimarT, es prokuraturisTvis 

gankuTvnili Cveneba 

iqneba, magram xazgasmiT aRvniSnav, 

_ maTi qmedeba srulad kvalificirdeba 

sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsiT, 

es gaxlavT 144-I muxli, sadac 

weria, rom samsaxurebrivi uflebamosilebis 

gamoyenebiT, organizebulad 

Zaladoba, wameba da 

araadamianuri mopyroba winaswari 

Secnoba fexmZime qalis mimarT, 

romlis mizans warmoadgens masTan 

dakavSirebul, an meore-mesame pirze 

gasvla mis mier savaraudod 

Cadenil danaSaulze mtkicebulebis 

mopovebis mizniT. binaSi SeWra 

gaxldaT sruliad ukanono, ar warudgeniaT 

da bunebaSi ar arsebobda 

sasamarTlos ganCineba; ar 

warudgeniaT da adgilze ar gamotanila 

gamomZieblis an prokuroris 

dadgenileba. ca qudad ar 

miaCndaT da dedamiwa qalamnad, moqmedebdnen 

yvelanairi uflebisa 

da ukanonobis farglebSi, ase uswordebodnen 

Cems ojaxs. Cems 

meuRles Zalian mZime fexmZimoba 

hqonda, amis mtkicebulebac gvaqvs, 

rom bavSvis mocilebis niSnebi iyo 

da SenarCunebaze araerTi mkurnaloba 

Caitara. swored 9 ianvars, 

dilis 10:00 saaTze hqonda CaniSnuli 

eqimTan viziti. ra Tqma unda, 

axlobelTan darekvis saSualeba 

ar momeca, radgan ar miSvebdnen, 

sxvisTvis meTxova, rom konsultaciaze 

waeyvana, an ras momcemdnen, 

Turme, alyaSi hyavdaT moqceuli. 

amaze gansakuTrebiT imitom vamaxvileb 

yuradRebas, rom woliTi 

reJimis mqone qalze 15 saaTis ganmavlobaSi 

Zaladobdnen. ra Tqma 

unda, sabolood, es yvelaferi mis 

mdgomareobaze aisaxa, naadrevi 

mSobiaroba daewyo da bavSvi avadmyofi 

gaCnda, romlis mkurnalobac 

saqarTveloSi SeuZlebeli 

gaxda. germaniaSi ori umZimesi operacia 

Catarda da mkurnaloba 

dRemde grZeldeba. jerjerobiT, 

isic ar viciT, mkurnalobis procesi 

rodis dasruldeba. 

_ rogor gagaTavisufles? 

_ yvelaze saintereso am istoriaSi 

is aris, rom dakavebidan 15 

saaTis Semdeg, rodesac saxlSi 

gamiSves, xelmZRvanelma pirebma 

gamomaciles da ganmartes, rom es 

iyo gaugebroba, vrCebodi sapatrulo 

policiis rigebSi da yvelas 

sakadrisi pasuxi gaecemoda. 

sapatrulo policiis ufrosi ma- 

Sin gaxldaT daviT cinariZe. am 

ambidan ramdenime dReSi piradad 

Sevxvdi da yvelaferi movaxsene, 

kategoriulad moviTxove pasuxi, 

_ ratom gamwires, ratom ar momca 

saSualeba, rom, Tundac, samsaxurSi 

mivsuliyavi da iq davekiTxeT, 

sadac ver gabedavdnen Rirsebis 

Selaxvas da damamcirebel 

mdgomareobaSi Cems Cayenebas. pasuxi 

ar mimiRia. safuZveli maqvs 

ganvacxado, rom msgavsi masStabis 

danaSauli _ Tanxmobis micema, _ 

Tavis gundTan SeeZlo mxolod 

ministrs da swored es adamiani, 

yofili Ss ministri, WikaiZe dgas 

am danaSaulis ukan, romelmac br- 

Zaneba gasca. 

_ Tqven ras ukavSirebT am am- 

bavs? ratom unda daebralebinaT 

danaSauli, miT umetes, ministrs? 

_ Cemi azriT, Ss saministroSi, 

gansakuTrebiT ki 2012 wlis arCevnebis 

Semdeg, maRal poziciebze 

SemTxveviTi xalxi aRmoCnda, romelTa 

ganaTleba da kvalifikacia 

absoluturad ar Seefereba maT 

mier dakavebul Tanamdebobebs, pirveli 

am kiTxvis gamoZaxili gaxlavT 

es; meore _ maT saxeli daimkvidres 

da minda gagaxsenoT policiis 

samagaliTod dasjis ramdenime 

faqti. varaudis, cru dasmenis 

doneze, yovelgvari logikisa 

da mtkicebulebis gareSe, 

sakmarisi iyo, interesi gasCenodaT, 

maT mizans warmoadgenda 

samagaliTo dasja, romelic emsaxureba 

mxolod erT mizans _ srul 

kontrols Ss saministros TanamSromlebze; 

mesame, rac yvelaze mni- 

Svnelovania, es gaxldaT Cem mimarT 

cru dasmena. es adamiani Cem mier, 

Cemi wyaroebiT aris identificirebuli 

da amis Taobaze araerTi 

pataki davwere ministris 

saxelze, araerTi gancxadeba _ 

mTavari prokuroris saxelze, sadac 

Riad, xazgasmiT vadastureb, 

rom konkretulma adamianma ganaxorciela 

cru dasmena Cem mimarT 

da amas mohyva umZimesi Sedegebi, 

arakompetenturi moqmedeba, fsiqologiuri, 

uflebrivi, yvelanairi 

ukanono zewola da angariSsworeba; 

daterorebuli ojaxi, fexqv- 

ùCa nanuaSvilisTvis ufro 

upriani aRmoCnda moZalade 

maRalCinosnebis dacva, 

vidre ltolvilad qceuli 

policielis ojaxis!~ 

20 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.


eS gaTelili Rirseba da mundiri, 

lamis xelebSi Cakluli meuRle da 

bavSvi, saboloo jamSi, uari policielis 

dacvaze, samsaxuridan ukanono 

gaSveba, qveynis datoveba da 

ltolvilad qceva da a. S.! dRes 

saqarTveloSi miviReT situacia, 

sadac fexqveS gaiTela policiis 

dabali rgolis uflebebi, maTze 

erTdroulad Zaladobs jer xelmZRvaneloba 

da, Semdeg, kriminali. 

bolo 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi 

ganxorcielebuli kriminalis Tavdasxma 

mxolod imitom, rom es 

adamianebi policielebi iyvnen, sagangaSo 

da katastrofulia. dRes 

gardacvlili da daWrili policielebis 

ricxvi statistikiT 

„mxedrionis” epoqas utoldeba. 

_ vin aris cru damsmeni, ra 

interesi hqonda mas Tqven mima- 

rT? 

_ cru damsmeni aris adamiani, 

viszec erT-erTma ojaxma miitana 

eWvi, rom maTi gardacvlili Svili 

misi mokluli iyo da sagamoZiebo 

organoebs misi dakaveba mosTxova. 

konkretulad, gardacvlilis 

mamam; xolo motivi, _ ras emsaxureboda 

mis mier cru dasmena, es 

gaxlavT danaSaulis dafarva, 

Tavis arideba, cru kvalze dayeneba 

da a. S. 

_ TqvenTan piradi motivacia 

hqonda? 

_ diax! es dadasturebulic 

maqvs! es icis gamoZiebam da, sabednierod, 

saSualeba momeca, gardacvlilis 

ojaxs Sevxvedrodi. es 

orive mxaris iniciativiT Sedga. 

bevri kiTxvis niSani moixsna, poziciebi 

gavcvaleT da swored ma- 

Sin gaxda CemTvis cnobili, rom am 

adamianis mxridan movxvdi am gaugebrobaSi 

da gardacvlilis mamas 

pretenziebi mis mimarT hqonda. 

_ rogor gagrZelda Tqveni 

samsaxurebrivi saqmianoba? 

_ Ss saministros rigebSi vrCebi. 

CemTvis, policielisTvis, romelic 

skolis Semdeg 19 weli vemsaxurebodi 

mundirs da Rirseulad 

maqvs es wlebi gavlili, 

Zalian rTuli iyo gadawyvetilebis 

miReba, rom moZalade maRalCinosnebs 

davpirispirebodi. vicodi, 

rom es Zalian rTuli brZola iyo, 

vicodi, rom erT mxares iqneboda 

rigiTi, oRond Rirseuli policieli, 

xolo meore mxares iqnebodnen 

amxela gavlenis mqone 

moZalade kriminali maRalCinosnebi, 

romelTa zurgsac, didi alba- 

TobiT, gaamagrebda saxelmwifo 

institutebi, magram meuRlis naadrevma 

mSobiarobam da bavSvis 

aseTma mdgomareobam es gadamawyvetina 

da mzad viyavi, Cemi ojaxis 

Rirseba damecva. rodesac Cemi 

pirveli patakiT Ss ministrs mivmarTe, 

vacnobe, rogor moeqcnen 

policiels, mis ojaxs da xazgasmiT 

aRvniSne, rom CemTvis moralurad 

Zalian mZime iyo am sistemaSi 

yofna, Zalian mZime iyo am xalxis 

kolegebad aRqma, movTxove efeqtiani 

gamoZieba da maTTvis am periodSi 

samsaxurebrivi uflebamosilebis 

SeCereba. es iyo xalxi, 

visac wlebis ganmavlobaSi dana- 

Saulis SemTxvevaze gamoZaxebaze 

Sevxvedrivar da SesaZloa, kvlavac 

Sevxvedrodi, es CemTvis Zalian mZime 

iqneboda da swored am yvelafers 

rom vaanalizebdi, ministrs 

vacnobe da organoebidan Cemi 

gaSveba moviTxove. am pataks dRemde 

ar miscemia reagireba. patakis 

daweris Semdeg cinariZem damibara. 

igi dampirda, rom garkveuli 

drois Semdeg yvela pasuxs agebda, 

magram araferi Seicvala, 

mdgomareoba gaurkveveli darCa. 

amave periodSi gancxadebiT mivmarTe 

mTavar prokurors da gamo- 

Zieba moviTxve, Tumca uSedegod. 

gamoZiebis arCatarebiT damatebi- 

Ti danaSaulia Cadenili da pasuxisgebaSi 

misacem xalxTa raodenoba 

gafarToebulia. ori weli gvida, 

erTi kiTxva, erTi pasuxi, arc 

erTi sagamoZiebo organodan ar 

yofila. 

_ germaniaSi rogor aRmoCn- 

diT? 

_ rogorc aRvniSne, bavSvis 

mdgomareoba Zalian mZime iyo. 2015 

wels, jer kidev, moqmed Tanam- 

Sromels momyavs bavSvi germania- 

Si, vukeTebT or umZimes operacias 

da ukan vbrundebiT. eqimis rekomendaciiT, 

aucilebelia bavSvis 3 

TveSi erTxel kontroli. 2016 

wlis aprilSi gviwevs bavSvis pirvel 

kontrolze Cayvana da dabrunebuls 

mxvdeba Secvlili situacia 

_ Secvlilia ministri, sapatrulo 

departamentis direqtori 

da es batonebi axla moqmedebi gaxlavT 

_ mRebriSvili da razmaZe. 

xazgasmiT aRvniSnav, rom orivem 

Zalian kargad icis Cemi mdgomareoba, 

arc imas davmalav, rom garkveuli 

tipis dafinanseba, raRac 

etapze, Ss saministrom miiRo da 

situacia mas Semdeg iZabeba, rac 

germaniaSi morigi vizitis dafinansebaze, 

2016 wlis agvistoSi, 

uari ganmicxades. 

_ mizezi ra iyo? 

_ pasuxi moulodneli iyo. amas 

mohyva is, rom kadrebis sammarTvelos 

ufrosma Wilaiam damibara, 

romelic kategoriulad moiTxovda, 

rom ministris saxelze organoebidan 

daTxovnis pataki unda 

damewera ricxvis miTiTebis gareSe. 

ra Tqma unda, amas 

nebismieri mixvdeba, 

rom ukanono moTxovna 

iyo, ar davemorCile 

da ganvucxade, 

rom im dResve 

viyavi mzad, 

organo dametovebina 

da amas 

erTi wliT adre 

viTxovdi. 

msgavsi moTxovna 

ar dakmayofildeba, 

uricxvo pataki 

ar daiwereba 

da is motivi, 

rom TiTqos 

ojaxuri 

pirobebis gamo 

vtovebdi samsaxurs, 

ar Caiwereboda. 

moTxovna ar SeCerda, 

is memuqreboda, 

Tu ar davemorCilebodi, 

mZime mdgomareoba- 

Si aRmovCndebodi da 

a. S. am yvelaferze sapatrulo 

policiis xelmZRvanel razmaZes 

informacia mivawode da avuxseni, 

rom kategoriulad miuRebeli iyo 

Cemze da Cems ojaxze ganmeorebi- 

Ti zeweola da ver vxvdebodi, es 

yvelaferi ras emsaxureboda? ver 

vxvdebodi, ratom ar finansdeboda 

Cemi Svilis mkurnaloba, romelic 

am qveyanas moevlina dedis 

mimarT ganxorcielebuli wamebisa 

da araadamianuri mopyrobis Sedegad, 

Sss-s maRalCinosnebis mxridan 

fsiqologiuri travmis miyenebiT, 

naadrevad janmrTelobis problemis 

SeqmniT? gacemuli dapirebis 

miuxedavad, CemTan Sexvedra aRar 

inebes. am gaurkvevlobaSi myofma 

gadawyvetileba miviRe da 24 maiss 

mRebriSvilis saxelze pataki davwere, 

erTi wlis winandeli patakis 

asli davurTe, romelic reagirebis 

gareSe iyo datovebuli, ori 

gancxadebis asli davurTe, romelic 

mTavari prokuroris saxelzea 

dawerili da reagirebis 

gareSea datovebuli da kategoriulad 

moviTxove, rom aRsruldes 

samarTali da gaivlos wiTeli 

xazi _ saministro icavs policiis 

aleqsandre WikaiZe 

oficers da mis ojaxs, Tu uars 

ambobs amaze da agrZelebs damna- 

Saveebis dacvas? 

_ ra raodenobis Tanxaze iyo 

saubari? 

_ operaciebi sakmaod Zviri 

dagvijda, bolos uari miTxres, 

daaxloebiT, 2000 evroze, romelic 

konsultaciisTvis iyo saWiro. 

patakis daweris Semdeg yvelaze 

didi saswauli moxda: 24 maiss 

Cabarebul pataks meore dResve 

mosdevs generaluri inspeqciis 

zari, mibareben. rodesac mivedi, 

aRmovaCine, rom miyeneben absurdul 

sakiTxs, Cem winaaRmdeg warmoebuls, 

romelic ukavSirdeba 

Cemi mxridan konkretul gadacdomas. 

ra Tqma unda, kategoriulad 

uarvyavi, Cvenebac miveci da xazgasmiT 

aRvniSne, es yvelaferi xdeboda 

imitom, rom ar davemorCile 

kadrebis sammarTvelos ufrosis 

ukanono brZanebas uricxvi patakis 

dawerasTan dakavSirebiT. erTi 

Tvis Tavze generaluri inspeqciis 

daskvna miviRe, rom daTxovnili 

var Ss saministros rigebidan. 

am qmedebebiT, faqtobrivad, meored 

damiyenes ojaxi riskis qveS 

ise, rom warbic aravis Seuxria da 

namusi aravis Setokebia. ase aRmovCndi 

germaniaSi da dRes es saxelmwifo 

zrunavs Cvenze, vinaidan 

Cemma saxelmwifom, Cemma saministrom 

Tqva uari _ daecva policieli 

da misi ojaxi. am istoriaSi 

rac yvelaze saSinelia _ inertuloba, 

sagamoZiebo organoebis 

mxridan gulgriloba aseTi mZime 

danaSaulis mimarT. gansakuTrebiT, 

generaluri inspeqciis Tanam- 

Sromlebs da mis ufros varlam 

xaTriZes vgulisxmob, 

romelTa daskvnamac 

gamiSva samsaxuridan, 

aseve prokuraturis. 

yvela kanonieri 

gza gamoviyene, 

pirad 

xelmZRvanelobas 

mivmarTe, 

mivmarTe ministrs, 

mTavar 

prokurors, 

moraluri 

uflebis dasacavad 

_ sasamarTlos, 

am 

qveyanaSi sxva 

gza aRar arsebobs, 

me, policiels 

ufleba 

ar mqonda, quCa- 

Si mitingi momewyo, 

amitom viTxovdi 

organodan gaSvebas, 

iqneb, es gzac gamomeyenebina, 

magram 

ar gamiSves, xolo rodesac gami- 

Sves, mitingebisTvis da aqciebisTvis 

dro aRar mqonda, bavSvis 

janmrTeloba riskis qveS idga. 

aqedan gamomdinare, iZulebuli 

gavxdi, qveyana dametovebina. mosamarTle 

urTmeliZis pirveli naTloba 

Cems saqmeze Sedga, romelic 

gaxldaT Ss saministros winaaRmdeg 

moraluri dava saqalaqo sasamarTloSi 

samoqalaqo kuTxiT da 

sruliad Tavxedurad 10-jer uari 

miTxra warmoebaSi miRebaze, miT 

umetes, rom ufleba ar aqvs, mosamarTlem 

samoqalaqo saqmis ganxilvaze 

uari giTxras, Tan moralurze. 

es saqme 10 uaris Semdeg 

miiRes, magram dResac ar ganxilula. 

ra danaSaulic xelewifebodaT, 

araferi darCenila, rom ar 

CaedinaT. erTaderTi, Cemi fizikuri 

likvidacia ar ganxorcielebula. 

_ Tqveni informaciiT, aseTi 

faqtebi xSirad xdeba? 

_ ver vityvi, rom es Cveulebrivi 

wesia, magram maRalCinosnebi 

rom erTgvarad Zaladoben 

policiis dabal rgolze, es 

damkvidrebuli praqtikaa da wesad 

aris qceuli. rogorc ki xmas amoiReb, 

simarTlisa da Rirsebis dacvas 

gabedav, maSinve mTeli aparati 

erTveba, aseT policiels, minimum, 

samsaxurs atovebineben da, 

maqsimum, sapatimroSi ketaven. mec 

swored maT winaaRmdeg samarTliani 

brZola ar mepatia. ver Seeguen 

imas, rom ver SemaSines da 

gamtexes, ver damaCoqes. rogor manipulirebdnen 

bavSvis dafinansebis 

sakiTxebiT imis sanacvlod, 

rom samarTlebrivi brZola SemeCerebina. 

dRes ojaxi gayofili 

maqvs, ori Svili saqarTveloSi 

darCa, me da Cemi meuRle aq wamovediT 

patara bavSviT da germaniaSi 

politikuri TavSesafari 

miviReT. aravin ifiqros, aq advilia 

yofna, gansakuTrebiT im adamianisTvis, 

visTvisac Tavisi qveyana 

mniSvnelovania. 

_ saxalxo damcvels ar mima- 

rTeT? 

_ diax mivmarTe da bolos uCa 

nanuaSvilsa da mis aparats, Sevpirdi, 

rom dadgeboda dro da sazogadoeba 

gaigebda maT samarcxvino 

qmedebas. isini maqsimalurad cdilobdnen, 

rom Cemi saqmis Seswavla 

ar daewyoT. Cemi mxridan Tavdauzogavi 

brZolis Sedegad ZaliT 

davawyebine Seswavla, magram dRemde 

pasuxi ar maqvs _ ras swavloben 

da ras akeTeben? ori mimarTulebiT 

daiwyes Seswavla, samsaxuridan 

gaSvebis Sesaxeb maleve daido 

daskvna, romelic samarcxvinoa! 

faqtobrivad, arafriT gansxvavdebian 

im organoebisgan, romelic 

Cems uflebebs laxavda. Zaladobas 

ar vgulisxmob, magram rodesac ar 

iZieb, uflebas laxav! rodesac sasamarTlo 

ar iRebs sarCels, maTi 

qmedebac identuria! saxalxo damcvelis 

aparatma dokumenti momTxova, 

romelic generaluri inspeqciis 

pasuxs gaabaTilebda. miuxedavad 

imisa, rom es pasuxi oficialurad 

eleqtronul fostaze gavugzavne, 

Tavxedurad uaryves da 

daskvnaSi msjeloben, es dokumenti 

maTTvis ar mimiwodebia, xolo 

Cems saprotesto gancxadebas saxalxo 

damcvelis saxelze, rom misi 

aparatis usamarTlo daskvnebi 

gaekontrolebina, dRemde pasuxi 

ar gascemia. sami Tvea, uxeSad ar- 

Rveven kanons saxalxo damcvelis 

Sesaxeb da Cems gancxadebebs ar pasuxoben. 

es aris rgoli, romelic 

saxelmwifos interesebs atarebs. 

maTTvis ufro upriani aRmoCnda 

moZalade maRalCinosnebis dacva, 

vidre ltolvilad qceuli policielis 

ojaxisa! 


21

liwadnaxevari rom vdie miSas, 

gana, amas ise vakeTebdi, rom 

aravin mavalebda? marTalia, 

SekiTxva gagiCndebaT, ratom 

vakeTebdi, me suleli, magram 

ase iyo da rac iyo, imas vambob, 

arafers vigoneb... 

levan Soniam Rirseuli policielebi, 

romelTac 2008 

wlis omSi TiTo daRupuli yvelas 

hyavda ojaxSi samsaxuridan 

gauSva da maT nacvlad Tavisi 

naTesavebi _ deidaSvilebi 

da biZaSvilebi daniSna. ase 

iyo, roca samxedro policiis 

TanamSromlebi gaaTavisufla 

da Tavisi deidaSvili rom daniSna. 

levan Sonias wesi da moqmedebis 

gegma Zalian martivia: 

jer gamogiyenebs da mere 

gadagagdebs. 

ai, ase davbrmavdi. mTeli 

weliwadnaxevari ise gamomiyena, 

rom meti ar SeiZleboda _ Ramis 

or, an oTx saaTze, sadac 

karvebs dadgamdnen devnilebi, 

iq gavCndebodi xolme, radgan 

Sonias devnilebTan gansakuTrebiT 

cudi urTierToba hqonda, 

imis miuxedavad, rom Tvi- 

Tonac galidanaa. galelebi 

ambobdnen, _ gubernatorad es 

kontrabandisti kaci rom ar 

daeniSnaT, am xelisuflebas ra 

gauWirdao... 

levan Soniam samxareo policia 

martiv mamravlebad daSala, 

yvela erTmaneTs daupirispira. 

aseve moeqca zaal gegeWkors 

(samxareo kriminaluri 

policiis yofili ufrosi, romelic 

levan Soniam samsaxuridan 

gaaTavisufla, _ l. b.), romelsac 

Causafrda, Tavisi binZuri 

da Cveuli wesiT viRac kaci 

daayena pirze da cru dasmenis 

gamo samsaxuridan gauSva. 

me arasamTavrobo organizacia 

mqonda da RamRamobiT Cem- 

Tan, ofisSi modioda. zugdi- 

577 20 86 13 

samegrelosa da ara marto am 

regionSi kargad cnobili lali anTia, romelic sxvadasxva 

dros iyo soflis gamgebeli, arasamTavrobo organizaciis war- 

momadgeneli da romelmac yofili da moqmedi xelisuflebis 

kuluarebi, maTi warmomadgenlebis av-kargi Zalian kargad icis, 

„qronika+”-s skandalur intervius aZlevs da samegrelos gu- 

bernator levan Soniaze sensaciur faqtebs asajaroebs. 

lali anTia detalurad ixsenebs, 

rogor da ra viTareba- 

Si gaicno levan Sonia da aRiarebs, 

rom mis davalebebs asrulebda, 

Tumca amas nanobs da 

dRes mas kontrabandistsa da 

„erovnuli moZraobis dauZinebel 

mters” uwodebs. 

lali anTia ixsenebs, rom 

1998 wlis 31 marts, zviad gamsaxurdias 

dabadebis dRes, roca 

zugdidTan axlos, erT ganmartoebul 

saxls Sefarebuli 

zviad gamsaxurdias momxre gvardiis 

oficeri, goCa esebua, 

Sss-s specrazmis wevrebma alyaSi 

moaqcies da daxvrites, 

operacias swored levan Sonia 

xelmZRvanelobda. 

lali anTias TqmiT, levan 

Sonia mas „yvela Sav saqmes” avalebda, 

„zogjer Ramis or, sam 

da dilis oTx saaTze gveZaxda, 

xan kalaZis winaaRmdeg sWirdeboda, 

romelic, misi TqmiT, 

RaribaSvilis winaaRmdeg moqmedebda, 

me ki Cems TanamoazreebTan 

erTad vedeqi gverdiT 

da Sonias interesebs vicavdi. 

iyo dro, roca biZina ivaniSvils 

„xoWoWias” (patara, javSnian 

xoWos niSnavs da megrul 

enaSi kninobiTi mimarTvisTvis 

gamoiyeneba, _ l.b.) eZaxda”, _ 

ambobs is. 

lali anTia samegrelos gubernators 

„makdonaldsTan” 

dakavSirebul skandalSic amxels 

da ambobs, rom man gubernatoris 

administraciis gverdiT 

mdebare miwis farTobi, sadac 

amJamad „makdonaldsia” ganTavsebuli, 

Temur Wyonias kanonis 

darRveviT mihyida, Semdeg 

ki, roca masTan problemebi 

Seeqmna, masve dauTmo gubernatoris 

administraciis remonti: 

„am garigebiT Soniam jibe- 

Si Caido 800 aTasi, xolo 200 

aTasi vis misca, jer ver Seviswavle. 

aqciebs uwyobdnen „makdonaldsTan” 

dakavSirebiT, 

didi ukmayofileba iyo zugdidSi, 

xalxi ambobda, aseTi ram 

SevardnaZis drosac ar gakeTebulao”, 

_ ambobs lali anTia. 

lali anTia acxadebs, rom 

levan SoniasTan dapirispirebis 

gamo misi da misi ojaxis wevrebis 

sicocxles safrTxe 

emuqreba da Ss ministrs mimar- 

Tavs, rom misi sicocxle daicvas. 

lali anTias mimarTvis adresatia 

aseve sus-is xelmZRvaneli, 

vaxtang gomelauric. 

22 

laSa berulava 


„qronika+” lali anTiasTan 

intervius gTavazobT: 

_ minda giTxraT, ratom daiwyo 

Cemi dapirispireba levan 

Soniasa da, zogadad, zugdidis 

adgilobriv 

xelisuflebasTan 

da 

ra makav- 

Sirebs, 

ratom 

gamomicxades 

omi: Sonias 20 weliwadze 

metia, vicnob, is SevardnaZis 

dros specdaniSnulebis 

razmis ufrosi iyo, xolo levan 

kenWaZe _ uSiSroebis ufrosi. 

gexsomebaT, 1998 wels goCa 

esebua rom daxvrites, swored 

maSin Sonia specrazmis ufrosi 

iyo, kenWaZem piradad esrola 

da levan Sonias specrazmic 

monawileobda, eseni ganTavsebuli 

iyvnen TorsaSi (sofeli 

zugdidsa da xobs Soris, sadac 

xelisuflebisgan kontrolirebadi 

SeiaraRebuli razmebi, 

maT Soris, partizanTa nawili 

imyofeboda, _ l.b.). 

me maSin soflis gamgebeli 

viyavi. gamgeblebs bevr iseT 

rames gvavalebdnen, rac, xSir 

SemTxvevaSi, gvindoda Tu ara, 

unda Segvesrulebina, radgan 

sakuTar Tavze bevrs iRebdnen 

da arc me gaxldiT gamonaklisi, 

roca magaTi Semyure viyavi. 

im dros, roca puri, wyali da 

Suqi Wirda, me Sonias 90-kiloiani 

saklavi saCuqrad mivuyvane, 

specrazmi rom daepurebina. 

amas imitom giyvebiT, rom 

giTxraT, saidan vicnob am kontrabandist 

da moRalate levan 

Sonias, iqidan vici, vin iyo 

Sonia. mere Tqven mogexsenebaT, 

rac moxda: zviadistebi erTmaneTs 

daajaxes, amas Soniasnairebi 

akeTebdnen, rogorc 

axla apirispireben zugdidSi... 

mere, roca 2003 wels revolucia 

moxda, Soniam saministro 

datova, gancxadeba gaakeTa da 

saakaSvilTan gadabargda. 

2012 wels, roca dRevandeli 

xelisufleba movida, cxra 

weli vebrZodi miSas reJims da 

axla vnanob, rom vebrZodi... 

yvela Zlier adamians Seu- 

Zlia bodiSis moxda da ukan 

daxeva! me vnanob, rom 2012 

wels mTeli ojaxiT dRevandeli 

xelisuflebis gverdiT davdeqi 

da bevri zewolac gadavitaneT. 

2012 wels, roca xelisuflebis 

gadabareba moxda, mTeli 

levan Sonia 

lali anTia: 

`vnanob, rom 

saakaSvilis 

xelisuflebas 

vebrZodi da goCa 

esebuas mkvlel, 

kontrabandist 

levan Sonias 

vedeqi gverdiT~ 

laSa gogia 

saqarTvelo daudga biZinas 

gverdiT da arc me viyavi gamonaklisi. 

maSin samegrelom waago, 

samegreloSi „ocnebam” ver 

gaimarjva, Tumca biZinas Cven 

davudeqiT da amas ar vayvedri, 

magram vnanob, rom 2012 wels me 

gadavefare Cems sofelSi (sofeli 

odiSi, sadac biZina ivaniSvili 

winasaarCevnod, 2012 

wels imyofeboda da mosaxleobas 

kontraqciis fonze Sexvda, 

_ l.b.). 

sxvaTa Soris, axla rom portirebuli 

„nacionalebi” arian, 

isini amovidnen maSin xelketebiT 

da biZinas vicavdi, magram 

RmerTma Seargos, amaze mets 

arafers vityvi. arCevnebSi 

„ocnebis” gamarjvebis Semdeg 

samxareo policiis ufrosad 

levan Sonia mogvevlina _ Rrmad 

Caxeduli aferistobaSi, 

kontrabandaSi, erisa da beris 

moRalateobaSi... 

magram, amis miuxedavad, me 

kaxa miqaiasTan da sxva TanamoazreebTan 

erTad Tanadgoma 

gavuwie da uangarod vemsaxure. 

maSin Ss ministri 

RaribaSvili iyo, 

Sonias ki 

TamazaSvilTan 

urTierToba 

akavSirebda. 

we- 

22 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.

dis maSindeli simSvide misi 

damsaxureba ar aris: radgan iq 

„ocneba” damarcxda, xelisuflebas 

sakrebuloSi Zalian uWirda. 

TviTmmarTvelobaSi yvelaferi 

„nacionalebs” ekuTvnoda, 

gamgebeli alika qobalia 

„nacionalebis” iyo da Sonias 

rom simSvide hqonda, es gaxldaT 

Cveni damsaxureba, qalebis 

damsaxureba, Torem levan 

Sonias TviTon fulis aRebisa 

da kontrabandis garda araferi 

gaukeTebia. 

erTxel ise moxda, rom levan 

Soniam damibara, asi dolari 

maCuqa da miTxra, _ kalaZe 

batoni irakli RaribaSvilis 

dauZinebeli mteria, is ivaniSvilTan 

CaSvebuli hyavs. modi, 

Sen arasamTavrobo organizacia 

gaqvs da Seni xalxi kalaZes 

daupirispire, sityviT gamodi, 

xalxi gamoiyvane da kalaZes 

saTqmeli vuTxraT, rom aq 

fexi ar Camodgas, magas xudonhesis 

daTreva unda da RaribaSvils 

Ralatobso. 

dRes Tu xval RaribaSvils 

prezidentoba unda da kalaZes 

premieroba, amitom ivaniSvils 

arwmunebs, rom RaribaSvili 

ivaniSvils Ralatobso. dampirda, 

ojaxis wevrebs dagisaqmeb, 

maRali xelfasi eqnebaTo. magram 

me amas adamianuradac ver 

SevZlebdi... 

imitom ki ara, rom kalaZes 

vicnobdi _ is arc Cemi naTesavia 

da arc araferi makavSirebs, 

aramed imitom, rom im adamianebs 

vupirispirdebodi, 

romlebic simarTlisTvis ar 

ibrZodnen. amitom ar gamoviyene 

Cemi SesaZlebloba kalaZis 

winaaRmdeg, ris Semdegac Soniam 

amiTvalwuna da Cemi moqmedeba 

aRar moswonda, amitom 

gamamwesa cixeSi: 

2014 wlis 10 marts guberniaSi 

damibara da Svidi policieli 

damesxa Tavs... getyviT, rom 

me adre dakavebuli viyavi, Tumca 

es ar momxdara TaRliTobisa 

da meqrTameobis gamo, 2012 

wlis 24 noembers ki cixidan 

avadmyofobis dros gamiSves, _ 

amaT amnistia rom daarqves da 

yaCaRebi rom gamouSves, mec 

Semexo da gamovedi. 

SpricebiT da wamliT rom 

hqondaT sabargulebi savse da 

axla rom amboben, viTom politikuri 

devnis gamo gamovedi- 

To, amas arasodes vikadreb, 

politikur sarCuls Cems saqmes 

ar mivcem, radgan, SeiZleba, 

gadameteba mqonda bevr rame- 

Si... amitom me ar damiweria gancxadeba, 

rom politpatimari 

viyavi. me Cems simarTles veZeb 

da ara politpatimris sar- 

Culs _ politpatimrebi iyvnen 

gamsaxurdia da kostava... 

Tqven iciT, rom 2005-dan 

2010 wlamde miwidan sul iRebdnen 

komunistebis dros Cadebul 

rkinis milebs. am milebs 

yvela iRebda, visac gauxardeboda 

da am dros me cixeSi vijeqi, 

magram milebis amoRebis 

saqme mainc me mbraldeboda. 

2011 wels Cabarebul milebze 

me damades xeli, radgan levan 


Sonias ase undoda... 

erT martiv SekiTxvas davsvam: 

TviTon iyo samxareo policiis 

ufrosi da mis Tvalwin 

rom gadioda zugdididan milebiT 

datvirTuli trailerebi, 

ras akeTebda?! visac rogor 

gauxardeboda, ise mihqonda es 

milebi, miwaSi ido da jarTad 

iRebdnen... eqvsasi metri, ager, 

eklesiaSia da naxon, vin iRebda 

da vin _ ara... 

ai, am saqmeze gamwira, magram 

me gamamarTles. gamamarTlebeli 

ganaCeni xelSi miWiravs, 

quTaisis sasamarTlomac gamamarTla 

samjer da daamtkica, 

rom me arafer SuaSi viyavi... 

rac Seexeba gomelaurs, me 

rom micnobs, ise vis icnobs: 

roca 2012 wlis ivnisSi samegreloSi 

Camovida, me davxvdi, 

sul me mirekavda, sul vsaubrobdiT. 

roca 22 seqtembers 

biZina ivaniSvili Camovida, Cven 

10 aTasi kaci davaxvedreT. 

zviadis dros rom ar maxsovs, 

imdeni xalxi iyo aq. mere rom 

Camovidnen, alasania rom daayenes 

maJoritarad, maSinac Cven 

davxvdiT, dRes ki Sonia meubneba, 

rom saWiro ar var da Cems 

ojaxs devnis, sus-i damdevs... 

kargad maxsovs, TviTon Sonia 

„xoWoWias” eZaxda biZinas, 

rogor amoqmedebs kalaZes 

RaribaSvilis winaaRmdego... me 

dadasturebulad geubnebiT, 

rom levan Sonia aq yvela biznesis 

wilSia: lombardis 

mflobel Cuxuas umravi fuli 

Seawera, Tavi moakvlevines. gairkva, 

rom 100 aTasi dolaris 

oqros nakeTobebi hqondaT gamorTmeuli... 

minda, mivmarTo Ss ministr 

mRebriSvils, romelsac 20 welia, 

vicnob: daicvas Cemi ojaxi 

levan Soniasgan da laSa gogiasgan 

(zugdidis raionis sakrebulos 

Tavmjdomare, _ l. b.). 

es laSa gogia zugdidSi manana 

kobaxiZis saxeliT mogvevlina, 

manamde gigi ugulavasTan muSaobda. 

mere ar vici, rogor moaxerxa, 

magram 2012 wels manana 

kobaxiZis kandidatad mogvevlina. 

meSinia, rom momklaven. gana, 

erTi, ori da sami mouklavs Sonias? 

rom icodeT, Sonias soxumSi 

maRaziebi aqvs gaxsnili da 

produqtebs aqedan agzavnis, 

amaT 90-iani wlebi daabrunes: 

rad minda Suqi, rad minda wyali, 

roca Soniam samegreloSi 

kriminali da ubedureba 

daabruna?! araferi ar minda, 

sulac sibneleSi vicxovreb Soniasa 

da kriminalebis gareSe... 

ramdenjerme davapire am 

yvelafris xmamaRla Tqma, redaqciaSic 

mivedi (erT-erT 

gazeTs asaxelebs, romlis identificirebisganac 

Segnebulad 

vikavebT Tavs, _ red.), sadac 

dampirdnen, rom yvelafers gamoaqveynebdnen, 

magram mxolod 

mcire nawili, isic, Secvlili 

formiT gamoaqveynes, razec 

Sonia gaRizianda da regionSi 

Tavisi morCili Jurnalistebis 

xeliTac damiwyo brZola da 

Worebis gavrceleba... 

weren, rom viTom CemTvis vi- 

Racas Zroxa uCuqnia, aseve weren 

am milebis saqmeze da aTas 

tyuils. es faqti saerTod ar 

yofila, magram romc yofiliyo, 

Zroxa, maqsimum, 1000 lari 

Rirs da TviTon Sonias rom senakis 

gamgebelma 50-aTas dolariani 

manqana aCuqa da Tavisi 

meuRle rom darboda baTumsa 

da zugdids Soris, ar gaxmaurda 

am manqanis ambavi? xom aRiara 

senakis gamgebelma TviTon, 

me mayidina es manqanao? mere ki 

iZulebuli gaxda, rom es manqana 

daebrunebina... hoda, Tvi- 

Ton 50-aTas dolariani manqana 

ar gahkvirvebia da Cemi mewveli 

Zroxa gaukvirda? 

Ss ministrs minda, vuTxra: 

daicvas Cveni usafrTxoeba, 

gmirobis ordens aravis vTxov. 

minda, gomelaurs vuTxra: 

Tqven ar iciT, aq ra xdeba! minda, 

premiersac mivmarTo: batono 

giorgi, me Tqvenc gicnobT, 

jer kidev, „moqalaqeTa 

kavSirSi” iyaviT da Jvanias megobari 

brZandebodiT, mere 

„memarjvene”... ratom eweviT 

Cemi ojaxis diskretidacias? 

me vici, rom Tqven daurekeT 

Sonias, agineT da uTxariT, rom 

anTia moiSoreo... 

ratom? risTvis? ras vaSavebT 

me da Cemi ojaxi? rame miviTviseT? 

TavdadebisTvis, TavganwirvisTvis 

visjebiT? Sei- 

Zleba, ar mimiRoT, magram vici, 

rom presas kiTxulobT, _ minda, 

SegxvdeT da simarTle giTxraT. 

imasac getyviT, rogor 

Catarda arCevnebi 2016 wels... 

me iq videqi da vici, rom meore 

turi ki ara, mesamec ar 

geyofodaT, iq rom „nacionalebis” 

koordinatorebi ar moesyidaT... 

sajaro moxeleebi biuletenebs 

yridnen, arCevnebi 

wagebuli gqondaT, yvela koordinators 

davadeb xels, rogor 

waages, rogor gaayalbes, 

uamravi dokumenturi masala 

maqvs. ZrwodeT, batono premiero, 

elodeT aqciebs, quCaSi 

xalxis gamosvlas... 

me yovelTvis mivdiodi win 

da yvela revoluciaSi, amitom 

mec yvelafers avafrialeb da 

argumentirebul simarTles 

vityvi, ra aris mosalodneli 

samegreloSi da ra xdeba dRes. 

baton biZinasac minda, mivmarTo: 

didi imedi mqonda 

Tqveni, Tqven ambobdiT, rom 

saqarTvelos mxsnelad moevlineT, 

gvpirdebodiT, rom saqarTvelos 

uSvelidiT da Rirseul 

xalxs daafasebdiT, magram 

piriqiT moiqeciT da vxedav, 

rom Tavisuflad SegiZliaT 

gaswiroT erTguli adamianebi 

da vinc simarTles ityvis, 

CaqoloT... 

mixeil saakaSvilsac minda, 

mivmarTo: miSa, ar gaitexo guli, 

me Seni dauZinebeli mteri 

viyavi, magram axla vnanob, Tumca, 

jer kidev, unda dagakvirde, 

ras moimoqmedeb da rogor... 

„yivCaRebis” xelSia zugdidi 

Sonias saxiT: dRe da Rame bWoben, 

vin gauSvan cixeSi, vin gacvalon 

afxazeTSi, enguris xidis gavliT 

saqoneli midis, kontrabanda Semodis. 

xalxs eSinia, magram Zalian 

male ise moxdeba, rom qu- 

CaSi gamova da es iqneba amaTi 

parpaSis dasasruli... 


23

ealuri cifri miviRoT da, aqedan 

gamomdinare, daskvnebi gavake- 

ToT. daaxloebiT erTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi 

daviwyebT am process. 

Tumca im aqtivTan, romelic saarCevno 

procesebSi uSualod CarTulia, 

Sexvedrebi, konsultaciebi 

gvqonda da getyviT, rom 99%-ze 

metma gadawyvita, bolomde CvenTan 

erTad iyos. im erTma procentmac 

Tqva, rom raRac piradi urTier- 

Tobebidan gamomdinare Tavs Seikavebda 

am brZolaSi monawileobisgan. 

rac Seexeba struqturul er- 

Teulebs, diax, Tavmjdomare da 

moadgile wavidnen, romlebsac 

politikuri da saorganizacio 

mdivnebi gahyvnen. 

_ e. i. xelmZRvanelma rgolma 

partia datova, adamianebma, romlebic, 

amave dros, saqalaqo or- 

ganizaciis saxeebic iyvnen. 

_ diax, realurad, es adamianebi, 

rogorc Tanamdebobrivad, ise 

cnobadobis TvalsazrisiT, partias 

warmoadgendnen, magram uSualod 

im rgols, romelic muSaobda 

rogorc saarCevno, ise arasaarCevno 

periodSi da romlis mxre- 

xviCa vaSaymaZe 


„nacionaluri moZraobis” quTaisis organizaciidan zogi- 

erTi lideris gasvlis Semdeg rigiTi wevrebi reorganizacias 

elian. partia datova Tavmjdomarem, merve mowvevis parla- 

mentis deputatma, giorgi TevdoraZem, romelic, sxva Tanamo- 

azreebTan erTad, „evropuli saqarTvelos” wevri gaxda. 

yofili Tangundelebis ganSoreba 

quTaisis sakrebuloSi arsebul, 

4 deputatisgan dakompleqtebul 

fraqciazec aisaxa. rogorc 

Cans, fraqciis daSla samomavlod 

gardauvalia, radgan partiebi 

axla masSi mxolod 2-2 deputatiT 

arian warmodgenilni, rac 

cal-calke fraqciis Seqmnis Sesa- 

Zleblobas, ubralod, gamoricxavs. 

sakrebulos deputatma, „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” wevrma, giorgi 

uklebam, brifingi gamarTa 

da yofil Tanapartielebs fraqciis 

datovebisken mouwoda. misi 

TqmiT, daviT gogisvaniZe da amiran 

ZoweniZe fraqciidan gasvlas im 

mizeziT ayovneben, rom xelfasis 

daTmoba uWirT. aRniSnuli gancxadeba, 

ra Tqma unda, meore mxridan 

upasuxod ar darCenila. oponentebs 

fraqciidan argasvlis Taobaze 

sakuTari argumentebi aqvT. 

ra xdeba quTaisis sakrebuloSi 

gaxsnil brZolis xazze da rogoria 

amJamindeli da yofili „nacionalebis” 

samomavlo gegmebi? _ 

es is kiTxvebia, romlebiTac „qronika+”-ma 

sxvadasxva banakSi aRmoCenilebs 

mimarTa. 

daviT gogisvaniZe _ sakrebu- 

los deputati, „evropuli saqa- 

rTvelos” wevri: 

_ partiuli infrastruqturis 

mowyoba Tavidan gviwevs. bevri 

adamiani, maT Soris, agitatori da 

koordinatori, CvenTan aris. amJamad 

ofiss vawyobT da amis Semdeg 

quTaisis organizaciis prezentacia 

gveqneba. 

_ giorgi uklebam mogiwodaT, 

sakrebuloSi fraqcia datovoT. 

ras apirebT? 

_ mTavari opoziciuri fraqciis 

daSlis pasuxismgeblobas saku- 

Tar Tavze ver aviRebT. konsultaciebi 

daviwyeT. vinaidan 2 wevri 

am fraqciidan „nacionalur moZraobas” 

ukve ar warmovadgenT, maT 

SevTavazeT, saxelwodeba Segvecvala 

da fraqcias aseTi saxiT gaegrZelebina 

funqcionireba, razedac 

pasuxad brifingi miviReT. ise 

mogviwodeben, datoveT fraqciao, 

TiTqos, iq 10 kaci iyos gaerTianebuli 

da Cven ori unda gavideT 

mxolod. Tu fraqcia davtoveT, es 

imas niSnavs, rom igi aRar iarsebebs. 

maSin pirdapir gviTxran, 

daSaleT fraqciao. maT vuTxariT, 

rom Tuki saWirod ar miaCniaT, safraqcio 

muSaoba axali saxelwodebiT 

gamoviyenoT, rom Cvens ZiriTad 

oponentTan, „qarTul ocnebasTan” 

politikuri brZola gavagrZeloT, 

maSin Tavad SeuZliaT, 

es gadawyvetileba dResve miiRon. 

maTi mxridan gakeTebuli gancxadeba, 

ubralod, populistobaa. sazogadoeba 

amiT SecdomaSi SehyavT. 

SesaZlebelia, vinmes egonos, rom 

iq viRac rCeba da Cven ar gavdivarT. 

me da amiran ZoweniZes gvsurs, 

axali saxelwodebiT vimu- 

SaoT, magram ar undaT? maSin miiRon 

gadawyvetileba da Tavad daSalon 

fraqcia. Cven rom es gavake- 

ToT, darwmunebuli var, gamovlen 

da brals dagvdeben. 

fraqcia romelime partiis 

kuTvnileba ar aris. deputatebis 

gadawyvetilebaa, Tu rogor gaagr- 

Zelon quTaisis sakrebuloSi 

saqmianoba. 

giorgi ukleba _ sakrebulos 

deputati, „nacionaluri moZrao- 

bis” wevri: 

_ Tqvens yofil Tanapartielebs 

mediis saSualebiT sakrebuloSi 

arsebuli fraqciis datovebaze 

mouwodeT. aseTi forma ra- 

tom gaxda saWiro? 

_ imitom, rom konsultaciebi 

CixSi Sevida. maTi moTxovnaa, fraqcias 

neitraluri saxeli daerqvas, 

rac CvenTvis absoluturad miuRebelia. 

TviTmiznad ar visaxavT, 

aucileblad fraqciaSi viyoT, miuxedavad 

saxelwodebisa da principebisa. 

isini, aseve, Tavmjdomaris 

cvlilebaze uars amboben. yvelaferma 

erTad moiyara Tavi, ramac 

Cven Soris sruli Seusabamoba gamoiwvia 

rogorc strategiuli, ise 

ideologiuri kuTxiT, amitomac 

gavakeTe gancxadeba. aseT pirobeb- 

Si umjobesia, im axali politikuri 

organizaciis wevrebi, romlebmac 

„nacionaluri moZraoba” datoves, 

TavianTi gziT wavidnen, xolo darCenili 

2 deputati Cveni Zveli 

gziT wavalT da ase gavagrZelebT 

opozicur velze biZina ivaniSvilis 

xelisuflebasTan brZolas. 

vfiqrob, mowodeba, romelic Cven 

gavakeTeT, swori iyo. dauSvebelia, 

fraqcia raRac fiqcia iyos. rogorc 

saxelwodebiT, ise Sinaarsi- 

Tac, is unda iyos namdvili opozicia. 

formalur fraqciebs Cven veranairad 

ver davuWerT mxars. 

_ konkretul sakiTxebze Zvel 

TanagundelebTan muSaoba aRar 

warmogidgeniaT? 

_ warmodgeniT muSaoba yvelasTan 

SeiZleba, magram rodesac 

isini gvTavazoben, fraqcias aucileblad 

Seecvalos saxeli da is 

aRar iyos „erTiani nacionaluri 

moZraoba”, esaa is, rac CvenTvis 

kategoriulad miuRebelia. 

_ Tuki maT Tqveni mowodebis 

Semdeg fraqciidan gasvlis 

Taobaze gancxadeba ar gaakeTes, 

saparlamento qalaqSi 

`nacionaluri moZraobis~ 

fraqciac iSleba! 

maSin ra xdeba? 

_ mainc vimedovneb, rom isini 

moralur mzaobas gamoiCenen da im 

organizaciis fraqcias datoveben, 

romlis wevrebic dRes aRar arian. 

dauSvebelia, fraqcia fiqtiurad 

iyos raRacis gamo. es 

„raRac” arc CemTvis da arc besik 

bregaZisTvis mniSvnelovani ar 

aris, amitom vfiqrobT, rom swori 

iqneba, Tuki uars vityviT rogorc 

formalobaze, ise raRac sabiujeto 

keTildReobaze, rasTanac Cven 

ori isedac ar viyaviT dakavSirebuli. 

xolo rac Seexeba maTi mxridan 

mowodebas, Tavad datoveT 

fraqciao, ubralod, Zalian kuriozulia, 

radgan arsad wavsulvarT. 

saxlSi varT da organizacia, 

romelmac sakrebuloSi mogviyvana, 

ar dagvitovebia. amitom vgegmavT, 

momavalSi „erTiani nacionaluri 

moZraobis” saxeliT ufro aqtiurad 

vimuSaoT. 

_ Tqven acxadebT, rom ar 

tovebT, isini fraqciis daSlis 

pasuxismgeblobas sakuTar Tavze 

ar iReben. ras unda velodoT? 

_ bunebrivia, raRac gadawyvetileba 

SemdgomSi miiReba. amas 

ar uarvyof. mainc vimedovneb, rom 

isini am Rirseul nabijs gadadgamen. 

amjerad, ubralod, molodinis 

reJimSi varT. 

giorgi ukleba 

bzec gadadioda yvelaze rTuli 

saqmianoba, es ar Sexebia. mniSvnelovania 

isic, rom miuxedavad Seqmnili 

situaciisa, xelmZRvanelobisa 

da koordinaciis problema ar 

gvaqvs. 

gayofis procesSic iyo saubari 

da dResac xmamaRla vityvi, rom 

organiziciidan wasuli adamiani 

sadac ar unda iyos da sadac ar 

unda daiwyos saqmianoba, mainc yofili 

„nacionali” iqneba. mimaCnia, 

rom yofil „nacionalad” yofnas 

„nacionalad” yofna sjobs. aseve 

mniSvnelovania is, rom amomrCeveli 

quTaisSic polarizebulia. 

erTi nawili Riad uWers mxars mixeil 

saakaSvils da mis gunds, xolo 

meore nawili _ „ocnebas”. rac Seexeba 

neitralur nawils, romelic 

partiebis saqmianobiT unda gaaqtiurdes, 

samuSao Temaa rogorc 

CvenTvis, ise „ocnebisTvis”, „evropuli 

saqarTvelosTvis” da a. S. 

axlovdeba adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis 

arCevnebi da maqsimalurs 

gavakeTebT, rom wina wlebis 

Sedegebi gavaumjobesoT. faqtia, 

rom winasaarCevno saqmianobas, 

axali organizaciisgan gansxvavebiT, 

plusiT viwyebT. 

_ mocemuli realobidan gamom- 

dinare, „nacionaluri moZraoba”, 

uaxloes xanSi, sakrebuloSi fra- 

qciis saxiT warmodgenili ar 

iqneba. ramdenad SegiSliT es xels 

saqmianobaSi? 

_ bunebrivia, fraqciis gauqmeba 

garkveul problemebs warmoSobs. 

fraqciis arsebobas privilegiebi 

muSaobis procesSi aqvs. 

Tundac mniSvnelovania is, rom 

biuroSi gvyavs warmomadgeneli, an 

SesaZlebloba gvaqvs, nebismieri 

samsaxuris, Tu dawesebulebis xelmZRvaneli 

davibaroT sakrebuloSi. 

marTalia, kanonmdeblobiT 

berketebi gvaqvs, magram, vfiqrobT, 

rom es xarvezad ar davtovoT 

da uSualod sakrebulos sxdomebi 

gamoviyenoT, raTa is kiTxvebi 

gavaJReroT, romlebic mosaxleobas 

awuxebs. 

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daviT gogisvaniZe 

besik bregaZe _ sakrebulos 

deputati, „nacionaluri moZrao- 

bis” wevri: 

_ ra xdeba quTaisis organiza- 

ciaSi gayofis Semdeg, ramdenad 

didia im adamianTa ricxvi, rom- 

lebmac partia datoves da rogor 

aisaxeba es mis samomavlo saqmi- 

anobaze? 

_ pirvel rigSi, uaxloes momavalSi 

registraciis ganaxlebas 

vgegmavT, raTa yvela detali davazustoT. 

quTaisis organizaciaSi 

2000-ze meti wevri iyo, romelTagan 

bevri, Cveni monacemebiT, sazRvargareTaa 

wasuli. amitom gvinda, 

besik bregaZe 

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maka mosiaSvili 

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cxovreba Wadrakia. bevri am- 

bobs, minda viyo paiki, lazieri, mefe, magram aviwydeba, rom am 

Wadraks viRac TamaSobs... 


kiTxvaze, _ gsurT meroba? yvela 

erTnairad iWmuxneba, viTom gaocebul 

saxes iRebs da ukanve 

gibrunebs kiTxvas: 

_ saidan moitane, maka, rom merobaze 

vocnebob? 

_ gavige, _ esec Cemi mokle 

pasuxi. 

_ da radgan xSirad imaze adre 

vigeb ambavs, vidre unda vigebde, 

isinic, TiTqmis yvelani, erTi 

tonalobiT mpasuxoben: 

_ rogorc gundSi gadawyveten; 

an _ rogorc gundi Sejerdeba... 

realurad ki, rom moubrunde 

da vkiTxo, _ aba, gundSi vin xarTmeTqi? 

gvar-saxelebis CamoTvlac 

ki gauWirdebaT. 

erTi, rac udavoa da yvelam 

icis, moqmedi meri meored meri 

veRar iqneba. 

ratom? risTvis? rogor? ra 

emociuri tipaJia. meris mier mi- 

Rebuli gadawyvetilebebis aRsrulebaSi 

ar ereva, Tumca xSirad 

uwevs kritikuli mdgomareobebis, 

„ase rom vTqvaT, mogvareba”, 

aris gamocdili finansisti, 

amave dros, universitetSi gadis 

doqtoranturas. aqvs gamocdileba 

menejmentSi da codna miiRo 

aSS-s kolorados saxelmwifo 

universitetSi. mTvareliSvilis 

lobi, erTi SexedviT, aravin aris, 

magram is komunikabeluri da feisi 

saxea „qarTuli ocnebisTvis”. 

Telavis merobis „ocnebis” mesame 

savaraudo kandidati amJamd 

gubernatoris moadgile, givi metrevelia. 

metreveli uaryofs 

mis SesaZlo kandidatobas, Tumca 

2013 da 2014 wlebSi gaerTianebuli 

municipalitetis gamgebeli 

givi metreveli iyo. yvelaze 

platon kalmaxeliZe 

vin gaxdeba 

2017 wlis 

Telavis 

lazieri?! 

givi metreveli 

rodesac politikuri partiis 

warmomadgenlebs ekiTxebian, Tu 

rogor kandidatebs wamoayenebs 

maTi partia arCevnebze da ra 

kriteriumebs unda akmayofilebdnen 

isini, pasuxi, TiTqmis, yovelTvis 

erTnairia. partiis xelm- 

ZRvanelobis mier arCevanis gakeTebisas 

saWiroa: profesionalizmi, 

cnobadoba da avtoritetuloba, 

simpaTiiTa da ndobiT mosargeble 

adamianebi, muSaobis 

mdidari gamocdileba, adamianTa 

mobilizebisa da xmaTa didi raodenobis 

Segrovebis unari, sazogadoebis 

mier misi miRebis xarisxi, 

brZolisunarianoba, Wkuagoneba, 

kargi ganaTleba, oratoruli 

unar-Cvevebi, aqtiuroba. 

stalinis cnobili gamonaTqvamiT 

Tu vimsjelebT: „araferia 

damokidebuli maTze, vinc xmas 

aZlevs, yvelafers wyveten isini, 

romlebic, am xmebs iTvlian” da 

radgan Cvens qveyanaSi xmas iTvlis 

„ocneba”, „ocnebave” wyvets, 

vin iqneba 2017 wels meri Tu 

gamgebeli... 

2017 weli TviTmmarTvelobis 

arCevnebis welia. politikuri 

amindi gasulma 2016-ma gadawyvita. 

„ocneba” lider poziciaze darCa, 

Tumca xmis mimcemi mainc minusSi 

hyavs da amomrCevelTa raodenobac 

daikarga. rTulia dRes 

imaze fiqri, vin gadaibarebs wlis 

bolos ama Tu im qalaqs. rTulia, 

saqarTveloSi ipovo gamgebeli an 

meri, romliTac Tavisi amomrCeveli 

kmayofilia, ufro sworad, 

rTuli ki ara, warmoudgenelia. 

moqmedi municipalitetis meTaurebi 

Tavis moqalaqeebs arwmuneben, 

rom, ZiriTadad, maTi warumatebloba 

araTu raionis doneze 

arsebulma politikam, aramed didma 

politikam gadawyvita. miuxedavad 

imisa, rom „ocneba” kvlav 

xelisuflebaSia, sakrebuloSi 

vnebaTaRelva gansakuTrebiT 2016 

wlis dekemberSi gamoCnda, _ yofili 

Tanagundelebi aqac daupirispirdnen 

erTmaneTs da saer- 

To interesebic gaqra. jer mzis 

Suqze mxolod orad gayofili 

„nacionaluri moZraoba” Cans, 

Tumca „ocnebis” erTianoba rom 

igive safrTxis qveS aris, amas, 

Tundac, erTi patara axmetis municipalitetis 

sakrebulos umravlesobis 

daSlac ki gvaCvenebs. 

brZola fazaSi Sedis, mTavari 

gamowvevaa, _ vin iqneba Semdegi 

dRis wesrigSi? 

2014 wlis adgilobrivi arCevnebi, 

albaT, imiT gansxvavdeba, 

rom maSin yvelam icoda, TamazaSvilis 

marnis karze SeiZleboda 

dalagebuliyo kandidatTa sia, 

axla ki siis damlageblis misamarTi 

dakargulia. daundobeli 

omi mgluri principebiT ukve mZvinvarebs. 

aravin aravis indobs, 

Tumca daundoblobis miuxedavad 

vin aris arCevnebis oqros urdos 

yaeni, mainc gamocanad rCeba. vin 

gaxdeba ulu Tu narini, amis gagebis 

survils banqos TamaSiT iokeben. 

dabolos, yvelafers mainc 

Wadrakis dafis finali aqvs, _ 

mefec da paikic erT yuTSi rCebian, 

moWadrake ki is pirveli moqalaqea. 

gazafxulidan dafaze darCenili 

RaribaSvilis yvela paiki Wadrakis 

yuTSi gadainacvlebs, Sesabamisad, 

2014 wlis marnis „dedoflebi” 

paikebad iqcevian. TamaSs 

axali wesebi aqvs. wesebi ucnobia, 

SerCeva da biografia jer _ amouxsneli, 

kandidatisTvis dasakmayofilebeli 

kriteriumebi ki burusiT 

moculia. kiTxva kvlav 

aqtualuria, _ vin gaxdeba 

lazieri? 

ise rogorc danarCeni 

sxva qalaqeebic, Telavic 

Zalian patara qalaqia. aq 

xmamaRla amboben Tu ar 

amboben, yvelam icis, ra 

xdeba adamianTa gulebSi, 

vin raze ocnebobs. asea axlac. 

vin ocnebobs Telavis 

„ocnebis” lazierobaze, 

cnobilia. 

Tengiz mTvareliSvili 

daaSava? amaze pasuxebi, albaT, 

saqmes Sors waiyvans _ veRar iqneba 

da morCa! Tumca sanamde saqme 

morCeba, manamde mainc aqvs erTi 

axsna ambavs: RaribaSvilis Telavuri 

samegobro platonisTvis 

axla ukve ucxoa, mis axloblebs 

arsad aRar asaqmebs, uaresic _ 

maTi CamoSoreba imaze adre daiwyo, 

vidre amas sTxovdnen... erTi 

SexedviT, rasac platons veravin 

daswamebs, merobisas fuli ar 

ukeTebia, Tumca winasaarCevno 

mTavari dapirebebidan bevri isev 

dapirebad darCeba 2017 wlis bolosTvis. 

moqmedi meri Teatrisa 

da muzeumis reabilitacias ver 

daibralebs, radgan maT reabilitacias 

uSualod saministroebi 

kurireben. 

da Tu ara platoni, maS, vin 

iqneba lazieri? 

levan liluaSvili Telavis 

meris erT-erTi moadgilea. Zalian 

xSirad is Cans ekranze da sapasuxismgeblo 

bevr gadawyvetilebazec 

Tavad akeTebs ganmartebebs. 

liluaSvili „ocnebis” Telavis 

organizaciis aRmasrulebeli 

mdivania, platoni ki mxolod 

erTi welia, rac partiis wevri 

gaxda. liluaSvilis avtoriteti 

da gavlena TelavSi maRalia. 

da radgan mxolod Telavuri 

gavlenebi ar aris xolme sakmarisi, 

aqve unda iTqvas, rom liluaSvilis 

kadrpersona „ocnebis” 

saTavo ofisSi miRebulic aris 

da mowonebulic. Sesabamisad, Tu 

2017 wlis adgilobriv arCevnebze 

liluaSvili Telavis merobis kandidatad 

dasaxeldeba, aravis 

gaukvirdeba. amasTan erTad, liluaSvili 

uSualod socialur 

mimarTulebas kurirebs. es er- 

Tob mimzidveli Cans kandidatisTvis, 

radgan swored mas aqvs 

xSiri urTierToba masebTan, rac 

imas niSnavs, rom misTvis ufro 

advili gaxdeba amomrCevlis 

gulis mogeba. 

Tumca ara marto 

liluaSvili... aseve aravis 

gaukvirdeba, rom 

lazieris poziciaze 

kandidatad Tengiz 

mTvareliSvili vixiloT. 

mTvareliSvili 

mkvidri Telavelia. 

moqmedi merisgan gansxvavebiT 

vicemeri mSvidi 

da naklebad mZime 

levan liluaSvili 

rTuli gadabarebis periodic 

manve gaiara. Sesabamisad, metrevels 

martivi axsna aqvs: „saqme icis”. 

„ocneba” am sam kandidatze 

akeTebs ZiriTad arCevans. visze 

dadebs finalSi fsons, ucnobia. 

ratom ver SeZlebs moqmedi meri 

kvlav kenWisyras, albaT, am 

Temaze an sakuTar TavTan, an sus- 

Tan ufro unda gaarkvios pasuxi. 

yvelafris miuxedavad, 2017 wlis 

bolos TelavSi iseve mougvarebeli 

darCeba Sida gzebis reabilitacia, 

wyalmomarageba, mawanwala 

cxovelTa TavSesafris gaxsna, 

ukanono mSeneblobebis aRkveTa, 

qalaqis iersaxis damaxinjeba, municipaluri 

transportis ararseboba, 

garevaWrobis mouwesrigebloba, 

qalaqSi gazrdili antisanitaria, 

amas daemateba 2017 

wlis biujetiT gaTvaliswinebuli 

socialurad daucveli moqalaqeebisTvis 

erTjeradi 50- 

lariani daxmarebis gauqmeba 

(romelic biujets, mxolod da 

mxolod, 42 000 lari ujdeboda, 

rac saerTo administraciuli 

xarjis erT meaTeds Seadgens). 

ucxo aravin mova TelavSi, 

mTavaria, vinc mova, axla is ar 

gaerTos meris saTamaSoebiT! Torem 

stalinis Tqmis ar iyos, xalxi 

xmas vis miscems, eg ki ar aris 

Cvens droSi, Turme, mTavari, 

aRarc xmis damTvlelia mTavari, 

mTavari axla is aris, vis gadawyveten 

Telavis lazierad SuSis 

sasaxleSi. 


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nino tabaRua 


wlis dasawyisSi daanonsebuli aqcizis gadasaxadis zrda 

dRes ukve mxolod anonsad aRar darCa. igi aqtiurad aisaxa 

avtomobilebze, sawvavze, Tambaqoze, alkoholur sasmelebze 

_ samomxmareblo bazarze. ara TeTrebiT, aramed ramdenime 

lariT gaizarda fasebi produqtebze, romlis yoveldRiurad 

gamoyenebas sazogadoeba aqtiuradaa miCveuli. 

gansakuTrebiT rTuli situaciaa 

sawvavisa da Tambaqos 

SemTxvevaSi: 

1 tona benzinze aqcizis Rirebulebam 

250-dan 500 laramde 

moimata. 

dizelze _ 150-dan 400 laramde, 

gazze _ 80-dan 200-mde. 

gaZvirda mowevac: Tambaqos 

momxmareblebisTvis igi konkretuli 

brendis mixedviT meryeobs 

da 60 TeTridan 1 laramde 

izrdeba. 

mTavrobis ekonomikuri gundis 

gaTvlebiT gadasaxadebis 

zrda avtomobilebze moTxovnas 

25%-iT Seamcirebs, biujeti 

ki Tambaqos aqcizis zrdas- 

Tan erTad damatebiT 45 milion 

lars miiRebs _ es moklevadian 

periodSi, magram rogor aisaxeba 

biujetze Semcirebuli momxmareblebis 

raodenoba, Sesabamisad 

Semcirebuli Semosavlebi 

kompaniidan, es ukve kiTxvis 

niSnebs badebs da, ra Tqma 

unda, momavlisTvis biujetze 

dadebiTad asaxvis perspeqtivas 

ar iZleva. 

sazogadoeba calsaxad 

uCivis samomxmareblo kalaTaze 

gazrdil fasebs, amis fonze ki 

imedis sxivi, cxadia, karga xans 

ar gamoCndeba, radgan wlis 

dasawyisSi gazrdili aqcizis 

gadasaxadis Semcirebis tendencia 

ukve mmarTveli gundisadmi 

undoblobis gamocxadebas 

niSnavs da amas Tavad, ra Tqma 

unda, ar gaakeTeben. 

aqeT navTobproduqtebis importiorTa 

kavSiris Tavmjdomare 

vano mTvralaSvilis 

TqmiT, momatebuli aqcizis gadasaxadis 

tarifis sacalo qselSi 

asaxva, saSualod, 20-25 Te- 

Tris farglebSi unda moxdes. 

xolo is, Tu romeli operatori 

kompania rodis, an ra doziT 

moumatebs fasebs _ uSualod 

kompaniebis gadasawyvetia. mTvralaSvils 

arc imis Tqma Seu- 

Zlia dazustebiT, rom aqcizis 

gadasaxadidan gamomdinare fasis 

mateba amiT damTavrdeba, 

Sesabamisad, meti unda gadavixadoT 

msoflioSi mimdinare 

procesebis gaumjobesebisa da 

misi Cvens samomxmareblo kalaTaze 

asaxvis imediT. 

„qronika+” aRniSnul sakiTx- 

Tan dakavSirebiT eqspertebis 

mosazrebiT dainteresda. gTavazobT 

rogorc iuristis, as- 

eve ekonomikuri eqspertebis 

mosazrebasa da prognozebs: 

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akaki CargeiSvili _ biznses- 

samarTlis specialisti: 

_ situacia Semdegia: 2017 

wlidan meti ocneba xalxs! 

Sesabamisad, aqcizis 

gadasaxadi gaizarda, 

TiTqmis, 

yvelaferze 

_ es Seexeba 

sawvavs, 

saavtomobilo 

transports, 

marjvenasaWian avtomobilebs, 

romlebic qveyanaSi Semodis, 

Tambaqos, alkoholur 

sasmels. garda amisa, fizikur 

pirebs, romlebic qonebis gadasaxads 

ixdian (is pirebi, romelTa 

qoneba da Semosavali 40 

000 laris zemoTaa, avseben deklaracias 

da yoveli wlis 15 

noembramde, uZravi qonebis 

Rirebulebidan gamomdinare, 

ixdian 1%-mde gadasaxads, anu 

gaaCnia, ra qoneba gaqvs da, Sesabamisad, 

gaaCnia, ramdeni gaqvs 

Semosavali _ amis mixedviTac 

emateba gadasaxadi). adreuli 

sistemiT isini arsebuli uZravi 

qonebis Rirebulebidan gamomdinare 

ixdidnen, am SemTxvevaSi 

ki, garda uZravi qonebisa, 

avtomobilis sakuTrebaSi 

yofnis gadasaxadi daemataT. 

_ rac Seexeba saSemosavlo 

20%-ian gadasaxads, misi gazr- 

da Tu igegmeba? 

_ diax, es gadasaxadi aris 

20% da ekonomikuri Tavisuflebis 

Sesaxeb saqarTvelos 

oficialuri kanonis mixedviT, 

am tipis gadasaxadis gazrda 

saWiroebs saerTo-sayovelTao 

referendums, aqedan gamomdinare, 

Tu dRevadel konstituciaSi 

am sakiTxze raime arsebiTi 

cvlileba Seva, mxolod 

am SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba. aq aqcizi 

gamonaklisia, romelic 

ukve gamoiyenes. mas ar sWirdeba 

referendumi da arc Catarebula. 

axali gadasaxadis SemoRebas, 

an zrdas ki referendumi 

sWirdeba. amitom Tuki konstituciuri 

Canaweri Seicvleba da 

ekonomikuri Tavisuflebis Sesaxeb 

specialur kanonSi raime 

cvlileba Seva, maSin parlaments 

realuri SesaZlebloba 

eqneba, rom axali gadasaxadi SemoiRos, 

an arsebuli gazardos. 

_ am konkretuli SemTxve- 

visken xom ar midis gza? 

_ samwuxarod, sakostitucio 

komisis muSaobas Zalian aqtiurad 

ver vadevneb Tvals, magram 

paata SeSeliZe 

gadasaxadebi 

gaizarda, ra elis 

biujets da rigiTi 

moqalaqis jibes? 

rasac vadevneb, iqidan vici, 

rom, jerjerobiT, saubaria 

adamianis uflebebis nawilze 

da mas jer ar gascdenia am komisiis 

msjeloba, muSaoba (es 

meore Tavia). rac Seexeba gadasaxadebs, 

es ukve Semdgom, konstituciis 

me-6, me-7 TavebSia 

mocemuli, amitom jer ganxilulic 

ar yofila, rom vicodeT. 

Tu raime ganxilvebi daiwyeba, 

gadasaxadebis SemcirebasTan 

dakavSirebiT CemTvisac Zalian 

saintereso iqneba. 

daviT aslaniSvili _ ekono- 

mikis doqtori: 

_ rogor aisaxeba gazrdili 

gadasaxadebi qveynis biujetze? 

_ aqcizi Tu pirdapiri Semosavali, 

moklevadian efeqtSi 

biujetSi Seva, Tumca Tu es 

tendencia grZelvadian periodSi 

gagrZelda da mosaxleobaze 

wnexma imata, maSin ukve, 

ra Tqma unda, es biujetze negatiurad 

imoqmedebs, momxmareblebi 

Semcirdeba, magram Cven 

ar viciT, ra moxdeba aq _ Tu 

navTobzea saubari, navTobis 

fasi zemoT wava Tu qvemoT? _ 

ar viciT. valutis kursi aiwevs 

Tu daiwevs? _ ar viciT. 

axla amerikasa da OPEC-s Soris 

navTobze didi omi midis. 

rac trampma gamoacxada, mas 

Semdeg, SeiZleba, navTobis fasi 

mkveTrad davardes. ase rom 

moxdes, aqcizis efeqti iseTi 

damangreveli da negatiuri ar 

iqneba grZelvadian perspeqtivaSic 

ki, rogorsac vvaraudobT, 

magram aq axla mxolod empiriul 

faqtebs vikvlevT, Cven 

`rogor SeiZleba, galarebis programa iyos 

daZalebis, SezRudvebisa da subsidirebis 

xarjze? - absurdulia, warmoudgenelia, Zalian 

ar unda gesmodes am sferosi, rom es daijero, 

an unda ityuebode. an ar gesmiT, an korufcia 

gaqvT, sxva variantebi ar aris! viwro wre 

raRac sargebels naxulobs, es bankebisTvisaa 

gakeTebuli. cvlilebebis paketia, romelic, 

Cemi azriT, korufciaa da sxva araferi. kursi 

gaumjobeda? - ara!~ 

ar viciT, movlenebis ganvi- 

Tareba rogori SeiZleba iyos. 

Tu navTobis fasi da dolaric 

gaizarda, maSin saSineleba 

iqneba! ra Tqma unda, Tu yvelafers 

zrda mohyva, grZelvadian 

periodSi es moxmarebis 

mkveTr Semcirebas gamoiwvevs 

da, saboloo jamSi, biujetSi 

Semodinebis zrdasac ki. ramdenime 

es, erTmaneTisgan damoukidebeli 

faqtori, rogor 

imoqmedebs grZelvadian periodSi 

faswarmoqmnaze, CvenTvis 

ucnobia da trendis danaxva sakmaod 

rTuli da bundovania. 

Cven ar viciT, ra politikas 

mihyveba aSS? gazrdis Tu vera 

navTobis warmoebas Tavis teritoriaze? 

rogor imoqmedebs 

es mTlianad navTobis fasze 

msoflioSi? ra mouva aSS dolars? 

ra mouva lars calke? da 

amaT Tu davajamebT, raRac suraTs 

miviRebdiT. swored esaa 

dRevandeli da momavali situacia. 

_ rogori iqneba Tqveni 

prognozi? 

_ kursis prognozi, pirdapir 

da uSualod, larizaciis programazea 

damokidebuli. axla 

azri ar aqvs amaze saubars, 17 

marts morCeba es programa da 

gveqneba Tu ara misi Sedegi, 

xalxma gaalara Tu ara?.. 

refinansirebis sesxma imata, 

aman damatebiTi faqtori Semoitana, 

es programa fizikur pirebzea 

damokidebuli, adamianebze. 

bankebi, ra Tqma unda, 

dainteresebulebi arian, radgan 

nebismier sesxs exeba, ro- 

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melic Camowerilia, an saeWvod 

miiCneoda. es yvelaferi imas 

niSnavs, rom bankebi valdebulebi 

arian, gacemuli sesxis 

sanacvlod moagrovon da am 

sesxebis rezervi Seavson, anu 

Tu 100 000 lari gasca, kidev 

meore amdeni unda gasces. e. i. 

ormagad gaucia es Tanxa, winaaRmdeg 

SemTxvevaSi e.b.-sTan 

problemebi eqneba licenziis 

kuTxiT. bankebisTvis axali larizacia 

niSnavs, rom axali sesxia 

da is dakarguli rezervebi 

SeiZleba gaaTavisuflos. umjobesdeba 

bankebis saxelfaso 

mdgomareoba. undaT, maTma 

klienturam larSi sesxebi daakonvertos, 

amitom is banki, romelsac 

es Zalian sWirdeba, Seecdeba, 

konkurentuli pirobebi 

SesTavazos klienturas refinansirebis 

sesxTan dakavSirebiT 

da me vici, rom bazarze 8- 

9%-Sic kia refinansirebis procenti, 

miuxedavad imisa, rom 

realuri 11%-ia. bazarze qveviT 

sTavazoben konkretuli 

struqturebi procentebs, radgan 

maT es awyobT da gasagebic 

aris. bunebrivia, biznesia da 

moxmarebasac awyobs. 

davelodoT 17-20 martis movlenebs, 

400 milion dolarzea 

saubari da es, TiTqmis, erTi miliardi 

laria. sakmaod didi 

Tanxaa. 

_ gagrZeldeba gadasaxadis 

msgavsi zrdis tempi Tu Sem- 

cirdeba? 

_ xom ar gaauqmeben xval am 

gadasaxads? maSin es undoblobis 

gamocxadebas niSnavs mTavrobisTvis. 

Tu am ndobis sakiTxi 

dgeba, es ukve sxva ambavia. 

samTavrobo, ekonomikuri politikis 

mimarT msgavsi ukmayofileba, 

xalxis mxridan, undoblobas 

niSnavs. amas ukve samTavrobo 

cvlilebebi mohyveba. amitom 

ara mgonia, Semcirebisken 

wavides. 

paata SeSeliZe _ axali eko- 

nomikuri skolis direqtori, 

ekonomisti: 

_ sabiujeto Semosavlebze 

rogor SeiZleba aisaxos gazrdili 

gadasaxadebi da gaZvire- 

buli produqcia? 

_ mosaxleoba isedac gaWirvebul 

mdgomareobaSia da rodesac 

mas Zalian gauWirda, yvelanair 

ekonomias cdilobs. axali 

damatebiTi tvirTi, rogoric 

benzinze, manqanebsa da Tambaqoze 

aqcizis gadasaxadis matebaa, 

seriozuli dartyma iyo. 

bevri, Cemi CaTvliT, ekonomiurad 

cdilobs moZraobas. rasac 

axla vuyureb, moxmareba 

mkveTrad Semcirda. logikurad 

rom vimsjeloT, naklebi Tanxa 

Seva biujetSi, iseve rogorc 

TviTon kompaniebSi Seva naklebi 

_ Sesabamisad, orives daakldeba. 

kompaniebma ara mxolod 

sabiujeto, aramed sxva gadasaxadebic 

xom unda gadaixadon, 

iqac ver gadaixdian. igivea sigaretebze, 

bevri ambobs, rom 

Tavs daanebebs, an sxva, iafian 

Tambaqoze gadava. mesmis, rom 

advili ar aris, magram xalxi 

gamosavals eZebs. 

_ raime sxva gadasaxadis 

gazrdaze xom ar flobT in- 

formacias? 

_ sxvas verafers gazrdian, 

radgan, sabednierod, ekonomikuri 

Tavisuflebis Sesaxeb 

aqti gvaqvs, kidev kargi. winswrebad 

gavTvaleT maSin, rom, 

adre Tu gvian, aseTi problema 

dadgeboda da es axla dagvWirda 

(zemoT xsenebuli referendumis 

principi), amis gareSe ver 

gazrdian sxva gadasaxadebs, Zalian 

gauWirdebaT gatana, eg 

rom ar zRudavdes, karga xania, 

raime Seicvleboda. es ki gzaa, 

rom Tavi davicvaT im mocemulobisgan, 

rac gvaqvs da Sei- 

Zleba gvelodes. 

_ samomavlo prognozi ra 

iqneba, SeiZleba, fasebi Seicva- 

los, an dastabilurdes? 

_ marto gadasaxadebze saubari 

arasakmarisi iqneba, radgan 

araerTxel miTqvams, is xalxi, 

vinc dRes gadawyvetilebebs 

iRebs, inteleqtualurad 

ar aris mzad, realurad Secvalos 

raime, konkretulad, ekonomikisadmi 

damokidebuleba. 

sinamdvileSi ekonomikas marTva 

ki ar sWirdeba, marTvaze uaris 

Tqma, anu ganTavisufleba sWirdeba, 

amaT es interesi da xedva 

ar gaaCniaT. 

TviTon faqti, rom wamowyebuli 

programebi, rac satrabaxo 

iyo, araferi muSaobs da 

ukan daxeva uwevs, imas niSnavs, 

rom isini cdebodnen. jandacvis 

programas xedavT? rasac 

akeTebdnen, iman ar imuSava. ase- 

Ti raRacebis cvlilebisTvis 

inteleqtualuri cvlilebaa 

saWiro, magram es fizikur cvlilebasTanaa 

dakavSirebuli. 

aseTi damokidebulebiT bevri 

araferi Seicvleba. 

magaliTisTvis, rogor Sei- 

Zleba, erTma kacma aawyos sistema, 

iZaxos, yvelaferi kargadaao 

da mere aRmoaCinos, rom, 

Turme, qurdobaa, momsaxureba 

ar varga, saavadmyofoebi mzad 

ar arian pacientebis mosamsaxureblad, 

xarisxi gafuWda, yvelas 

ver afinanseben, valebi 

aqvT, es yvelaferi axla dainaxa? 

yvela xvdeboda magis garda. 

e. i. man sxva saqme unda ake- 

Tos. 

Zireuli cvlilebebis gareSe 


`situacia Semdegia: 2017 wlidan meti 

ocneba xalxs! Sesabamisad, aqcizis 

gadasaxadi gaizarda, TiTqmis, yvelaferze - 

es Seexeba sawvavs, saavtomobilo 

transports, marjvenasaWian avtomobilebs, 

romlebic qveyanaSi Semodis, Tambaqos, 

alkoholur sasmels. garda amisa, fizikur 

pirebs, romlebic qonebis gadasaxads ixdian 

(is pirebi, romelTa qoneba da Semosavali 

40 000 laris zemoTaa, avseben deklaracias 

da yoveli wlis 15 noembramde, uZravi 

qonebis Rirebulebidan gamomdinare, ixdian 

1%-mde gadasaxads, anu gaaCnia, ra qoneba 

gaqvs da, Sesabamisad, gaaCnia, ramdeni gaqvs 

Semosavali - amis mixedviTac emateba 

gadasaxadi). adreuli sistemiT isini 

arsebuli uZravi qonebis Rirebulebidan 

gamomdinare ixdidnen, am SemTxvevaSi ki, 

garda uZravi qonebisa, avtomobilis 

sakuTrebaSi yofnis gadasaxadi daemataT~ 

me Sedegs ver vxedav, raRac 

principze orientirebulebi 

unda iyvnen, rom win wavidnen. 

me aseT princips vTavazobdi: es 

aris ekonomikuri Tavisufleba 

ramdenime indeqsis mixedviT _ 

davisaxoT mizani, davnomroT 

da rac yvelaze metad saWiroa, 

gavakeToT is, ekonomikis Tavisuflebis, 

msoflio konkurentianobis, 

Doing Buisness-is indeqsi, 

4-5 msgavsi indeqsi, romelic 

saerTaSorisoa da Tavis me- 

TodologiaSi weria, ra aris 

gasakeTebeli, waikiTxe da Tqvi. 

aq gvaqvs Sansi, movxvdeT _ imuSave 

am mimarTulebiT. cxadia, 

erT weliwadSi ver miiRweva, 

magram miznad xom unda daisaxo? 

magaliTad, „ekonomikuri 

akaki CargeiSvili 

Tavisuflebis” indeqsSi Cven 

varT me-5 adgilze da Zalian 

bevri rame gavakeTeT (Cvenma 

gundma, piradad), swored Cven 

vakeTebT mag indeqss saqarTveloSi, 

avuxseniT kidevac, ras 

niSnavda es, popularizacia gavuwieT 

da axla am mTavrobasac 

ki esmis konkretuli indeqsis 

mniSvneloba. 

es iqneboda yvelaze Rirseuli 

gamosvla am situaciidan, ra 

Tqma unda, politikuri partia 

umravlesobaSia, xelebs ver daibans 

da wava, amitom unda Tqvs: 

aseTi idea gvaqvs, kinkretuli 

gezi, orientiri aviRoT da amis 

Ssruleba profesionalebs gadavabaroT 

_ amas vTavazobdi. 

mesmis, rom Znelia, magram aucilebeli. 

rogor warmogidgeniaT, gu- 

Sin rom adamiani geubnebodaT, 

yvelaferi kargadaa, kursi dastabilurdeba, 

momavali optimisturiao 

da Sedegi am dros _ 

nuli. sazogadoebaSi mizani da 

ndoba unda arsebobdes. es adamianebi 

TeTrze Savs ambobdnen, 

mcdar mosazrebebs gvawodebdnen 

da axla amaTgan raRac cvlilebebi 

rom modis, ver warmovidgen, 

rom gaamarTlebs. 

_ galarebis programa mo- 

axdens Sedegs valutis kursze 

da, Sesabamisad, mosaxleobis 

jibeze? 

_ rame igrZeniT? sisulelea es 

programa da Sesabamisadac aisaxa. 

rogor SeiZleba, galarebis programa 

iyos daZalebis, SezRudvebisa 

da subsidirebis xarjze? _ 

absurdulia, warmoudgenelia, 

Zalian ar unda gesmodes am sferosi, 

rom es daijero, an unda 

ityuebode. an ar gesmiT, an korufcia 

gaqvT, sxva variantebi ar 

aris! viwro wre raRac sargebels 

naxulobs, es bankebisTvisaa gakeTebuli. 

cvlilebebis paketia, 

romelic, Cemi azriT, korufciaa 

da sxva araferi. kursi gaumjobeda? 

_ ara! 

gadasaxadebi gaizarda. momavali 

arc ise saxarbielo Cans, 

e. i. grZelvadian periodSi biujets 

sakmaod didi safrTxe 

emuqreba. Cvens jibeze ki es safrTxe 

ukve asaxulia. es dasawyisia. 

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gela mamulaSvili 

599 45 50 26 

saqarTvelos okupirebuli 

teritoriebidan iZulebiT gadaadgilebul pirTa, ltolvil- 

Ta da gansaxlebis saministro devnilTa nawilisTvis 45-lariani 

daxmarebis gauqmebas apirebs. amis Sesaxeb „erTiani nacio- 

naluri moZraobis” warmomadgenlebma _ nugzar wiklaurma da 

beso weredianma isaubres. 

„Cven xelSi Cagvivarda dokumenti, 

sadac aRniSnulia, rom saministro 

apirebs, dawios Semosavlis 

1250-lariani zRvari, aseve 

daxmareba Seuwydes im pirebs, romlebic 

ar arian dabadebulebi 

afxazeTsa da cxinvalis regionSi 

da maT, romlebic qorwinebaSi imyofebian 

aradevnilebTan. 

am dokumentis amoqmedeba Zalian 

mZime humanitarul problemebsa 

da socialur kriziss gamoiwvevs, 

radgan devnilTa umravlesoba 

swored am Semweobebzea 

damokidebuli. 

sruliad SesaZlebeli iqneboda, 

xelisuflebas ezruna biurokratiuli 

xarjebis Semcirebaze 

da am SemTxvevaSi aranairi 

safrTxe am programas ar daemuqreboda. 

samwuxarod, Cveni xelisuflebis 

ucodinarobam, arakompetenturobam, 

korumpirebulobam 

yvelaferi gaakeTa, rom sazogadoebis 

gansakuTrebiT daucveli 

nawili _ devnilebi _ aseTi 

mZime safrTxis qveS dadgnen”. 

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lela guledani 


„erTiani nacionaluri” moZraoba 

devnilTa saministros mouwodebs, 

xeli aiRos aseTi gadawyvetilebis 

sisruleSi moyvanaze. 

„qronika+”-s esaubreba „dev- 

nilTa partiis” Tavmjdomare _ 

lela la guledani: 

_ qalbatono lela, rogor 

afasebT mosalodnel reformas? 

_ aseTi strategia, Tavis droze, 

„nacionalebma” Seqmnes, rom 

devnilebs aRniSnuli daxmareba 

gauqmebodaT. maSinac yvelaferi 

aqeTken midioda. sxva sakiTxia, 

dRevandel saministroze ras visaubreb. 

_ maSin, amas riT xsnidnen? 

_ aRniSnuli strategiis SeqmnaSi 

ucxoelebi, saerTaSoriso 

donori organizaciebi CarTuli 

iyvnen, magram es formaloba iyo 

da iseTi dokumenti Seqmnes, rogoric 

maSindel mmarTvelebs awyobdaT. 

isini pirdapir ambobdnen, 

rom devnilebis gansaxlebis politika 

unda gagrZelebuliyo, 

raTa am gziT „fuli ekeTebinaT”. 

Zalian kargad viciT, 2008-Sic 

ramxela Tanxebi daixarja. 

_ magram gansaxlebis politi- 

ka devnilTa Semweobis gauqmebas 

`saministro 

devnilTa 

nawilisTvis 

45-lariani 

daxmarebis 

gauqmebas 

apirebs~ 

`me piradad amis meti Semosavali ar gamaCnia. dRes umuSevari var, Cemi da 

sami bavSvis 180 lari maqvs, iciT, rogor velodebi am daxmarebas Tvidan 

Tvemde? raRac saqmes xom mikeTebs? davrCebi yovelgvari Semweobis gareSe. 

me rom aseT dReSi var (partias Semowiruloba ar gaaCnia), amxela 

pasuxismgebloba makisria (sam Svils marto vzrdi), sxvam raRa unda 

gaakeTos? kidev kargi da mexmareba, magram rodemde? samuSaos verafriT 

vpoulob. verc partias vafinanseb. saarCevnod `qarTul ocnebas~ uangarod 

davexmare, raTa xelisuflebis Signidan ameRo pasuxismgebloba. ramdeni 

welia, opoziciaSi varT da veranairi Sedegi ver davdeT. TviTon 

saxelmwifosac gamovadgebi da sakuTar Tavsac realizebas gavukeTeb-meTqi. 

vin ar daasaqmes, me es ver SevZeli, magram es sxva Temaa~ 

xom ar gulisxmobda? 

_ iq pirdapir weria, rom Semweoba 

saWiroebidan gamomdinare 

darCeboda. samwuxarod, „qarTuli 

ocnebis” mTavrobam es strategia 

ar Secvala, midgomebic 

igive darCa. yvelaferi isev ucxoelebis 

direqtivebiT xorcieldeba. 

sameTvalyureo sabWoSi 

Tavs aravin Segayofinebs. am fonze 

ratom iTxoven, Tundac, donorebi 

Semweobis gauqmebas, CemTvis 

gaugebaria. 

roca evropaSi Cadixar, devnilis 

statusis gaTvaliswinebiT, 

Semweoba pirdapir geniSneba. iq 

aravin gekiTxeba, es daxmareba 

gWirdeba Tu _ ara? maSin qveyana- 

Si ekonomika ise unda iyos ganvi- 

Tarebuli da socialuri mdgomareoba 

im doneze gvqondes, rom 

dasaqmeba udides problemas ar 

warmoadgendes. ki, kedlebi daukanone, 

magram ra Wamos adamianma? 

me piradad amis meti Semosavali 

ar gamaCnia. dRes umuSevari 

var, Cemi da sami bavSvis 180 lari 

maqvs, iciT, rogor velodebi am 

daxmarebas Tvidan Tvemde? raRac 

saqmes xom mikeTebs? davrCebi 

yovelgvari Semweobis gareSe. 

me rom aseT dReSi var (partias 

Semowiruloba ar gaaCnia), amxela 

pasuxismgebloba makisria (sam 

Svils marto vzrdi), sxvam raRa 

unda gaakeTos? kidev kargi da 

mexmareba, magram rodemde? samuSaos 

verafriT vpoulob. verc 

partias vafinanseb. 

saarCevnod „qarTul ocnebas” 

uangarod davexmare, raTa xelisuflebis 

Signidan ameRo pasuxismgebloba. 

ramdeni welia, 

opoziciaSi varT da veranairi Sedegi 

ver davdeT. TviTon saxelmwifosac 

gamovadgebi da sakuTar 

Tavsac realizebas gavukeTebmeTqi. 

vin ar daasaqmes, me es ver 

SevZeli, magram es sxva Temaa. 

mokled, devnilTa daxmarebis 

gauqmeba erTgvari politikuri 

nebaa, radgan es saxelmwifo 

strategiaSi adrec iyo da dResac 

asea im fonze, roca xalxs, 

TviTon devnilebs, arafers ekiTxebian. 

„nacionalebmac” gaixsenon, 

rogor yridnen adamianebs avtobusebidan... 

es saministro 

xalxs pativiscemiT mainc epyroba 

da normalurad mainc elaparakeba. 

komunikaciac ukeTesia da 

Sedareba ar aris. 

_ mkiTxvelisTvis davazus- 

toT, gansaxlebis SemTxvevaSi 

devnilebs statusi xom unarCun- 

debaT? 

_ RmerTma nu qnas, rom binis 

gadacemis SemTxvevaSi statusic 

gaauqmon, radgan dasabrunebeli 

aRaravin gveyoleba da amiT afxazeTis 

sakiTxic erTxel da samudamod 

damTavrdeba. 

rac Seexeba daxmarebas, es sakiTxi 

e. w. saWiroebidan gamomdinare 

wydeba. am sakiTxSi viTom 

saerTaSoriso mrCevlebis winadadebas 

eyrdnobian. ras niSnavs 

saWiroeba? maSin individualurad 

imuSaon yvela ojaxTan da 

daadginon, vis sWirdeba es 45 

lari da vis _ ara. Tan kargac 

iciT, es 45 laric ris xarjze 

gaormagda, erTi jibidan erT devnils 

amouRes da meores Caudes. 

anu dRes 1250-lariani xelfasi 

visac aqvs, mas 45 lari aRar eZleva. 

_ am xelisuflebam ratom ar 

Secvala winamorbedis strate- 

gia? 

_ arc erTi saxelmwifo uwyebis 

strategia am qveyanaSi ar Secvlila. 

da Tu igive xedviT xelmZRvanelob, 

maSin ra opozicia 

xar? axali xedviT xom unda moxvide? 

mesmis, rom saxelmwifos 

gauWirda da Tanxebis gamoTavisufleba 

xdeba. biurokratiuli 

aparati gazrdilia, saakaSvilis 

drosac didi iyo. CvenTan 

saxelmwifo uwyebebSi, daaxloebiT, 

26% muSaobs, roca evropaSi 

es maCvenebeli erTi da ori procentia. 

rodesac saxelmwifo institutebi 

Senze bevrad Zlieria, 

mas verafriT moerevi. aRniSnuli 

biurokratiuli aparati, faqtobrivad, 

igive darCa. xarjebma, piriqiT, 

moimata, Statebi gaizarda 

da a. S. aman biujetis deficiti 

Seqmna, anu Tanxebis gamoTavisufleba 

midis. axla mTavrobis 

davalebaa, rom yvela uwyebidan 

as-asi kaci gauSvan, TviTon 

subarmac gaaTavisufla adamianebi. 

devnilebis gansaxlebis biujeti 

mwiria da SeiZleba, ministri 

gamouval mdgomareobaSic iyos. 

arc adre iyo kargi mdgomareoba, 

subelians 10 milioni hqonda da 

dRes biujeti 70 milionia, magram 

es Tanxa arsebul saWiroebebTan 

mimarTebiT didi araferia, imdeni 

problemaa devnil mosaxleoba- 

Si mosagvarebeli. am fonze verc 

sesxs iReben, radgan isedac 9- 

miliardiani vali gvaqvs. magram 

is mainc Tqvan, sad surT gamoTavisuflebuli 

Tanxebis gaSveba? 

isev jibidan jibeSi gadatana xdeba, 

Tu ras uzamen am Tanxas? devnilebisTvis 

sxva ram keTdeba, Tu 

am fuls isev gansaxlebaSi gauSveben? 

am biujetis monitoringic 

Zalian rTulia. devnilebSic 

konsolidirebuli Zala ar aris 

da maT Canafiqri advilad gauvaT. 

devnilma rac unda ixmauros, am 

procesze gavlenas mainc ver 

moaxdens. rogorc vxedav, es, faqtobrivad, 

gadawyvetili, sakiTxia. 

aqeT xalxi gaRizianebulia, _ 

amdeni manqana, premia, saxelfaso 

danamati gaicema... sajarod axsnan 

mainc reformis arsi, Cveni pretenzia 

swored es aris. Cumad nu 

keTdeba. xalxisTvis aqamdec unda 

eTqvaT, rom gviWirs da amis gakeTebas 

vapirebTo. 

_ fiqrobT, rom es saTanadod 

ar xdeba? 

_ Woris doneze viciT, rom 

raRac dokumenti ukve gamzadebulia 

da devnilebma mis Sesaxeb 

konkretuli araferi ician. dokumentis 

SemuSavebisas saqmis kursSi 

xom unda viyoT? ratom unda 

viWoraoT? e. i. aRniSnuli sakiTxi 

xistad unda gadawydes. maT- 

Tvisac ukeTesia, rom amas erTi 

ambavi ar mohyves. yvela uwyebas 

xalxTan meti komunikacia unda 

hqondes. msgavsi gadawyvetilebebi 

centralizebulad modis da 

masze veranair zegavlenas ver 

vaxdenT. Tanxebs rogor daxarjaven, 

keTili inebon da agvixsnan. 

_ xarjebi axseneT, ra danaxarjebi 

unda Seamciros xelisu- 

flebam, rom devnilTa aRniSnul 

Semweobas ar Seexos? 

_ es daxmareba 100 milioni 

lari jdeba, biujetisTvis imxe- 

28 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.

la Tanxa ar aris, rom amiT saswauli 

zarali ganicados. qveyana- 

Si uamravi arafrismkeTebeli biurokratiuli 

struqturaa, aTasobiT 

ssip-ia da gaauqmon, raRa, 

maincdamainc, sacodav xalxs uuqmeben 

am mizerul 45 lars? bolos 

da bolos, Tu am saministros 

sakmarisi finansuri resursi 

ar gaaCnia, mTavroba maqsimalurad 

unda exmarebodes, raTa elementaruli 

valdebulebebi Seasrulos. 

xalxi am daxmarebis gaormagebas 

elodeboda, amitom mTeli 

mTavroba mobilizebuli unda 

iyos, rom ramenairad am mTavrobas, 

ministrs davexmaroT. am 

SemTxvevaSi viRacam Tavisi unda 

daTmos, magram mTavrobis sxdomaze 

amasTan dakavSirebiT Widaoba 

midis xolme, kuTvnili resursis 

gadasrola ar undaT, gaWirvebul 

xalxze aravin fiqrobs. 

darwmunebuli var, aqac devnilebisTvis 

Tanxas veravin gaimetebs, 

rac Cveni bralicaa. devnili 

sazogadoeba, Tavis droze, 

xmas ar viRebT, iseT Zalas ar 

warmovadgenT, romelsac realur 

angariSs gauweven. 

_ proeqtSi aRniSnulia, rom 

saministro apirebs dawios Semo- 

savlis 1250-lariani zRvari, ase- 

ve daxmareba Seuwydes im pirebs, 

romlebic ar arian dabadebulebi 

afxazeTsa da cxinvalis regionSi, 

aseve qorwinebaSi imyofe- 

bian aradevnilebTan... 

_ zRvris dawevaze saubari ukve 

xalxis dacinvaa. ojaxSi erTerTi 

rom aradevnilia, mas Semweoba 

isedac ar ericxeba. 

aq dabadebuli bavSvebisTvis 

statusis gansazRvra ki cota 

sxva sakiTxia. amaze mec vfiqrob, 

raTa es saxelmwifosTvis dausrulebeli 

problema ar iyos. devnilad, 

realurad, is miiCneva, 

vinc saomari mdgomareobidan wamovida 

da aq dabadebuli devnilad 

arc unda iTvlebodes. amaSi 

ver Seedavebi. maSin amiT daiwyon, 

ar miscen devnilis statusi da, 

TavisTavad, 45 laric ar miecema. 

_ aRniSnuli reforma ra 

Sedegebs moitans? 

_ xalxSi Zalian didi ukmayofileba 

iqneba, yuri movkari, xelmowerebi 

SeiZleba Segrovdes 

da a. S. xelmowerebis Segrovebis 

winaaRmdegi ar var da davexmarebi. 

magram, simarTle giTxraT, 

devnilebis didi imedi ar maqvs. 

movlenebis ganviTarebas davelodebiT. 

aseve afxazeTis umaRlesi 

sabWos pozicias aravin iTvaliswinebs. 

mas arc xalxi, arc centraluri 

xelisufleba arafrad 

miiCnevs. 

_ ratom? 

_ ufunqcioa, reputacia Selaxuli 

aqvs, xalxis gverdiT arasodes 

idgnen, xmasac ki ver iReben... 

zogadad, devnil mosaxleobasac 

es mTavroba ar uyvars, 

maT maradmwvane deputatebs vuwodebT. 

im droidan moyolebuli 

mxolod sakuTar samuSao adgilebs 

ufrTxildebian. es mTavroba 

erTi da igive xalxis xelSia, erTgvari 

mafiaa, romelsac, sxvaTa 

Soris, verc erTi mTavroba ver 

ereva. am sakiTxSi maT azrsac aravin 

gauwevs angariSs. parlamentSi 

teritoriuli mTlianobis 

aRmdgeni droebiTi komisia ar Seqmnila, 

esec cudi signalia. albaT, 

male afxazeTis mTavrobas 

daxuraven, mere Serigebis saministros 

da devnilTa saministrosac 

da morCeba amiT yvelaferi. 

sakonstitucio cvlilebebSic 

afxazeTis sakiTxi ar figurirebs. 

saerTod, am procesSi Cven 

ver vmonawileobT, ar mogvces 

amis saSualeba. „qarTuli ocnebis” 

saarCevno programaSi devnilebze 

erTi sityva ar aris, arc 

konfliqtebze, _ es Tema maT ar 

awuxebT. 

saqarTvelos okupirebuli 

teritoriebidan iZulebiT gada- 

adgilebul pirTa, gansaxlebisa 

da ltolvilTa ministr sozar 

subaris brifingi dagegmil re- 

formasTan dakavSirebiT: 

„devnilis statuss aravin exeba. 

laparakia, mxolod da mxolod, 

imaze, rom devnilTa daxmarebis 

sistema gaxdes metad efeqtiani 

da metad orientirebuli 

gaWirvebul, socialurad daucvel, 

mZime mdgomareobaSi myof 

devnilebze da ara im adamianebze, 

romlebsac es daxmareba ar sWirdebaT... 

didi xania vapirebT devnilTa 

daxmarebis sistemis reformas, es 

ar aris axali ambavi, amis Sesaxeb 

naTlad da mkafiod weria 2015- 

2016 wlebis devnilTa saxelmwifo 

daxmarebis strategiaSi, 

romelic miRebulia mTavrobis 

2015 wlis 4 Tebervlis sxdomaze 

da swored amis ganxorcielebis 

morig etapze gadavdivarT, es 

reforma didi xania, dawyebulia. 

me ar momismenia da SeiZleba, 

ukve Tqves kidevac, rom TiTqos 

devnilis statuss vauqmebT. Tu 

ar uTqvamT, ukve daiwyeben amis 

Sesaxeb yvirils. pirdapir minda 

winaswar vTqva, rom es aris tyuili, 

devnilis statuss aravin exeba. 

laparakia, mxolod da mxolod, 

imaze, rom devnilTa daxmarebis 

sistema gaxdes ufro metad 

efeqtiani da metad orientirebuli 

gaWirvebul, socialurad 

daucvel, mZime mdgomareobaSi 

myof devnilebze da ara im adamianebze, 

romlebsac es daxmareba 

ar sWirdebaT. 

magaliTisTvis getyviT, rom am 

reformis pirveli etapi gatarda 

2013 wels, es iyo erTgvari 

dasawyisi da maSin finansTa saministrom 

aRmoaCina devnili ojaxebi, 

romelTa wliuri Semosavali 

3 milion lars aRemateboda. am 

devnili ojaxebis yvela wevri 45 

lars iRebda. me mgoni, gasagebia, 

rom es aris araswori, es aris saxelmwifo 

finansebis araefeqtiani 

xarjva. es Tanxa unda moxmardes 

im devnilebs, romlebsac namdvilad 

sWirdebaT daxmareba. maSin 

reforma gatarda, oRond es iyo 

mxolod nawilobrivi reforma, 

kerZod, 45-lariani daxmareba im 



adamianebs moexsnaT, romelTa 

Tviuri Semosavalic 1250 lars 

aRemateba. 3 milioni laris Semosavlis 

mqone biznesmens es daxmareba 

moexsna, Tumca misi ojaxis 

yvela wevrs kanoniT ufleba 

darCa, rom miiRos es daxmareba, 

rac, dameTanxmebiT, ar aris normaluri 

da saxelmwifo saxsrebis 

araswori flangvaa. 

es reforma, pirvel rigSi, gulisxmobs, 

rom TiToeuli TeTri, 

romelic reformiT daizogeba, 

moxmardes, isev da isev, devnilebs, 

socialurad daucveli 

devnilebis ekonomikuri mdgomareobis 

gaumjobesebas da maT 

socialur daxmarebebs, moxmardeba 

am devnilebisTvis Semosavlis 

wyaroebis zrdasa da gaCenas (igulisxmeba 

dasaqmebis programebi 

da a. S.), rac yvelaze mTavaria, 

moxmardeba mSeneblobebs da devnilTa 

sayofacxovrebo pirobebis 

gaumjobesebas, rom davaCqaroT 

mSeneblobebis tempebi. pirobas 

gaZlevT, es reforma, am 

mxriv, Zalian seriozul winsvlas 

mogvcems da ufro naklebi gaWirvebuli 

devnili gveyoleba. 

rac yvelaze saocaria, CemTvis 

es aris „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

aqtivistebisa da am moZraobis sxvadasxva 

anasxletis yvirili am 

Temaze. gansakuTrebiT gaocebuli 

var, rodesac brifings am 

Temaze maSindeli ministris, koba 

subelianis moadgile werediani 

atarebs. werediani iyo ministris 

moadgile 2008 wlis 4 dekembers, 

rodesac maSindelma mTavrobam, 

am saministros wardginebiT, dadgenileba 

miiRo, sadac SaviT TeTrze 

weria, rom yvela devnils, 

romelmac miiRo saxli, bina, kompensacia 

an miiRebs binas an kompensacias, 

uwydeba ekonomikuri 

daxmareba saxelmwifosgan. 

rogor iRebdnen maSin binebsa 

da kompensaciebs da rogor xdeboda 

dakanoneba, rogor xdeboda 

ès reforma, pirvel rigSi, gulisxmobs, rom TiToeuli TeTri, romelic 

reformiT daizogeba, moxmardes, isev da isev, devnilebs, socialurad 

daucveli devnilebis ekonomikuri mdgomareobis gaumjobesebas da maT 

socialur daxmarebebs, moxmardeba am devnilebisTvis Semosavlis wyaroebis 

zrdasa da gaCenas (igulisxmeba dasaqmebis programebi da a. S.), rac yvelaze 

mTavaria, moxmardeba mSeneblobebs da devnilTa sayofacxovrebo pirobebis 

gaumjobesebas, rom davaCqaroT mSeneblobebis tempebi. pirobas gaZlevT, es 

reforma, am mxriv, Zalian seriozul winsvlas mogvcems da ufro naklebi 

gaWirvebuli devnili gveyoleba~ 

`didi xania vapirebT devnilTa daxmarebis 

sistemis reformas, es ar aris axali ambavi, 

amis Sesaxeb naTlad da mkafiod weria 2015- 

2016 wlebis devnilTa saxelmwifo daxmarebis 

strategiaSi, romelic miRebulia mTavrobis 

2015 wlis 4 Tebervlis sxdomaze da swored 

amis ganxorcielebis morig etapze 

gadavdivarT, es reforma didi xania, 

dawyebulia. me ar momismenia da SeiZleba, 

ukve Tqves kidevac, rom TiTqos devnilis 

statuss vauqmebT. Tu ar uTqvamT, ukve 

daiwyeben amis Sesaxeb yvirils. pirdapir 

minda winaswar vTqva, rom es aris tyuili, 

devnilis statuss aravin exeba. laparakia, 

mxolod da mxolod, imaze, rom devnilTa 

daxmarebis sistema gaxdes ufro metad 

efeqtiani da metad orientirebuli 

gaWirvebul, socialurad daucvel, mZime 

mdgomareobaSi myof devnilebze da ara im 

adamianebze, romlebsac es daxmareba ar 

sWirdebaT~ 

devnilebis gamoyra da gadasaxleba 

focxoewerSi, bakurcixesa 

Tu sxvagan, es Tqven Cemze ukeTesad 

mogexsenebaT. dRes, vinc 

iRebs binas, an ipoTekur sesxis 

dafarvis proeqtSi monawileobs, 

es aris absoluturad nebayoflobiTi 

procesi, maSindelisgan 

gansxvavebiT. 

aseve igegmeba garkveuli inovaciebis 

Semotana binebiT dakmayofilebis 

procesSi. erT-erTi inovacia, 

romelic ukve ganvaxorcieleT, 

aris ipoTekuri sesxebis 

dafarvaSi daxmareba. aseve vmuSaobT 

proeqtze, romelic gulisxmobs, 

rom Tu devnil ojaxs ar 

aqvs saxlis mSenebloba damTavrebuli, 

an aqvs miwa, sadac sacxovreblis 

aSenebas apirebs, SeiZleba 

gamovuyoT garkveuli Tanxa... 

2003 wlidan moyolebuli am reformis 

gatarebas daJinebiT iTxovs 

saxelmwifosgan yvela is saerTaSoriso 

da arasamTavrobo 

organizacia, romelic devnilTa 

sakiTxebze muSaobs. piriqiT, 

brals gvdebdnen, rom mTavrobas 

ar aqvs politikuri neba. diax, 

Cven gvaqvs politikuri neba. amas 

sWirdeboda momzadeba da Cven 

axla mzad varT amisTvis. am sakiTxze 

2016 wlis noembridan vmuSaobT 

arasamTavrobo organizaciebTan, 

donorebTan da saerTa- 

Soriso organizaciebTan erTad, 

anu imaTTan, vinc uSualod CarTuli 

iyo am reformis momzadebasa 

da lobirebaSi. 

garda amisa, Sevxvdi eqspertebs 

da maTac warvudgine es ideebi. 

am dReebSic vapireb, es Sexvedrebi 

gavagrZelo. jerjerobiT 

oficialurad ar aris gadagzavnili 

mTavrobasa da parlamentSi, 

Tumca Cemi ideebis Sesaxeb 

mTavrobas vesaubre, guSin Sevxvdi 

saparlamento umravlesobis 

ramdenime liders da, praqtikulad, 

maTgan sruli mxardaWera 

gvaqvs, rom es reforma unda gatardes. 

ra modeliT gatardeba 

reforma, amaze jer ar arsebobs 

konsensusi, imitom rom muSaoba 

midis. muSaobis procesSi ganxiluli 

iyo absoluturad miuRebeli 

modelebic, modelebi romlebic 

misaRebia, magram iseT 

efeqts ver mogvcems... 

vfiqrob, nel-nela vuaxlovdebiT 

saWiro models da rogorc 

ki donorebTan, eqspertebTan, 

saerTaSoriso da arasamTavrobo 

organizaciebTan erTad am 

modelze CamovyalibdebiT, mere 

gavacnobT mas mTavrobasac, parlamentsac, 

uSualod devnil sazogadoebas, 

legitimur struqturebs: 

afxazeTis, „samxreT oseTis” 

da im xuTi municipalitetis, 

rogoric aris kodoris, Ti- 

Rvis, eredvisa da ase Semdeg, devnilebs. 

maTTan Cven jer ar dagviwyia 

am Temaze muSaoba. mTeli am 

xnis ganmavlobaSi, 2016 wlis noembridan 

dRemde, intensiurad da 

naklebi intensivobiT manamde vmuSaobdiT 

im arasamTavroboebTan 

da donorebTan, romlebic msgavsi 

reformebis iniciatorebi iyvnen. 

es procesi ar xdeboda zurgs 

ukan, 2016 wlis noembersa da dekemberSi 

me amis Sesaxeb „maestrosa” 

da „palitra tv”-is eTerSi 

vilaparake, detalebi ar damikonkretebia, 

Tumca imas, rom am reformas 

vatarebT, yvelgan da 

yovelTvis vambob da amas gavakeTebT 

aucileblad, rom gaWirvebul 

devnilebs davexmaroT. 

sanam modelze saboloo gadawyvetileba 

ar iqneba, Tanxebze 

laparaki SeuZlebelia. am saminitros 

biujeti aris 85 milioni 

lari, aqedan 70 milioni lari 

xmardeba devnilTa binebiT dakmayofilebas. 

es aris Cveni umTavresi 

prioriteti, rom sanam dabrundebian, 

yvela devnils hqondes 

Rirseuli cxovrebis pirobebi. 

maSin, roca devnilTa socialur 

daxmarebebze, mTlianobaSi, ixarjeba 

150-160 milioni da am 

Tanxis didi nawili ar aris efeqtiani, 

imitom rom adamianebs vurigebT 

45 lars, miuxedavad imisa, 

mis ojaxs sWirdeba es Tu ar sWirdeba. 

Cven vapirebT davexmaroT 

imaT, visac es sWirdeba da es 

aranairad ar exeba statuss. Cven 

varT erTaderTi qveyana, romelic 

ambobs, rom devnils unda 

hqondes iseTive Rirseuli sacxovrebeli 

pirobebi sakuTrebaSi, 

rogoric aqvT qveynis danarCen 

moqalaqeebs”, _ ganacxada sozar 

subarma. 

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quTaisis gasxvisebuli 

quTaisis sakrebuloSi Seqmni- 

xviCa vaSaymaZe 

li komisiis daskvniT, „naciona- 

luri moZraobis” mmarTvelobis 

dros, qalaqSi qoneba kanonierad sxvisdeboda. 6 Tve gavida, 

rac quTaisis sakrebuloSi specialuri komisia Seiqmna, 

romelsac 2006-2015 wlebSi gasxvisebuli uZravi qonebis 

kanoniereba unda Seeswavla. 

komisiis Seqmnis idea sakrebulos 

deputats, „respublikuri partiis” 

yofil wevrs, nato qaTama- 

Zes ekuTvnoda, romlis gancxadebiTac 

„nacionaluri moZraobis” 

mmarTvelobis dros miwis nakveTebi 

da Senoba-nagebobebi xSirad 

arakanonierad sxvisdeboda, ris 

gamoc biujeti seriozulad zaraldeboda. 

qaTamaZe komisiis farglebSi 

aseTi faqtebis gamovlenasa 

da kanondamrRvevTa mimarT Sesabamisi 

RonisZiebis gatarebas 

moiTxovda. qalaqis sakanonmdeblo 

organom komisiis Seqmnas garkveuli 

drois gasvlis Semdeg dauWira 

mxari da, albaT, meti demokratiulobisTvis, 

Sesaswavli periodi 

2015 wlamde gazarda, xolo 

komisiis Tavmjdomareoba misi Seqmnis 

iniciatoris magier sakrebulos 

wevrs, gia qobalians daavala, 

romlis patiosnebaSic nato qaTamaZes 

eWvi ar epareba, magram msgavsi 

sakiTxebis SeswavlisTvis 

saWiro gamocdilebis arqonas da 

kompetencias uwunebs. 

„me veravin damabralebs „nacionalebis” 

mxares yofnas, magram 

isini Wkvianebi arian da kargadac 

icodnen, rogor moqceuliyvnen, 

rom kanoni ar daerRviaT”, _ aseTi 

Sefaseba gaakeTa komisiis Tavmjdomarem, 

romelmac sakrebulos 

sxdomaze kolegebs gaweuli muSaobis 

Sesaxeb angariSi Caabara. 6 Tvis 

manZilze komisiam 800-ze meti obieqtis 

gasxvisebis skiTxi Seiswavla 

da gaarkvia, rom arc erTTan 

dakavSirebiT raime saxis kanondarRveva 

ar ikveTeba. mxolod gadawyvetilebebis 

moralur mxareze 

keTdeba aqcenti. 

gia qobaliani _ komisiis Tav- 

mjdomare: 

_ ra periodis masalebis Ses- 

wavla moaxerxa komisiam da ra 

gairkva? 

_ Cven 2006-2015 wlebis periods 

unda gavcnobodiT, magram aRmoCnda, 

rom 2006 wlis masalebi meriaSi 

ar moipoveboda, ris gamoc, xelmiuwvdomeli 

gaxda CvenTvis da, faqtobrivad, 

2007 wlidan daviwyeT. 

sul 800-ze meti obieqti iqna Seswavlili. 

marTalia, saerTo jamSi, 

maTi gayidvis Sedegad Semosulma 

Tanxam 10 milionamde Seadgina, magram 

wlebis mixedviT Tu gavyofT, 

maincdamainc, didi Semosavali ar 

aris. obieqtebi gasxvisebulia maSindeli 

kanonmdeblobis Sesabamisad. 

ai, es aris yvelaze cudi. 

_ ratom aris cudi? 

gia qobaliani 

_ maT kanonierad daaregistrires 

zogierTi ram da mere gayides, 

rac ar unda gayiduliyo. magaliTad, 

teritoria, romelic 

skveris saxiT iyo gankarguli, realurad 

ar gaxldaT skveri, magram 

statusi mieniWa da aRnagobis uflebiT 

30-50 wliT gaica. miwa saxelmwifos 

darCa, xolo Senoba sxvisia. 

ZiriTadad aris maRaziebi, 

samrecxaoebi da kvebis obieqtebi. 

aseTi saxiT obieqtebi gasxvisebulia 

qalaqis mTel teritoriaze, 

magram gansakuTrebiT barbarosulad 

skveris statusi rom mianiWes 

da Semdeg gayides, es aris nikeas 

quCa. ZiriTadad, axla iq usaxuri 

da gaumarTlebeli obieqtebia. 

_ rodis gasxvisda yvelaze 

meti obieqti? 

_ bumi iyo 2008 wels da 2013- 

Si, maSinac, rodesac xelisuflebis 

gadabareba xdeboda. 

_ komisias unda Seeswavla pe- 

riodi, romelic, aseve, moicavs 

amJamindeli xelisuflebis mma- 

rTvelobasac. obieqtebis gasxvisebis 

formebis kuTxiT gan- 

sxvaveba aris? da ra xdeboda 2013 

wlis Semdeg? 

_ diax, esaa 2014-15 wlebi. me 

imas ki ar vambob, rom Cveni xelisufleba 

idealuria, magram roca 

movediT, eleqtronuli auqcioni 

SemoviReT. 2014 wels gasxvisda 69, 

xolo 2015 wels _ 75 obieqti. 

_ am wlebSi obieqtebis gasx- 

visebis kanoniereba eWvs ar 

iwvevs? 

_ naklebad. Tumca sakrebulos 

sxdomazec vTqvi, rom 2014-15 wlebSi 

e. w. kibis ujredebis bumi daiwyo. 

18 da 20 kv.m. kibis ujredi 

aRar aris ukve. es saeWvoa, namdvilad 

saeWvoa. 

_ komisiis SeqmniT surdaT gamoevlinaT, 

iyo Tu ara kanondar- 

Rveva? ra iqneba Semdgomi nabiji? 

_ komisiis funqciebi SezRudulia. 

Cven warmovadgineT da Sei- 

Zleba cnobad iqnes miRebuli, Tu 

romeli teritoriebi ar unda 

gasxvisebuliyo. 

_ es ras cvlis? 

_ Tu vinme dainteresebuli piria, 

10 dReSi unda Semoitanos winadadeba. 

e.i. Tu moqalaqe miiCnevs, 

rom obieqti gaiyida da is dazaralda, 

saSualeba aqvs, Seswavla 

moiTxovos. 

_ ramdenad efeqtianad imuSava 

komisiam da ra miviReT, sab- 

olood, 6 Tvis Semdeg? 

_ Tu gvainteresebs obieqtebi, 

romlebic im dros gaiyida, gaiyida 

Tu ara kanonis Sesabamisad, SegviZlia 

vaTqvaT, rom diax, kanonierad 

gaiyida. raime saxis darRveva 

ar yofila, ai, esaa ubedureba. 

veravin damwamebs, rom „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” mexotbe var, magram 

saqme icodnen da yvelaferi 

kanonis Sesabamisad gaakeTes. obieqtebi 

gasxvisebulia im droisTvis 

dadgenili wesiT. 

_ amis dadgena da zogadi sur- 

aTis daxatva, xom SeiZleboda, 

ramdenime obieqtis SemowmebiT da 

komisiis Seqmnis gareSec momx- 

dariyo? ra saWiro iyo SeeqmnaT 

komisia, Tuki veraferi gavigeT da 

arc araferi icvleba? 

_ arc me vici, ra saWiro iyo. 

Tumca am 800 Seswavlil saqmeSi 

aris masalebi, rasac prokuratura 

ikvlevs, magram me mas fizikurad 

ver Seviswavlidi. komisiam imuSava 

da masalebi dado. 

_ komisiam imuSava, Tu gia 

qobalianma imuSava? Tqven sakr- 

ebulos sxdomaze ganacxadeT, rom 

bevrma uari Tqva komisiis wevro- 

baze, xolo ramdenime daTanxmda, 

magram ganacxada, imitom ki ar 

Sedis komisiaSi, rom imuSaos, 

aramed imitom, rom dagakvirdeT. 

_ TiToeuli fraqcia erTi deputatiT 

unda Semosuliyo, magram 

`Tibisi bankma~ socialuri 

pasuxismgeblobis angariSi waradgina 

„Tibisi galereaSi“ Sekrebil mediis 

warmomadgenlebs da sazogadoebas „Tibisi 

bankma“ ganxorcielebuli CSR 

proeqtebis Sesaxeb angariSi warudgina. 

korporaciuli socialuri pasuxismgebloba 

„Tibisi bankisTvis“ prioritetuli 

mimarTulebaa; CSR investiciebisa 

da politikis mxriv „Tibisi“ 

iseTi saerTaSoriso bankebis praqtikas 

utoldeba, rogorebic arian: 

Barclays, HSBC, Deutche Banc da sxvebi. korporaciuli 

solidaruli pasuxismgebloba 

iseT sferoebze pozitiuri zegavlenis 

moxdenas iTvaliswinebs, romelic 

sazogadoebisTvis aqtualuri 

da sainteresoa. am mxriv, „Tibisi bankis“ 

mier mxardaWerili proeqtebi mravalferovania: 

biznesis ganviTareba da 

xelSewyoba, niWieri axalgazrdebis ganaTleba 

da profesiuli ganviTareba, 

kultura, xelovneba, socialurad aqtualuri 

Temebi, ragbis popularizacia 

da sxv. 

qarTuli biznesseqtorisTvis siaxlea 

isic, rom kerZo kompania sazogadoebas 

warudgens angariSs socialuri 

pasuxismgeblobis qolgis qveS ganxorcielebuli 

proeqtebis Sesaxeb. 

prezentaciaze Sekrebil adamianebs 

saSualeba hqondaT, videorgoli enaxaT, 

sadac yvela is mniSvnelovani iniciativa 

moxvda, romelic 2015-2016 wlebSi 

„Tibisis“ mxardaWeriT Sedga. ganxorcielebuli 

proeqtebi bankisTvis 

prioritetul oTx mimarTulebaSi gaerTianda: 

biznesis mxardaWera, axali 

Taoba, kultura da ragbi. „Tibisi“ gamoirCeva 

TanamSromlebze orientirebuli 

socialuri proeqtebiTac: profesiuli 

ganviTarebis programebi, romelic 

ucxoeTSi swavlas moicavs, „Tibisi 

akademia“, fondi „Tibiselebi TibiselebisTvis“, 

mravalSvilianebis finansuri 

waxaliseba da sxv. 

„Tibisi banki“ momavalSic gaagrZelebs 

socialuri pasuxismgeblobis 

farglebSi proeqtebis mxardaWeras, 

2017 wlis aqcentebi kvlav iqneba biznesis 

mxardaWera, axali Taoba, kultura 

da ragbi. 

mamuka xazaraZe - „Tibisi bankis“ 

sameTvalyureo sabWos Tavmjdomare: 

- gadavwyviteT, sazogadoebas, socialuri 

pasuxismgeblobis mimarTulebiT 

gakeTebuli saqmianobis Sesaxeb, 

gasuli wlis angariSi CavabaroT. sakmaod 

moculobiT Tanxas vxarjavT imisTvis, 

rom sxvadasxva proeqti ganvaxorcieloT, 

es aris ragbis mxardaWera, 

operisa da baletis Teatris mxardaWera, 

programis - were qarTulad da 

sxva. es proeqtebi farTod gavacaniT 

sazogadoebas, CavabareT angariSi da 

aseve vuTxariT, ras vapirebT momaval 

wels. Cveni azriT, es kultura „Tibisi 

bankSi“ ukve damkvidrda, amaSi Car- 

Tulia uamravi adamiani, pirvel rigSi, 

Cveni TanamSromlebi. Cven sakmaod didi 

istoria davagroveT, romelic ukve 

gascda saqarTvelos farglebs, am 

proeqtebiT Zalian bevri ucxouri bankia 

dainteresebuli. ra Tqma unda, 

Cvenc vswavlobT maTganac. Cven amas 

gavagrZelebT. yovelwliurad ramdenime 

milion larzea laparaki. SarSan, 

daaxloebiT, 6 milion laramde daixarja 

im Tanxebis garda, romliTac saqvelmoqmedo 

proeqtebSi vakeTebT investirebas. 

xazi minda gavusva, rom qvelmoqmedeba 

da socialuri pasuxismgebloba 

erTmaneTisgan gavmijneT, radgan 

qvelmoqmedeba is nawilia, romelsac 

guliT vakeTebT da amaze ar vlaparakobT. 

socialuri pasuxismgebloba, 

Cveni gagebiT, aris instituciuri 

midgoma, seriozuli menejmentis resursebis 

daxarjva, axali menejmentis 

generireba da sakiTxis ise gadawyveta, 

rom man Semdeg damoukideblad SeZlos 

arseboba, anu vafinansebT ankess da ara 

Tevzs. swored es idea gvinda gavitanoT 

da bevri iniciativa davnergoT. 

migvaCnia, rom Zala erTobaSia da patara 

Sexidebac am saqmes ufro farTo 

masStabs miscems. 


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qoneba da ufunqcio komisia 

ar moxerxda. 6-kacian komisiaSi, 

ZiriTadad, samma adamianma vimuSaveT. 

marTalia, komisiam daadgina, 

rom obieqtebi im droisTvis arsebuli 

kanonis Sesabamisad gasxvisebulia, 

magram es ar niSnavs, rom 

yvela obieqtis gasxvisebas veTanxmebiT. 

aq moralur mxaresTan 

gvaqvs saqme da migvaCnia, rom es 

teritoriebi ar unda gayiduliyo. 

amitomac vTxoveT qalaqis mers, 

rom detalurad iyos Seswavlili 

yvela nakveTi da ganmartebiT baraTSic 

Sesabamisi dokumentacia idos, 

raTa gavigoT, ra mizniT iyideba? 

Tu mxolod marto imitom, rom 

gaiyidos da biujetSi fuli Sevides, 

ase ar unda xdebodes. ramdenime 

obieqtis Sesaxeb informacia 

garemosa da bunebrivi resursebis 

dacvis saministros gadaveciT. 

magaliTad, nikeas quCaze xelovnurad 

gaaxmes aswlovani xeebi, 

sadac axla tentiT gadaxuruli 

avtosamrecxaoa ganTavsebuli. 

_ 6 Tve sakmarisi dro iyo 800- 

ze meti obieqtis Sesaswavlad? 

_ ara, magram es araadamianur 

Sromad dajda. sayuradReboa, rom 

Cveni saqmianoba axal wels da arCevnebs 

daemTxva, magram miuxedavad 

amisa, movaxerxeT, yvelafers gavcnobodiT. 

nato qaTamaZe _ sakrebulos 

wevri: 

_ ratom miiCnieT saWirod ko- 

misiis Seqmna? 

_ iyo SemTxvevebi, roca axlandeli 

xelisufleba winamorbedisken 

iSverda xels miwebis arakanonierad 

gasxvisebasTan dakavSirebiT, 

nato qaTamaZe 

Tumca wina xelisufleba axla am- 

Jamindelisken migvaniSnebs. Cven or 

politikur Zalas Soris gadabralebis 

momswre gavxdiT. aqedan 

gamomdinare, gaCnda mosazreba, 

gasxvisebuli miwebis kanonierebis 

sakiTxi Segveswavla, raTa erTxel 

da samudamod dasrulebuliyo 

amaze saubari da erTxel da samudamod 

pasuxi agon konkretulma 

adamianebma, raTa xval sxva deputatebma 

veRar gabedon ama Tu im 

gankargulebis sakuTar Tavze morgeba. 

weliwadze meti vibrZodi da 

2016 wlis TebervalSi dameTanxmnen. 

biuros sxdomaze gadawyda, Tu 

rogor unda emuSava jgufs da 

aseve momzadda meore proeqti, romlis 

mixedviTac me jgufis xelm- 

ZRvaneli unda vyofiliyavi. Tumca 

aRmoCnda, rom biuro sakrebulos 

sxdomamde erTi saaTiT adre 

Sekrebila da es sakiTxi dRis wesrigidan 

amoiRes. maSin kolegebs 

mivmarTe da vuTxari, rom isini 

mSivrebi arian. sakrebulos wevrma, 

batonma toroSeliZem, brZana, 

goCa TevdoraZes xom ar davupirispirdebiT, 

mgoni, biZina ivaniSvili 

apirebs masTan TanamSromlobaso. 

aprilSi debuleba da wesi Semoitanes, 

riTac unda gvexelmZRvanela, 

magram jgufis xelmZRvanelis 

sakiTxi Riad datoves. gia 

qobalianis daniSvna maisSi gadawyvites. 

vici, rom gias es ar surda. 

mas ganucxadebia, rom natosTan 

moralurad ar viqnebi marTalio, 

radgan es misi inicirebulia da meorec, 

me es sakiTxi ar vicio. uTxres, 

Sen daiwye da Cven dagexmarebiTo. 

sinamdvileSi, maT egonaT, 

nato qaTamaZe jgufis erT-erTi 

wevri iqneboda da is imuSavebda, 

magram rac maT ar awyobdaT, imas 

ar gamataninebdnen. me am jgufSi 

ar Sevedi da baton qobalians marto 

mouwia muSaoba. araerTxel 

miTqvams, rom gia aris Tavisi saqmis 

profesionali, kargi istorikosi, 

magram is sakiTxi, romlis Sesaxebac 

vdaobdiT, marTla ar icis. 

maSinve vTqvi, rom es jgufi 

verafersac ver dadebda, miT umetes, 

gia qobalianis xelmZRvanelobiT. 

marTlac ase moxda: rac 

sakrebulos sxdomaze movismineT, 

es, ubralod, leqcia iyo. 

_ e. i. komisiam Sedegi ver 

dado? 

_ nebismieri komisiis muSaoba 

SedegiT unda Sefasdes. konkretul 

SemTxvevaSi Sedegi ar gvaqvs. 

rac komisiam warmogvidgina, amis 

gakeTeba rigiT TanamSromelsac 

SeeZlo. Cemi mizani ki iyo Semeswavla, 

Tu vin idga konkretuli far- 

Tis ukan, rogor moxda privatizeba, 

rogor sargeblobdnen wina xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebi TanamdebobebiT? 

samwuxarod, es yvelaferi 

ver gavigeT. 

_ magram gavigeT, rom kanond- 

arRveva obieqtebis gasxvisebisas 

ar yofila. 

_ es komisia saqmeebs ver Seiswavlida 

da sxva daskvnas verc gaakeTebda. 

komisiis Seqmnis dRes 

pirvelsave komentarSi gia qobalianma 

ganacxada, rom aq ar iqneba 

sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli, 

albaT, moraluri pasuxismgebloba 

iqnebao. amitomac ar iyo didi 

molodini. 

_ gasagebia, roca saubaria wina 

xelisuflebebis moralur pa- 

suxismgeblobaze, magram 2014 

wlis Semdeg gasxvisebuli obieqtebis 

gamo amJamindeli xelisufleba 

moralma unda Seawux- 

os? 

_ Tu moralze midgeba saqme, 

axlandeli xelisufleba ufro 

unda Sewuxdes am kuTxiT, vidre 

wina xelisufleba. wina xelisuflebam 

Zalian bevri farTi gaasxvisa, 

magram mSeneblobis nebarTvebis 

gacema ver gabeda. amJamindelma 

xelisuflebam ki yvela im 

farTze gasca aseTi nebarTva. ase 

rom, roca wina xelisuflebisken 

iSveren xels, arafriT gansxvavdebian 

maTgan. SesaZlebloba iyo, 

privatizebuli farTebis, an sadac 

sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulis 

niSnebi da raime saxis eWvi iqneboda, 

revizia CaetarebinaT da prokuraturisTvis 

gadaegzavnaT. ase- 

Ti qmedebiT daamtkicebdnen, rom 

qalaqis sakeTildReod movidnen 

da ara sakuTari biznesis lobirebisTvis. 

axlandelma xelisuflebam 

winamorbeds Cadenili ukanonobebi 

Seargo. magaliTad, Cems samaJoritaro 

olqSi qoneba gasxvisda. 

auqcioni 2007 wlis dekemberSi 

gamocxadda da 2008 wlis 14 ianvars 

Catarda. iciT, vin iyida? _ 

qalaqis prokuroris mZRolma. unda 

moekvliaT, magram ver gabedes, 

radgan is prokurori, im wuTis mionacemebiTac, 

prokuraturaSi 

muSaobda, amaT ki, yvelas, ukan moxedvis 

eSinia da amjobinebs, gaCumdes, 

radgan, winaaRmdeg SemTxveva- 

Si, prokurori maT wilebze 

saubars daiwyebs. 

_ aRniSneT, rom damoukideb- 

lad apirebT mokvlevis Catarebas. 

_ amaze mogvianebiT. rig adamianebTan 

konsultaciebi maqvs da 

Semdgom gavaJRereb, ra formiT 

daviwyeb muSaobas. am komisias davacade. 

amJamad specialistebs vesaubrebi 

da komisiac swored ise- 

Ti adamianebisgan Seiqmneba, romlebsac 

uyvarT quTaisi da mzad 

arian, sazogadoebriv sawyisebze 

imuSaon. 

àqsisis~ portfelSi 38 dasrulebuli 

kompleqsi da 15 mimdinare da axali proeqtia 

„aqsisis” generaluri direqtoris, 

giorgi kapanaZis megzurobiT, mediis 

warmomadgenlebma TbilisSi mdebare 

ramdenime dasrulebuli da mSenebare 

obieqti moinaxules. mediis warmomadgenlebs 

saSualeba miecaT, konkretulad 

gascnobodnen „aqsisis” mier ganx- 

orcielebul da dagegmil proeqtebs. 


gasuli wlebis Sejamebisas giorgi kapanaZem 

aRniSna, rom adgilobriv bazarze 

„aqsiss” dagrovili gamocdileba da inovaciuri 

midgomebisadmi da mSeneblobis 

umaRlesi standartebis danergvisadmi 

erTguleba gamoarCevs: „swored 

gamocdilebam da am mTavari komponentebisadmi 

erTgulebam misca „aqsiss” imis 

saSualeba, rom bevri sxva kompaniisgan 

gansxvavebiT, gadaurCa developerul 

bazarze 2008 wlis Semdgom ganviTarebul 

kriziss da SeZlo, praqtikulad, warmoudgeneli 

_ Seferxebuli proeqtebis 

ganaxleba da, amasTan erTad, ramdenime 

msxvili, maT Soris, megaproeqtis wamowyeba. 

„aqsisi” 18-wlian istorias iTvlis. 

am xnis ganmavlobaSi Cven ganvaxorcieleT 

38 mravalsarTuliani sacxovrebeli 

korpusis mSenebloba, xolo 15 mimdinare 

da axali proeqtis dasruleba 

2017-2018 wlebSi igegmeba. praqtikulad, 

„aqsisi” saqarTveloSi erTaderTi msxvili 

developeruli kompaniaa, romelmac 

gadalaxa samSeneblo bazarze Seqmnili 

krizisi da postkrizisul periodSi kvlav 

bazris lideris pozicias inar- 

Cunebs”, _ ganacxada giorgi kapanaZem mediaturis 

monawileebTan saubrisas. 

mediis warmomadgenlebma daaTvalieres 

„aqsisis” mier ganaxlebuli Se- 

Cerebuli mSenebloba sairmis quCaze. 

rogorc kompaniis direqtori giorgi 

kapanaZe acxadebs, „sairme palasis” 23- 

sarTuliani, meore korpusis mSenebloba 

2018 wlis Semodgomaze dasruldeba da 

dRemde daukmayofilebeli mobinadreebi 

axal korpusSi gadasvlas SeZleben. 

misive gancxadebiT, „sairme palasis” meore 

korpusSi, pirveli korpusis msgavsad, 

120 ojaxi ganTavsdeba. 

giorgi kapanaZis TqmiT, „sairme palasi” 

aris bolo SeCerebuli obieqti, ri- 

Tac kompania gasuli wlebis valdebulebebis 

Sesrulebas daasrulebs da mobinadreebs 

srulad daakmayofilebs. 

kompaniis sadReisod arsebuli portfeli, 

pirobiTad, SeiZleba, sam ZiriTad 

kategoriad daiyos: 2008 wlis krizisamdeli, 

postkrizisuli da axali proeqtebi. 

2008 wlis krizisamde „aqsisma” aago 18 

mravalsarTuliani sacxovrebeli korpusi 

10 sxvadasxva misamarTze. eseni aris: 

petriaSvilis 28 (1 korpusi); petriaSvilis 

25 (3 korpusi); arayiSvilis 14 (1 

korpusi); arayiSvilis 16 (1 korpusi); TamaraSvilis 

13 (3 korpusi); mcxeTis 17 (1 

korpusi) da yazbegis 24 (8 korpusi); 

postkrizisul periodSi 8 sxvadasxva 

misamarTze dasrulda 20 mravalsarTuliani 

sacxovrebeli korpusis mSenebloba. 

eseni aris: „sairme palasi” (1 korpusi); 

kedias 10 (1 korpusi); abaSiZis 34/36 

(2 korpusi); WavWavaZis 75 (2 korpusi); Wav- 

WavaZis 49 (1 korpusi); kartozias quCa (2 

korpusi); „palasi 1" (7 korpusi) da „palasi 

2" (4 korpusi). 

„aqsisis” menejmentSi acxadeben, rom 

kompanias imTaviTve srulad hqonda 

gaazrebuli momxmareblis winaSe aRebuli 

pasuxismgebloba da bazarze 

siZneleebis Seqmnis dRidanve, etapobrivad, 

stabilurad, yvela nakisri valdebuleba 

sisruleSi mohyavs. 

giorgi kapanaZis gancxadebiT, postkrizisuli 

periodis mSeneblobebidan 

2017-2018 wlebSi „aqsisi” uklebliv yvela 

momxmarebels daakmayofilebs igive 

pirobebiT da gaumjobesebuli infrastruqturiT. 

kerZod, 2017 wels „aqsisi” gegmavs 

daasrulos Semdegi proeqtebi: kedias 10 

(2 korpusi); „palasi 1" (I da VI korpusebi) 

da „palasi 2" (IV da VI korpusebi). 2018 

wels dasruldeba „palasi 1" (VII korpusi) 

da „sairme palasi” (II korpusi). 

mediaturis monawileebi, aseve, gaecnen 

im axal proeqtebsac, romelTac „aqsisi” 

2017-2018 wlebSi ganaxorcielebs. 

maT Sorisaa „aqsis palasis” savaWro centri, 

sadac sul male gaixsneba saqarTveloSi 

moqmedi hipermarketebis erTerTi 

yvelaze farTo qselis filiali da 

10 000 m2 farTobis avtosadgomi. amave 

periodSi dasruldeba kartozias quCis 

proeqti (III korpusi), WavWavaZis 75 (III da 

IV korpusebi) da winamZRvriSvilis proeqti 

(I da I korpusebi). 

sainteresoa isic, rom am obieqtebis 

umetesobaze „aqsisi”, saxlis marTvis 

kuTxiT, gegmavs danergos saqarTvelos 

realobaSi uprecedento momsaxureba, _ 

konsierJis servisi. 

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gela mamulaSvili 

599 45 50 26 

am dReebSi, „rusTavis azo- 

tis” TanamSromlebi dacvis samsaxurma qarxnis teritoriaze 

aRar SeuSva. gavrcelebuli informaciiT, „azotis” axalma 

menejmentma 350 muSa samsaxuridan gaaTavisufla. rogorc 

aRniSnaven, isini, ZiriTadad, sapensio asakis adamianebi arian. 

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am Temaze „qronika+”-s esaubre- 

ba saqarTvelos metalurgiuli, 

samTo da qimiuri mrewvelobis 

muSakTa profesiuli kavSiris Ta- 

vmjdomare _ Tamaz dolaberiZe: 

_ batono Tamaz, ra procesebi 

mimdinareobs „rusTavis azotSi” 

da es ra problemebs iwvevs? 

_ mimdinare wlis 25 ianvridan 

sawarmo „azotSi” dasaqmebulTa 

masobrivi ganTavisufleba mimdinareobs. 

yvela TanamSromeli samuSaodakargulad 

gamoacxades; Semdeg 

axali Sromis kontraqtebi 

gauformdaT, romelic 350 adamians 

ar gauformes. maT uTxres, rom 

maTi saSvi dablokilia da samuSaodan 

gaSvebuli arian. Cvens xelT 

arsebuli informaciiT, ori dRis 

winaT kompaniis warmomadgenlebi 

qalaq rusTavis meriaSi hyavdaT 

miwveuli, sadac maT ganucxadebiaT, 

rom, saerTo jamSi, 700 adamianis 

ganTavisuflebas apireben. 

im dasaqmebulTa Sromis axali 

kontraqtebi ki, romlebic ar gaa- 

Tavisufles, Seicavs uamrav kabalur 

punqts da saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobasTan 

absoluturad Seusabamoa. 

adamianebs ar aZleven sa- 

Sualebas, xuTgverdiani, wvrili 

SriftiT dawerili Sromis kontraqti 

waikiTxon, gaiazron, Tu 

saWirod miiCneven, iuristis konsultacia 

miiRon. maT aiZuleben, 

kontraqts momentalurad moaweron 

xeli, Tanac imis Sesaxeb afrTxileben, 

rom xelis myisierad armoweris 

SemTxvevaSi umuSevroba 

emuqrebaT. 

_ problemebis mizezebi ra 

aris? 

_ „rusTavis azotis” irgvliv 

mimdinare „ucnauri” procesebis 

Sesaxeb saqarTvelos profesiuli 

kavSirebis gaerTianeba da saqar- 

Tvelos metalurgiuli, samTo da 

qimiuri mrewvelobis muSakTa profesiuli 

kavSiri, jer kidev, 2016 

wlis dasawyisidan saubrobda da 

ganmartebebs, informaciebis gasajaroebas 

iTxovda. 

2016 wlis dasawyisidan, kompania 

„sokaris” mier bunebriv airze 

„rusTavis azotisTvis”, TiTqosda, 

araadekvaturi fasis dawesebis gamo, 

sawarmo SeferxebebiT muSaobda. 

paralelurad, Seqmnil mdgomareobasTan 

yovlad Seusabamod, 

saqarTvelos mTavroba da kompaniis 

administracia, evropis rekonstruqciisa 

da ganviTarebis bank- 

Tan, warmatebiT dasrulebul molaparakebas 

aanonsebdnen „rusTavis 

azotis” as milion larze metiT 

dafinansebasTan dakavSirebiT. 

yovelive amis Semdeg, 2016 wlis 

ivlisSi, bunebrivi airis fasTan 

dakavSirebuli problemebis gamo, 

sawarmo kvlav gaCerda, amis paralelurad 

ki, sainformacio saagentoebis 

vebgverdebze gavrcelda 

informacia, rom kompaniam sawarmos 

Senoba-nagebobebisa da sxva ZiriTadi 

saSualebebis nawili gaasxvisa. 

es faqti ki kompaniam uaryo 

da dezinformaciad Seafasa. ramdenime 

dRis Semdeg aRmovaCineT, 

rom sajaro reestrSi dafiqsirebulebi 

arian viRac pirebi, romel- 

Ta mimarT sawarmos davalianeba 

aqvs. rodesac kompaniis warmomadgenlebs 

ganmartebebis misaRebad 

kvlav mivmarTeT, gvipasuxes, rom 

es Cveni saqme ar aris. 

profkavSirma 2016 wlis 15 seqtembers 

organizeba gaukeTa saprotesto 

aqcias moTxovniT: „gasajarovdes 

informaciebi azotTan 

dakavSirebiT”, ris Semdegac qarxnis 

erT-erTma mflobelma, roman 

fifiam, qarxnis Sida perimetrze 

kontraqcia gamarTa da xalxs uTxra, 

rom profkavSirebs politikuri 

interesi aqvT da imitom arian 

dakavebuli populizmiT, sinamdvileSi 

ki yvelaferi kargad aris, 

eg ki ara, momaval wels xelfasebis 

odenobis gaormagebas vapirebo. 

yovelive amis Semdeg daiwyo 

profkavSiris wevrebis mimarT masobrivi 

devna da mxolod oqtomberSi 

100-mde wevrma datova profkavSiris 

rigebi. am tendenciis 

SemCnevisTanave Sromis saministros 

Setyobineba gavugzavneT koleqtiuri 

SromiTi davis mediaciiT 

gadawyvetis moTxovniT. 

mediaciis farglebSi, kompaniis 

administraciis warmomadgenlebTan, 

Sromis saministros SenobaSi, 

erTi Sexvedra Sedga. mediatorma 

(levan JorJoliani) mxareebs dagvavala, 

rom SeTanxmebis ormxrivad 

misaRebi proeqti mogvemzadebina 

da mediatorisTvis wargvedgina. 

profkavSirma amgvari proeqti moamzada, 

Tumca kompaniam kvlav 

profkavSiris SeTavazebis ignorireba 

moaxdina. 

es yovelive, satelefono saubris 

meSveobiT, Sromis, janmrTelobisa 

da socialuri dacvis saministros 

warmomadgenels vacnobeT 

da vTxoveT, rom mediatori kvlav 

CarTuliyo saqmeSi, radgan kompania 

profkavSirTan pirdapir molaparakebebs 

Tavs aridebda. 

saministrodan gvipasuxes, rom 

mediatori, romelic konkretulad 

am saqmisTvis iyo daniSnuli, 

Seicvala da axali mediatori ramdenime 

dReSi gamovidoda kontaqtze, 

Tumca es dRemde ar momxdara. 

faqtobrivad, profkavSiri da 

kompania, mimdinare periodisTvis, 

koleqtiuri SromiTi davis procesSi 

imyofebian, radgan procedurulad 

mediacia dasrulebuli 

ar gaxlavT. swored mediaciis 

procesisadmi amgvarma damokidebulebam 

gaaRrmava „rusTavis azotTan” 

dakavSirebuli problemebi. 

2016 wlis 30 ianvars sawarmo 

gaCerda, isev bunebrivi airis fasis 

problemiT. Tumca, amave dros, 

Seicvala menejmenti da procesebis 

marTva „saqarTvelos bankis” 

warmomadgenlebma daiwyes. dargobrivi 

profesiuli kavSiris pirveladi 

organizaciis Tavmjdomares, 

gela biWiaSvils, ramdenime Sexvedra 

hqonda menejmentis warmomadgenlebTan 

_ soso gozaliSvilTan 

da levan burdilaZesTan, romlebTanac 

SeTanxmebas miaRwies, 

rom uaxloes dReebSi menejmenti 

profkavSiris warmomadgenlobiT 

Semadgenlobas Sexvdeboda, romelSic 

CarTuli iqnebodnen mxare- 

ratom 

gaaTavisufla 

`rusTavis azotma~ 

masobrivad 

TanamSromlebi? 

Ta iuristebic. Sexvedraze ganixileboda 

kompaniis gegmebi da Sejerdeboda 

poziciebi dasaqmebis, 

sawarmos muSaobis, SesaZlo Semcirebebisa 

Tu reorganizaciis Sesaxeb. 

miuxedavad imisa, rom kompaniis 

administracia axlac ambobs, mzadaa 

Sexvedra Sedges momaval kviras 

(30 ianvari _ 5 Tebervali), 2017 

wlis 20 ianvridan kompaniam ukve 

daiwyo dasaqmebulTa Semcirebaze 

saubari; xolo 25 ianvridan ki 

procesebi forsirebulad da sruli 

kanondarRveviT warmarTa. am 

SemTxvevaSi ki Sexvedra mizans kargavs, 

radgan 3-4 dReSi kompania ukve 

daasrulebs wamowyebul process. 

_ vis ekisreba pasuxismgebloba 

Seqmnil mdgomareobaze, adamianebis 

masobrivad umuSevrad da- 

tovebaze? 

_ momxdarze pasuxismgebloba, 

ra Tqma unda, pirvel rigSi, ekisreba 

kompanias da aseve xelisuflebasac, 

romelic, minimum, valdebulia, 

uzrunvelyos Sromis 

kanonmdeblobis dacva, mSromelTa 

uflebebis darRvevis aRkveTa, 

procesebis kanonier CarCoebSi dabruneba, 

damsaqmebelsa da profkavSirs 

Soris efeqtiani socialuri 

dialogis damyareba _ mimdinare 

mediaciis farglebSi Sromis 

axali kontraqtebis, Sromis Sinaganawesisa 

da Sromis pirobebTan 

dakavSirebuli sxva dokumentaciis 

erToblivad ganxilva da damtkiceba. 

_ gamosavali? ra gziT unda 

gadawydes es problema? 

_ pirvel rigSi, unda aRdges 

status kvo, anu ganTavisuflebuli 

adamianebi uklebliv unda 

daabrunon samuSao adgilebze. amis 

Semdeg unda moxdes „rusTavis 

azotis” TanamSromlebis, profkav- 

Sirebisa da farTo sazogadoebis 

informireba imasTan dakavSirebiT, 

Tu ratom da ra formiT moxda 

„rusTavis azotis” menejmentis 

cvlileba. bolos ki kompaniam 

keTili unda inebos da daasabu- 

Tos, riT iyo ganpirobebuli da ra 

aucileblobas warmoadgenda dasaqmebulTa 

masobrivi daTxovnis 

Sesaxeb gadawyvetilebis miReba 

maSin, rodesac „rusTavis azoti” 

erT-erTi warmatebuli qarTuli 

sawarmoa, romelic sakuTar produqcias 

sakmaod warmatebulad yidis 

msoflios 90-ze met qveyanaSi?! 

swored es moTxovnebia dafiqsirebuli 

werilSi, romelic saqarTvelos 

metalurgiuli, samTo 

da qimiuri mrewvelobis muSakTa 

profesiuli kavSiris saxeliT 27 

ianvars gaegzavna saqarTvelos 

premier-ministrs, socialuri partniorobis 

sammxrivi komisiis Tavmjdomare 

giorgi kvirikaSvils; 

saqarTvelos ekonomikisa da mdgradi 

ganviTarebis ministr giorgi 

gaxarias; saqarTvelos Sromis, 

janmrTelobisa da socialuri 

dacvis ministr daviT sergeenkos; 

saqarTvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare 

irakli kobaxiZes; saqar- 

Tvelos parlamentis adamianis 

uflebaTa dacvisa da samoqalaqo 

integraciis komitetis Tavmjdomare 

sofio kilaZes; da saqarTvelos 

parlamentis iuridiul sakiTxTa 

komitetis Tavmjdomare eka 

beselias. 

qarxanaSi mimdinare xmaurian 

procesebTan 

dakavSirebiT 

„rusTavis azotis” administracia 

Semdegi Sinaarsis ganmartebas 

akeTebs: 

_ Sps „rusTavis azotma”, jer 

kidev, agvistoSi ganacxada, rom 

rTuli finansuri mgomareobis 

gamo, molaparakebebs awarmoebda 

kreditorebTan valebis restruqturizaciis 

mizniT. 

gasuli wlis seqtembridan qarxanas 

hyavs axali mesakuTre, Tumca 

dekembris CaTvliT qarxnis operirebas 

awarmoebda Sps „rusTavis 

azoti”. 

samwuxarod, 2017 wlis ianvridan 

Sps „rusTavis azotma” veRar 

SeZlo qarxnis saqmianobis uzrunvelyofa, 

ramac qarxnis SeCereba 

gamoiwvia. 

qarxnis axali mesakuTre amJamad 

garkveul zomebs mimarTavs 

qarxnis kvlav sruli datvirTviT 

asamuSaveblad. 

paralelurad, axalma mesakuTrem 

sakuTar Tavze aiRo qarxnis 

muSa-mosamsaxureTa udidesi nawilis 

(daaxloebiT, 90%) saxelfaso 

anazRaurebis gadaxda (maT Soris, im 

periodSic, sanam qarxana gaCerebulia) 

da am kadrebTan Sesabamisi SromiTi 

xelSekrulebebi formdeba. 

qarxnis sruli datvirTviT amu- 

Savebis SemTxvevaSi, axalma investorma, 

SesaZloa, damatebiTi kadrebis 

dasaqmebis sakiTxic ganixilos. 

Sesabamisad, gavrcelebuli informacia 

imis Taobaze, rom qarxnidan 

TanamSromlebs masobrivad 

iTxoven, simarTles ar Seesabameba. 

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Tamar oTiaSvili 


gasuli wlis 18 ianvars saqarTvelos teqnikuri universite- 

tis akademiur sabWoSi reqtoris vakanturi Tanamdebobis 

dasakaveblad arCevnebi Catarda. arCevnebSi ori kandidati 

monawileobda: saqarTvelos teqnikuri universitetis profesori 

goderZi tyeSelaSvili da saqarTvelos teqnikuri universitetis 

reqtori arCil frangiSvili. arCevani arCil frangiSvilze 

gakeTda, romelic 2008-2009 wlebSi teqnikuri univer- 

sitetis reqtoris movaleobas asrulebda, ris Semdegac 2009, 

2012 da 2016 wlebSi universitetis reqtorad airCies. 

„qronika+”-s 

esaubreba 

goderZi tyeSelaSvili: 

_ „umaRlesi ganaTlebis Sesaxeb 

kanoniT”, umaRles saswavleblebSi, 

romelic saxelmwifos mier 

aris dafuZnebuli, ar SeiZleba, 

rom reqtori, administraciis 

xelmZRvaneli, akademiuri sabWos 

wevrebi da dekanebi mesame vadiT 

airCion. vada ganisazRvreba saganmanaTleblo 

safexuris yvelaze 

xangrZlivi droiT, anu CvenTan bakalavriati 

oTxwliania da es vada 

rva wels moicavs, reqtori mesame 

vadiT ar unda iyos arCeuli. 

„umaRlesi ganaTlebis Sesaxeb kanons” 

me-16, me-18, me-20, 22-e da 87- 

e muxlebi aregulirebs. teqnikur 

universitetSi es kanoni darRveulia. 

roca reqtoris arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT 

gancxadeba gakeTda, vicodi, 

rac moxdeboda, magram gancxadeba 

mainc davwere _ mec mqonda 

pretenzia, rom reqtorobis kandidati 

vyofiliyavi. arCevnebi 

gasuli wlis ianvarSi Catarda. sistema 

aseTia: reqtors irCevs akademiuri 

sabWo, sadac TiTo fakultetidan 

or-ori kacia warmodgenili. 

CvenTan maSin rva fakulteti 

iyo (axla, mgoni, TerTmetia) 

da akademiuri sabWo, Sesabamisad, 

Teqvsmeti kacisgan Sedgeboda. Ria, 

Tavisufali arCevnebi ar yofila 

da iqidan xmas rom aravin momcemda 

da verc momcemda, vicodi, magram 

mainc ase gadavwyvite. moqmedma 

reqtorma, batonma arCil frangiSvilma, 

ra Tqma unda, gancxadeba 

Seitana, romelic saarCevno komisias 

ar unda mieRo, radgan es kanonis 

uxeSi darRveva iyo, magram 

miiRo, akademiur sabWoSi ki misi 

xalxi iyo da, ra Tqma unda, xmac 

mas misca. sxvaTa Soris, Tavidan 

gamocxadda da saitzec dades, rom 

viTom 17 xma miiRo, magram mere 

dafiqrdnen, mixvdnen, rom zedmeti 

mouvidaT da 17 Secvales 16 

xmiT... 

_ mas Semdeg, rac moxda, sazogadoebisTvis 

cnobilia: Tqveni 

da Tqveni Tanamoazreebis pro- 

testi quCaSi gagrZelda, Semdeg 

ki arCevnebis baTilad cnobisa da 

xelaxali arCevnebis Catarebis 

moTxovniT sasamarTlos mimarTeT... 

ra xdeba dRes, ratom mox- 

vediT redaqciaSi? 

_ imitom movedi, rom sazogadoebam 

gaigos, ra situaciaa, saer- 

Tod, umaRlesi ganaTlebis sferoSi... 

teqnikuri universiteti, 

umeteswilad, Semosavlebzea orientirebuli, 

romlis miRebasac 

yvelanairad cdilobs: restornebze, 

sasadiloebze farTebi ijariT 

gasces... iseTi paradoqsuli 

situaciac aris, rom pirveli korpusis 

wina ezoSi profesorebis 

manqanebs ar uSveben. iq restorani 

aaSenes da im restornis klientebi 

da TanamSromlebi ayeneben 

manqanebs, Cven ki _ vera. is farTi 

am restoranze ijariT gaica. rac 

Seexeba teqnikuri universitetis 

mesame korpuss, Tu daakvirdebiT, 

mTeli mesame korpusis pirveli 

sarTuli restornebad iqca; meore 

korpusis ezoSi profilaqtikaa; 

teqnikurma universitetma daTmo 

Tavisi mexuTe da mecxre korpusebi, 

sportuli darbazi, sportuli 

moedani, sacurao auzi... ase nelnela 

iyideba teqnikuri universiteti. 

_ Tqveni azriT, ra unda gakeT- 

des, ras iTxovT? 

_ xelisuflebas kanonis dacva 

movTxovoT, radgan es arCevnebi 

aralegitimuri, kanonsawinaaRmdego 

iyo, kanoniereba aRdges. 

_ imedi gaqvT, rom teqnikur 

universitetSi arCevnebi xelaxla 

rom Catardes, gaimarjvebT? 

_ magas didi mniSvneloba ar 

aqvs, me gavimarjveb Tu sxva, ukanonoba 

ar unda iyos. roca organizaciasa 

da sajaro sivrceSi ukanonobaa, 

es met ukanonobas badebs. 

_ ganaTlebis saministro 

arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT teqni- 

kuri universitetis qmedebaSi 

ukanonos verafers xedavs. 

_ ganaTlebis saministro da ganaTlebis 

ministri ver gascda 

zRaprebis dones. ras hqvia, ukanono 

ar aris?! aba, kanonSi risTvis 

aris Canaweri, visTvis gakeTda?! 

ganaTlebis saministros pasuxi 

absurdulia, rasac „saerTaSoriso 

gamWvirvaloba _ saqarTvelosa” da 

„samarTliani arCevnebis” poziciac 

amtkicebs, rom me marTali var 

da kanoni darRveulia. garda am 

organizaciebisa, pirad saubarSi 

yvela meTanxmeba, rom ar SeiZleba 

mesame vadiT arCeva. 

sakiTxi saxalxo damcvelma 

dawvrilebiT Seiswavla da misi 

daskvnac aseTia: saqarTvelos teqnikur 

universitetSi reqtoris 

arCevis wesi darRveulia, rac 

ukanonobaa. ganaTlebis saministros 

garda saqarTvelos premiersa 

da sasamarTlos mivmarTeT. sasamarTlo 

saqmes aWianurebs, jiutad 

ar ixilavs, premierma saer- 

Tod ar gvipasuxa, ganaTlebis saministro 

ki am sistemas amarTlebs 

da safuZvlad mohyavs is, rom 2012 

wels, roca sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli 

piri, teqnikuri univer- 


goderZi tyeSelaSvili: 

`vadis aTvla, erTi, 

romis papma daiwyo 

da romis papi myavs 

teqnikuri 

universiteti?!~ 

siteti, arakomerciul iuridiul 

pirad gadakeTda, maSin wesdebac 

Seicvala, romlis mixedviTac vadis 

aTvla 2012 wlidan unda daiwyos. 

rogor SeiZleba, aseTi kanonsawinaaRmdego 

Canaweri gakeTdes 

wesdebaSi? ras hqvia, vadis 

aTvla aqedan daiwyos? vadis aTvla, 

erTi, romis papma daiwyo da 

romis papi myavs teqnikuri universiteti, 

Tu ra xdeba, ver gavige?!. 

_ ras fiqrobT, Tundac am 

kanonis aRsrulebis SemTxvevaSi, 

teqnikur universitetSi mog- 

vardeba problemebi? ra aris 

umTavresi problema? 

_ swavlebis donis amaRleba da 

samecniero kvleviTi muSaobis gacocxleba. 

saerTod mkvdaria yvelaferi. 

ramdenime saerTaSoriso 

organizacia akeTebs umaRlesi saswavleblebis 

reitingebs. Cven reitinguli 

teqnikuri universiteti 

viyaviT, dRes yvelaze didi reitinguli 

Sefaseba rac aris aTi aTasi 

universitetis CamonaTvalSi, 

aTi aTasSic ar varT. dRes XXI saukunea, 

teqnikis, informatikis, 

mecnierebis saukune da Tu qveyana 

inJiners ver gazrdis, amis saSualeba 

ar eqneba, civilizebuli 

erebis siidan samudamod amovardeba. 

inJinris moumzadebloba, uin- 

Jinro sazogadoeba aris masa, brbo 

da aqeTken mivdivarT... 

_ amaze ar zrunavs teqnikuri 

universitetis reqtori? 

_ rogor ggoniaT, aralegitimuri 

xelmZRvanelobis zrunvas 

raime Sedegi eqneba? roca yvelam 

icis, rom es arakanonieria, vinme 

daujerebs? an Tu daujerebs, is 

dajereba dajereba iqneba? 

_ sasamarTloSi Setanil 

Tqvens sarCelze ki aRniSneT, 

saqme Wianurdebao, magram ufro 

konkretulad ras gvetyviT? 

_ sasamarTlos or TveSi unda 

ganexila saqme, magram, rogorc iqna, 

11 Tvis Semdeg ganixila da gaaCera: 

Seni interesebi ar Selaxulao, 

_ zepirad gamoacxada. or 

kviraSi ganCineba werilobiT unda 

moewodebina, rom zemdgom instanciaSi 

gasaCivrebis saSualeba mqonoda, 

magram erT Tveze meti gavida, 

vrekav da meubnebian, mzad ar 

aris, bevri saqme gvaqvs, daelodeT 

da roca iqneba, gagagebinebTo. es 

aris sasamarTlo?! 

_ gasaCivrebas apirebT? 

_ ra Tqma unda, zemdgom instanciaSi 

gavasaCivreb, Tumca arc imis 

didi imedi maqvs, magram mjera, 

sazogadoeba ar gaCerdeba. 

*** 

amonaweri saxalxo damcvelis 

daskvnidan saqarTvelos teqni- 

kur universitetSi reqtoris 

arCevis wesis darRvevasTan dakav- 

SirebiT: „mimaCnia, rom saqarTvelos 

teqnikur universitetSi 2016 

wlis 18 ianvris arCevnebi Catarda 

kanonis moTxovnaTa darRveviT. 

arCil frangiSvili 

amasTan, darRveul iqna reqtorobis 

kandidatTa kanonis winaSe Tanasworobis 

principi, riTac Seilaxa 

reqtorobis kandidatebis, maT 

Soris, goderZi tyeSelaSvilis 

kanonieri ufleba da interesi”. 

saxalxo damcvelma rekomendaciiT 

mimarTa aseve saqarTvelos 

ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis ministrs 

da saqarTvelos teqnikuri 

universitetis saarCevno komisias. 

pasuxebi orive mxridan calsaxad 

erTmniSvnelovania: arakanonier 

qmedebas adgili ar hqonia. 

„qronika+”-ma komentarisTvis 

saqarTvelos teqnikuri universitetis 

sazogadoebasTan urT- 

ierTobis departaments mimarTa: 

_ pirvel yovlisa, madlobas 

movaxseneb „qronika+”-s dainteresebisTvis, 

gaaSuqos meore mxaris 

pozicia, Tumca interviuSi moyvanil 

„faqtebze” saqarTvelos teqnikuri 

universitetis sazogadoebasTan 

urTierTobis departamentma 

araerTxel gasca motivirebuli 

pasuxi da rom ara Jurnalistisadmi 

didi pativiscema, amjerad 

batoni goderZis morig usafuZvlo 

mosazrebebs pasuxs ar 

gavcemdiT. 

simarTle giTxraT, mas Semdeg, 

rac batonma goderZim da misma 

oTxma (aqedan erTi ar aris stuis 

TanamSromeli) mxardamWerma 

sruli kraxi ganicades da maT mier 

stu-is administraciis Senoba- 

Si mimdinare e. w. aqcias aravin gamoexmaura, 

sasamarTloSi (romelsac 

imave moTxovnebiT mimarTes, 

rasac TqvenTan interviuSi acxadebs) 

ki procesi waages. ar gvegona, 

Tu is kidev gaagrZelebda 

„brZolas”, magram raki goderZi 

tyeSelaSvili verafriT egueba 

mocemulobas, SevaxsenebT: Tbilisis 

saqalaqo sasamarTlos administraciul 

saqmeTa kolegiis 2016 

wlis 22 dekembris gadawyvetilebiT, 

goderZi tyeSelaSvilis sar- 

Celi saqarTvelos teqnikuri universitetis 

2016 wlis 18 ianvris 

reqtoris arCevnebTan dakavSirebiT 

dauSveblad iqna cnobili da 

saqmis warmoeba usafuZvlobis gamo 

Sewyda. sasarCelo moTxovna dausabuTebeli 

iyo da ar dgindeboda 

gasaCivrebuli aqtiT, rogor 

Seilaxa mosarCelis (goderZi tye- 

SelaSvili) ufleba an/da kanonieri 

interesi. samwuxaroa, rom 

batoni goderZi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas 

ar cnobs, metic, sadavod 

xdis da raki yvela samarTlebrivi 

gza amoewura, samarTals 

sxvadasxva redaqciaSi eZebs. 

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Tamar oTiaSvili 


„miuxedavad imisa, rom „qarTuli ocnebis” momxre viyavi da, 

sxvaTa Soris, dResac var, simarTlis damalvas, rac uaryofiT- 

ad imoqmedebs Cemianebze, Cems qveyanaze, ar vapireb da arc 

arafris meSinia”, _ „qronika+”-Tan ambobs momRerali Tamar 

WoxoneliZe da qveynisTvis marTlac rom saWirboroto sak- 

iTxebze amaxvilebs yuradRebas. 

Tamar WoxoneliZe: 

_ qalbatono Tamar, iyo peri- 

odi, rodesac momRerali qalba- 

toni sazogadoebriv-politikur 

asparezze sakmaod aqtiurobdiT... 

bolo xanebSi iSviaTad CanxarT, 

xalxs ki Tqveni azri aintere- 

sebs... ras fiqrobT dRes qveyana- 

Si mimdinare procesebze rogorc 

xelovani, rogorc erTi Cveu- 

lebrivi moqalaqe? 

_ pirvel rigSi, didi madloba 

minda giTxraT swored im frazis- 

Tvis, rac miTxariT, rom xalxs Cemi 

azri ainteresebs... madloba maT da, 

ra Tqma unda, upirveles yovlisa, 

Tqveni gazeTis mkiTxvels, Tumca 

ramdenad misaRebi da kompetenturia 

Cemi azri, es sxva sakiTxia, 

miT umetes, pirdapir getyviT, rom 

politikaSi Zalian arakompetenturi 

var. Tumca zustad iseT sakiTxebSi 

viyavi xolme aqtiuri da 

zogjer mZafri, romelic, garkveulwilad, 

politikas exeboda, magram 

es iyo erT-erTi rigiTi moqalaqis 

mier danaxuli viTareba, 

romelic mogwonda, an ar mogwonda. 

amitom, sxvaTa Soris, Zalian 

didxans vicade, vuyurebdi da vaanalizebdi 

situacias maSin, rodesac 

qveynis saTaveSi saakaSvilis 

xelisufleba movida. pirveli 

efeqti sakmaod didi iyo, Tundac 

kriminalebTan mimarTebiT; iyo dapirebebi, 

romelic TiTqos daiZra 

da win midioda, magram me iseTi ram 

davinaxe, rac CemTvis yovelTvis 

miuRebeli iyo da aris _ movlenebis 

arasworad Sefaseba. sapirispiro 

azris mqone konkretuli 

pirovnebebi Tu dajgufebebi, romlebic 

yvelafer imis winaaRmdeg 

gamovidnen, rac qveyanaSi ar vargoda, 

Sen mtrad miiCnie. rodesac 

moyvares „pirSi uZraxes pozicia 

aqvs”, keTili inebe da miiRe misi 

rCeva, radgan Sens nakls sxva namdvilad 

aravin getyvis. Tu ar miiReb, 

mtrad mainc nu eqcevi. ai, es 

gaakeTes saakaSvilis xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebma da ierarqiulad 

dabal safexurze mdgomma adamianebmac, 

riTac, realurad, 

Zalian bevri saqme gaufuWes qveyanas 

da sakuTar Tavsac. amitom 

amxedrda xalxi da mec erT-erTi 

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maTgani viyavi maT Soris, imitom, 

rom vxedavdi, ra xdeboda kulturaSi. 

sxvaTa Soris, xSirad, 

ratomRac, „dablokilTa sias” mimawerdnen, 

magram me ar vfiqrob, 

rom dablokili viyavi, imitom, rom 

ver damblokes. amas xazgasmiT 

aRvniSnav. „dablokva” niSnavs ara 

marto imas, rom, davuSvaT, scenaze 

ar gagiSveben, an sadRac ar dagakaveben. 

ki, es ase iyo, namdvilad 

_ maTgan SemoTavazebebi ar yofila, 

magram dablokvas ufro sxvagvarad 

vuyureb: rodesac Sens pirovnebas 

maqsimalurad Trgunaven, 

xalxSi ar giSveben, Seni azris gamoxatvis 

saSualebas ar gaZleven... 

me es yvelaferi mqonda, veravin 

dambloka. amis dasturi iyo is, 

rom swored xelisuflebaSi maTi 

yofnis periodSi gavakeTe rezo 

laRiZis proeqti. ase rom, am TvalsazrisiT 

veravin veraferi damaklo, 

Tumca kulturaSi namdvilad 

iyo mikerZoeba, sul sami-oTxi sa- 

Sualo monacemis adamiani boboqrobda 

scenaze, Tu SeiZleba, ase 

iTqvas, sxvebi ki _ Cems Tavs ar 

vgulisxmob, axalgazrdebi myavs 

mxedvelobaSi, iCagrebodnen imis 

gamo, rom viRaca viRacas zedmetad 

ar epirfera. aRar vlaparakob 

im siRrmeebze, romelic, ubralod, 

amoraluri iyo CemTvis. 

_ mainc, ras gulisxmobT? 

_ pirdapir getyviT: videoebi 

maqvs nanaxi, rogor eqceva erTerTi 

aseTi, ase vTqvaT, „dedofali” 

maSindel Tavis ufros kolegebs, 

Tanatolebs, orkestrantebs, 

romlebTanac muSaobs. es CemTvis 

aRmaSfoTebeli da erT-erTi bi- 

Zgic iyo, aqciebze davmdgariyavi _ 

isini unda wasuliyvnen! mivxvdi, 

saerTod is sistema unda dangreuliyo. 

verasdros warmovidgendi, 

rom rodesme aqciaze davdgebodi, 

magram aqtiurad videqi, radgan is 

iyo CemTvis Zalian didi uzneoba 

bevri Secdomis fonze da isini 

unda wasuliyvnen. dRes rom amboben, 

davuSvaT, adre ase ar iyo, 

axla uaresi mdgomareobaao, maSin 

kargad rom malavdnen yvelafers, 

es imas ar niSnavs, rom kargi mdgomareoba 

iyo sxvadasxva sferoSi. 

rac kulturaSi xdeboda, CemTvis 

`xSirad, ratomRac, "dablokilTa sias" 

mimawerdnen, magram me ar vfiqrob, rom 

dablokili viyavi, imitom, rom ver damblokes. 

amas xazgasmiT aRvniSnav. "dablokva" niSnavs ara 

marto imas, rom, davuSvaT, scenaze ar 

gagiSveben, an sadRac ar dagakaveben. ki, es ase 

iyo, namdvilad - maTgan SemoTavazebebi ar 

yofila, magram dablokvas ufro sxvagvarad 

vuyureb: rodesac Sens pirovnebas maqsimalurad 

Trgunaven, xalxSi ar giSveben, Seni azris 

gamoxatvis saSualebas ar gaZleven... me es 

yvelaferi mqonda, veravin dambloka. amis 

dasturi iyo is, rom swored xelisuflebaSi 

maTi yofnis periodSi gavakeTe rezo laRiZis 

proeqti. ase rom, am TvalsazrisiT veravin 

veraferi damaklo, Tumca kulturaSi 

namdvilad iyo mikerZoeba, sul sami-oTxi 

saSualo monacemis adamiani boboqrobda 

scenaze, Tu SeiZleba, ase iTqvas, sxvebi ki - Cems 

Tavs ar vgulisxmob, axalgazrdebi myavs 

mxedvelobaSi, iCagrebodnen imis gamo, rom 

viRaca viRacas zedmetad ar epirfera. aRar 

vlaparakob im siRrmeebze, romelic, ubralod, 

amoraluri iyo CemTvis~ 

Tamar 

WoxoneliZe: 

`simarTlis 

damalvas 

ar vapireb~ 

Sokismomgvreli aRmoCnda. 

_ da aqciebze tyuilad ar md- 

garxarT _ „isini” wavidnen. 

_ ki, wavidnen da movida „qarTuli 

ocneba”... minda giTxraT, rom 

„ocnebis” pirveli, ase vTqvaT, 

CemTvis aRsafrTovanebeli frazebi 

iyo: aranairi SurisZieba, aranairi 

dapirispireba, piriqiT, Cven 

unda viyoT erTni, yvelani erTni 

varT da ase Semdeg... samwuxarod, 

me es ver davinaxe. rogorc ki Zalaufleba 

maT xelSi aRmoCnda, 

garkveulwilad, viRacebis gamorCeva 

mainc moxda, cudadac da kargadac. 

es avadmyofoba, rasac ziz- 

Ri hqvia, xom saerTod ver aRmovfxveriT. 

zizRis eniT laparaki 

imdenad damTrgunveli iyo im 

xelisuflebaSi, xalxs, ubralod, 

sicocxle aRar undoda, dResac 

aranaklebi problemaa. nuTu, Seu- 

Zlebelia, saqarTveloSi aseTi 

zizRi ar daiTesos erTmaneTis mimarT? 

gansakuTrebiT raze vnerviulob, 

iciT? _ erTia, rom Zalian 

ar momwons da saSinlad viTrgunebi, 

rodesac nebismier telearxze, 

sadac gadavrTav, zizRis eniT 

laparakoben, magram meorea, rom 

modis Taoba, romelsac, ubralod, 

iavnanasaviT esmis es yvelaferi da 

ra garantia gaqvs, rom is iseTive 

agresiuli ar iqneba nebismieri 

movlenisa Tu adamianis, Tundac, 

erTmaneTis mimarT? aranairi, 

radgan agresiul, zizRis garemo- 

Si izrdeba. es CemTvis Zalian 

damTrgunvelia. „qarTulma ocnebam”, 

am TvalsazrisiT, verafers 

miaRwia da, sxvaTa Soris, axlac 

vicdi Zalian didi imediT, egeb, 

droTa ganmavlobaSi, Secdomebze 

raRac-raRacebi gamoswordes. 

Tumca imasac getyviT, rac megona, 

rom Zalian male gamoswordeboda... 

_ gismenT... 

_ raRacnairad, moqalaqed 

cota naklebad vigrZeni Tavi. gavixseneb, 

Tundac, im faqts, rodesac 

Cemma qaliSvilma, mariamma, 

Rirseulad Caabara gamocdebi 

italiaSi da garkveuli gverdSi 

dgoma sWirdeboda dafinansebas- 

Tan dakavSirebiT, ise, rogorc 

yvela axalgazrda students, romelic 

ucxoeTSi midis. man gancxadeba 

Seitana kulturis saministroSi, 

rasac reagireba ar mohyolia. 

es wina ministris dros iyo. 

Semdeg kvlav Seitana gancxadeba 

da erT dResac mirekaven: „iciT, 

qalbatono Tamriko, mariamis dafinanseba 

amjerad ar moxerxda”. am 

yvelafers Zalian jansaRad miviRebdi, 

rom ara erTi damafiqrebeli 

faqtori, _ ras niSnavs telefonze 

darekva? rom ar micnobde 

da mariams deda hyavdes, davuSvaT, 

aracnobadi, telefonze daurekav? 

ratom ar qmni imis sabuTs, rom 

uari uTxari axalgazrda, swavlas 

mowyurebul students dafinansebaze? 

ratom werilobiT ar qmni 

dokuments, rom es ase moxda? mere 

ra? albaT, ar iyo saWiro, albaT, 

im SemTxvevaSi kulturis saministro 

ver axerxebda dafinansebas da 

uari miviReT, ara uSavs, magram ra 

formiT? me im wuTSi moqalaqed 

veranairad vigrZeni Tavi, ra qveyanaSi 

viyavi, ver mivxvdi! msgavsi 

araswori raRac-raRacebi axlac 

meordeba. sxvebisgan gansxvavebiT 

me vafiqsireb amas da didi imedi 

maqvs, rom ugunurebas ar gamoiCenen 

dRevandeli xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebi, Tu vinc arian 

(ar vici, vis xelewifeba, viRac 

dablokos) da imis gamo, rom xmama- 

Rla vTqvi Cemi qveynis satkivari, 

mtrad meqcnen. miuxedavad imisa, 

rom „qarTuli ocnebis” momxre 

viyavi da, sxvaTa Soris, dResac 

var, simarTlis damalvas, rac uaryofiTad 

imoqmedebs Cemianebze, 

Cems qveyanaze, ar vapireb da arc 

arafris meSinia. 

qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebze 

ki, kidev erTxel vambob, rom mocdis 

reJimSi var da imedi minda 

viqonio, es yvelaferi gamosworebadia, 

_ Secdomebze swavla Zalian 

kargi gamocdilebaa. 

_ qveyanas, sadac, dRevandel 

etapze, mZime socialur-eko- 

nomikuri mdgomareobaa... 

_ Zalian mZime, magram yvelafers 

maT nu davabralebT, imitom, 

rom Zalian bevri codva wamoikides 

zurgze winamorbedi xelisuflebisgan. 

jer marto ramdeni 

vali aqvT mokidebuli? vfiqrob, 

iqneb, axla gamosworebis raRac 

fazaa da male ukeTesobisken wavideT. 

_ da es „male” rodemde SeiZle- 

ba gagrZeldes? 

_ ar vici, xalxs ramden xans 

eyofa moTmineba. Sokirebuli 

viyavi im honorarebiT, rasac samioTxi 

adamiani iRebda. ubralod, 

ver warmovidgendi, rom saqarTveloSi, 

im socialur-ekonomikuri 

mdgomareobis gaTvaliswinebiT, 

msgavsi ram moxdeboda. aTi aTas 

larebzea saubari da kidev ufro 

zeviT TiTo koncertSi. absoluturad 

fuWad ixarjeboda es Tanxebi. 

romelime maTgans saqarTvelos 

saxeli msoflio masStabiT 

rom gaetana, kidev ar inanebdi, magram 

dRes arafers warmoadgenen 

da amitom mwydeba guli. am dros 

Zalian bevri niWieri axalgazrda 

(xazs vusvam: arc Cemze vsaubrob 

da arc Cems Svilze. socialur qselSi 

yovelTvis aRvniSnav xolme, 

vin arian niWierebi da marTla ta- 

Sis dasakravi figurebi) iCagreboda, 

verc erTma moaxerxa sakuTari 

Tavis realizeba. Zalian bevri 

weli daakargvines axalgazrdebs. 

_ axla aqvT raime perspeqti- 

va? 

_ samwuxarod, jerjerobiT, 

aqac ver vxedav raime saimedos. 

droa, mixedon niWier axalgazrdebs. 

ukve kulturis sferoc 

da, zogadad, qveyana unda iyos 

momarTuli imisTvis, rom bevri 

niWieri adamiani SeiZleba gaiqces 

qveynidan. SeiZleba, Tavisi saqme 

maT iqac ver gaakeTon, sadarbazoebi 

daalagon, magram ukve bevri 

axalgazrdisgan (studentebTan 

maqvs urTierToba), Zalian bevri 

adamianisgan maqvs mosmenili, aRar 

minda am qveyanaSi cxovrebao, da 

namdvilad droulad unda vizrunoT 

amaze, droulad movubrunoT 

guli qveynisken. jerjerobiT, damaimedebeli 

mdgomareoba ar aris. 

mkveTrad vxedav erTs: es aris 

avadmyofuri damokidebuleba pirferobis 

mimarT. visac pirferoba 

SeuZlia, dRes gza Zalian aqvs 

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gakvaluli, magram me is adamianebi 

ufro maRizianeben, romlebsac 

epirferebian da amas irgeben. Cem- 

Tvis isini inteleqtualurad dabal 

doneze myofi adamianebi arian. 

samwuxarod, dRevandel cxovrebaSi 

imravla aseTma adamianebma. 

saqarTveloSi mamakaci naklebad 

kadrulobda am rolis morgebas. 

aseTi adamianebi yovelTvis gamokveTilebi 

iyvnen xolme jansaR 

wreebSi, miuTiTebdnen, rom mas SeuZlia 

mliqvneloba. dRes sagrZnoblad 

gaizarda maTi ricxvi da 

ukve yvelaferi erTmaneTSi airia. 

guli mwydeba, rom es saqarTvelo- 

Si xdeba, sadac vaJkacoba sxvagvarad 

aRiqmeboda. vaJkaci kaci namdvilad 

ar miiRebda im raRac moqonil 

sityvebsa da saqcielebs, 

rasac dRes iReben da amitom mwydeba 

guli. vaJkacobis cnebac 

ikargeba. 

_ gismenT da maxsendeba, 

„qarTuli ocnebis” xelisufleba- 

Si mosvlidan, sul raRac, erTi 

wlis Semdeg ambobdiT, _ saqarT- 

mReris, Tavi rom irCinos da me 

amas saTakilod ar miviCnev, magram 

is, rom Sen mas mxolod ucxoeTSi 

wasvlis da mere iqidan Camosvlis 

Semdeg aRiareb, es saSinelebaa. rac 

mTavaria, ukve ikargeba zRvari ni- 

Wiersa da Zalian niWiers Soris. 

_ ki magram, Tundac saSem- 

sruleblo teqnika aris ki dRes 

iseTi saqarTveloSi, rom saTana- 

dod iqnas gamoyenebuli? 

_ aris, magram, samwuxarod, 

ikargebian. jer marto Cemi Svilis 

TaobaSi, Tundac klasikur sferoSi, 

imdenia, rom... magaliTad, 

cota xnis winaT italiaSi Zalian 

seriozuli gamocda Caabara samma 

niWierma vokalistma, magram qveyanam 

verc erTi daafinansa da saswavleblad 

ver wavidnen. „Cven swavlas 

ar vafinansebT”, _ aseTi iyo 

pasuxi. ver vxvdebi, aba, ras afinanseben? 

xmamaRla vacxadeb, rom 

Zalian bevri niWieri adamiani zis 

saxlSi. 

_ saubarSi sityva „varskvlavi” 

vaxseneT... gasuli 2016 weli, al- 

baT, arasodes dagaviwydebaT _ 

_ aq ar ician da cxadia, rac ar 

ician, im kuTxiT ganaTleba ucxoeTSi 

unda miiRon. 

_ e. i. yvelaferi Tavidan aris 

dasawyebi? 

_ yvelaferi, SeiZleba, ara, magram 

Zalian bevri ram aris Tavidan 

dasawyebi da aq tyuilad drois 

xarjva ar Rirs... radgan gaxmovaneba 

vaxseneT, aqve unda iTqvas, rom 

Semsruleblebis garkveuli nawili 

mere Tavs imarTlebs: ici, ra, iZulebuli 

var, koncertze plus 

fonogramiT vimRero, televiziiT 

mravalmilionianma sazogadoebam 

kargi xarisxiT rom naxoso. solo 

koncertzea saubari. rodesac msmenels 

eubnebi, mobrZandi da momismineo 

da am dros cocxlad erT 

simReras ar mReri, es CemTvis, 

ubralod, Zalian didi uzneobaa. 

aq mxolod im 2500 kacze araa 

saubari, romelic darbazSi zis da 

tyuilze umRerian, aramed tyuils 

aCveven momaval Taobas. xom xedavT, 

mesamejer wavedi momavali 

Taobisken. 

_ da ram migviyvana aqamde? 

deni weliwadia, iciT? sadRac, 

Tvrameti, SeiZleba, metic. sisxlxorceuli 

gaxda CemTvis es saxelebi 

da Cveulebrivad vixsenieb 

locvebSi. ar dagimalavT, rodesac 

beras interviu movismine televiziiT, 

iseTi Rirsebebi gamoavlina, 

rom cremlebamde mivedi. Zalian 

sworad azrovnebs, kargi biWia. sxvaTa 

Soris, aqciebze Soridan SevxvdiT 

erTmaneTs da adamianebi, romlebic, 

„qarTuli ocnebis”, ase 

vTqvaT, erTgulebi iyvnen, rogorc 

ki bera an batoni biZina momesalmeboda, 

uceb Cndebodnen iqve 

axlos da Sinauruli toniT metyodnen 

xolme: „Tamriko, am adamianebs 

eCqarebaT, axla scenaze unda 

avidnen”. mecineboda. vxedavdi, 

keTilmosurneebi rogor „zrunavdnen” 

maTze da zustad im urTier- 

Tobaze, romelic Cven Soris ar 

unda Semdgariyo. bolos ukve 

cremlebamde vicinodi da winaswar 

vambobdi, _ axla naxeT, aucileblad 

mova es adamiani-meTqi. da 

asec xdeboda. Cemi megobrebi meubnebodnen, 

_ ar gvegona, marTla ase 

ba?” ar minda, aseTi kiTxvebi damisvan, 

minda, ufro meti imediani saxe 

da Zalian bevri Rimili davinaxo. 

_ dabolos, qalbatono Tamar, 

iyo vinme mTavrobidan Tqveni varskvlavis 

gaxsnisas solo kon- 

certze? 

_ ara, aravin yofila, CavTvale, 

rom ar ecalaT da ojaxis wevrebi 

gamouSves. yvelaze Zalian imaze 

mwydeba guli, rom oTxi solo koncerti 

Cavatare da miuxedavad 

Zalian didi survilsa, mizezTa 

gamo, uwmindesi ver mobrZanda. 

ityvian, rom amjerad janmrTeloba 

ar uwyobs xels, Tumca Tavad 

yvela koncertis dros didi survili 

hqonda da ambobda, aucileblad 

movalo. sxvaTa Soris, aqve 

minda giTxraT, rom sul ramdenime 

dRis winaT, erT-erT telearxze, 

naCvenebi iyo koncerti, 

sadac darbazSi patriarqic ijda, 

prezidentic, mTavrobis warmomadgenlebic 

da 2500 moqalaqe. aq, 

erTi SexedviT, TiTqos kargis 

meti araferia, rom ara erTi mTavari, 

vfiqrob, samarcxvino nawili 

bera ivaniSvili 

àra, naTluli arasdros mirekavs. me yovelTvis vurekav, magram piradad 

verasdros davukavSirdi, misi telefoni ar vici. samwuxarod, ise xdeba, rom, 

raRacnairad, ver vxvdebiT erTmaneTs. ra vici, iqneb, swored im xalxs, viszec 

gvqonda laparaki (pirferebs, viTom axloblebs) kargad aqvT namuSevari. sul 

mainteresebs, rogor micnobs, rogori warmodgena aqvs Cemze? me minda vuTxra, 

rom Zalian miyvars, yovel dilas da saRamos locvebs vkiTxulob naTlulTaTvis 

da is CemTan aris ukve ramdeni weliwadia, iciT? sadRac, Tvrameti, SeiZleba, 

metic. sisxlxorceuli gaxda CemTvis es saxelebi da Cveulebrivad vixsenieb 

locvebSi. ar dagimalavT, rodesac beras interviu movismine televiziiT, iseTi 

Rirsebebi gamoavlina, rom cremlebamde mivedi. Zalian sworad azrovnebs, kargi 

biWia. sxvaTa Soris, aqciebze Soridan SevxvdiT erTmaneTs da adamianebi, 

romlebic, `qarTuli ocnebis~, ase vTqvaT, erTgulebi iyvnen, rogorc ki bera an 

batoni biZina momesalmeboda, uceb Cndebodnen iqve axlos da Sinauruli toniT 

metyodnen xolme: `Tamriko, am adamianebs eCqarebaT, axla scenaze unda avidnen~. 

mecineboda. vxedavdi, keTilmosurneebi rogor `zrunavdnen~ maTze da zustad im 

urTierTobaze, romelic Cven Soris ar unda Semdgariyo~ 

veloSi Rirsebaze metad mliqvneloba 

fasobso. SeiZleba vi- 

fiqroT, rom morig arCevnebSi, 

maTi kvlav gamarjvebis Semdeg, es 

fraza ufro gamyarda? 

_ rom ar minelda, faqtia. mTeli 

ubedureba is aris, rom momavali 

Taobebi fuWdeba. rodesac 

Svili xedavs, rom mamamisi am mliqvnelobiT 

mogebulia, ra Tqma unda, 

igives gaakeTebs, radgan icis, 

Zalian bevri ram iolad miuva. 

_ gamosavali? 

_ swored eg aris Cemi kiTxvis 

niSani, romelsac pasuxs ver vcem. 

WianWvelebiviT momravldnen aseTi 

adamianebi absoluturad yvela 

sferoSi, rac ukve Zalian saSiSia. 

aqve minda aRvniSno, rom Taobebs 

vkargavT, rogorc msmenels. maSin, 

rodesac ar awvdi da ar Seayvareb 

imas, rac aris Seni, Zalian mniSvnelovani 

da marTla faseuli, is 

veraviTar SemTxvevaSi ver gansazRvravs 

da swor Seafasebas ver 

gaakeTebs. nurc movTxovT amas axalgazrdas, 

romelic am fesvebze 

ar aris gazrdili. rasac xSirad 

asmenineben da cxvirwin utrialeben, 

mas is hgonia kargi, faseuli. 

rodesac Sens fesvebze ar zrdi, 

gansjis unaric aRar aqvs. ignorireba 

gaukeTes qarTul kulturas, 

romelic namdvilad Zalian 

Rirebuli gvaqvs. ar davkonkretdebi, 

magram cota yofila, vinc 

saqarTveloSi arafers warmoadgenda, 

wasula ucxoeTSi, SeiZleba, 

iq WurWeli erecxa, magram trapidan 

Camovida, _ esaa mTavari. sul 

vambob, Cven „trapebis daavadeba” 

gvaqvs-meTqi. trapidan Camovida da 

varskvlavi ewoda imitom, rom ucxoeTSi 

iyo. nuravin miwyens, Tu vityvi, 

rom bevri iq Zalian iaffasian 

klubebSi, igive qorwilebSi 

Tqveni saxelobis varskvlavi gaix- 

sna. ras eliT 2017 wlisgan maSin, 

roca, kulturuli Tvalsazri- 

siT, axlac miTxariT da saerTod, 

bevrjer aRginiSnavT, rom saqar- 

TveloSi Zalian mZime mdgomare- 

obaa? maxsovs, qarTuli musikal- 

uri xelovnebis gadasarCenad 

Tqven erT-erTma pirvelma aimaRleT 

xma, uaric ki TqviT simR- 

eraze da ganacxadeT, rom qarTu- 

li estrada ar arsebobs... dRes 

ras fiqrobT? 

_ varskvlavs rac Seexeba, 2016 

welma damarwmuna, rom namdvilad 

aravin ityvis Cemze „e. w. varskvlavs”, 

iseTi didi siyvaruli modioda 

xalxisgan. varskvlavis dafiqsireba 

swored imis dasturia, rom 

xalxs uyvarxar... ras veli 2017 

wlisgan? pirvel rigSi, imas, rom 

Cvenma qveyanam da gansakuTrebiT 

maT, visac es xelewifeba, gaacnobieros, 

ramdenad mniSvnelovania 

qveynis kulturuli Tu socialuri 

ganviTareba. katastroful 

mdgomareobaSi varT. aviRoT, Tundac, 

gaxmovanebis sakiTxi. nuTu, 

SeuZlebelia, rom ramdenime adamiani 

gauSvan, Tundac, sazRvargareT, 

sadac Zalian didi gamocdileba 

arsebobs, Tu rogor unda gaaxmovano 

koncerti. amaSi Cadon garkveuli 

Tanxa. iciT, rogori mniSvnelovania, 

rodesac mReri da sa- 

Tanadod ar gixmovaneben, xmas ver 

awvden Sens msmenels, saTqmels ver 

eubnebi. ratom? imitom, rom iq ar 

zis, davuSvaT, profesionali xmis 

reJisori, an sxvebi, Tundac ganaTeba 

ar aris kargi, mxatvroba da 

ase Semdeg. raRac Tanxebi unda 

gaimeton, romelic axalgazrdebis 

swavlas moxmardeba. 

_ da es unda moxdes ucxoeT- 

Si? 

_ zerele damokidebulebam im 

saqmis mimarT, romelic miaCniaT, 

rom Seni kulturis iseTi mniSvnelovani 

nawili ar aris. aba, ra 

aris mniSvnelovani, ucxoeli mom- 

Rerlebis da musikosebis erTjeradad 

Camoyvana? vfiqrob, rom 

ara, aq aRzrdaa ufro mniSvnelovani. 

saerTod, rogorc erTi rigiTi 

moqalaqe, mec maqvs kiTxva: ratom 

xdeba es yvelaferi, amdeni 

uaryofiTi movlena? kidev kargi, 

rom gvaqvs amis ufleba. is, rom me 

Tavisuflad SemiZlia dRes amaze 

vilaparako da Tqven presaSi dabe- 

WdoT, esec Zalian bevrs niSnavs. 

`nacionalebis” xelisuflebis 

dros marTla Zalian didi saSiSroeba 

iyo. megobrebis wreSic ki, 

rodesac politikaze saubrobdnen, 

telefonis aparats mTlianad 

Slidnen. dRes es ar xdeba. laparakoben, 

SeiZleba usmenen kidec, 

magram, yovel SemTxvevaSi, amis 

gulisTvis, sadRac, kojris tyeSi 

ar waiyvanen da ar moklaven... 

_ darekvaze gamaxsenda... naTlulma 

(qalbatoni Tamrikos naT- 

luli bera ivaniSvili gaxlavT) 

Tu dagirekaT da mogilocaT 

naTlisReba? 

_ ara, naTluli arasdros mirekavs. 

me yovelTvis vurekav, magram 

piradad verasdros davukavSirdi, 

misi telefoni ar vici. samwuxarod, 

ise xdeba, rom, raRacnairad, 

ver vxvdebiT erTmaneTs. ra vici, 

iqneb, swored im xalxs, viszec 

gvqonda laparaki (pirferebs, viTom 

axloblebs) kargad aqvT namuSevari. 

sul mainteresebs, rogor 

micnobs, rogori warmodgena aqvs 

Cemze? me minda vuTxra, rom Zalian 

miyvars, yovel dilas da saRamos 

locvebs vkiTxulob naTlul- 

TaTvis da is CemTan aris ukve ram- 

Tu iyoo. mere ukve vxumrobdi, _ 

cocxze arian Semomsxdrebi, rogorc 

„babaiagebi” da uceb mofrindebian, 

raRac zedmeti rom ar vu- 

TxraT erTmaneTs-meTqi”. aseTi 

adamianebi dRes Zalian boboqroben. 

_ cudia, Tu am adamianebs 

ujereben da naTliasa da naT- 

luls Soris urTierToba ar aris. 

_ ara mgonia, rom mTlad ase 

ujerebdnen, Tumca boloc makvirvebs... 

saerTod, rodesac „qarTuli 

ocneba” xelisuflebaSi movida 

da xalxi ukmayofilo iyo raRac 

movlenebTan Tu gadawyvetilebebTan 

dakavSirebiT, me sul vambobdi, 

rom biZina ivaniSvilis 

yuramde bevri ram ar midis, Zalian 

did sainformacio vakuumSia es 

adamiani, magram... 

_ dRes ra gindaT, rom mis 

yuramde mivides? 

_ ra vici... mis yuramde dResac 

bevri ram aris misatani. yvelaze 

mniSvnelovani, albaT, isaa, rom 

garemocva gafiltros, ase ukeTesi 

iqneba... imedia, dafiqrdebian, 

Tu vin aris maTTvis namdvili moyvare 

da keTilismsurveli. vfiqrob, 

yvelaferi gamosworebadia, 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, magis imedi 

maqvs _ me is adamiani var, romelic 

avadmyofurad aris Seyvarebuli 

Tavis qveyanaze. ramdenjerme 

mqonda SemoTavazeba da SemeZlo, 

saqarTvelodan wavsuliyavi. saboloo 

jamSi, an davrCebodi mogebuli, 

an _ ara, magram faqtia, ver 

wavedi. ori kvirac ki miWirs saqar- 

Tvelos datoveba da aRar minda, 

daTrgunuli saxeebi davinaxo, ar 

minda, viRac quCaSi maCerebdes da 

meubnebodes: „aa, Sen is adamiani 

xar, aqciaze rom ideqi, gviTxariT, 

rogor gamoswordeba mdgomareo- 

_ tyuili da uzneoba! am koncert- 

Tan mimarTebiTac da, zogadadac, 

minda, yvelas mivmarTo, vinc am 

RonisZiebebs awyobs _ moeSvan spekulaciuri 

RonisZiebebis Catarebas, 

rodesac erTi konkretuli, 

didi adamianis saxels iyeneben da 

amis gamo, rogorc ityvian, „fexze 

dgas mTeli qveyana”. es koncertic 

am saxis iyo, Tumca me ufro sxva 

movlenam SemaSfoTa da aRmaSfo- 

Ta _ es swored im tyuilisa da uzneobis 

dasturi iyo, razec zemoT 

gesaubreT da razec didi xania, 

gangaSs vtex _ ori sagundo simReris 

garda arc erTi simRera 

cocxlad ar Sesrulebula! me is 

ufro madardebs, xvdebodnen ki 

amas is adamianebi, romlebic didi 

pativiT iyvnen miwveuli, rom maT 

atyuebdnen? imizezeben, rom 

xarisxis gamo akeTeben amas. mTeli 

pasuxismgeblobiT geubnebiT, me 

amas arasodes vakadreb Cems msmenels. 

isic minda giTxraT, ar gegonoT, 

amas xalxi ver xvdebodes. 

xalxma Seuracxyofilad ar unda 

igrZnos Tavi... es erTi patara fragmentia 

Cveni kulturuli yofisa, 

romelic aranairad ar minda did 

masStabebSi da Cvens yoveldRiur 

yofaSi gadaizardos. 

sxva ra giTxraT?.. ubralod, 

Zalian ucnauria, rom swored Cemi 

koncertis dros aris xolme problemebi 

sapatriarqos mxridan, arada, 

rodesac sapatriarqodan damirekaven, 

sadac ar unda viyo, yovelTvis 

maT gverdiT var, pirvel 

rigSi, uwmindesis gverdiT, romelic 

Zalian did siyvaruls mimJRavnebs 

mec da mariamsac. amitom, ra 

Tqma unda, kiTxva gamiCnda, _ ratom, 

maincdamainc, Cems koncertze 

xdeba ase?.. 


35


`sparsuli xaliCa~ 

warmoidgineT qalbatoni, ro- 

nino tabaRua 

melic xatavs, wers, qargavs, ker- 

avs da marto cxovrobs katasTan 

erTad. is im sparsul xaliCas hgavs, romelic sardafSi 

TavisTvis cxovrobs ise, rom misi silamaziT mxolod saku- 

Tari Tavi unda daatkbos. 

ema qecbaia 80 wlis afxazi 

mxatvari da filologia, romelic 

amayobs Tavisi winaprebiT, 

Tavis droze, ruseTis imperatoris 

winaSe rom gamodiodnen 

sityviT. amis gamo erTxel 

nikoloz pirvelis ordeniT, 

meored ki 100 ha miwiT daajildoves. 

ema mSoblebis mesame Svili 

iyo, romelic dedis gardacvalebis 

mere borjomSi wauyvania 

biZas (deidis qmars), radgan 

sakuTari Svili ar hyavda. 1942 

wels mamobili omSi daRupula 

da ema namdvil mamasTan da da- 

ZmasTan afxazeTSi dabrunebula. 

jer kidev skolaSi wasvlamde 

damarTia poliomieliti, 

ris gamoc siaruli dRemde 

uWirs. ixsenebs, rom rodesac 

mama pirvelad movida mis sanaxavad 

da fexebs usinjavda, 

gahkvirvebia, _ vin aris es ucxo, 

rogor mibedavs amaso? da 

gaqceula. mere ufrosi da unaxavs, 

romelsac uTqvams, me Seni 

da varo da emasac daujerebia 

misi. amis mere axsovs, rogor 

isxdnen mama da Svilebi 

cxenze da midiodnen pirvel 

galSi: „mamas win vejeqi da momeCvena, 

TiTqos zRaparSi viyavi, 

ekliT daburdul xeebSi 

rom gavdiodiT”. 

ema ixsenebs: 

_ Cemi Zma rom Semovida da 

daminaxa, maSin qarTulad vlaparakobdi 

da megruli ar vicodi, 

magram is winadadeba 

dRemde maxsovs, roca Cemze 

ikiTxa: _ mi re Te mundburdRam 

qorTu? _ (uxeSad naTqvami, 

_ vin aris es qarTveli?) 

es man siyvaruliT ar Tqva da 

gulSi CamrCa, Tumca Semdeg 

skolaSi gadavediT sacxovreblad 

da Cemma Zmam mxrebze Semosmuli 

Semomatara mTeli 

sofeli. aq, am skolis ezoSi, 

36 

ori Senoba idga, erTi ufro 

didi, sadac bavSvebi swavlobdnen 

da meore _ Cven sadac 

vcxovrobdiT. 

yvela rom gaikrifeboda 

saxlidan, me marto vrCebodi 

da iq vTamaSobdi xan yvavilebTan, 

WianWvelebTan, aTasnair 

raRacas vigonebdi da meCveneboda, 

rom ezo didi iyo, me ki _ 

patara. meCveneboda, rom devi 

modis da me Tvalebs vxuWav, 

gavrbivar, Cems fexs movafar- 

Txuneb, rom gaviqce, oTaxSi 

Sevrbivar, urduliT vketav 

kars da mere fanjridan unda 

Sevxedo, wavida Tu ara devi _ 

rogor cocxlad vgrZnobdi, 

rom safrTxe modioda. 

Semdeg ukve me-6 klasSi gadmovdivar 

qalaq galSi da babuasTan 

vizrdebi. aq Cemi gamzrdeli 

aris deida, romelic 

qargavda. xelovnebis siyvaruli 

misgan viswavle. 

_ skolis damTavrebis Semdeg 

ras akeTebT? ratom gagi- 

tacaT mxatvrobam, an filo- 

logiam? 

_ skola davamTavre, kargad 

vswavlobdi, yvela gamocda 

Cavabare. mindoda, didi mxatvari 

gamovsuliyavi, didi mwerali 

da ara, ubralod, mxatvari, 

an mwerali. megona, 3 wels 

vimuSavebdi da mere CemTvis 

vicxovrebdi, magram cxovreba 

egre ar gamodga. 

TbilisSi wamovedi da samxatvro 

akademiaSi Cavabare, aq 

Zalian Zlier mxatvarTan, jibson 

xundaZesTan vmecadineobdi 

_ is SesaniSnavia! 

amave dros soxumSi dauswreblad 

davamTavre filologiis 

fakulteti. maswavleblobam 

Zalian gamitaca, momTxovni 

viyavi, ai, iseTi, suliTa da 

guliT rom aZlev yvelafers 

moswavles da fiqrob, rom Sens 

qveyanas iseTi adamianebi sWirdeba. 

mkacri viyavi da aravis 

martivad ar vuwerdi niSans, 

mxolod imitom, rom direqtoris, 

maswavleblis, an Se- 

Zlebuli ojaxis Svili iyo. 

_ axla ras akeTebT yovel- 

dRe? 

_ saxlSi var da vcdilob, 

Cemi „sparsuli xaliCa” ar davarRvio. 

ki vwer raRacebs, magram 

mxolod masze unda vfiqrobde, 

arada, xatva da qargva, 

nivTebis gadakeTebac Zalian 

miyvars. qals vaidealeb da 

me TviTon bunebiT ar var mor- 

Cili. erTxel vTqvi, rom gavTxoviliyavi 

da aseTi fexebiTac 

Sevyvarebodi vinmes, Seuracxyofa 

rom moeyenebina, me mas- 

Tan erTi wuTiTac ar gavCerdebodi. 

is, rac CemTvis Seuracxmyofelia, 

autanelicaa, 

radgan ar var morCili! 

ramdenime dRis win saxlidan 

gavedi, raRac nivTebi mqonda 

sayideli da, rogorc iqna, 

ise movaxerxe, rom Cemi pensiidan 

Tanxa gadamedo. „saxlidan 

gasvla” _ es im dRis mo- 

Txroba iyo: rogor vuyurebdi 

adamianebs, an iq rom mivedi sayidlad, 

megona, rom yvelaferi 

Cem irgvliv datrialda, 

taqsis mZRolma rom momiyvana 

saxlSi, viRac moxuci raRacas 

rom yveboda Cem gverdiT, qali 

da kaci, romlebic mawanwalebad 

momeCvena _ es yvelaferi 

Zalian lamazi raRac iyo. im 

dRes ar meZina da megona, rom 

lamaz moTxrobas davwerdi, 

magram ar avdeqi, damezara. me 

80 wlis var da aseTi sixarulis 

dReebi bevri ar mqonia. 

yovel diliT roca vdgebi, 

vambob: madloba, RmerTo, rom 

maCuqe dRevandeli dRe. 

saerTod, roca vxatav, wera 

mindeba da roca vwer, xatva 

mindeba da ase ivseba Cemi cxovreba. 

_ yvelaze didi sirTule ra 

SegxvedriaT? 

_ is, rom mgonia, Cemi ar esmiT. 

yovelTvis raRacas mimtkicebdnen, 

magram ar vuyvardiT. 

vgrZnobdi, rom ar vuyvardiT, 

radgan simarTles 

veubnebodi. 

_ gaqvT gadawyvetileba, 

romelic ginaniaT? 

_ vnanob, mamas rom ar davujere 

da fexze operacia gavikeTe, 

arada, rom damejerebina, 

axla mxolod specialuri 

maRalyeliani fexsacmlis 

tareba momiwevda. operaciis 

mere ki yvela nawili calke mimoZravebs 

da yavarjnebis 

gareSe veRar davdivar. 

_ vin aris TqvenTvis ide- 

aluri mxatvari, romeli feri 

giyvarT? 

_ van gogi da yviTeli, ra 

Tqma unda. iciT, gamofenaze 

van gogis wigni viyide, kargi 

wigni, Tumca Zviri ki Rirda, 

magram Cemma disSvilma, romelic 

israelSia, fuli gamomigzavna, 

rom es wignic da saRebavebic 

meyida. Zalian mZimea 

es wigni, 1 kiloze meti mainc 

aris, Semdeg viyide guaSis 

saRebavebi (iafi romaa, imitom 

vyidulob magas, Torem ise 

zeTSi vxatav). rogor waiRebo? 

_ gamyidvelma mkiTxa (RmerTi 

iseT raRacebs mCuqnis, gaocebuli 

var xolme da mikvirs, ratom 

mCuqnis, amitom vifiqre, 

rame gamoCndeba, ramenairad 

waviReb-meTqi). _ raRaciT waviReb, 

_ vuTaxari, gamosavali 

yovelTvis aris. me migataninebT 

manqanamdeo, _ kargi-meTqi. 

vnaxe, rom viRacis manqanaSi 

alagebda am nivTebs, _ me wagiyvanTo, 

_ miTxra, Turme, Tavisi 

manqaniT mivyavdi. _ xom iyo es 

saCuqari? mere vuTxari, _ afxazi 

var da iq rom Caval, vetyvi, 

Tqven rogor wamaRebineT es 

nivTebi, qarTvelebs afxazebi 

uyvarT da imitom mces pativi, 

rom me afxazi var, amas gadavcem-meTqi. 

_ afxazeTSi dadixarT 

xolme? 

_ bolos soxumSi viyvi da 

iseTi gaCanagebulia, vtirodi, 

rom vuyurebdi. davdivar 

xolme, pasportic momces. Cemma 

naTliam gamikeTa, romelic 

specialurad SevarCie, radgan 

Raribi ojaxis qali iyo, Cemi 

moswavlis deda. sxva moswavlis 

SeZlebulma dedam miTxra, 

radgan Cems Svils ufasod 

amecadineb, me mognaTlav da 

1700 maneTian briliantis sayures 

giyidio. pirvelad rac 

gavifiqre, iyo: RmerTo! Rmer- 

TiT rogor vivaWreb?! araferi 

vuTxari, wavedi da yvelaze 

Raribi moswavlis deda mov- 

Zebne, avuxseni, rogor miTxra 

im mdidarma qalbatonma da 

vTxove, _ Sen momnaTle-meTqi. 

mas Semdeg Cemi naTliaa. man gamikeTa 

mere pasportic. 

_ aq rogor cxovrobT? rame 

daxmareba geZlevaT? 

_ ara, pensia maqvs mxolod 

da Zalian ekonomiurad vcxovrob 

(axla Tqven CagirTeT gamaTbobeli, 

Torem miCveuli var 

siciveSi yofnas, magram mec 

xom mekuTvnis erTi dRe, rom 

gavTbe?) da miCveuli var, civi 

wyliT vizel xolme tans, rom 

imuniteti mqondes kargi. 

_ van gogi ratom giyvarT? 

_ me vmecadineobdi mxatvarTan, 

jibson xundaZesTan, 

gasul wels misi 9 namuSevari 

„ermitaJma” SeiZina, imdenad 

36 N3 (180) 31.01-6.02.2017 w.


mebrZoli suliT 

Zlieri mxatvaria. mas uyvarda 

van gogi da sul miyveboda masze. 

amitom Semiyvarda. leningradSi 

galereaSi van gogis 

oTaxSi mTel dRes vatarebdi, 

xolo „ermitaJSi” gogenis oTaxSi 

rom Sevedi pirvelad, ubralod, 

mominda, dameCoqa da 

meloca, van gogTan ki mTel 

dRes vatarebdi. 

_ yvelaze metad risi keTe- 

ba giyvarT? 

_ Tqven iciT, rom me vkerav, 

vqargav, gadavakeTeb xolme 

raRacebs, megobrebs vagiJeb, 

iseT raRacebs vkerav xolme, 

nemsze maqvs garTuleba, nivTebis, 

tansacmlebis gadakeTeba 

miyvars xatvasTan da werasTan 

erTad. 

_ ra gaRizianebT yvelaze 

metad? 

_ adamianebi maRizianeben. 

vTqvaT, eklesiaSi davdivar. 

meubnebian, ra kargia, rom dadixar, 

radgan mas vecodebi da 

gamoxatavs, _ es maRizianebs, 

arada, me xom ase davdivar mTeli 

Cemi cxovrebis manZilze? 

gamiWirda? _ meore joxi aviRe 

da erTxel, roca kidev ase 

miTxres, vuTxari, aq imitom 

davdivar, rom ase minda da ara 

imitom, rom vTxovo, _ RmerTo, 

raime momeci-meTqi. 

_ visTvis an risTvis ar 

genanebaT raime? 

_ swori azrovnebis adamianisTvis. 

ar vasxvaveb, Tundac 

sisxlis naTesavebi ar viyoT. 

_ ramis Secvla rom Sege- 

ZloT, ras SecvlidiT? 

_ arafers Sevcvlidi, 

CemTvis dedamiwaze aris bedniereba, 

oRond Cemi „sparsuli 

xaliCa” ar dairRves da ase minda 

iyos. 

_ vin aris yvelaze Zvirfa- 

si TqvenTvis? 

_ Cemi maswavlebeli, jibson 

xundaZe. vici, rogor uxaria, 

rom mivide, magram mainc mgonia, 

rom wuxdeba da ar mivdivar. 

yvelaze metad vinc davafase, 

isaa da dRemde Cemi maswavlebelia, 

me imis win yovelTvis 

Tavdaxrili var da 

sul velodebi, rom kidev ra- 

Racas metyvis. 

_ raze fiqrobT yvelaze 

xSirad? 

_ Cems TavTan vsaubrob, rac 

sxvasTan unda ilaparako xolme 

da ise momwons es saubari, 

raimeze vkicxav xolme Cems 

Tavs. 

_ risi an visi imedi gaqvT? 

_ Cemi mamukasi, romelic israelSia, 

dedasaviT sayvareli 

xaro, meubneba, Cven saaTobiT 

vsaubrobT. is Cemi xvalindeli 

dRec aris, sixarulic Tavis 

daviTTan (SvilTan) erTad. 

_ Tqvens naxatebs ar yidiT? 

_ ara. erTi periodi erTi 

berZeni gvikeTda da fuls gva- 

Zlevda, magram roca SeniT 

xatav, erTobi, TamaSob... 

_ megobrebi bevri gyavT? 

_ lesia aris Cemi megobari, 

jgufeli, romelic Zalian amomidga 

mxarSi, berZeni rom 

Camodioda, aman mimiyvana, rom 

cota fuli meSova, remonti 

magan gamakeTebina im TanxiT. 

_ mezobeli ar Semodis 

xolme? 

_ aRar. Cem gverdiT cxov- 

robs deda-Svili, romelTac 

gasaRebs da katas vutoveb, Tu 

soxumSi mivdivar, dedas ar 

undoda, rom katisTvis miexeda, 

arada, Tu rame iyo, am gogonas 

vCuqnidi sul. meore mezobeli 

ki memduris. mizezi 

misi araeTikuri qceva iyo, fuli 

rom vasesxe, is momibrunda 

da miTxara, Cveni mezobloba 

damTavrdao, aranairi kavSiri 

ar gvaqvs, magram damdureba, 

ubralod, ar aris kargi. 

_ cxovrebis azri ra aris? 

_ is unda iyo, vinc xar. adamianoba 

pasuxismgeblobaa. 

_ vinmes hgavxarT? 

_ ara, ici, rogor vRiziandebi, 

vinmes rom madareben?! 

magram telefoni damidges galSi 

erTxel, raRac samxedro 

paroli iyo, mgoni da viRac 

rekavda _ me var hera, _ meubneboda, 

_ me aTena palada var _ 

vpasuxobdi. mere viRac mamakaci 

werda novelas da me misi 

aTena viyavi. sibrZnis qalRmerTi, 

Wkviani. 

_ xelovneba ra aris Tqve- 

nTvis? 

_ amaze pasuxis gacema Zneliao, 

_ miTxra jibsonma, roca 

am kiTxviT mivmarTe, magram es 

aris Cveni samyaro, iluzoruli, 

romelsac Cven Cvens miRma 

vqmniT. 

_ Tavisufali xarT? 

_ ki, radgan es Cemi udidesi 

monapovaria, amitomac veravisTan 

vZleb. 

_ ra aris Tavisufleba? 

_ is, rom icxovro ise, 

risTvisac gaCndi da risi Sesa- 

Zleblobac gaqvs. 

_ Tqveni azriT, misia 

gaqvT? 

_ zogjer mgonia, rom maqvs, 

yvelas aqvs. bevri moswavlis- 

Tvis cxovreba Semicvlia da 

daminaxvebia, rom mTavari adamianobaa 

da ara fuli. misia 

yvelas aqvs, ai, Cems katasac. 

mogiyvebiT: galSi rom vcxovrobdi, 

katis yolis dro ar 

mqonda, sul vmuSaobdi. megobris 

rCeviT manqana gavyide, 

rom binis yidva momeswro, sanam 

iafi iyo. naTesavs vTxove 

fuli. vaWroba Cems bunebaSi ar 

zis, amitom vuTxari, _ mindobilobiT 

wadi zugdidSi, es 

manqana gayide da fuli momitane-meTqi. 

wavida, gayida, Camovida 

da faqtis winaSe damayena, 

_ gavyide manqana da viyide 

Txilio, mosavali roca mova, 

Txils Cagabarebo. _ kargi-me- 

Tqi. im zafxuls mosavali ar 

iyo. maT saxlSi vcxovrobdi. am 

xnis manZilze es kata vnaxe da 

ise momefera, Cems naTesavs 

vuTxari _ is kata minda-meTqi. 

iman katis patrons uTxara da 

momiyvana. 

davarqvi kaWu. katu megrulad 

hqvia katas da Wu davamate. 

miviyvane iq, sadac Cemi 

fuli emarTaT da erTad vcxovrobdiT. 

es kata yvelgan da 

yvelafers svrida. naTesavs 

colma uTxra, iSove, sadac 

ginda is fuli da ema katianad 

gauSvi aqedano. kata damexmara, 

rom fuli damebrunebina, _ 

masac hqonia misia. cocxali 

arsebaa, ki gamifuWa iataki, magram 

roca giyvars, xom uTmen?! 

_ ra iqneba Tqveni gzavnili 

sazogadoebisTvis? 

_ erTmaneTi uyvardeT, es 

litoni sityva da ganmeoreba 

rom ar aRmoCndes, ubralod, 

vityvi _ me aqamde ver movidodi, 

siyvaruli rom ar yofiliyo. 

vTqvaT, igive, wigni da sa- 

Rebavebi rom momatanina, iman 

xom siTbo gamoiCina. zogjer 

qaria, quCaze rom ver gadavdivar, 

iseTi siyvaruliT mexmarebian 

da es aris ulamazesi 

grZnoba. im dros iseTi gaxarebuli 

var da im dros Cemi tvini 

da guli yvavis. erTxel, 

studentobis dros, saSineli 

qari iyo da iqve mdgomma darajma 

palto gaSala, ise wamiZRva, 

amitomac vambob, _ siyvaruli 

aris siTbo da amis msgavsi 

araferia. 

_ Tqven risi gjeraT? 

_ sityvis, vijereb yvelafers, 

es RmerTis saocari saCuqaria 

adamianisTvis da arasworad 

ar unda gamoviyenoT. 

_ Tqveni misiisgan Sesas- 

rulebeli ra dagrCaT? 

_ Cemi 80 wlis gadasaxedidan 

vfiqrob, rom Cemi misia aris 

Cemi gadarCena, piradad Cemi. 

mixarodes is, rasac vakeTeb da 

vuyureb. 

_ vin aris ema qecbaia? 

_ is, romelic cxovrebam 

afxazeTidan borjomSi, iqidan 

ukan, mere TbilisSi gadmomagdo, 

Tumca dRemde var adamiani, 

romelic ar gatyda da aris 

iseTi, rogoric aris. 

ema aris gmiri, romelmac 

bevris cxovreba Secvala, romlisTvisac 

mTavari azrovnebis 

xarisxi da pasuxismgeblobaa. 

is ar aris morCili da ibrZvis 

bolomde, misi saboloo misia 

sakuTari Tavis gadarCenaa. is 

axlac marto kiTxulobs am 

statias ise, rom misi „sparsuli 

xaliCa” daurRvevelia. cota 

xanSi Tavis saRebavebs, kalams, 

an nemss aiRebs, sayvarel 

saqmes Seudgeba da xelovnebis 

kidev erTi nimuSic mzad iqneba. 


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saqarTvelos erovnulma safexburTo 

nakrebma ianvarSi gama- 

rTuli ori amxanaguri matCidan 

erTi fred daasrula, meoreSi ki 

damarcxda. realurad, metis mol- 

odinic ar gvqonda, radgan uzb- 

ekeTsa da iordaniasTan gamarT- 

ul sparing-matCebSi Cveni erov- 

nuli gundis Rirseba, umetesad, 

qarTul klubebSi moTamaSe fex- 

burTelebma daicves. 

samwuxarod, matCebis Sesaxeb konkretulad 

bevrs verafers getyviT, 

radgan pirveli Sexvedra mxolod 

uzbekuri internetgverdebis 

meSveobiT gadaicemoda, meore 

matCis videogamosaxuleba ki saqar- 

TveloSi TvaliT aravis unaxavs. 

zogadad ki, Tundac eqsperimentuli 

SemadgenlobiT Catarebuli 

amxanaguri Sexvedrebi nakrebisa da 

misi samwvrTnelo StabisTvis samomavlo 

bataliebis win sasargeblo 

unda gamodges. rogorc Cveni erovnuli 

gundis slovaki Tavkaci vladimir 

vaisi ambobs, dubaiSi gamoZaxebuli 

axalwveulebidan Semdeg 

sanakrebo Sekrebaze ors ixmobs. 

`Cven dubaiSi imisTvis CamovediT, 

rom fexburTelebs, romlebsac 

nakrebSi TamaSis naklebi gamocdileba 

aqvT, Tavis warmoCenis sa- 

Sualeba hqonodaT, gaxsniliyvnen 

da maTi TamaSis xarisxi eCvenebinaT. 

biWebis TamaSiT kmayofili 

var, maT sakuTari valdebulebebi 

Seasrules. ra Tqma unda, xarisxi 

sxva sakiTxia, Tumca ver vityvi, 

rom romelime maTgani moedanze 

uqmad iyo. piriqiT, yvela cdilobda, 

kargad varjiSobdnen da rac 

mTavaria, gvainteresebda, gaixsneboda 

Tu ara romelime erovnuli 

nakrebisTvis. am Sekrebaze orma 

axalma moTamaSem kargad warmoaCina 

Tavi, amitom serbeTTan SexvedrisTvis 

Sekrebaze isini aucileblad 

iqnebian. bunebrivia, wagebiT 

kmayofili mwvrTneli ar arsebobs, 

magram SekrebiT kmayofili 

var, radgan SesaZlebloba mogveca, 

rom erTi kvira erTad gvemuSava~. 

momdevno matCs saqarTvelos 

erovnuli nakrebi TbilisSi gamarTavs. 

24 marts msoflio Cempionatis 

sakvalifikacio etapis Sexvedras 

Cveni gundi serbeTis 

winaaRmdeg Caatarebs, 28 marts ki 

fifas kalendriT gaTvaliswinebul 

amxanagur matCSi saqarTvelos 

nakrebis metoqe latvia iqneba. 


fre da marcxi aziur testebSi 

SegaxsenebT: msoflio Cempionatis 

sakvalifikacio etapze saqar- 

Tvelos nakrebma oTxi matCi Caatara, 

saidanac ori fred iTamaSa, 

orSi ki damarcxda. eqvsgundian 

jgufSi sadReisod mexuTe poziciaze 

vimyofebiT. 

saqarTvelo- 

uzbekeTi 2:2 

23 ianvari. dubai. 

saqarTvelo: kvasxvaZe, u. lob- 

JaniZe, xoWolava, rexviaSvili, SergelaSvili 

(tabiZe 89), Sonia (mamasaxlisi 

83), kiteiSvili (papunaSvili 

89), s. lobJaniZe (xaraiSvili 

82), arabuli (parunaSvili 57), tu- 

RuSi (dvaliSvili 70), zivzivaZe 

mwvrTneli: vladimir vaisi 

uzbekeTi: lobanovi, ahmedovi, 

andreevi, bikmaievi (maSaripovi 57), 

iskandarovi (aSurmatovi 90), xaSimovi, 

sergeevi, Samuradovi, Sukurovi 

(kutibaevi 80), soxibovi, tuxaxujaevi 

mwvrTneli: samvel babaiani 

golebi: 0:1 Samuradovi (45), 1:1 

Sonia (69), 2:1 s. lobJaniZe (77), 2:2 

Samuradovi (78) 

gafrTxileba: u. lobJaniZe, 

xaraiSvili _ Sukurovi 

gaZeveba: ahmedovi (89) 

iordania- 

saqarTvelo 1:0 

25 ianvari. dubai. 

iordania: Safi, ravaSde, xatabi, 

zavahre, dmere, abuamara, abdulrahamani, 

aiedi (abudebi 89), 

altamari (tali 69), faisali (albavabi 

79), aldarduri (samiri 70) 

mwvrTneli: abdula almesferi 

saqarTvelo: migineiSvili, u. 

lobJaniZe (Tornike grigalaSvili 

63), tabiZe, xoWolava, s. lobJaniZe 

(qimaZe 79), dvaliSvili, zivzivaZe 

(arabuli 46), kiteiSvili, tuRuSi 

(mamasaxlisi 82), SergelaSvili 

(ganugrava 88), Sonia (xaraiSvili 

85) 

mwvrTneli: vladimir vaisi 

goli: 1:0 aldarduri (45) 

gafrTxileba: aldmere, zavahre 

- xoWolava, Sonia, dvaliSvili 

futsali - saqarTvelos 

nakrebi Semdeg etapzea 

saqarTvelos futsalis erovnulma nakrebma 

evropis Cempionatis SesarCevi turniris meore 

sakvalifikacio etapis sagzuri moipova. Cvenma 

gundma oTxgundian jgufSi gaimarjva, romlis mat- 

Cebsac Tbilisis axalma sportis sasaxlem umaspin- 

Zla. 

saqarTvelos nakrebis metoqeebi Sotlandia, 

israeli da Sveicaria iyvnen. avTandil asaTianis 

mier gawvrTnilma gundma pirvel turSi Sotlan- 

dia 11:0 gaanadgura, mere aseve solidurad, 3:0 

sZlia israels da saqme gadamwyvet dapirispire- 

bamde midga. uxvgolian SexvedraSi saqarTvelos 

nakrebi dominirebda da sabolood, damsaxurebu- 

lad, 6:3 gaimarjva. aRsaniSnavia, rom sam matCSi ori 

goli gaitana Cveni nakrebis kapitanma, mekare zviad 

kupataZem, romelsac aT weliwadze meti wamyvan 

rusul klubebSi gautarebia da evropis erT- 

erT saukeTeso karis darajad miiCneva. 

sakvalifikacio etapis ZiriTadi raundis mat- 

Cebi 3-12 aprils gaimarTeba, Cvens jgufs minski 

umaspinZlebs, metoqeebi ki belarusis, italiisa da 

holandiis nakrebebi iqnebian. aRniSnuli raun- 

didan evropis Cempionatze TamaSis uflebas 7 

pirveladgilosani pirdapir moipovebs, 7 meo- 

readgilosani da 1 saukeTeso mesameadgilosani ki 

plei ofSi CaerTvebian da am gziT gaarkveven 

uZlieresis vinaobas. plei ofis matCebi 2017 wlis 

seqtemberSi gaimarTeba. 

Tbilisur sakvalifikacio etapze saqarTvelos 

nakrebis Semadgenloba aseTi iyo: 

mekareebi: zviad kupataZe, jaba jamburia; 

moednis moTamaSeebi: SoTa WanuyvaZe, giorgi 

niSnianiZe, roninio da silva, arCil sebiskveraZe, 

zurab lukava, irakli Todua, SoTa Tofuria, 

levan kobaiZe, kaxa maisaia, nikoloz kurtaniZe, 

giorgi tikuriSvili, daviT boboxiZe. 

axalgazrdebis 

metoqeebi cnobilia 

martidan saqarTvelos axalgazrduli nakrebi evropis Cempionatis 

SesarCev turnirs daiwyebs. 26 ianvars gamarTulma wilisyram 

gia geguCaZis gundis metoqeebi gamoavlina. saqarTvelos nakreb- 

is Tanajgufelebi dania, poloneTi, fineTi, litva da farerebi 

arian. erTi SexedviT, jgufi CvenTvis xelsayrelia, magram winaswar 

yovelTvis Znelia imis Tqma, romel qveyanas rogori gundi eyoleba 

axalgazrdul asakSi. mTlianobaSi ki, raRa Tqma unda, kargi ambavia, 

rom metoqed romelime wamyvani evropuli safexburTo qveynis 21- 

wlamdelTa nakrebi ar gvergo. 

jgufis gamarjvebulebi pirdapir gainaRdeben evropis Cempionatis 

finaluri etapis sagzurs, xolo ori saukeTeso meoreadg- 

ilosani plei ofSi damatebiT or sagzurs gaiTamaSebs. 

gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma 

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qarTuli ragbi - 2016 wlis laureatebi 

28 ianvars saqarTvelos ragbis 

kavSirma 2016 wlis Semajamebeli 

saRamo gamarTa da sezonis sauke- 

Tesoebi daajildova. Tavdapirvelad, 

srk-is prezidentma goCa svaniZem 

gasuli weli mimoixila, ris 

Semdegac uSualod dajildoebis 

ceremoniali gaimarTa. 

jer gasuli sezonis dublior- 

Ta Cempions, rusTavis `xarebs~ 

uxmes, Semdeg amave sezonis pirveli 

ligis gamarjvebuls, amJamad ki 

didi 10-is binadars, quTaisis `bagrats~ 

gadaeca prizi specialur 

nominaciaSi _ `samoyvarulo ligis 

mxardaWerisa da ganviTarebisTvis~ 

ki ragbis enTuziastsa da samoyvarulo 

klub `xalibebis~ damfu- 

Znebel vaxtang mSvidobaZes daufasda 

garja. 

jildoebi, aseve, miiRes: 2016 

wlis saqarTvelos Cempionma 7-kacaSi 

quTaisis àiam~, didi 10-is 

brinjaos priziorma goris `jiqma~, 

vercxlis priziorma Tbilisis 

`lokomotivma~ da saqarTvelos 

Cempionma `lelo-sarasensma~, romelmac 

tituli zedized meoTxed, 

sul ki meeqvsed moipova. 

Sekrebilebma iubileebi miuloces 

veteran moragbeebs, romelTac 

80, 70, 60 da 50 weli SeusruldaT, 

aseve wuTieri dumiliT pativi 

miages 2016 wels gardacvlilebs. 

tradiciulad, simboluri 

kvarTebi gadaeca didi 10-is Sar- 

Sandeli sezonis 15-euls: 

Serkineba: 1. daviT gurgenaZe 

(jiqi), 2. giorgi WyoiZe (lelo-sarasensi), 

3. nika pataraia (lelosarasensi; 

baTumi), 4. nodar WeiSvili 

(lelo-sarasensi), 5. sandro 

qoiava (lelo-sarasensi), 6. mixeil 

gaCeCilaZe (yoCebi; enisei), 7. giorgi 

TxilaiSvili (baTumi), 8. guram 

Sengelia (jiqi) da elguja surgulaZe 

(lelo-sarasensi); 

xazi: 9. vasil lobJaniZe (armazi, 

brivi), 10. laSa xmalaZe (lelo-sarasensi), 

11. ramaz xaraziSvili (jiqi), 

12. zurab ZnelaZe (lokomotivi, 

aia), 13. sandro Todua (lelo-sarasensi), 

14. mirian modebaZe (aia), 

15. beqa wiklauri (lokomotivi). 

gasuli sezonis didi 10-is saukeTeso 

moragbe laSa xmalaZe gaxda, 

saukeTeso mequle _ Temur soxaZe 

(yoCebi, 190 qula _ amJamad ba- 

Tumi); saukeTeso melelove _ ramaz 

xaraziSvili (jiqi, 8 lelo). 

saukeTeso mwvrTnelad amjeradac 

aRiares qveynis Cempionis, `lelo-sarasensis~ 

Tavkaci levan maisaSvili, 

xolo msajad _ nika amaSukeli. 

saqarTvelos saukeTeso qali 

moragbe salome saRaraZe gaxda. 

sanakrebo nominaciebSi sauke- 

Tesoebad dasaxeldnen: 

2016 wlis saukeTeso melelove 

anton feiqriSvili (4 lelo); 

saukeTeso mequle merab kvirikaSvili 

(99 qula 2016 wels, karieraSi 

_ 766); 

simboluri, wiTeli kepi oqros 

arSiiT gadaeca borjRalosanTa 9 

nomers, giorgi begaZes, romelmac 

2016 wels 50-e kepi moixveWa; 

axali specialuri prizi _ `Tibisi 

bankis rCeuli~ _ borjRalosanTa 

Suamarbs, daviT kaWaravas ergo. 

rac mTavaria, saqarTvelos 2016 

wlis saukeTeso moragbe mamuka gorgoZe 

gaxda, romlisTvisac es 

qveynis masStabiT ukve meeqvse aRiarebaa. 

ganaxlebuli da gaaxalgazrdavebuli 

borjRalosnebi 

saqarTvelos erovnuli saragbo nakrebi 

2017 wlis sezons 11 Tebervals daiwyebs. 

am dRes borjRalosnebi `ragbi evropis 

Cempionatis~ pirvel turSi belgias 

estumrebian, 19 Tebervals ki amave turniris 

egidiT rusTavSi germanias umaspin- 

Zleben. 

raki 2019 wlis msoflio Tasze monawileoba 

dabevebuli gvaqvs, borjRalosan- 

Ta samwvrTnelo Stabi eqsperimentebs ufro 

Tamamad mimarTavs da amitomac belgiasa 

da germaniasTan dapirispirebaSi araerTi 

axalwveuli gamoicdeba. cxadia, ma- 

TTvis, vinc boZebul Sanss rigianad gamoiyenebs, 

nakrebis kari momavalSic gaiReba. 

Cveni Semadgenlobis gadaxalisebas metoqeTa 

faqtoric uwyobs xels – belgiisa 

da germaniis kalibris gundebs eqsperimentuli 

SemadgenlobiT moaspareze borjRalosnebic 

gaumklavdebian da dagegmili 

qulebis mopovebac ar gauWirdebaT. 

`Cvens mizans, ra Tqma unda, turniris 

mogeba warmoadgens, sxva mxriv ki gvinda, 

rom saTamaSo poziciebze „siRrme“ _ konkurencia 

SevqmnaT da axalgazrda moragbeebs 

Sansi mivceT. wlevandel gaTamaSebaSi 

unda vcadoT stilis ganviTareba da 

TamaSic ufro Tanmimdevruli gavxadoT. 

aseve mniSvnelovania SeteviT da dacviT 

stilSi siaxleTa Setana~, _ ambobs saqarTvelos 

nakrebis axalzelandieli Tavkaci, 

milton heigi. 

heigma SarSan 11 testSi sul 5 axalbeda 

gamoscada, 2017 wlis `ragbi evropis 

Cempionatis~ pirveli ori matCisTvis ki 

31-kaca razmSi erTbaSad 8 ukepo Seiyvana. 

Tu belgia-germaniasTan yvelani iTamaSeben, 

yvela drois borjRalosanTa ricxvi 

249-mde ava. 

`pirveli ori matCisTvis axalgazrdebi 

SevarCieT, rac maT karg SesaZleblobas 

miscems, samwvrTnelo Stabs unarebi 

daanaxvon. vinaidan Cveni mzera 2019 wlis 

msoflios Tasiskenaa mimarTuli, cxadia, 

es Sansi samomavlod maTi SerCevis procesis 

dasawyisia. am biWebma unda gaiTavison, 

rom maT yovel qmedebas Tvals mivadevnebT 

ara mxolod moedanze, aramed mis 

miRmac. saqmisadmi maT midgomasa da profesionalizms 

mikroskopiT davakvirdebiT~, 

_ es kvlav heigis sityvebia. 

axali sezonis startze ar iTamaSebs 

2016 wlis noembris testebis 15 monawile, 

anu TiTqmis mTeli ZiriTadi Semadgenloba. 

borjRalosnebi 2017 wlis `ragbi evropis 

Cempionatis~ pirveli ori matCisTvis 

Sekrebas 4 Tebervals safrangeTSi daiwyeben. 

gundi tuluzSi 9 Tebervlamde 

darCeba, Semdeg briuselisken aiRebs gezs 

da belgias 11 Tebervals, saqarTvelos 

droiT, 18 saaTze Seerkineba. 

nakrebi 13 Tebervals dabrundeba Sin 

da germaniasTan matCisTvis `Sevardenis~ 

sanakrebo bazaze moemzadeba. 19 Tebervlis 

TamaSi rusTavSi gaimarTeba da 15 

saaTze daiwyeba. 

heigis 31-kaciani sia ki ase gamoiyureba: 

ukana xazi: merab kvirikaSvili (lelo 

sarasensi), beqa wiklauri (lokomotivi), 

sandro Todua (lelo sarasensi), giorgi 

fruiZe (bagrati, quTaisi), anzor siWinava 

(akademia), daviT kaWarava (enisei, ruse- 

Ti), merab SariqaZe (oriaki, safrangeTi), 

giorgi koSaZe (xarebi, rusTavi), badri 

liparteliani (armazi), laSa malaRuraZe 

(krasni iari, ruseTi), laSa xmalaZe (lelo 

sarasensi), revaz jinWvelaSvili (bagrati, 

quTaisi), giorgi begaZe (yoCebi, bolnisi), 

vaJa xuciSvili (lokomotivi), gela afrasiZe 

(lelo sarasensi); 

Serkineba: zurab Jvania (stad fransezi, 

safrangeTi), Tornike mataraZe (lioni, safrangeTi), 

badri alxaziSvili (tuloni, 

safrangeTi), giorgi WyoiZe (lelo sarasensi), 

giorgi meliqiZe (stad fransezi, 

safrangeTi), soso bekoSvili (brivi, safrangeTi), 

laSa tabiZe (bordo, safrange- 

Ti), giorgi nemsaZe (brisToli, inglisi), 

nodar WeiSvili (lelo sarasensi), giorgi 

TxilaiSvili (baTumi), laSa lomiZe (bezie, 

safrangeTi), saba SubiTiZe (akademia), 

beqa gorgaZe (mondemarsani, safrangeTi), 

oTar giorgaZe (klermoni, safrangeTi), 

giorgi mWedliSvili (jiqi, gori), giorgi 

cucqiriZe (brivi, safrangeTi). 


gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma 

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afiSa 

xXx: : dabruneba 

kavea isT foinTi 

IMAX RUS 13:45 19 l. 

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IMAX RUS 19:00 19 l. 

darbazi 2 19:45 12-13 l. 

IMAX RUS 21:30 19 l. 

darbazi 2 21:30 12-13 l. 

kavea Tbilisi moli 

darbazi 5 16:15 9-10 l. 

darbazi 5 19:10 12-13 l. 

darbazi 2 22:15 12-13 l. 

mogzauri 

2.qarTv. 

momR- 

erali 

qali 

3. 

Sinauri 

fri- 

nveli 

5. 

saamuri, 

sasiam- 

ovno 

7. wylis 

mcenare 

1.Seiar- 

aRebuli 

kon- 

fliqti 

6.er- 

Tujre- 

diani 

arseba 

4. Rone, 

Zala 

8.niv- 

Tierebis 

umciresi 

nawilaki 

afiSa 

didi kedeli 3D 

amirani 

darbazi 3 RUS 11:45 8-9 l. 

darbazi 1 RUS 19:00 13-14 l. 

darbazi 2 RUS 21:40 13-14 l. 


darbazi 6 12:30 8-9 l. 

darbazi 7 RUS 13:30 8-9 l. 

darbazi 8 14:30 8-9 l. 

darbazi 7 RUS 16:30 9-10 l. 

darbazi 3 19:15 12-13 l. 

darbazi 4 ENG 21:30 12-13 l. 

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rusTaveli 

darbazi 4 16:45 10-11 l. 

darbazi 1 19:45 13-14 l. 

darbazi 5 22:30 13-14 l. 

1 aSS dolari 

2.7061 

1 evro 

2.8947 

1 girvanqa sterlingi 

3.3926 

1 Sveicariuli franki 

2.7094 

100 rusuli rubli 

4.5211 

wina nomris 

skanvordis pasuxebi: 

pirveli suraTi - aleqsandre 

makedoneli; meore suraTi - iuli- 

sius keisari; 1. ararati; 2. da; 3. 

karati; 4. tura; 5. oda; 6. sufra; 7. 

alabama; 8. nandu; 9. du; 10. sardinia; 

11. laRiZe; 12. guli; 13. isterika; 14. 

bohema; 15. semiramida; 16. tranSea; 17. 

elita; 18. hae; 19. SaniZe; 20. revolu- 

cioneri; 21. lomi; 22. infanti; 23. 

tomati; 24. sio; 25. aleni; 26. filatelisti; 

27. ska; 28. aorta; 29. ale- 

gro; 30. lando; 31. erkemali; 32. 

neri; 33. goeTe; 34. ia; 35. mali; 

9.xangr- 

10. mecn. 

Zlivo- 

Zveli 

bis 

monetebis 

gazomva 

Sesaxeb 

13. 

parik- 

maxeri 

14. 

gareuli 

cxoveli 

15. 

muzeumi 

peter- 

burgSi 

12. zog 

qveyanaSi 

policia 

17.asure- 

Tis 

uZvelesi 

qalaqi 

19. 

Zalian 

iSviaTi 

nivTi 

23.eleqtr. 

Zalis 

sazomi 

erTeuli 

20.farn- 

21.banqos 

gi vet. 

erTg- 

fex- 

vari 

burTeli 

TamaSi 

22. 

qveyana 

aziaSi 

24. 

gareuli 

cxoveli 

25.mglo- 

beli 

fri- 

nveli 

25a. 

Cogbur- 

Tis 

moedani 

26. 

Zvirfasi 

qva 

28. 

29. 

oTxadg- 

zafxu- 

iliani 

lis Tve 

etli 

31.qarCx- 

aZis 

nawar- 

moebi 

32. tba 

Tbi- 

lisSi 

11. 

paemani, 

Sexvedra 

mogzauri 

16. md. 

Tbi- 

lisSi 

18. 

Tevzis 

Zvali 

27. 

Cog- 

burTi 

30. 

alioni, 

riJraJi 


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balerina 3D 

amirani 

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darbazi 1 16:30 10-11 l. 


darbazi 2 11:45 7-8 l. 

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darbazi 3 16:45 9-10 l. 

darbazi 8 19:30 12-13 l. 


darbazi 1 12:00 7-8 l. 

darbazi 1 14:30 8-9 l. 

darbazi 1 16:50 9-10 l. 

darbazi 2 19:45 12-13 l. 

rusTaveli 

darbazi 1 12:00 8-9 l. 

darbazi 1 14:30 9-10 l. 

darbazi 1 17:00 10-11 l. 

darbazi 3 20:00 13-14 l. 

amindi 

samSabaTi 

oTxSabaTi 

xuTSabaTi 

paraskevi 

SabaTi 

kvira 

orSabaTi 

Tbilisi 

2-4 0 

3-5 0 

5-7 0 

6-8 0 

7-9 0 

9-11 0 

10-13 0 

quTaisi 

2-5 0 

3-6 0 

2-4 0 

4-6 0 

8-10 0 

6-8 0 

7-9 0 

baTumi 

2-4 0 

4-5 0 

6-8 0 

7-9 0 

9-11 0 

11-13 0 

12-14 0 

zugdidi 

3-6 0 

4-6 0 

5-9 0 

6-7 0 

9-12 0 

10-15 0 

11-13 0 

gori 

1-3 0 

2-4 0 

1-3 0 

3-4 0 

4-5 0 

5-7 0 

6-8 0 

Telavi 

1-2 0 

2-3 0 

3-5 0 

1-2 0 

3-4 0 

6-8 0 

7-9 0 

foTi 

3-4 0 

5-7 0 

6-9 0 

7-9 0 

8-10 0 

9-12 0 

11-13 0 

40 

saredaqcio kolegia 

yvela ufleba daculia; 

`qronika+~-Si gamoqveynebuli 

masalebis nebismieri saxiT 

gamoyeneba da gavrceleba 

redaqciasTan SeuTanxmeblad 

akrZalulia! 

gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul 

masalebs aqvT sareklamo 

xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia 

SeiZleba ar daemTxves 

redaqciis Sexedulebas. 

mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12) 

redaqtori nana TvalabeiSvili (592 73 73 90) 

vardiaSvili neli 597 11 12 47 

stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe; 

batiaSvili Tamar 593 61 74 15 

redaqciis misamarTi: 

rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06 

Tbilisi, gudauris N3, 

mamulaSvili gela 599 45 50 26 

pirveli sarTuli, bina 4; 

berulava laSa 577 20 86 13 

tel.: SatakiSvili rezo 597 94 42 50 

294 69 77; 

mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55 

iuridiuli samsaxuri: 

Tamar oTiaSvili 593 68 47 98 

arCil CubiniZe; 

janezaSvili levan 593 18 77 10 

sareklamo ganyofileba, 

vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89 

gavrcelebis samsaxuri 

xujaZe zviad (aSS) 

Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10 

deviZe daviT 

gazeTi ibeWdeba stambaSi `tori~ 

ISSN 2346-8025 

9772346802006 

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